I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
It used these words amongst ebay graphics
"Dear eBay Member,
We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to the
violation of our site policy below:
False or missing contact information - Falsifying or omitting your name,
address, and/or telephone number (including use of fax machines pager
numbers, modems or disconnected numbers).
Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited
from using eBay in any way. This prohibition includes the registering of a
new account.
Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due and
payable.
eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed to the billing
method currently on "
First I checked my account still worked - it did.
then I followed the link to see what it did - it jumped to a different site,
finally
I sent a copy to [email protected].
Be careful out there.
--
Greg
"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:02:36 GMT, "Greg Millen"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
>>further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
>>legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
> This was your first?
>
> I get these daily. <G>
>
> Barry
Well, let me say that I too get hundreds of similar spams every week. I
think what nearly caught me on this one was I had just completed a
transaction with ebay and was waiting for confirmation. Normally I don't
download any more than the header.
--
Greg
Greg Millen writes:
>I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
>further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
>legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
>It used these words amongst ebay graphics
>"Dear eBay Member,
>We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to the
>violation of our site policy below:
>False or missing contact information - Falsifying or omitting your name,
>address, and/or telephone number (including use of fax machines pager
>numbers, modems or disconnected numbers).
>Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited
>from using eBay in any way. This prohibition includes the registering of a
>new account.
>Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due and
>payable.
>eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed to the billing
>method currently on "
I'm not sure those things are just address traps. I think they're looking for
people stupid enough to give them card numbers or other ID. I have gotten such
missives from outfits purporting to be Citibank and Suntrust. I don't have an
EBay account, don't have a Citibank card or account of any kind, and don't do
business with Suntrust (and never will) so they're fishing in sterile waters
here, but I'd guess they do grab some info from a few people.
This kind of spammer should be tracked down relentlessly and prosecuted and
imprisoned for a goodly number of years.
Charlie Self
"Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of
nothing."
Redd Foxx
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:02:36 GMT, "Greg Millen" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
>further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
>legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
[snip]
From Washington Post. Note especially in the last paragraph excerpted
here: "She handed over her bank account number, Social Security number and
her mother's maiden name -- the keys to her identity. " Whoa, Nellie!
For complete article (free reg required), click here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59349-2004Nov18.html
Phishing Schemes Scar Victims
By Brian Krebs
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Thursday, November 18, 2004; 6:36 AM
Nancy Boyle woke up one morning last December to discover that someone had
stolen $1,800 from her online bank account. Then came the $800 credit card
charge for escort services that she and her husband Dan never ordered.
The Boyles, who run a window treatment business out of their home in
Racine, Wis., were getting a crash course in phishing.
The first e-mail appeared to come from Bank One, warning that Mrs. Boyle's
account would be suspended unless she updated her information to conform
with the company's new anti-fraud measures. She clicked on the link that
came with the e-mail and entered the data on the Web site. Then the money
disappeared from her account.
***Not long after that, she got another message that looked like it came
from eBay. It warned of fraudulent activity on her account and urged her to
verify her details. She handed over her bank account number, Social
Security number and her mother's maiden name -- the keys to her identity.
Oddly, they have warnings about "phishing" e-mails on the credit card sites,
bank sites, etc. Check 'em out.
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greg Millen wrote:
>
> >I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
> >further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
> >legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
> Just wait until you get them from Citibank, Washington Mutual, Paypal,
> and a bunch others. Just ignore them and send them right to the dumpster!
>
If that were permitted, perhaps ISPs would introduce worms into e-mails
themselves to collect on a remailing scam.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Personally I'd favor just requiring all ISPs to charge a penny a shot to
> transport an email from one of their customers and to block any mail
> transported by ISP that doesn't subscribe to that policy. Most customers
> can afford to pay that for their emails, while the spammers, if it wasn't
> free anymore, would have to at least target their lists a little.
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:33:24 -0700, George wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> If that were permitted, perhaps ISPs would introduce worms into e-mails
> themselves to collect on a remailing scam.
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Personally I'd favor just requiring all ISPs to charge a penny a shot to
>> transport an email from one of their customers and to block any mail
>> transported by ISP that doesn't subscribe to that policy. Most customers
>> can afford to pay that for their emails, while the spammers, if it wasn't
>> free anymore, would have to at least target their lists a little.
>
>
I was bored one day and looked into one of the citibank scams. The ip address
desguised as the link was somewhere in China. I went to it and the web page
was so crude it didn't work, none of the pull downs functioned and most of
the other links were broken. I doubt I could have given them my info if I
wanted too!
-Bruce
On 20 Nov 2004 09:40:56 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>I'm not sure those things are just address traps. I think they're looking for
>people stupid enough to give them card numbers or other ID. I have gotten such
>missives from outfits purporting to be Citibank and Suntrust. I don't have an
>EBay account, don't have a Citibank card or account of any kind, and don't do
>business with Suntrust (and never will) so they're fishing in sterile waters
>here, but I'd guess they do grab some info from a few people.
They're called "Phisher" emails, fishing for info to do identity
theft.
>This kind of spammer should be tracked down relentlessly and prosecuted and
>imprisoned for a goodly number of years.
No, print out a paper copy of each email to each sendee and return it
to the sender via his lower orifice. Y'know, sorta like living
taxidermy without the cleanout first. That'll teach 'em.
-- Friends Don't Let Friends Eat Turkey and Drive --
Greg Millen wrote:
> I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
> further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
> legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
> It used these words amongst ebay graphics
> "Dear eBay Member,
A tip-off that this e-mail is fradulent is right here. A legitimate email from a
company will have your full name (that you registered with them). A legitimate
message comes from people who know who you are, they will not address you as
"Member"...
JeffB
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'm not sure those things are just address traps. I think they're looking
for
> people stupid enough to give them card numbers or other ID. I have gotten
such
> missives from outfits purporting to be Citibank and Suntrust. I don't have
an
> EBay account, don't have a Citibank card or account of any kind, and don't
do
> business with Suntrust (and never will) so they're fishing in sterile
waters
> here, but I'd guess they do grab some info from a few people.
I get a dozen of them a day. Recently, I've been receiving fake emails from
Wamu.com down in the US asking me to logon on and confirm my account. The
bank doesn't even exist in Canada. They're saying now that 80% of emails
these days are spam of some type. I'm at the point where I'm torn between
everybody having to a verifiable email address versus the confidentiality
that exists now if one desires it.
Greg Millen wrote:
>I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
>further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
>legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
>
>It used these words amongst ebay graphics
>"Dear eBay Member,
>We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to the
>violation of our site policy below:
>False or missing contact information - Falsifying or omitting your name,
>address, and/or telephone number (including use of fax machines pager
>numbers, modems or disconnected numbers).
>Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited
>from using eBay in any way. This prohibition includes the registering of a
>new account.
>Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due and
>payable.
>eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed to the billing
>method currently on "
>
>First I checked my account still worked - it did.
>then I followed the link to see what it did - it jumped to a different site,
>finally
>I sent a copy to [email protected].
>
>Be careful out there.
>
>
Just wait until you get them from Citibank, Washington Mutual, Paypal,
and a bunch others. Just ignore them and send them right to the dumpster!
Upscale wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> I'm not sure those things are just address traps. I think they're looking
> for
>> people stupid enough to give them card numbers or other ID. I have gotten
> such
>> missives from outfits purporting to be Citibank and Suntrust. I don't
>> have
> an
>> EBay account, don't have a Citibank card or account of any kind, and
>> don't
> do
>> business with Suntrust (and never will) so they're fishing in sterile
> waters
>> here, but I'd guess they do grab some info from a few people.
>
> I get a dozen of them a day. Recently, I've been receiving fake emails
> from Wamu.com down in the US asking me to logon on and confirm my account.
> The bank doesn't even exist in Canada. They're saying now that 80% of
> emails these days are spam of some type. I'm at the point where I'm torn
> between everybody having to a verifiable email address versus the
> confidentiality that exists now if one desires it.
Personally I'd favor just requiring all ISPs to charge a penny a shot to
transport an email from one of their customers and to block any mail
transported by ISP that doesn't subscribe to that policy. Most customers
can afford to pay that for their emails, while the spammers, if it wasn't
free anymore, would have to at least target their lists a little.
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Personally I'd favor just requiring all ISPs to charge a penny a shot to
> transport an email from one of their customers and to block any mail
> transported by ISP that doesn't subscribe to that policy. Most customers
> can afford to pay that for their emails, while the spammers, if it wasn't
> free anymore, would have to at least target their lists a little.
That would work great until you realize that there is no international
organization with the authority to require that ISPs do that.
Although the US sends more spam than any other nation, China is not
far behind and the rest of the world altogether sends more than the
US alone.
Look down at the bottom of this page:
http://www.spamhaus.org/
Notice also that mci.com (formerly Worldcom) leads the US in spam
support. They were also hosting a DDOS against Spamhaus for several
months, perhaps they still are. It is not hard for folks with a little
bit of internet savy to find where the spammers are hosted. It is
extremely hard to get the ISPs to terminate their accounts.
--
FF
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Personally I'd favor just requiring all ISPs to charge a penny a shot to
> transport an email from one of their customers and to block any mail
> transported by ISP that doesn't subscribe to that policy. Most customers
> can afford to pay that for their emails, while the spammers, if it wasn't
> free anymore, would have to at least target their lists a little.
That would work great until you realize that there is no international
organization with the authority to require that ISPs do that.
Although the US sends more spam than any other nation, China is not
far behind and the rest of the world altogether sends more than the
US alone.
Look down at the bottom of this page:
http://www.spamhaus.org/
Notice also that mci.com (formerly Worldcom) leads the US in spam
support. They were also hosting a DDOS against Spamhaus for several
months, perhaps they still are. It is not hard for folks with a little
bit of internet savy to find where the spammers are hosted. It is
extremely hard to get the ISPs to terminate their accounts.
--
FF
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
> I'm not sure those things are just address traps.
They are not.
> I think they're looking for
> people stupid enough to give them card numbers or other ID.
They are. In addition to cash advances fraudulent purchases and other
basic identity theft crimes spammers also use phished credit cards to
open throwaway accounts from which they spam.
> I have gotten such
> missives from outfits purporting to be Citibank and Suntrust. I don't have an
> EBay account, don't have a Citibank card or account of any kind, and don't do
> business with Suntrust (and never will) so they're fishing in sterile waters
> here, but I'd guess they do grab some info from a few people.
>
> This kind of spammer should be tracked down relentlessly and prosecuted and
> imprisoned for a goodly number of years.
>
Supposedly Al Qaida and others raise money through identity theft types
of cyber-crime, internet sales of bootleg software and knockoffs through
front companies etc.
--
FF
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:02:36 GMT, "Greg Millen"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I received an email, at first glance from ebay, that I checked a little
>further. Since I have used ebay in the last few days I thought it may be
>legit but it is simply a trap for IDs etc.
This was your first?
I get these daily. <G>
Barry
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:08:34 GMT, JeffB <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>A tip-off that this e-mail is fradulent is right here. A legitimate email from a
>company will have your full name (that you registered with them). A legitimate
>message comes from people who know who you are, they will not address you as
>"Member"...
You should assume that *every* such email is a fraud,
regardless of how it is addressed, worded, etc, *unless*
it is in response to something you did, such as an
acknowledgement of a purchase you made.