I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
it.
Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
fine.
Did I say I love the X laser?
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:41:56 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/9/11 10:13 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:43:50 -0800, Larry Jaques
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:39:30 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2011 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>>>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>>>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>>>>>>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>>>>>>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>>>>>>> had to use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>>>>>> repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>>>>>> Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>>>>>> markings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
>>>>> Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a problem seeing the markings, as long as they are not
>>>> under the wide laser beams.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it wouldn't be bad if the lasers were the exact same width as
>>> the blade, or started exactly on one side of the cut. I haven't liked
>>> any of the lasers I've used on tools, either.
>>
>> A 1/8" laser would be nice for a SCMS. The laser on my Bosch is on the left
>> side of the cut. If I put the mark exactly on the laser, the piece to the
>> left is the right size. Since I'm right-handed, my left is generally holding
>> the piece of interest; works out fine.
>
>My Delta 12" CMS has lasers on both sides of the blade and they are dead
>on. They have an adjustment, but I've never had to reset it after the
>initial set-up. The lines can be spread out or tightened up to adjust
>for blade kerf.
Since it's on the outside, why would you have to adjust it for the kerf width?
A wider blade will move the hub that much further out. Your laser thingy
isn't on the hub?
>In this case, the width of the laser (not anywhere as wide as those in
>the pics shown) is irrelevant, because I adjusted them to be on the
>outside of the cut. Like when you mark a measurement with a pencil line
>to "save the line" or "cut the line." My CMS lasers are adjusted to save
>the line and they are dead on accurate.
As with my Bosh, though it's only on the left side of the blade.
>I've seen some of these wide, fuzzy laser lines on other tools and
>thought that the judicious placement of some electrical tape on the lens
>might effect a sharpening of the line. Creating a fine slit through
>which the laser has to exit couple perhaps thin the line at the stock.
>It's worth a few minutes of experimentation, at least.
I was playing with my Delta drill press again today. I see what others were
talking about with the wide lines. For very accurate work I would use a jig
but it's nice to have the third dimension taken out of the equation. If for
nothing else, it's a good sanity check. The Bosch SCMS' line is really
narrow, though (I noticed it needed a new battery, today).
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:25:47 -0500, "m II" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just aim for the`middle of the lines. This would be no different than
>using a steel rule in Machine Shop training for 0.001" accuracy.
That all depends on how thick and how sharply the laser lines are
definded.
On Nov 8, 12:25=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
> it.
>
> Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
> one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
>
> Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
> presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
> flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
> fine.
>
> Did I say I love the X laser?
Lasers on my PC chop saw died when the cheap 5 cent
flashlight switch died. They worked okay for aligning the
head to a layout line, but weren't essential. If I'm shooting
for hairline precision on a machine -- say, for drilling in hinges --
nothing makes the job easier than a 60 watt lamp placed
within 6" of the mark and a cheap pair of dollar store
3x reading glasses.
>
> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
> working. =A0Am I missing something here? =A0Now I will admit that for coa=
rse
> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
Of course (no pun) for some production or repeated setup I adjust the
fence, stop blocks or make a fixture. But even setting up those items
the laser helps me get them dead on. Also lots of my daily use is one
hole here and there and using a brad point bit and some pencil marks I
can nail the center like never before. Maybe it's just me but I always
had trouble getting the dill point to line up to marks and often had
to contact the wood before I could tell if I was lined up but with the
laser I find it much easier.
On 11/10/11 1:15 PM, Dave wrote:
> at least you've got an excuse for those extra few inches.
Too. Many. Jokes. Can't. Compute.
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:10:43 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>When she goes on the diet, I lose weight by proxy. Because she's cooking
>under the guidelines of the diet, I lose weight because I'm eating what
>she cooks. Even though I'm not following the diet strictly, I lose
>weight.
Well, hell man, you've got it easy. If the wife ever says anything
about the bulge on your belly, you can say it's her fault. Of course,
saying that might be hazardous to your health in a different way, but
at least you've got an excuse for those extra few inches.
On Nov 8, 4:24=A0pm, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 11/8/2011 3:14 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if qu=
it
> >> working. =A0Am I missing something here? =A0Now I will admit that for =
coarse
> >> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>
> > Of course (no pun) for some production or repeated setup I adjust the
> > fence, stop blocks or make a fixture. But even setting up those items
> > the laser helps me get them dead on. Also lots of my daily use is one
> > hole here and there and using a brad point bit and some pencil marks I
> > can nail the center like never before. Maybe it's just me but I always
> > had trouble getting the dill point to line up to marks and often had
> > to contact the wood before I could tell if I was lined up but with the
> > laser I find it much easier.
>
> I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
> does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
> way up. =A0Additionally I find it way to easy to knock the lasers out of
> alignment. =A0AND My marks tend to be relative narrow compared to the
> width of the laser, and the laser hides the mark so I don't know if my
> mark is centered under the laser line or off to one edge of the laser lin=
e.
Yup. That's my beef with the whole laser thing...too fat a line. It's
like marking a shoulder on a tenon with a crayon.
On 11/8/2011 3:36 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:25:47 -0500, "m II"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just aim for the`middle of the lines. This would be no different than
>> using a steel rule in Machine Shop training for 0.001" accuracy.
>
> That all depends on how thick and how sharply the laser lines are
> definded.
Correct but I have yet to see a line thinner than 1/32"
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:43:50 -0800, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:39:30 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/8/2011 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>>>>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>>>>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>>>>> had to use?
>>>>
>>>> I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>>>> repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>>>> Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>>>> markings.
>>>
>>> Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
>>> Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
>>>
>>
>>I don't have a problem seeing the markings, as long as they are not
>>under the wide laser beams.
>
>Yeah, it wouldn't be bad if the lasers were the exact same width as
>the blade, or started exactly on one side of the cut. I haven't liked
>any of the lasers I've used on tools, either.
A 1/8" laser would be nice for a SCMS. The laser on my Bosch is on the left
side of the cut. If I put the mark exactly on the laser, the piece to the
left is the right size. Since I'm right-handed, my left is generally holding
the piece of interest; works out fine.
>
> How do they align the laser markings at any height of drill surface. It
> would seem to have to shine down the shaft of the drill bit and that does=
n't
> sound possible?? =A0Smoke and mirrors? =A0Moving mechanism?
>
Haven't really even looked at the optics but somehow they cast two
lines as an x that stays crossed in the same location regarless of
table height (so far) and stay visible right up until the drill tip
contacts.
My miter laser died and I never looked into fixing it. I only use for
rough cuts, construction type stuff withthe exception of crown
molding. Then I use a fixture. All precise cross cuts get done on the
TS.
A laser on my Glock would be good. The 12 guage seems to work well
without one. ;^)
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:24:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
>does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
>way up.
I'm guessing that you're aware you can compenesate for those large
shadowding bits by just starting the hole with the tip and then
retracting the bit to see if the cross hairs line up with it. But, it
does take a little more time and effort.
On Nov 8, 1:14=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if qui=
t
> > working. =A0Am I missing something here? =A0Now I will admit that for c=
oarse
> > locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>
> Of course (no pun) for some production or repeated setup I adjust the
> fence, stop blocks or make a fixture. But even setting up those items
> the laser helps me get them dead on. Also lots of my daily use is one
> hole here and there and using a brad point bit and some pencil marks I
> can nail the center like never before. Maybe it's just me but I always
> had trouble getting the dill point to line up to marks and often had
> to contact the wood before I could tell if I was lined up but with the
> laser I find it much easier.
At first I read "... into her" but then saw it was "onto her".
Actually, for me either is OK as long as I get to.
> I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
> does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
> way up. =A0Additionally I find it way to easy to knock the lasers out of
> alignment. =A0AND My marks tend to be relative narrow compared to the
> width of the laser, and the laser hides the mark so I don't know if my
> mark is centered under the laser line or off to one edge of the laser lin=
e.
I was using a 1 1/3" forstner and don't recall having a problem. Also
I was able to see my pencil marks under the laser on black phenolic.
I haven't knocked them out of adjustment...yet. Haven't ever
calibrated them that I recall (maybe I did when I set it up). But
don't even recall exactly where it/they are installed. I just quickly
got used to them and found them very effective... for me.
On Nov 8, 11:25=A0am, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
> it.
>
> Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
> one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
I have a DP-300 with the laser. I seldom use it. It's a pain to re-
calibrate if you bump it, and the line width is too fat for accurate
positioning.
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:12:03 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Nov 8, 4:51 pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 8, 1:35 pm, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:24:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>
>> > >I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
>> > >does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
>> > >way up.
>>
>> > I'm guessing that you're aware you can compenesate for those large
>> > shadowding bits by just starting the hole with the tip and then
>> > retracting the bit to see if the cross hairs line up with it. But, it
>> > does take a little more time and effort.
>>
>> Sounds like my last date.
>
>He said CROSS hairs.
It leaves me wondering why her hairs were so mad at him.
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one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
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On 11/8/2011 11:59 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 11/8/2011 11:25 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>> I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
>>> one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
>>>
>>> Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
>>> presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
>>> flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> Did I say I love the X laser?
>>
>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>
> Perhaps yours isn't adjusted properly? The lasers on my Delta 18-900L align
> perfectly over the range of the table. It takes a little work to dial them in
> but once it's set up it's great.
My lasers align, they just are low resolution, I have made them as
narrow as possible according to the instructions.
OK Thanx for that! Duh!!
It just kicked in how easy the cross hairs would be with two projecting
line lasers at 90 degrees to each other on the bit point.
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Haven't really even looked at the optics but somehow they cast two
lines as an x that stays crossed in the same location regarless of
table height (so far) and stay visible right up until the drill tip
contacts.
-----------------
> How do they align the laser markings at any height of drill surface.
> It
> would seem to have to shine down the shaft of the drill bit and that
> doesn't
> sound possible?? Smoke and mirrors? Moving mechanism?
>
I only posses one too with a laser cutting line. My slide mitre saw. I
wouldn't be without it, after first use. The drill press sounds like an
awesome thing to have laser, also, but I am not sure about many other tools
benefit from it much. Laser on my hammer would be real nice.
How do they align the laser markings at any height of drill surface. It
would seem to have to shine down the shaft of the drill bit and that doesn't
sound possible?? Smoke and mirrors? Moving mechanism?
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I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
it.
Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
fine.
Did I say I love the X laser?
On 11/9/2011 8:22 AM, Han wrote:
> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in news:Re-dndXZL8MbFifTnZ2dnUVZ_r-
> [email protected]:
>
>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
>> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
>> adjustment?
>
> He was. I didn't know cork had that much give. I suppose you put down a
> piece of plywood to have the tripod rest on, in such a way you didn't have
> to step on the plywood to adjust the lasers?
We always establish level reference line around the walls of an
installation so we can determine the low and high spots of the floor,
telling us where cabinets will have to be shimmed.
We ALWAYS do this from FF (finished floor).
So, reading between the lines, we should have already done that, and
were probably trying to reference off a previously established line/mark
... after we had put down floor protection.
>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ...<g>
>
> lol
The lad has a dry sense of humor ... some folks can't always tell
whether he's kidding or serious. <g>
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On 11/9/2011 2:58 PM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 11/9/2011 2:10 PM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level
>>>>>>> line around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works
>>>>>>> well enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the
>>>>>>> tripod... Uh Swingman? ;~)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough
>>>>> give to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod
>>>>> to make an adjustment?
>>>>>
>>>>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ...<g>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On another note, Kim just picked Flemish glass for the larger lower
>>>> pantry doors and clear for the top doors. Paul has the go ahead.
>>>
>>> Excellent!
>>> Waiting with bated breath for the pictures ...
>>> (had to google for the right spelling - I knew something was amiss
>>> ...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Whut you done thinked I spelt it right? ;~)
>
> Last time Swingman had to point out my spelling mistake of "baited" to
> the correct "bated" ...
>
He would be a busy man if he tried to point out all of my spelling
mistakes!
On 11/8/2011 3:35 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:24:41 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
>> does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
>> way up.
>
> I'm guessing that you're aware you can compenesate for those large
> shadowding bits by just starting the hole with the tip and then
> retracting the bit to see if the cross hairs line up with it. But, it
> does take a little more time and effort.
Yes! but I have broad lines on mine and there is no instruction on
making the line of the laser narrower. Basically I can move the mark
and it is still under the crossing laser lines.
If I need to make repeated holes I simply draw a square line to the edge
of the piece that will touch the fence. I drop the bit to touch the line
and attach a piece of tape and mark a line on it at the line on the
board. Next board aligns to that mark on the fence.
On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
>>> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
>>> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
>>> Swingman? ;~)
>>
>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>
> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
> adjustment?
>
> With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
>
On another note, Kim just picked Flemish glass for the larger lower
pantry doors and clear for the top doors. Paul has the go ahead.
On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
>>> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
>>> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
>>> Swingman? ;~)
>>
>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>
> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
> adjustment?
>
> With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
>
I don't think we were using a laser when I actually fell through the
floor. ;~)
It sounds better if I blame the floaty floor on the plywood. ;~)
On 11/9/2011 8:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/9/2011 8:22 AM, Han wrote:
>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in news:Re-dndXZL8MbFifTnZ2dnUVZ_r-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
>>> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
>>> adjustment?
>>
>> He was. I didn't know cork had that much give. I suppose you put down a
>> piece of plywood to have the tripod rest on, in such a way you didn't
>> have
>> to step on the plywood to adjust the lasers?
>
> We always establish level reference line around the walls of an
> installation so we can determine the low and high spots of the floor,
> telling us where cabinets will have to be shimmed.
>
> We ALWAYS do this from FF (finished floor).
>
> So, reading between the lines, we should have already done that, and
> were probably trying to reference off a previously established line/mark
> ... after we had put down floor protection.
>
>>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ...<g>
>>
>> lol
>
> The lad has a dry sense of humor ... some folks can't always tell
> whether he's kidding or serious. <g>
>
OMG! WOT!
On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
>> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
>> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
>> Swingman? ;~)
>
> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>
That floor was actually plywood on top of a new cork floor. It was
down there to protect the new floor.
Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
>> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
>> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
>> Swingman? ;~)
>
> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
adjustment?
With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
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On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>
> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
> going the wrong way)
>
Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
Once I went below 190 it seemed to come off with out me knowing, I only
check at the doctors office.
On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>
> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
> had to use?
I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
markings.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
> Swingman? ;~)
Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
going the wrong way)
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Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:Re-dndXZL8MbFifTnZ2dnUVZ_r-
[email protected]:
> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
> adjustment?
He was. I didn't know cork had that much give. I suppose you put down a
piece of plywood to have the tripod rest on, in such a way you didn't have
to step on the plywood to adjust the lasers?
> With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
lol
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level
>>>> line around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works
>>>> well enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the
>>>> tripod... Uh Swingman? ;~)
>>>
>>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>>
>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough
>> give to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to
>> make an adjustment?
>>
>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
>>
>
> On another note, Kim just picked Flemish glass for the larger lower
> pantry doors and clear for the top doors. Paul has the go ahead.
Excellent!
Waiting with bated breath for the pictures ...
(had to google for the right spelling - I knew something was amiss ...)
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 11/9/2011 2:10 PM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level
>>>>>> line around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works
>>>>>> well enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the
>>>>>> tripod... Uh Swingman? ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>>>>
>>>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough
>>>> give to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod
>>>> to make an adjustment?
>>>>
>>>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ...<g>
>>>>
>>>
>>> On another note, Kim just picked Flemish glass for the larger lower
>>> pantry doors and clear for the top doors. Paul has the go ahead.
>>
>> Excellent!
>> Waiting with bated breath for the pictures ...
>> (had to google for the right spelling - I knew something was amiss
>> ...)
>>
>>
>>
>
> Whut you done thinked I spelt it right? ;~)
Last time Swingman had to point out my spelling mistake of "baited" to
the correct "bated" ...
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On 11/9/2011 7:47 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> I was playing with my Delta drill press again today. I see what others were
> talking about with the wide lines. For very accurate work I would use a jig
> but it's nice to have the third dimension taken out of the equation. If for
> nothing else, it's a good sanity check. The Bosch SCMS' line is really
> narrow, though (I noticed it needed a new battery, today).
>
The laser on the DP can be like a "Drill Stop". If the lines cross any
part of your finger, hand , or other body part don't lower the bit. ;~)
You can trust that! Yes, it's THAT accurate.
On 11/8/2011 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>>
>>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>>> had to use?
>>
>> I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>> repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>> Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>> markings.
>
> Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
> Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
>
> --
> A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
> one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
> -- Louis L'Amour
I don't have a problem seeing the markings, as long as they are not
under the wide laser beams.
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:51:52 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
>Sounds like my last date.
Yeah, I've had a few difficult dates too. The worst one that comes to
mind was the nurse who warned me against coming onto her even before I
opened the car door for her to get in. In retrospect, I should have
ended the date right there and then.
On 11/8/2011 3:14 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>
> Of course (no pun) for some production or repeated setup I adjust the
> fence, stop blocks or make a fixture. But even setting up those items
> the laser helps me get them dead on. Also lots of my daily use is one
> hole here and there and using a brad point bit and some pencil marks I
> can nail the center like never before. Maybe it's just me but I always
> had trouble getting the dill point to line up to marks and often had
> to contact the wood before I could tell if I was lined up but with the
> laser I find it much easier.
I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
way up. Additionally I find it way to easy to knock the lasers out of
alignment. AND My marks tend to be relative narrow compared to the
width of the laser, and the laser hides the mark so I don't know if my
mark is centered under the laser line or off to one edge of the laser line.
On 11/11/2011 12:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>>>>> going the wrong way)
>>>
>>> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
>>> change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
>>> it looks in a month.
>>
>>
>> Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
>> "below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
>> was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93.
>> BUT last visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and
>> my BP dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
>
> No kidding! Good numbers.
>
>
>>>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>>>> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>>>
>>> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
>>> didn't you?
>>
>> The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
>> averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so sweating
>> provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect is greater.
>
> IOW, it sucks to walk brisk miles in humid Texas. Gotcha.
>
>
>> The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
>> of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
>
> Is this dietary carb units or grams of carbohydrates?
Grams,
>
>
>> Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
>> high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size you
>> would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings from a
>> typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared to it's
>> nutritional value.
>
> Wow, no wonder you gave up desserts. That serving size is only a
> tease.
Well you have to be OK with a taste.
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:13:11 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>If my BP doesn't come down, I may actually be forced into seeing a
>bloody doctor, too.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I'm 5'11" and 250 pounds. My blood pressure and cholesterol are just fine.
>This really bugs my wife. She's 4'11" and 110 pounds. She has been taking
>blood pressure pills for about three years now. Once I get out of this
>wheelchair, I fully intend to loose some.
Lose some what, wife or weight? ;)
In either case, good luck!
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you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>>>> going the wrong way)
>>
>> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
>> change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
>> it looks in a month.
>
>
>Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
>"below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
>was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93.
>BUT last visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and
>my BP dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
No kidding! Good numbers.
>>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>>> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>>
>> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
>> didn't you?
>
>The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
>averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so sweating
>provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect is greater.
IOW, it sucks to walk brisk miles in humid Texas. Gotcha.
>The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
>of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
Is this dietary carb units or grams of carbohydrates?
>Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
>high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size you
>would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings from a
>typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared to it's
>nutritional value.
Wow, no wonder you gave up desserts. That serving size is only a
tease.
>I am a type 2 diabetic and this gives me an advantage. Now that I have
>my glucose numbers into a normal range and good A1C results if I eat
>more than my 20~30 carbs in one setting I feel like crap for the next
>few hours.
Type 2? No wonder you're watching your diet so closely. My body
doesn't like sugar, so I bake with Splenda. But if I eat too many
carbs in a day, I get achy muscles, so I watch my diet, too.
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you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>
>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>> had to use?
>
>I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>markings.
Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour
On Nov 8, 1:35=A0pm, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:24:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>
> >I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
> >does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
> >way up.
>
> I'm guessing that you're aware you can compenesate for those large
> shadowding bits by just starting the hole with the tip and then
> retracting the bit to see if the cross hairs line up with it. But, it
> does take a little more time and effort.
Sounds like my last date.
On Nov 8, 4:51=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:35=A0pm, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:24:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>
> > >I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
> > >does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it i=
s
> > >way up.
>
> > I'm guessing that you're aware you can compenesate for those large
> > shadowding bits by just starting the hole with the tip and then
> > retracting the bit to see if the cross hairs line up with it. But, it
> > does take a little more time and effort.
>
> Sounds like my last date.
He said CROSS hairs.
On 11/9/2011 2:10 PM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level
>>>>> line around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works
>>>>> well enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the
>>>>> tripod... Uh Swingman? ;~)
>>>>
>>>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>>>
>>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough
>>> give to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to
>>> make an adjustment?
>>>
>>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ...<g>
>>>
>>
>> On another note, Kim just picked Flemish glass for the larger lower
>> pantry doors and clear for the top doors. Paul has the go ahead.
>
> Excellent!
> Waiting with bated breath for the pictures ...
> (had to google for the right spelling - I knew something was amiss ...)
>
>
>
Whut you done thinked I spelt it right? ;~)
On 11/08/11 4:13 PM, m II wrote:
> OK Thanx for that! Duh!!
>
> It just kicked in how easy the cross hairs would be with two projecting
> line lasers at 90 degrees to each other on the bit point.
>
>
> -------------
> "SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
> news:50577933-403f-4e78-b392-0e3c746db331@w20g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Haven't really even looked at the optics but somehow they cast two
> lines as an x that stays crossed in the same location regarless of
> table height (so far) and stay visible right up until the drill tip
> contacts.
>
> -----------------
>> How do they align the laser markings at any height of drill surface. It
>> would seem to have to shine down the shaft of the drill bit and that
>> doesn't
>> sound possible?? Smoke and mirrors? Moving mechanism?
>>
>
Well that makes a confirmation the two top posting morons are the same
person.
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 11/8/11 7:11 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> Yup. That's my beef with the whole laser thing...too fat a line. It's
> like marking a shoulder on a tenon with a crayon.
(Like)
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On 11/9/11 10:13 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:43:50 -0800, Larry Jaques
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:39:30 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/8/2011 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>>>>>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>>>>>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>>>>>> had to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>>>>> repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>>>>> Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>>>>> markings.
>>>>
>>>> Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
>>>> Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have a problem seeing the markings, as long as they are not
>>> under the wide laser beams.
>>
>> Yeah, it wouldn't be bad if the lasers were the exact same width as
>> the blade, or started exactly on one side of the cut. I haven't liked
>> any of the lasers I've used on tools, either.
>
> A 1/8" laser would be nice for a SCMS. The laser on my Bosch is on the left
> side of the cut. If I put the mark exactly on the laser, the piece to the
> left is the right size. Since I'm right-handed, my left is generally holding
> the piece of interest; works out fine.
My Delta 12" CMS has lasers on both sides of the blade and they are dead
on. They have an adjustment, but I've never had to reset it after the
initial set-up. The lines can be spread out or tightened up to adjust
for blade kerf.
In this case, the width of the laser (not anywhere as wide as those in
the pics shown) is irrelevant, because I adjusted them to be on the
outside of the cut. Like when you mark a measurement with a pencil line
to "save the line" or "cut the line." My CMS lasers are adjusted to save
the line and they are dead on accurate.
I've seen some of these wide, fuzzy laser lines on other tools and
thought that the judicious placement of some electrical tape on the lens
might effect a sharpening of the line. Creating a fine slit through
which the laser has to exit couple perhaps thin the line at the stock.
It's worth a few minutes of experimentation, at least.
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On 11/9/11 7:47 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:41:56 -0600, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My Delta 12" CMS has lasers on both sides of the blade and they are dead
>> on. They have an adjustment, but I've never had to reset it after the
>> initial set-up. The lines can be spread out or tightened up to adjust
>> for blade kerf.
>
> Since it's on the outside, why would you have to adjust it for the kerf width?
> A wider blade will move the hub that much further out. Your laser thingy
> isn't on the hub?
>
It is not. The assembly is mounted on the front portion of the fixed
metal blade shroud.
The blade guard has slats that allow the light to pass.
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On 11/10/11 12:43 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>
>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but
>> it is
>> going the wrong way)
>>
>
> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>
> Once I went below 190 it seemed to come off with out me knowing, I only
> check at the doctors office.
I'm 5'9" and I hover just under a buck eighty most of the time.
I certainly don't like being that heavy (relative). The "athletic me"
should be at 160 and cut. But the "I enjoy life, food and beer me" is
content with the extra pudge in the gut and love handles, even if it
really slows me down on the softball field.
However, when my wife feels like she's put on an extra pound or two, she
puts herself through the South Beach Diet, which is a low carb, very
healthy diet... not the craziness and danger of the Atkins diet. It
works very well and fast for her. Here's the kicker....
When she goes on the diet, I lose weight by proxy. Because she's cooking
under the guidelines of the diet, I lose weight because I'm eating what
she cooks. Even though I'm not following the diet strictly, I lose
weight. I don't even notice anything different about my diet. If I
actually went though the "cravings purge" portion of the diet and
followed the rest closely, I'd lose 20lbs in a few weeks without any
exercise.
All that to say, if you added a minimal amount of exercise to the diet,
you could drop 30-40lbs in a couple months with very little stress to
your body or mind.
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--
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 11/8/2011 11:25 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
>> it.
>>
>> Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
>> one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
>>
>> Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
>> presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
>> flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
>> fine.
>>
>> Did I say I love the X laser?
>
>I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
Perhaps yours isn't adjusted properly? The lasers on my Delta 18-900L align
perfectly over the range of the table. It takes a little work to dial them in
but once it's set up it's great.
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
had to use?
On 11/8/2011 7:11 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2011 3:14 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>
>>> Of course (no pun) for some production or repeated setup I adjust the
>>> fence, stop blocks or make a fixture. But even setting up those items
>>> the laser helps me get them dead on. Also lots of my daily use is one
>>> hole here and there and using a brad point bit and some pencil marks I
>>> can nail the center like never before. Maybe it's just me but I always
>>> had trouble getting the dill point to line up to marks and often had
>>> to contact the wood before I could tell if I was lined up but with the
>>> laser I find it much easier.
>>
>> I guess my biggest complaint is when using a Forstner bit, the laser
>> does not reach the work at all with a moderately large bit unless it is
>> way up. Additionally I find it way to easy to knock the lasers out of
>> alignment. AND My marks tend to be relative narrow compared to the
>> width of the laser, and the laser hides the mark so I don't know if my
>> mark is centered under the laser line or off to one edge of the laser line.
>
> Yup. That's my beef with the whole laser thing...too fat a line. It's
> like marking a shoulder on a tenon with a crayon.
Thank you Robatoy! I think you actually understand the problem. LOL
Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
Swingman? ;~)
On 11/8/2011 11:25 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> I bought the 1HP Porter Cable drill press at Lowes for ~$300. Loving
> it.
>
> Can I say I love the laser that throws an X to mark the spot. This is
> one gimick worth the time to keep working and calibrated.
>
> Runs pretty smooth (rattles a bit like all non-gear head drill-
> presses). Nice belt change setup and tensioner. Includes a light on a
> flex arm which is real nice to have and the red laser still shows up
> fine.
>
> Did I say I love the X laser?
I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
On Nov 12, 1:51=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 12:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
> >> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
> >>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>
> >>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
> >>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>
> >> Damn, you're right about that!
>
> >> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
> >> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
> >> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packin=
g
> >> on the weight.
>
> >> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
> >> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>
> >> Aggravating as hell ...
>
> > All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
> > Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
> > weight better than 2 big meals a day.
> > It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a leve=
l
> > pace.
> > When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
> > instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
> > It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
> > it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
> > calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
> > when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
>
> These days if I go out to eat (where they serve "meals", not like a burge=
r
> joint or something) I almost invariably eat only half of it and bring hom=
e the
> rest in a to-go box. =A0The portions they give you these days are just
> ridiculous; nobody needs to eat that much food in one sitting.
>
> --
> Free bad advice available here.
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
Even the gourmet snooty restaurants in Toronto now give you adequate
food. It wasn't always that way. There was a time when the waiter
would come around and ask how I found my steak. My answer, invariably,
would be: " by lifting a green bean..and there it was!"
When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
dog to boot.
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:54:46 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 11/9/2011 8:17 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/9/2011 7:48 AM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Now I will say that the laser level, the tool that shoots a level line
>>>> around the perimeter of a room for putting up cabinets works well
>>>> enough, unless the floor sinks when you walk near the tripod... Uh
>>>> Swingman? ;~)
>>>
>>> Somebody needs to lose weight?? Karl doesn't look overweight ...
>>
>> I think he was talking about the time a cork tile floor had enough give
>> to throw the laser level off when you walked up to the tripod to make an
>> adjustment?
>>
>> With Leon, there ain't no telling ... <g>
>>
>
>I don't think we were using a laser when I actually fell through the
>floor. ;~)
>
>It sounds better if I blame the floaty floor on the plywood. ;~)
Stand right.... *there*. No, a little more weight on your left foot...
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:40:11 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 11/9/2011 7:47 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> I was playing with my Delta drill press again today. I see what others were
>> talking about with the wide lines. For very accurate work I would use a jig
>> but it's nice to have the third dimension taken out of the equation. If for
>> nothing else, it's a good sanity check. The Bosch SCMS' line is really
>> narrow, though (I noticed it needed a new battery, today).
>>
>The laser on the DP can be like a "Drill Stop". If the lines cross any
>part of your finger, hand , or other body part don't lower the bit. ;~)
>
>You can trust that! Yes, it's THAT accurate.
>
Well, since the lines extend 18" from the bit, it certainly would be safe.
I suppose one could sneak up on a large Forstner from 3:00, 6:00, or 9:00 and
get "bit". OTOH, most DP "oopses" I've seen are hold-down problems (not the
bit that bites, but the work piece).
On Nov 12, 5:44=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 12:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
> >> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
> >>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>
> >>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
> >>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>
> >> Damn, you're right about that!
>
> >> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
> >> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
> >> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packin=
g
> >> on the weight.
>
> >> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
> >> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>
> >> Aggravating as hell ...
>
> > All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
> > Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
> > weight better than 2 big meals a day.
> > It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a leve=
l
> > pace.
> > When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
> > instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
> > It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
> > it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
> > calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
> > when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
>
> Been singing in the South Beach Choir for seven years, got the hymnbook,
> the tee-shirt, the cookbook (have made more SB cauliflower "mashed
> potatoes" than your wife, I guarantee), the online subscription, and the
> spreadsheet.
>
> =A0 ... that said, in the parlance of the horse business, I'm a "slow
> eater and an easy keeper".
>
> --www.eWoodShop.com
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
I love mashed cauliflour-potato-like stuff.
On 11/11/2011 04:17 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/11/11 2:55 PM, Larry W wrote:
>> Ha! Eat your heart out (not literally of course) 6 ft even and 152 lbs.
>
>
> Holy cow, Larry. You could walk through prison bars.
>
>
...or stand under a clothes line to keep out of the rain!
--
"A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to
blame somebody else." -John Burroughs
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:45:25 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Robatoy wrote:
>
>>When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
>>Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
>>Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
>>I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
>>kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
>>dog to boot.
>-----------------------------------
>Can't remember the last time I ate a piece of red meat in a
>restaurant.
>
>Prefer Italian and Chinese cuisines which are not big on red meat.
Italian, sure, but
Meatballs.
Hot sausage.
Veal.
>Must admit a nice thick ribeye on the grill was quite tasty this past
>summer.
>
>Lew
>
>
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:25:41 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>>When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
>>Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
>>Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
>>I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
>>kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
>>dog to boot.
>
> It would be a bit of a drive but you might like the Red Osier
> restaurant in Stafford, NY
>
> The Ultimate Prime Rib of Beef AuJus
>
> Carved Tableside to your preferred doneness!
>
> Petite Cut Prime Rib (12 oz.)........$18.99
> Queen Cut (1 lb)..........................$23.99
> Red Osier Cut (1-1/2 lb.).............$29.99
> Bishop Cut (2-1/4 lb.)..................$39.99
>
>>> Call Cut* (4-1/2 to 5 lb.) with free Red Osier Tee Shirt... $59.99 <<
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> *(Call Cut may not always be available)
>
> http://www.redosier.com/
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
Or for a *really long* drive:
http://www.bigtexan.com/free72.html
Max
Robatoy wrote:
>When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
>Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
>Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
>I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
>kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
>dog to boot.
-----------------------------------
Can't remember the last time I ate a piece of red meat in a
restaurant.
Prefer Italian and Chinese cuisines which are not big on red meat.
Must admit a nice thick ribeye on the grill was quite tasty this past
summer.
Lew
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:27:47 -0600, Leon wrote:
> On 11/11/2011 1:56 PM, basilisk wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0600, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'.
>>>>>>> ;~)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose,
>>>>>> but it is going the wrong way)
>>>>
>>>> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for
>>>> a change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see
>>>> how it looks in a month.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
>>> "below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
>>> was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93. BUT last
>>> visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and my BP
>>> dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30
>>>>> per meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant
>>>> dessert, didn't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
>>> averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so
>>> sweating provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect
>>> is greater.
>>>
>>> The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
>>> of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
>>> Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
>>> high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size
>>> you would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings
>>> from a typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared
>>> to it's nutritional value.
>>> I am a type 2 diabetic and this gives me an advantage. Now that I
>>> have my glucose numbers into a normal range and good A1C results if I
>>> eat more than my 20~30 carbs in one setting I feel like crap for the
>>> next few hours.
>>>
>> I'm a type 2 and over time have gotten down to sub 20 grams of carbs a
>> day. This means zero grain based foods, potatoes, fruit, sugar of any
>> kind, or any starchy vegetable. My last A1c was 4.9 and I rarely have a
>> glucose reading over 105. Normal numbers not only for a diabetic but
>> normal for a young healthy man.
>
> Jeez, are sure you are diabetic??? My last A1C was 6.2 and IIRC 6.0 is
> normal, I was 10.6 when diagnosed. But 20 carbs a day?? what do you
> eat? For about 2 years I tested before and after each meal, learned
> that some foods that should not be ok are ok and visa versa, in
> moderation.
>
Yep, no doubt about it, when diagnosed I had an A1c of 14.5 and a
bg of 400+. I have a brother already blind in one eye and been through
dialysis and kidney transplant, so I'll admit to being a bit of a fanatic
about the whole thing. No question I'll die of something, but it won't be
diabetic complications.
A1c of 6.0 is high end normal, I'm attempting to keep mine at average
normal.
I highly recommend the book "The Diabetes Solution" by Dr. Bernstein,
it was a bit of an eye opener for me.
basilisk
>
>
>> This diet had to be worked into and I no longer considered it
>> difficult, the longer I have eaten this way the easier it is.
>
> Yeah you can look at some foods and know it is not going to be good.
>
>
>> Ordering in a restaurant I can drive a waiter and kitchen staff nuts,
>> but I do tip well.
>>
>> Take care of yourself, otherwise it will slowly but surely kill you.
>>
>> basilisk
>> proselytizing about diabetes management.
--
A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
On 11/11/2011 1:56 PM, basilisk wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>>>>> going the wrong way)
>>>
>>> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
>>> change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
>>> it looks in a month.
>>
>>
>> Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
>> "below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
>> was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93.
>> BUT last visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and
>> my BP dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>>>> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
>>> didn't you?
>>
>>
>> The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
>> averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so sweating
>> provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect is greater.
>>
>> The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
>> of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
>> Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
>> high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size you
>> would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings from a
>> typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared to it's
>> nutritional value.
>> I am a type 2 diabetic and this gives me an advantage. Now that I have
>> my glucose numbers into a normal range and good A1C results if I eat
>> more than my 20~30 carbs in one setting I feel like crap for the next
>> few hours.
>>
> I'm a type 2 and over time have gotten down to sub 20 grams of carbs a day.
> This means zero grain based foods, potatoes, fruit, sugar of any kind, or
> any starchy vegetable. My last A1c was 4.9 and I rarely have a glucose
> reading over 105. Normal numbers not only for a diabetic but normal for
> a young healthy man.
Jeez, are sure you are diabetic??? My last A1C was 6.2 and IIRC 6.0 is
normal, I was 10.6 when diagnosed. But 20 carbs a day?? what do you
eat? For about 2 years I tested before and after each meal, learned
that some foods that should not be ok are ok and visa versa, in moderation.
>
> This diet had to be worked into and I no longer considered it difficult,
> the longer I have eaten this way the easier it is.
Yeah you can look at some foods and know it is not going to be good.
>
> Ordering in a restaurant I can drive a waiter and kitchen staff nuts,
> but I do tip well.
>
> Take care of yourself, otherwise it will slowly but surely kill you.
>
> basilisk
> proselytizing about diabetes management.
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>
>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it
>> is
>> going the wrong way)
I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
it looks in a month.
>Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
didn't you?
>Once I went below 190 it seemed to come off with out me knowing, I only
>check at the doctors office.
If my BP doesn't come down, I may actually be forced into seeing a
bloody doctor, too.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm 5'11" and 250 pounds. My blood pressure and cholesterol are just fine.
This really bugs my wife. She's 4'11" and 110 pounds. She has been taking
blood pressure pills for about three years now. Once I get out of this
wheelchair, I fully intend to loose some.
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:05:14 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
>on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
Well hell Swing, they must be three hour lunches then. Considering the
prolific amount of construction you appear to do, (demonstrated by all
the picture links you post) I have to wonder how you gain any weight
at all.
On Nov 12, 1:42=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
> >>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>
> >> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
> >> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>
> > Damn, you're right about that!
>
> > Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
> > while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
> > onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
> > on the weight.
>
> > I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
> > on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>
> > Aggravating as hell ...
>
> All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
> Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
> weight better than 2 big meals a day.
> It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a level
> pace.
> When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
> instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
> It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
> it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
> calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
> when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
The key is to never go hungry. The second you're hungry, the next
batch of food will get processed slightly different with fat storage
in mind. Fill up with water between meals.
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:25:41 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
>When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
>Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
>Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
>I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
>kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
>dog to boot.
It would be a bit of a drive but you might like the Red Osier
restaurant in Stafford, NY
The Ultimate Prime Rib of Beef AuJus
Carved Tableside to your preferred doneness!
Petite Cut Prime Rib (12 oz.)........$18.99
Queen Cut (1 lb)..........................$23.99
Red Osier Cut (1-1/2 lb.).............$29.99
Bishop Cut (2-1/4 lb.)..................$39.99
>> Call Cut* (4-1/2 to 5 lb.) with free Red Osier Tee Shirt... $59.99 <<
^^^^^^^^^^
*(Call Cut may not always be available)
http://www.redosier.com/
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:25:41 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 1:51 pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> These days if I go out to eat (where they serve "meals", not like a burger
>> joint or something) I almost invariably eat only half of it and bring home the
>> rest in a to-go box. The portions they give you these days are just
>> ridiculous; nobody needs to eat that much food in one sitting.
Yeah, and who needs a 40 OUNCE jug of sugary water to go with a meal?
>Even the gourmet snooty restaurants in Toronto now give you adequate
>food. It wasn't always that way. There was a time when the waiter
>would come around and ask how I found my steak. My answer, invariably,
>would be: " by lifting a green bean..and there it was!"
Why would anyone eat a second time in a place like that?
>When we go out to eat, we eat in Michigan half the time, the rest in
>Ontario Canada. The portions in MI are WAY bigger than here in
>Ontario. One place we frequent served me a prime rib, and I swear, if
>I dragged one of them across the threshold and manhandled it into the
>kitchen, we'd eat off that sucker for 2 meals, Ang and I and a happy
>dog to boot.
What? You _feed_ that thing? <gd&r>
I seldom eat out. When I do, it's usually a quick lunch at taco bell
(2 tacos, 1 pintos and cheese with green sauce, $2.78) or Jack in the
Box (4 tacos, $1.98) or dinner at a thai restaurant. My favorite
"out" food is chicken green curry. I usually bring enough home for a
nice spicy breakfast, stirring two scrambled eggs into last night's
feast. YUM! The Thai chef has no problem avoiding bell peppers or
sugar for my meal.
Since I avoid nightshade plants (tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, chiles,
and peppers) I seldom -can- eat in restaurants. Try to tell a chef to
avoid all those foods. Just try it. Luckily, after 25 years of
avoidance, I am now able to eat smaller quantities of potatoes and
eggplant. And if I don't add hot sauce, I can eat Mexican food for
lunch.
I'll see what happens in a month, hopefylly after I get my blood
pressure down. I'll likely have to start joining youse guys in
watching my carbs very closely again, though.
--
That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met,
you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:09:05 -0700, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 11/12/2011 07:00 PM, Nova wrote:
>
>-snip-
>
>>>> Call Cut* (4-1/2 to 5 lb.) with free Red Osier Tee Shirt... $59.99<<
>
>Yikes - A side of beef for dinner?
Because Prime Rib is so fatty, I end up eating less than half what's normally
served, but still!
On 11/12/2011 07:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:09:05 -0700, Doug Winterburn<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2011 07:00 PM, Nova wrote:
>>
>> -snip-
>>
>>>>> Call Cut* (4-1/2 to 5 lb.) with free Red Osier Tee Shirt... $59.99<<
>>
>> Yikes - A side of beef for dinner?
>
> Because Prime Rib is so fatty, I end up eating less than half what's normally
> served, but still!
>
Yabbut, that fat is just like buttah. I try to get the smallest cut -
medium rare - and there are no leftovers.
My angiogram results - no blockages and next to zero plaque - whew! Now
on to the lungs to figure out the flunking of the stress test...
--
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blame somebody else." -John Burroughs
On 11/11/11 2:55 PM, Larry W wrote:
> Ha! Eat your heart out (not literally of course) 6 ft even and 152 lbs.
Holy cow, Larry. You could walk through prison bars.
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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In article <[email protected]>,
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/11/2011 04:17 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/11/11 2:55 PM, Larry W wrote:
>>> Ha! Eat your heart out (not literally of course) 6 ft even and 152 lbs.
>>
>>
>> Holy cow, Larry. You could walk through prison bars.
>>
>>
>
>...or stand under a clothes line to keep out of the rain!
>
You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
--
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Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:03:16 -0700, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 11/12/2011 07:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:09:05 -0700, Doug Winterburn<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/2011 07:00 PM, Nova wrote:
>>>
>>> -snip-
>>>
>>>>>> Call Cut* (4-1/2 to 5 lb.) with free Red Osier Tee Shirt... $59.99<<
>>>
>>> Yikes - A side of beef for dinner?
>>
>> Because Prime Rib is so fatty, I end up eating less than half what's normally
>> served, but still!
>>
>
>Yabbut, that fat is just like buttah. I try to get the smallest cut -
>medium rare - and there are no leftovers.
I don't know about you, but I don't eat stick butter, either. *yech*
>My angiogram results - no blockages and next to zero plaque - whew! Now
>on to the lungs to figure out the flunking of the stress test...
Ouch!
I whacked my wrist tendons a couple of weeks ago while applying a pocket hole
clamp. It took a couple of days to get good and tender but when I got to the
doc-in-the-box my BP had spiked to 200/100 (usually 120s/60s - regulated by
Metoprolol, mostly because of A-Fib). A trip to the regular doc put me on
Amlodipine. It's almost back where it should be (both wrist and BP).
On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>>
>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>
> Damn, you're right about that!
>
> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
> on the weight.
>
> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>
> Aggravating as hell ...
>
All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
weight better than 2 big meals a day.
It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a level
pace.
When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On 11/12/2011 12:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
>>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>>>
>>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
>>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>>
>> Damn, you're right about that!
>>
>> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
>> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
>> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
>> on the weight.
>>
>> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
>> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>>
>> Aggravating as hell ...
>>
>
> All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
> Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
> weight better than 2 big meals a day.
> It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a level
> pace.
> When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
> instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
> It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
> it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
> calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
> when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
These days if I go out to eat (where they serve "meals", not like a burger
joint or something) I almost invariably eat only half of it and bring home the
rest in a to-go box. The portions they give you these days are just
ridiculous; nobody needs to eat that much food in one sitting.
--
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To reply, eat the taco.
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On 11/12/11 12:51 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 12:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>>>>
>>>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
>>>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>>>
>>> Damn, you're right about that!
>>>
>>> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
>>> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
>>> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
>>> on the weight.
>>>
>>> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
>>> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>>>
>>> Aggravating as hell ...
>>>
>>
>> All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
>> Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
>> weight better than 2 big meals a day.
>> It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a level
>> pace.
>> When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
>> instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
>> It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
>> it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
>> calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
>> when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
>
> These days if I go out to eat (where they serve "meals", not like a
> burger joint or something) I almost invariably eat only half of it and
> bring home the rest in a to-go box. The portions they give you these
> days are just ridiculous; nobody needs to eat that much food in one
> sitting.
>
Totally agree.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>
> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
Damn, you're right about that!
Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
on the weight.
I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
Aggravating as hell ...
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Last update: 4/15/2010
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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>
>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>> going the wrong way)
I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
it looks in a month.
>Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
didn't you?
>Once I went below 190 it seemed to come off with out me knowing, I only
>check at the doctors office.
If my BP doesn't come down, I may actually be forced into seeing a
bloody doctor, too.
--
Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery.
-- Matthew Arnold
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0600, Leon wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>>>> going the wrong way)
>>
>> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
>> change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
>> it looks in a month.
>
>
> Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
> "below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
> was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93.
> BUT last visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and
> my BP dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>>> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>
>
>>
>> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
>> didn't you?
>
>
> The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
> averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so sweating
> provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect is greater.
>
> The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
> of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
> Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
> high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size you
> would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings from a
> typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared to it's
> nutritional value.
> I am a type 2 diabetic and this gives me an advantage. Now that I have
> my glucose numbers into a normal range and good A1C results if I eat
> more than my 20~30 carbs in one setting I feel like crap for the next
> few hours.
>
I'm a type 2 and over time have gotten down to sub 20 grams of carbs a day.
This means zero grain based foods, potatoes, fruit, sugar of any kind, or
any starchy vegetable. My last A1c was 4.9 and I rarely have a glucose
reading over 105. Normal numbers not only for a diabetic but normal for
a young healthy man.
This diet had to be worked into and I no longer considered it difficult,
the longer I have eaten this way the easier it is.
Ordering in a restaurant I can drive a waiter and kitchen staff nuts,
but I do tip well.
Take care of yourself, otherwise it will slowly but surely kill you.
basilisk
proselytizing about diabetes management.
On 11/10/2011 12:57 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:40:11 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> The laser on the DP can be like a "Drill Stop". If the lines cross any
>> part of your finger, hand , or other body part don't lower the bit. ;~)
>
> That sounds like the voice of experience Leon.
Not that I can recall LOL.
On 11/10/2011 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:43:56 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/9/2011 7:56 AM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>>>
>>> That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>>> going the wrong way)
>
> I'm 5'10-1/2" and 224. BP just showed up at 175/99, so it's time for a
> change. I cut my NSAID and black tea intakes by 2/3. We'll see how
> it looks in a month.
Yup those numbers are kinda high, these days the doctors want to see
"below" 110/80. I was up to about 220 with BP around 150/95 and my BP
was always a bit high when visiting the Dr's office, 145/93.
BUT last visit in July I had dropped about 9 pounds since Christmas and
my BP dropped to 115/78. He was happy, I was shocked.
>
>> Its simple! Watch your carb intake, I limit mine to about 20~30 per
>> meal, walk 2 miles at a brisk pace 5 days a week, and no desert!
>
> Hah! You lie. You live in a desert, Texicus. Oh, you meant dessert,
> didn't you?
The desert tends to be dry, not Houston. So walking a brisk 2 miles,
averaging 3.5 ~ 4 MPH I have to deal with a lot of humidity so sweating
provides no cooling and as a result IMHO the exercise effect is greater.
The 20~30 carbs does not rule out dessert but dessert is normally part
of a meal so the meal has to be very small to allow for a dessert.
Because most deserts that you would want to actually eat are extremely
high in carbs a piece of pie or cake needs to be about 1/5 the size you
would see served in a restaurant. Read that as about 16 servings from a
typical pie. And still that size packs a lot of punch compared to it's
nutritional value.
I am a type 2 diabetic and this gives me an advantage. Now that I have
my glucose numbers into a normal range and good A1C results if I eat
more than my 20~30 carbs in one setting I feel like crap for the next
few hours.
>
>
>> Once I went below 190 it seemed to come off with out me knowing, I only
>> check at the doctors office.
>
> If my BP doesn't come down, I may actually be forced into seeing a
> bloody doctor, too.
>
> --
> Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery.
> -- Matthew Arnold
On 11/12/2011 12:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/12/11 12:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/12/2011 10:31 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC),
>>>> You should have seen me 40 years ago when I was _really_ skinny.
>>>
>>> You must have been. Ideally, in your old age you should be sitting
>>> around and getting fat ~ like the rest of us.
>>
>> Damn, you're right about that!
>>
>> Since we got that last kitchen installed around July, I sat back and,
>> while finishing the rest of the re-model started bringing the crew
>> onsite to Luby's or Panda Express for lunch most days, starting packing
>> on the weight.
>>
>> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
>> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>>
>> Aggravating as hell ...
>>
>
> All things being equal concerning nutrition and "good for you" foods...
> Eating more, smaller meals a day can actually help you lose or maintain
> weight better than 2 big meals a day.
> It has to do with keeping your metabolism running and running at a level
> pace.
> When I have a small something to eat in the morning with my coffee,
> instead of just coffee, I don't put on weight.
> It sounds counter intuitive that eating more will help lose weight, but
> it's all about metabolism. You're triggering your body to start burning
> calories. You're also avoiding that lunchtime gorging you do at lunch
> when you've worked all morning without eating anything.
Been singing in the South Beach Choir for seven years, got the hymnbook,
the tee-shirt, the cookbook (have made more SB cauliflower "mashed
potatoes" than your wife, I guarantee), the online subscription, and the
spreadsheet.
... that said, in the parlance of the horse business, I'm a "slow
eater and an easy keeper".
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On 11/12/2011 12:53 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:05:14 -0600, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I can eat two meals a day and not gain weight, eat lunch and I pack it
>> on like a polar bear ... to the tune of 25lbs in three months.
>
> Well hell Swing, they must be three hour lunches then. Considering the
> prolific amount of construction you appear to do, (demonstrated by all
> the picture links you post) I have to wonder how you gain any weight
> at all.
He keeps forgetting to take his tool apron\belt off before weighing.
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:39:30 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/8/2011 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:34 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/8/2011 3:13 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:16:25 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> I have a Delta DP that came with the laser and would not miss it if quit
>>>>> working. Am I missing something here? Now I will admit that for coarse
>>>>> locating I am ok with it but not for accurate repeated drilling.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, you feel that the lasers aren't reliable enough for
>>>> accurate repeated drilling. Would you use them if they were or are you
>>>> of the old school frame of mind ~ preferring the method you've always
>>>> had to use?
>>>
>>> I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get a
>>> repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
>>> Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32" wide
>>> markings.
>>
>> Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
>> Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
>>
>
>I don't have a problem seeing the markings, as long as they are not
>under the wide laser beams.
Yeah, it wouldn't be bad if the lasers were the exact same width as
the blade, or started exactly on one side of the cut. I haven't liked
any of the lasers I've used on tools, either.
--
Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery.
-- Matthew Arnold
On 09 Nov 2011 13:56:15 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Last trip to the Dr's office I was 181 lbs and just shy of 6'. ;~)
>
>That's a lot better than I am - 210 and 5'9" (I'm trying to lose, but it is
>going the wrong way)
Well over the past 6 months I have managed to get down to 175 lbs down
about 40 lbs. My diet stress over marriage problems, I do not suggest
it for anyone.
Mark
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:19:04 -0800, Larry Jaques
>Here ya go, old man: http://goo.gl/K4Hv6
>Now maybe you can see those 1/64 and RCH lines on the better tapes.
Hey, have a little compassion for the old guy. He has to keep his
hands free for operate the drill press.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=52368&cat=1,43456,43351,52368
Just aim for the`middle of the lines. This would be no different than
using a steel rule in Machine Shop training for 0.001" accuracy.
Now old eyes may change a few things.
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"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I think they are reliable but I have not yet seen one that you can get
a
repeatable mark to say 1/32" of an inch. The lines are too coarse.
Like trying to measure 32nds" of an inch with a rule that has 1/32"
wide
markings.