BH

"Bill Hall"

14/08/2007 1:39 AM

Ridgid 3650 T/S

Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
one rather than build one.


This topic has 15 replies

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Chuck

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 10:21 AM

On Aug 13, 9:39 pm, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
> one rather than build one.

Hi Bill,

I just made a few of my own for my 3650. I took some scrap pine,
planed it to the proper thickness and cut blanks "close to size" on
the bandsaw, After that I double stick taped the orig. Ridgid insert
to the balnks and routed to size using a flush trim bit. I kept the
tab on the back in the pattern and nibbled away the top of it to fit
under the lip. Then I drilled / countersunk the hole in the front. I
painted them all flourescent orange for safety. All told, I now have 3
zero clearance inserts and the cost was zero (I already had the scrap
wood and the paint). They aren't fancy but they are easy to make and
do what they are supposed to.

Note: The Ridged TS3650 with a 10" blade will not retract enough to
allow you to seat the blank and then raise the blade into it. You can
solve this a couple of ways. The safe way is to install a smaller
diameter blade (like one blade from an 8" dado set) and then raise it
up through the blank. I don't recommend lowering the blank onto the
spinning blade but I know some people do it that way. It seems way too
dangerous.

Hope this helps,
Chuck

p

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 2:03 PM

On Aug 13, 8:39 pm, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
> one rather than build one.



Bill,
I use one from peachtree
http://www.ptreeusa.com/zero_clearance.htm

md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 11:14 AM

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:21:02 -0700, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:

>Note: The Ridged TS3650 with a 10" blade will not retract enough to
>allow you to seat the blank and then raise the blade into it. You can
>solve this a couple of ways. The safe way is to install a smaller
>diameter blade (like one blade from an 8" dado set) and then raise it
>up through the blank. I don't recommend lowering the blank onto the
>spinning blade but I know some people do it that way. It seems way too
>dangerous.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Chuck

Or, you can route (rout?) a depression on the bottom side for the blade, as the
"store bought" ones have..


mac

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md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 6:04 PM

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:42:40 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"mac davis" wrote
>>
>> I appreciate the thought, but it's the same problem we have now, shippers
>> won't deliver to a PO box..
>
>That is why I said a PRIVATE mail box. They receive all kinds of shipments
>from many sources. This is not to be confused with the post office.
>
>
Not here... the box that we have in Calexico IS a PMB... can't get anything but
US Mail to it, though..



mac

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RH

Robert Haar

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 12:00 AM

On 8/13/07 9:39 PM, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
> one rather than build one.
>

Woodcraft lists one as #832215 $21.99 in the on-line catalog, but I have
seen them with sale prices in the local store.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 2:31 PM


"mac davis" wrote
> What Rusty said... I wanted to get the ones from ridgid, (zero and dado)
> but
> they don't ship by US mail and that's all I can receive here in Mexico..

Ya know Mac, there are the many private mail box services on this side of
the border who remail things for folks all the time. Or you could set up
something with one of your friends.

I had a friend, who traveled alot who did this.

He got a credit card listing the private mailbox as his home address. (or
list a friend's address.) He would call each month to get his balance and
paid by electronic check. When he wanted something forwarded to him, he just
called the service. They would repackage it for him and send it by the
appropriate carrier.

I have received mail at the same private mail box for over 25 years. They
know me and would take care of me no matter what was involved. As long as it
was legal, of course.

Just a suggestion.


RR

"Rusty"

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 1:51 AM

The ridgid part # is AC1045 zero clearance insert www.ridgidparts.com


"Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:VI7wi.45775$SV4.9597@trnddc08...
> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert
> and
> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from
> lifting;
> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a
> hole,
> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to
> buy
> one rather than build one.
>
>

BH

"Bill Hall"

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 6:05 PM

Thanks to all who responded to my "little" problem. Going to order the one
from Ridgid, then make several from that pattern. Have made several in the
past for my old saw, but never encountered one with that "tab"in the rear.
Appreciate all the suggestions.
Bill
"Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:VI7wi.45775$SV4.9597@trnddc08...
> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert
and
> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from
lifting;
> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a
hole,
> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to
buy
> one rather than build one.
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 6:14 PM

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:03:13 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Aug 13, 8:39 pm, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
>> cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
>> from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
>> picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
>> Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
>> also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
>> no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
>> one rather than build one.
>
>
>
>Bill,
>I use one from peachtree
>http://www.ptreeusa.com/zero_clearance.htm

COOL!

The right plate at a good price AND they ship Parcel Post...
I ordered 2 of 'em... Thanks!


mac

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md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

14/08/2007 11:12 AM

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:39:01 GMT, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
>cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
>from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
>picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
>Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
>also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
>no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
>one rather than build one.
>
What Rusty said... I wanted to get the ones from ridgid, (zero and dado) but
they don't ship by US mail and that's all I can receive here in Mexico..
I got the ones from Lee Valley and the instructions that came with them listed
the saws it fit, while their web page just said 10" and the measurements of the
plate..
I ended up replacing the pin in the back with a longer allen bolt and drilling a
center hole in the front..
I also had to shim the sides because the ones that I got sat about 3/8" below
the table surface..

They have them in stock at ridgid, hope this dumb-ass link works:

http://tinyurl.com/y2zhwa

Anyway, it's part #AC1045
at http://www.ridgidparts.com/


mac

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md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 6:07 PM

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:32:04 -0400, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:

>mac davis wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:31:39 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
>> <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ya know Mac, there are the many private mail box services on this
>>> side of the border who remail things for folks all the time. Or you
>>> could set up something with one of your friends.
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I appreciate the thought, but it's the same problem we have now,
>> shippers won't deliver to a PO box..
>
>Yuma has at least three "UPS Stores", which used to be called
>"Mailboxes, Etc". They'll receive UPS, FedEx, and just about any other
>kind of shipment that will fit into the place, and provide you a
>mailbox. Not a PO box, but a mail box, like an apartment mail box.
>
Yeah, that's what my wife is signing up for today in Calexico... It's an hour
closer than Yuma..
It's also a block away from the Duty Free stores, which is a big plus... We're
hoping that Yuma gets a Duty Free store, but not so far..



mac

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JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 12:32 PM

mac davis wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:31:39 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Ya know Mac, there are the many private mail box services on this
>> side of the border who remail things for folks all the time. Or you
>> could set up something with one of your friends.
>>
> <snip>
>
> I appreciate the thought, but it's the same problem we have now,
> shippers won't deliver to a PO box..

Yuma has at least three "UPS Stores", which used to be called
"Mailboxes, Etc". They'll receive UPS, FedEx, and just about any other
kind of shipment that will fit into the place, and provide you a
mailbox. Not a PO box, but a mail box, like an apartment mail box.

> We have a box here in San Felipe, which also gives us a PO box in
> CA.. a messenger goes up 5 days a week and brings the mail down..
>
> My wife is on a shopping trip to Calexico & Yuma today and is signing
> up for a service that provides you with an actual street address,
> somehow..
> This will let us get UPS and stuff, but we'll have to drive 3 hours
> each way to go get it..
> Another plus is that they claim that it's enough of a "street"
> address to give to the DMV to register our vehicles there..
>
> My neighbor was in for a bit and said that the remailing services
> would receive US Mail and send it on through Mexican Mail.. never
> heard of anyone actually RECEIVING a package that was sent through
> the MPO..
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

md

mac davis

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 6:35 AM

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:31:39 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:



>Ya know Mac, there are the many private mail box services on this side of
>the border who remail things for folks all the time. Or you could set up
>something with one of your friends.
>
<snip>

I appreciate the thought, but it's the same problem we have now, shippers won't
deliver to a PO box..
We have a box here in San Felipe, which also gives us a PO box in CA.. a
messenger goes up 5 days a week and brings the mail down..

My wife is on a shopping trip to Calexico & Yuma today and is signing up for a
service that provides you with an actual street address, somehow..
This will let us get UPS and stuff, but we'll have to drive 3 hours each way to
go get it..
Another plus is that they claim that it's enough of a "street" address to give
to the DMV to register our vehicles there..

My neighbor was in for a bit and said that the remailing services would receive
US Mail and send it on through Mexican Mail.. never heard of anyone actually
RECEIVING a package that was sent through the MPO..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

15/08/2007 9:42 AM


"mac davis" wrote
>
> I appreciate the thought, but it's the same problem we have now, shippers
> won't
> deliver to a PO box..

That is why I said a PRIVATE mail box. They receive all kinds of shipments
from many sources. This is not to be confused with the post office.


Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Bill Hall" on 14/08/2007 1:39 AM

13/08/2007 10:15 PM

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:39:01 GMT, "Bill Hall" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Got a question for anyone with this saw! I know that Mac has one and has
>cured this situation, just not sure how! I need a zero clearance insert and
>from several catalogs the one for a Sears machine is the same. However,
>picked one up from the local Rockler and there are some major differences.
>Ridgid has an interlock at the rear to prevent (?) the insert from lifting;
>also the front does not have a screw hole to secure it (could drill a hole,
>no problem) on this one. BTW; no listing from Ridgid and would prefer to buy
>one rather than build one.

I make my own and have no tab at the back, it's not a problem. If
it's screwed down where is it going to go?


-Leuf


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