t

19/10/2007 2:52 PM

Mohagany planing

Hi,

I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
somebody here can help me with the following questions.
1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?

Thank you!

Tom


This topic has 11 replies

t

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 5:04 PM

On Oct 19, 11:47 am, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1> NO
> 2> With a quality planer and SHARP blades
> 3> If they have enough stock left re-plane them.1/8" gouge???? my lawn mower
> planes better than that.
> 4> Only if you feel the results are acceptable.
> Sounds like they where in a hurry and made heavy cuts. I'd raise holy hell
> for screwing up that costly a wood and demand replacing the wood. If they
> are a reliable and responsible dealer they will admit there error.<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> > for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> > it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> > together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> > Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> > other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> > same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> > going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> > be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> > somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> > 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> > 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> > 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> > 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Tom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you!

Tom

Ds

DonkeyHody

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 10:29 AM

On Oct 19, 9:52 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tom

That's not the way my mahogony turns out. I sometimes get a little
fuzzy grain out of the planer, but it sands right out.
The place where I buy wood uses too fast a feed rate that leaves
scallops in the wood, so I always have them leave it an extra
sixteenth too thick so I can take 1/32 off each side on my Makita
planer at home. But I've never had them harm a board so much it
couldn't be cleaned up with a couple of passes. If you have planing
defects even 1/32 deep, I'd say they ruined it for its intended
purpose. I agree with Leon. Press them to replace the wood or give
your money back.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
are not."

t

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 2:11 PM

On Oct 19, 1:29 pm, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 9:52 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> > for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> > it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> > together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> > Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> > other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> > same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> > going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> > be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> > somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> > 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> > 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> > 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> > 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Tom
>
> That's not the way my mahogony turns out. I sometimes get a little
> fuzzy grain out of the planer, but it sands right out.
> The place where I buy wood uses too fast a feed rate that leaves
> scallops in the wood, so I always have them leave it an extra
> sixteenth too thick so I can take 1/32 off each side on my Makita
> planer at home. But I've never had them harm a board so much it
> couldn't be cleaned up with a couple of passes. If you have planing
> defects even 1/32 deep, I'd say they ruined it for its intended
> purpose. I agree with Leon. Press them to replace the wood or give
> your money back.
>
> DonkeyHody
> "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
> are not."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

DonkeyHody,

Thank you for the suggestion! I called them up and they are pretty
good on services. They agree to refund the money, but they said they
can't do a better job than that. It is just a nature of crossgrain. I
think I should take your suggestion to ask them plane it to 1/16 more.
Just wonder what type of planer do you use? I am thinking of returning
some and leave some relatively good ones to keep my work going, since
some part may not need perfect lumber. And buy some more to ask them
to plane it to 1/16 to.

Tom

t

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 7:23 PM

On Oct 19, 1:29 pm, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 9:52 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> > for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> > it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> > together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> > Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> > other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> > same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> > going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> > be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> > somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> > 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> > 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> > 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> > 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Tom
>
> That's not the way my mahogony turns out. I sometimes get a little
> fuzzy grain out of the planer, but it sands right out.
> The place where I buy wood uses too fast a feed rate that leaves
> scallops in the wood, so I always have them leave it an extra
> sixteenth too thick so I can take 1/32 off each side on my Makita
> planer at home. But I've never had them harm a board so much it
> couldn't be cleaned up with a couple of passes. If you have planing
> defects even 1/32 deep, I'd say they ruined it for its intended
> purpose. I agree with Leon. Press them to replace the wood or give
> your money back.
>
> DonkeyHody
> "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
> are not."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

DonkeyHody,

Thank you for the suggestion! I called them up and they are pretty
good on services. They agree to refund the money, but they said they
can't do a better job than that. It is just a nature of crossgrain. I
think I should take your suggestion to ask them plane it to 1/16 more.
Just wonder what type of planer do you use? I am thinking of returning
some and leave some relatively good ones to keep my work going, since
some part may not need perfect lumber. And buy some more to ask them
to plane it to 1/16 to.

Tom

t

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 7:29 PM

On Oct 19, 1:29 pm, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 9:52 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> > for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> > it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> > together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> > Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> > other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> > same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> > going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> > be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> > somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> > 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> > 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> > 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> > 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Tom
>
> That's not the way my mahogony turns out. I sometimes get a little
> fuzzy grain out of the planer, but it sands right out.
> The place where I buy wood uses too fast a feed rate that leaves
> scallops in the wood, so I always have them leave it an extra
> sixteenth too thick so I can take 1/32 off each side on my Makita
> planer at home. But I've never had them harm a board so much it
> couldn't be cleaned up with a couple of passes. If you have planing
> defects even 1/32 deep, I'd say they ruined it for its intended
> purpose. I agree with Leon. Press them to replace the wood or give
> your money back.
>
> DonkeyHody
> "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
> are not."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I called them up and they are not bad on customer services. They are
willing to refund all the lumbers but they can do a better planing job
on it for me. I probably will take your method. What type of planer
you are using? I will probably return some and keep some good ones for
my project going, since some part may not need perfect pieces.

Thank you!

Tom

Ds

DonkeyHody

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 1:23 PM

On Oct 19, 2:23 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 19, 1:29 pm, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 9:52 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> > > for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> > > it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> > > together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> > > Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> > > other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> > > same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> > > going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> > > be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> > > somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> > > 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> > > 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> > > 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> > > 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> > > Thank you!
>
> > > Tom
>
> > That's not the way my mahogony turns out. I sometimes get a little
> > fuzzy grain out of the planer, but it sands right out.
> > The place where I buy wood uses too fast a feed rate that leaves
> > scallops in the wood, so I always have them leave it an extra
> > sixteenth too thick so I can take 1/32 off each side on my Makita
> > planer at home. But I've never had them harm a board so much it
> > couldn't be cleaned up with a couple of passes. If you have planing
> > defects even 1/32 deep, I'd say they ruined it for its intended
> > purpose. I agree with Leon. Press them to replace the wood or give
> > your money back.
>
> > DonkeyHody
> > "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they
> > are not."- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> DonkeyHody,
>
> Thank you for the suggestion! I called them up and they are pretty
> good on services. They agree to refund the money, but they said they
> can't do a better job than that. It is just a nature of crossgrain. I
> think I should take your suggestion to ask them plane it to 1/16 more.
> Just wonder what type of planer do you use? I am thinking of returning
> some and leave some relatively good ones to keep my work going, since
> some part may not need perfect lumber. And buy some more to ask them
> to plane it to 1/16 to.
>
> Tom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My planer is an old 15" Makita model 2040. I don't think they even
make them anymore. It's underpowered and very slow, but it leaves a
good finish that requires very little sanding. You should be able to
get much better results that you've seen so far from just about any
planer if it's set up properly.

DonkeyHody
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor
judgement."

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 1:12 PM


<[email protected]> wrote:


> Thank you for the suggestion! I called them up and they are pretty
> good on services. They agree to refund the money, but they said they
> can't do a better job than that. It is just a nature of crossgrain.

Have them plane new stock +1/8", then go to a commercial drum sanding
shop and have them sand it to size.

Check with a local top shop if you have trouble finding a sanding
shop.

Lew

Ll

"Lee"

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 3:47 PM

1> NO
2> With a quality planer and SHARP blades
3> If they have enough stock left re-plane them.1/8" gouge???? my lawn mower
planes better than that.
4> Only if you feel the results are acceptable.
Sounds like they where in a hurry and made heavy cuts. I'd raise holy hell
for screwing up that costly a wood and demand replacing the wood. If they
are a reliable and responsible dealer they will admit there error.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I bought some African Mohagany and asked the lumber store to plane it
> for me. After I got them, all boards come out having very bad mars on
> it. Seems like a dull planer blade pulling the soft part of wood grain
> together. It looks all ruined to me. But the store tells me that is
> Mohagany looks like. Their theory is the same planer works fine for
> other wood species.( it is true, I bought some oak and maple at the
> same time. They all look good). I don't know what to do now. I was
> going to use them for panel cabinet doors. Now I can't. The marks will
> be all over the face of doors.( some are as deep as 1/8"). Just wonder
> somebody here can help me with the following questions.
> 1. Is it normal for African Mohagany to be planed like this?
> 2. What is the best way to plane this type of wood?
> 3. Anyway to save these boards ( I bought a lot, around 100bf)
> 4. With mark on it, will that be fine for the cabinet?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tom
>

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

20/10/2007 10:40 AM

Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a 734 Dewalt. Not the best but it does a great job and the
> knives are very easy to turn or replace.

I have the same planer and used it last year to do a project with
African Mahogany. No problems with tearout.

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remove ".invalid".

Ll

"Lee"

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 5:56 PM

You should give the name of the supplier in case others here might buy from
them so that they are aware of a possible problem.

Ll

"Lee"

in reply to [email protected] on 19/10/2007 2:52 PM

19/10/2007 7:45 PM


Glad to hear they'll help. I have a 734 Dewalt. Not the best but it does a
great job and the knives are very easy to turn or replace.
If they can't do better then they must have a problem using there planer.Ask
them if they can make lighter cuts.


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