I have a standard 2HP DC with the usual upper and lower cloth bag. However,
I note that when using this DC to collect the router and saw shavings from
solid surface countertops that the fine dust soon clogs the upper bag, thus
reducing the DC's efficiency. For just about $200, I could convert my DC to
a canister filter on the top and plastic bag on the bottom. According to
Penn State Industries catalog, the canister dramatically improve a DC's
efficiency by providing much more filter area and a finer filter for
flour-like dust (such as that produced from cutting and milling solid
surface). Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
conventional cloth bags)?
Thanks in advance for your input.
TEF wrote:
> Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
> Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
> conventional cloth bags)?
My only experience is with the Jet cannister vs. the stock bags on a
DC-1100A.
The flow with the cannister installed is vastly better than the bags.
My DC is located in an area with a 7 foot ceiling, larger than stock
bags wouldn't fit, so the canister was my only option. Overall, I'm
happy with the value vs. performance of the upgrade.
Barry
[email protected] wrote:
> Also, would it be overkill to use a "Cyclone Cover" with a 1HP unit or
> would it work?
This is cheap maintenance for whatever DC you end up with. Rather than chips
going though your impellor blades, they end up in the trash can. How much
longer would you think impellor blades might last? Just imagine an airliner
engine ingesting a bird and you get the picture.
The cyclones are dirt cheap compared to the cost of what you're trying to
protect. That makes it an easy decision. <G>
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
[email protected] wrote:
> You guys are all using 1½ to 2 HP DCs and I was wondering whether a 1
> HP with a 4" inlet is worthwhile for my small workshop... assuming I'm
> using one tool at a time?
It would be fine for one tool at a time, with a short pipe and few turns.
>
> Also, would it be overkill to use a "Cyclone Cover" with a 1HP unit or
> would it work?
It wouldn't be overkill with a jointer or planer. They make a lot of
chips and the can is usually easier to empty than a DC bag.
Barry
I've used both Jets. a 1200 with bags and more recently an 1100 ck with can
filter and remote. I'd say during use, i didn't notice any difference from
the 1200 w/bags and the new 1100 canister. both flow well. The advantage
of the canister has is definately better filtration. I've noticed much less
dust in the shop now. Plus, the plastic bag is much easier to change. On
the 1200 the bottom bag had to be clamped to the collar on the outside which
was a real PITA sometimes. On the 1100 ck, the plastic bag is held in place
by a ring that fits inside the collar on the DC. Much easier.
--dave
"B a r r y"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TEF wrote:
>
>> Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
>> Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
>> conventional cloth bags)?
>
>
> My only experience is with the Jet cannister vs. the stock bags on a
> DC-1100A.
>
> The flow with the cannister installed is vastly better than the bags. My
> DC is located in an area with a 7 foot ceiling, larger than stock bags
> wouldn't fit, so the canister was my only option. Overall, I'm happy with
> the value vs. performance of the upgrade.
>
> Barry
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:57:15 -0500, "TEF" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a standard 2HP DC with the usual upper and lower cloth bag. However,
>I note that when using this DC to collect the router and saw shavings from
>solid surface countertops that the fine dust soon clogs the upper bag, thus
>reducing the DC's efficiency. For just about $200, I could convert my DC to
>a canister filter on the top and plastic bag on the bottom. According to
>Penn State Industries catalog, the canister dramatically improve a DC's
>efficiency by providing much more filter area and a finer filter for
>flour-like dust (such as that produced from cutting and milling solid
>surface). Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
>Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
>conventional cloth bags)?
>
>Thanks in advance for your input.
>
I just saw one of those canister demonstrations. There's a handle on
top that you rotate. As it rotates, it vibrates the canister and
scrapes the dust to the bag below.
Amazon sells a canister replacement for about $150. I used it on my Delta
2hp DC. Amazon's search for canister vac stuff returns a retro kit for Jet
DCs for about $200. The retro kit includes metal ring that canister sits on
and the clear bag clips to. Unfortunately the air intake for this ring is a
different size than that on the blower on the Delta DC. Bottom line, keep
searching on Amazon for the $150 canister only. That said... I use the DC
equally for chip pick up (tablesaw, planner, etc) and dust (stationary
sander). I can't tell if the suction has improved but the amount of dust
that blows through the top bag (5 micron bag) has clearly diminished
(canister is 2 micron). Also, having a clear plastic bag is much better
because you can see when it needs to be emptied.
"TEF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a standard 2HP DC with the usual upper and lower cloth bag.
However,
> I note that when using this DC to collect the router and saw shavings from
> solid surface countertops that the fine dust soon clogs the upper bag,
thus
> reducing the DC's efficiency. For just about $200, I could convert my DC
to
> a canister filter on the top and plastic bag on the bottom. According to
> Penn State Industries catalog, the canister dramatically improve a DC's
> efficiency by providing much more filter area and a finer filter for
> flour-like dust (such as that produced from cutting and milling solid
> surface). Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
> Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
> conventional cloth bags)?
>
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
>
You guys are all using 1½ to 2 HP DCs and I was wondering whether a 1
HP with a 4" inlet is worthwhile for my small workshop... assuming I'm
using one tool at a time?
Also, would it be overkill to use a "Cyclone Cover" with a 1HP unit or
would it work?
Mike
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:57:15 -0500, "TEF" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a standard 2HP DC with the usual upper and lower cloth bag. However,
>I note that when using this DC to collect the router and saw shavings from
>solid surface countertops that the fine dust soon clogs the upper bag, thus
>reducing the DC's efficiency. For just about $200, I could convert my DC to
>a canister filter on the top and plastic bag on the bottom. According to
>Penn State Industries catalog, the canister dramatically improve a DC's
>efficiency by providing much more filter area and a finer filter for
>flour-like dust (such as that produced from cutting and milling solid
>surface). Is anyone using the PSI canisters or those offered by Delta and
>Jet and do DCs with canisters perform as promised (and better than
>conventional cloth bags)?
>
>Thanks in advance for your input.
>