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"Salmo"

01/11/2005 6:43 PM

Making a full size door

I want to build a full size raised panel door (I'm using pine). Search as I
might I haven't found a site that could offer step by step instructions, nor
have I seen it in any magazine. Seems like everything about building doors
focuses on cabinet or cupboard doors!

Unlike a raised panel cabinet door the full sized door would be raised on
both sides. So - here's what I've been told...

- "Thickness plane the wood to 1 3/8"" (done and all the pieces are the
sane thickness and width for the rails)

I assume that I was told 1 3/8th because a.) it seems to be a standard size
and b.) because if the rails are
routed from both sides and the bit is the right depth the middle will be
just right to accept the raised panels.

Am I on the right track??

Any help appreciated...

Thanks Keeter P.


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"stormy2084"

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 10:53 AM

You might want to check out the four-panel door that David Marks did on
Wood Works available at DIYNet:
http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_wwk/episode/0,2046,DIY_14350_26952,00.html

He did this in jarrah with loose mortise construction if I recall.
Also, I think he did his in 1 3/4" construction, but 1 3/8" is very
common.

-Stormy.

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 8:43 PM

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:39:57 GMT, John Girouard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Guess who wrote:
>> If you don't mind a whole bunch of friggin' pop-up in-your-face
>> advertising that is.
>
> http://mozilla.org
> http://adblock.mozdev.org

http://www.getfirefox.com is another option. Haven't seen a popup in
months.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 8:00 PM

Salmo wrote:
> I want to build a full size raised panel door (I'm using pine).
> Search as I might I haven't found a site that could offer step by
> step instructions, nor have I seen it in any magazine. Seems like
> everything about building doors focuses on cabinet or cupboard doors!

You make a passage door just like you make a cabinet door. Only
difference is that the dimensions are bigger.
________________

> Unlike a raised panel cabinet door the full sized door would be
> raised on both sides. So - here's what I've been told...
>
> - "Thickness plane the wood to 1 3/8"" (done and all the pieces are
> the sane thickness and width for the rails)
>
> I assume that I was told 1 3/8th because a.) it seems to be a
> standard size and b.) because if the rails are
> routed from both sides and the bit is the right depth the middle will
> be just right to accept the raised panels.
>
> Am I on the right track??

Maybe, maybe not. You'll need a bit for the panels that will raise them
as you want leaving a tongue of the proper thickness to fit in the dado
in the rails/stiles left by their profile bit. That is easy to do if
your stock is 1 1/2" because there are lots of cabinet making bits meant
for 3/4" stock. Using one of those rather inexpensive bits on *both*
sides of the rails/stiles lcan leave a 1/2" mortice. My panels were
3/4"...raised a 1/8" panel on each side leaving the 1/2" tongue I
wanted.

In your case - with 1 3/8" stock - you may have to settle for a thinner
tongue - that or buy bits meant for passage doors...and they cost 3 - 5X
what a cabinet door bit costs.

It's all in figuring out what the geometry of the bits will give you
with a given thickness of wood.

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"Salmo"

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 9:58 PM

Thanks everyone..

Well - I have a set of Freud cabinet door rail/style bits ...Will have to
experiment on some scrap and learn a few things. That's what it's all about
any way....Learning and satisfaction.

Really don't want to lay out more bucks for something I'll use a few times
(Come to think of it - that didn't stop me buying a lot of other things :O)

Keeter P.

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 10:08 PM


"John Girouard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Guess who wrote:
>> If you don't mind a whole bunch of friggin' pop-up in-your-face
>> advertising that is.
>
> http://mozilla.org
> http://adblock.mozdev.org
>
> -John in NH
The latest version of IE blocks popups.
Jim

Gw

Guess who

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 2:45 PM

On 1 Nov 2005 10:53:29 -0800, "stormy2084" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You might want to check out the four-panel door that David Marks did on
>Wood Works available at DIYNet:
>http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_wwk/episode/0,2046,DIY_14350_26952,00.html

If you don't mind a whole bunch of friggin' pop-up in-your-face
advertising that is. Otherwise take a look through "Fine Woodworking"
magazines. I don't want a trip out ot the shop jsut now, but they
have a really decent example with explanation, and plans.

JG

John Girouard

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 10:39 PM

Jim wrote:
> "John Girouard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Guess who wrote:
>>
>>>If you don't mind a whole bunch of friggin' pop-up in-your-face
>>>advertising that is.
>>
>>http://mozilla.org
>>http://adblock.mozdev.org
>>
>>-John in NH
>
> The latest version of IE blocks popups.
> Jim

That's cool. Adblock can also block images, flash stuff, and even entire
frames. Pretty slick stuff. Does neat wildcard blocking, too. For instance,
here's some of what I block:

http://*.doubleclick.net/*
http://*/ad/*
http://banners.*

Also, IE isn't available for Linux, which puts a bit of a damper on my
trying it out. :)

To get back on topic, I made my first full size door semi-recently, and
though it sounds like the OP is already on the right track here, it might be
worth mentioning that there is such a thing as a minimum door thickness. I
was a touch foolish and just measured off the old door in my old house. I
guess doors were thinner back around the Civil War. When I went to install
the new doorknob I bought, I'll tell you I had a heck of a time drilling a
7/8" hole in a door that is less than 1" thick. As it was, 7/8" is not quite
enough...

-John in NH

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"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 2:06 PM

Salmo wrote:
> I want to build a full size raised panel door (I'm using pine). Search as I
> might I haven't found a site that could offer step by step instructions, nor
> have I seen it in any magazine. Seems like everything about building doors
> focuses on cabinet or cupboard doors!
>
> Unlike a raised panel cabinet door the full sized door would be raised on
> both sides. So - here's what I've been told...
>
> - "Thickness plane the wood to 1 3/8"" (done and all the pieces are the
> sane thickness and width for the rails)
>
> I assume that I was told 1 3/8th because a.) it seems to be a standard size
> and b.) because if the rails are
> routed from both sides and the bit is the right depth the middle will be
> just right to accept the raised panels.
>
> Am I on the right track??
>
> Any help appreciated...
>
> Thanks Keeter P.
>
>


For the rails and stiles see:

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/katbt11.htm

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
(Remove -SPAM- to send email)

JG

John Girouard

in reply to "Salmo" on 01/11/2005 6:43 PM

01/11/2005 8:39 PM

Guess who wrote:
> If you don't mind a whole bunch of friggin' pop-up in-your-face
> advertising that is.

http://mozilla.org
http://adblock.mozdev.org

-John in NH


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