I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee Workshop,
etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could duplicate it. Can
anybody post a link for this and other basic beginner tools & tips? How do
they fasten to the saw?
--
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Silvan wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>
>
>>>DAGS? What's that?
>>>
>>
>>Do A Google Search
>
>
> Funny... This comes up a lot. "What does that mean?" "It means do a
> google search" "Well why don't you just say that, why do you have to use a
> non-standard acronymn, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, whine whine
> whine."
>
> It occurs to me that I haven't seen DAGS used anywhere but here. Most other
> places just say STFW. I guess that means the Wreck is a more polite place
> than usual, and the whiners should STFU.
>
what's a "non-standard acronymn"? All groups of people use there own
terminology, some of it as TLA and FLA. When in Rome.... roam around.
BRuce
hahaha, easy NorthStar, a little less coffee maybe? You are both right.
Doing a google search in the rec.woodworking group for "featherboards"
only takes a second, not hours and results in much the same links as you
did get and perhapse more.
After doing the google search if you had more questions about it's use
or best wood or why would anyone make one out of plywood then that is
where the post comes in.
I have to admit that it is far easier to not reply to a post than to
take the time to hammer DAGS at evryone that asks a question that may
have been answered before but not all of us work the same way. that
what makes life "interesting".
Just to keep this on topic, I also have the bench dog feather boards
but did not buy the miter bar. I just made my own. they are very easy
to setup and I can use them on my router table and my TS. I use on for
rips and the other to hold down.
BRuce
NorthStar wrote:
> Ok, that's it. This will possibly alienate me in this group for a bit, but
> WTF...
>
> Just WTF is your problem, Swingman? What's with all these barbed comments
> about searching the web? Yeah, I can search the web. I can sit here at
> this damn desk for hours on end looking for answers to simple questions on
> the web. Instead, I chose to post a question here for someone more
> knowledgeable than myself to answer. The name of this
> newsgroup--rec.woodworking--implies that people can come here and learn
> things about woodworking. Tips, tricks, techniques, etc. This means
> imparting knowledge to others about what works well, what doesn't work so
> well, and what flat-out sucks.
>
> Just one USEFUL thing that I've learned in the last two days of reading this
> group is what Steve James just posted about positioning the featherboard in
> front of the cutting blade. That useful tidbit will certainly prevent me
> from possible injury and possibly ruining a project piece. It may also
> enlighten others, too. That is, by my definition, a useful post.
>
> You, on the other hand, dull your usefulness with rude and insultingly
> barbed comments. If you don't like a question that is asked here, DON'T
> ANSWER THE DAMNED THING!!! Insulting someone who is looking for information
> and help is asinine, childish, and wrong!
>
> The first reply you made to my query, I just chalked it up to your having a
> bad day. When you responded to Steve's reply in the same base way, and
> managed to work in another insulting comment to me, I pegged you as another
> Internet jackass that feels safe and secure in his little room while trying
> to ruin another person's day. The same kind of immature idiot child that
> pokes a stick at a chained dog just to torment it and thereby make himself
> feel big, or tough, or good. While the rest of the world sees you for what
> you really are...
>
> Oh, and lest you think you can delve even farther into childishness and
> commence ranting and raving at me here, I can killfile you. Picture this,
> if you will: you sitting at your computer in your pathetic little room,
> pounding at the keyboard and venomously frothing at the mouth, and I won't
> see a stupid, damn word of it.
>
> On the other hand, if you decide to lose your attitude, we can get along
> famously. It's your choice--be unsociable, or be sociable. Either way,
> it's no sweat off of my backside.
>
ok, I stand corrected. from my information gathering experience I start
the the narrowest search and expand if I get insufficient results. if I
am trying to get an answer to a woodworking question, I start with the
wreck and expand from there. I don't read any other groups so have to
plead ignorance on this one.
{sarcastic comment deleted}
BRuce
Michael Daly wrote:
> On 28-Oct-2003, BRuce <BRuce> wrote:
>
>
>> Doing a google search in the rec.woodworking group for "featherboards"
>>only takes a second,
>
>
> Well, I think that a lot of folks would interpret DAGS as meaning search
> web sites, not newsgroups. The former can take hours.
>
> The _only_ newsgroup that I frequent which assumes newsgroup search by
> default is this one. This newsgroup has it's own inside jokes, it's own
> abbreviations/acronyms/whatever etc, and the learning curve isn't as
> trivial to the newbie as some other newsgroups. Even going through the
> FAQs (e.g. http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/roche/wood.html) would take some
> time to find every nuanced bit of trivia that relates to this group.
>
> Cut the newbies a little slack.
>
> Mike
I like that, can i borrow that from time to time? :-)
BRuce
(While I did not find them offensive, I did find them unnecessary to get
the point across)
Bob Gramza wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> : So Bob ... if the words are that offensive to you, why did you repost them?
>
>
> : Because I forgot to delete them. If I were perfect I would probably be you.
> : --
> :
>
>
:-) wouldn't we all!
Mark wrote:
>
>
> Kevin French wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You need to go to the google search for this group:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&group=rec.woodworking
>>
>> Then click the little butonthat says/reads:
>>
>> "Search only in rec.woodworking"
>
>
>
> Thanks, I learn something every day.
>
>
>
>> If more people used it we won't have to tell SO MANY people what table
>> saw to buy. But that will never happen, thats why old timers just type
>> "DAGS"
>
>
>
> Do A Google Search, how obvious.
>
> If brain farts had smell I'd be suffocating.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
>
--
---
BRuce
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
This page is OK for tips on construction. I prefer poplar over plywood
for featherboards. The illustration of how to use the featherboard is
WRONG! Having the featherboard extend past the front of the blade is
asking for kickback.
Bench Dog Tools makes an excellent plastic featherboard called the
Feather-Loc. It is connected to an aluminum bar that locks in a mitre
slot with two screw down handles that expand the aluminum bar. It is
so quick to set up that I use it for all rip cuts where it will fit. My
homemade featherboards work fine but take more set up time to clamp to
the table or clamp to the fence.
--
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Swingman wrote:
> Hey ... it ain't my page, take it up with the author. The OP didn't know
> what a featherboard was, now he does. He didn't know how to search the web,
> now he should. The page url was posted at random as an example of what he
> could find if he took the time to search for himself ... I wasn't about to
> read the damn thing for him too.
>
Check out this months Fine WW'ing, "Methods of Work" They're using Rare
Earth Magnets to keep them in position
Kevin
Mark wrote:
>
>
> BRuce wrote:
>
>> hahaha, easy NorthStar, a little less coffee maybe? You are both
>> right. Doing a google search in the rec.woodworking group for
>> "featherboards" only takes a second, not hours and results in much the
>> same links as you did get and perhapse more.
>
>
>
>
> I was wondering what SWMBO meant, Googled it and, golly, first on the
> list was woodbutcher.net.
>
> ;]
>
>
> What a brain fart, I've referred to my wife as She Who Must be Obeyed
> before (I damned near got thrown out of The Man Club for saying it too),
> for some reason it didn't click.
>
> What the hells a DAG(S), I googled it and came up with it being a NZ
> term for getting ones ass in gear.?
>
> I've felt impatience at people asking simple questions where any effort
> in a search engine would have gotten them more information than needed.
> OTOH I've done searches and found myself 6 pages in before finding the
> information needed, the first 6 pages being entities trying to sell me
> something.
>
You need to go to the google search for this group:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&group=rec.woodworking
Then click the little butonthat says/reads:
"Search only in rec.woodworking"
Then you won't get all the "BUY FEATHERBOARDS" crap
696 Items it took .7 seconds first six pages and not a single "BUY
FEATHERBOARDS" Item
You can also "Sort by Date" once the results come back then you'll have
the most up todate info.
If more people used it we won't have to tell SO MANY people what table
saw to buy. But that will never happen, thats why old timers just type
"DAGS"
Kevin
> OSATH, I remember there was a time before corporations found the web
> where most every page was informative but finding these pages was a bit
> of a PITA.
>
>
> Hmm, I guess I should write something here that's on the subjects topic.
>
> Feather boards, yes, I'm going to make one.
>
> Never have been comfortable buying something I can make myself.
>
>
>
> --
>
So Bob ... if the words are that offensive to you, why did you repost them?
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"Bob Gramza" wrote in message
>
> Now now now, people of all ages read these groups (kids also). There is
enough foul and obscene
> content here from spammers and the like. No need for educated
professionals to add to the foul mess.
>
>
http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
Tip beneficial to newbies: Learn to use Goggle.
There is a world(wide web) of woodworking lore at your fingertips, so DAGS
by typing in "featherboards" at:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
... and you'll get more than you ever wanted to know about same.
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Last update: 9/21/03
"NorthStar" wrote in message
> I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee
Workshop,
> etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could duplicate it. Can
> anybody post a link for this and other basic beginner tools & tips? How
do
> they fasten to the saw?
The original message was intended to help you, a self-professed newbie, with
two INFORMATIVE links posted to do so ... ... you're welcome shithead.
If you took my post the wrong way, it is entirely YOUR problem.
Now, be prepared to 'WTF" some more:
Did you search the archives before you posted? Obviously not ... but had you
lurked a bit before you tried to become a forum moderator with the post
below, you would have known it is expected that you should do so before
posting that type of question.
Count yourself lucky that it was me that TOOK THE TIME to answer your
original post and not JOAT
Spend less time erroneously castigating and more time lurking ... you will
learn a lot more around here.
Now go fuck yourself.
--
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Last update: 9/21/03
"NorthStar" wrote in message
> On the other hand, if you decide to lose your attitude, we can get along
> famously. It's your choice--be unsociable, or be sociable. Either way,
> it's no sweat off of my backside.
>
> --
> NorthStar
NorthStar wrote:
> I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee
> Workshop, etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could
> duplicate it. Can anybody post a link for this and other basic
> beginner tools & tips? How do they fasten to the saw?
I have several shop made ones and a commercial one similar to the links
below. The commercial tightens in the miter slot and is very handy when
what you're cutting doesn't cover the miter slot.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H3309
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=5926
-- Mark
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: So Bob ... if the words are that offensive to you, why did you repost them?
: Because I forgot to delete them. If I were perfect I would probably be you.
: --
:
BRuce wrote:
> hahaha, easy NorthStar, a little less coffee maybe? You are both right.
> Doing a google search in the rec.woodworking group for "featherboards"
> only takes a second, not hours and results in much the same links as you
> did get and perhapse more.
I was wondering what SWMBO meant, Googled it and, golly, first on the
list was woodbutcher.net.
;]
What a brain fart, I've referred to my wife as She Who Must be Obeyed
before (I damned near got thrown out of The Man Club for saying it too),
for some reason it didn't click.
What the hells a DAG(S), I googled it and came up with it being a NZ
term for getting ones ass in gear.?
I've felt impatience at people asking simple questions where any effort
in a search engine would have gotten them more information than needed.
OTOH I've done searches and found myself 6 pages in before finding the
information needed, the first 6 pages being entities trying to sell me
something.
OSATH, I remember there was a time before corporations found the web
where most every page was informative but finding these pages was a bit
of a PITA.
Hmm, I guess I should write something here that's on the subjects topic.
Feather boards, yes, I'm going to make one.
Never have been comfortable buying something I can make myself.
--
NorthStar wrote...
> I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee Workshop,
> etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could duplicate it. Can
> anybody post a link for this and other basic beginner tools & tips? How do
> they fasten to the saw?
>
>
Go to my site http://www.knology.net/~woodworkersbench/Free%20Plans.htm
There are a couple of plans there under "F"
--
Jake Jarvis
______________________________________________________________________
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the hell
happened.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> DAGS? What's that?
>
>
Do A Google Search
--
Mark
The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.
Triple Z is spam control.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: The original message was intended to help you, a self-professed newbie, with
: two INFORMATIVE links posted to do so ... ... you're welcome shithead.
:
: If you took my post the wrong way, it is entirely YOUR problem.
:
: Now, be prepared to 'WTF" some more:
:
: Did you search the archives before you posted? Obviously not ... but had you
: lurked a bit before you tried to become a forum moderator with the post
: below, you would have known it is expected that you should do so before
: posting that type of question.
:
: Count yourself lucky that it was me that TOOK THE TIME to answer your
: original post and not JOAT
:
: Spend less time erroneously castigating and more time lurking ... you will
: learn a lot more around here.
:
: Now go fuck yourself.
:
Now now now, people of all ages read these groups (kids also). There is enough foul and obscene
content here from spammers and the like. No need for educated professionals to add to the foul mess.
Kevin French wrote:
>
>
> You need to go to the google search for this group:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&group=rec.woodworking
>
> Then click the little butonthat says/reads:
>
> "Search only in rec.woodworking"
Thanks, I learn something every day.
> If more people used it we won't have to tell SO MANY people what table
> saw to buy. But that will never happen, thats why old timers just type
> "DAGS"
Do A Google Search, how obvious.
If brain farts had smell I'd be suffocating.
Thanks.
--
On 28-Oct-2003, BRuce <BRuce> wrote:
> Doing a google search in the rec.woodworking group for "featherboards"
> only takes a second,
Well, I think that a lot of folks would interpret DAGS as meaning search
web sites, not newsgroups. The former can take hours.
The _only_ newsgroup that I frequent which assumes newsgroup search by
default is this one. This newsgroup has it's own inside jokes, it's own
abbreviations/acronyms/whatever etc, and the learning curve isn't as
trivial to the newbie as some other newsgroups. Even going through the
FAQs (e.g. http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/roche/wood.html) would take some
time to find every nuanced bit of trivia that relates to this group.
Cut the newbies a little slack.
Mike
Hey ... it ain't my page, take it up with the author. The OP didn't know
what a featherboard was, now he does. He didn't know how to search the web,
now he should. The page url was posted at random as an example of what he
could find if he took the time to search for himself ... I wasn't about to
read the damn thing for him too.
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Last update: 9/21/03
"Steve James" wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
>
> > http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
>
> This page is OK for tips on construction. I prefer poplar over plywood
> for featherboards. The illustration of how to use the featherboard is
> WRONG! Having the featherboard extend past the front of the blade is
> asking for kickback.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:43:53 -0500, [email protected] (Steve James)
scribbled
>Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
>
>This page is OK for tips on construction. I prefer poplar over plywood
>for featherboards. The illustration of how to use the featherboard is
>WRONG! Having the featherboard extend past the front of the blade is
>asking for kickback.
I agree emphatically. It will push the offcut into the blade, ensuring
that the wood becomes a projectile.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:44:35 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> scribbled
>Mark wrote:
>
>>> DAGS? What's that?
>>>
>> Do A Google Search
>
>Funny... This comes up a lot. "What does that mean?" "It means do a
>google search" "Well why don't you just say that, why do you have to use a
>non-standard acronymn, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, whine whine
>whine."
>
>It occurs to me that I haven't seen DAGS used anywhere but here. Most other
>places just say STFW. I guess that means the Wreck is a more polite place
>than usual, and the whiners should STFU.
DAGS --> tmLJ.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
Mark wrote:
>> DAGS? What's that?
>>
> Do A Google Search
Funny... This comes up a lot. "What does that mean?" "It means do a
google search" "Well why don't you just say that, why do you have to use a
non-standard acronymn, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, whine whine
whine."
It occurs to me that I haven't seen DAGS used anywhere but here. Most other
places just say STFW. I guess that means the Wreck is a more polite place
than usual, and the whiners should STFU.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
>
> Tip beneficial to newbies: Learn to use Goggle.
>
> There is a world(wide web) of woodworking lore at your fingertips, so DAGS
> by typing in "featherboards" at:
>
> http://www.google.com/advanced_search
>
> ... and you'll get more than you ever wanted to know about same.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 9/21/03
>
>
>
> "NorthStar" wrote in message
> > I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee
> Workshop,
> > etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could duplicate it. Can
> > anybody post a link for this and other basic beginner tools & tips? How
> do
> > they fasten to the saw?
>
>
I have a plan for one on my site.
--
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"NorthStar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've heard of 'em, and seen 'em in use by Norm on TOH, New Yankee
Workshop,
> etc., but I've never seen a picture of one so I could duplicate it. Can
> anybody post a link for this and other basic beginner tools & tips? How
do
> they fasten to the saw?
>
> --
> NorthStar
>
> Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
>
> Spam protected -- Remove _NadaSpam_ to e-mail
>
>
Ok, that's it. This will possibly alienate me in this group for a bit, but
WTF...
Just WTF is your problem, Swingman? What's with all these barbed comments
about searching the web? Yeah, I can search the web. I can sit here at
this damn desk for hours on end looking for answers to simple questions on
the web. Instead, I chose to post a question here for someone more
knowledgeable than myself to answer. The name of this
newsgroup--rec.woodworking--implies that people can come here and learn
things about woodworking. Tips, tricks, techniques, etc. This means
imparting knowledge to others about what works well, what doesn't work so
well, and what flat-out sucks.
Just one USEFUL thing that I've learned in the last two days of reading this
group is what Steve James just posted about positioning the featherboard in
front of the cutting blade. That useful tidbit will certainly prevent me
from possible injury and possibly ruining a project piece. It may also
enlighten others, too. That is, by my definition, a useful post.
You, on the other hand, dull your usefulness with rude and insultingly
barbed comments. If you don't like a question that is asked here, DON'T
ANSWER THE DAMNED THING!!! Insulting someone who is looking for information
and help is asinine, childish, and wrong!
The first reply you made to my query, I just chalked it up to your having a
bad day. When you responded to Steve's reply in the same base way, and
managed to work in another insulting comment to me, I pegged you as another
Internet jackass that feels safe and secure in his little room while trying
to ruin another person's day. The same kind of immature idiot child that
pokes a stick at a chained dog just to torment it and thereby make himself
feel big, or tough, or good. While the rest of the world sees you for what
you really are...
Oh, and lest you think you can delve even farther into childishness and
commence ranting and raving at me here, I can killfile you. Picture this,
if you will: you sitting at your computer in your pathetic little room,
pounding at the keyboard and venomously frothing at the mouth, and I won't
see a stupid, damn word of it.
On the other hand, if you decide to lose your attitude, we can get along
famously. It's your choice--be unsociable, or be sociable. Either way,
it's no sweat off of my backside.
--
NorthStar
Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey ... it ain't my page, take it up with the author. The OP didn't know
> what a featherboard was, now he does. He didn't know how to search the
web,
> now he should. The page url was posted at random as an example of what he
> could find if he took the time to search for himself ... I wasn't about to
> read the damn thing for him too.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 9/21/03
>
>
> "Steve James" wrote in message
> > Swingman wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.woodzone.com/tips/featherboard.htm
> >
> > This page is OK for tips on construction. I prefer poplar over plywood
> > for featherboards. The illustration of how to use the featherboard is
> > WRONG! Having the featherboard extend past the front of the blade is
> > asking for kickback.
>
>