I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
works with that.
Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
--
Mike McDonald
[email protected]
"Mike McDonald" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my
> table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe
> screams for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR).
> As none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of
> recommendations
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something
> that
> works with that.
>
> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Mike McDonald
> [email protected]
MM:
Try Mine Safety Appliance(s), which should have a web site.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
It's not top heavy, and I'm a klutz so I bang my head on things
whether I wear it or not.
It isn't much heavier than my Sears face mask, and it is actually more
comfortable because it's supported on my whole face, instead of just
the headband.
The only problem is that if I raise it, it won't stay up. On the
other hand, it doesn't fog so I don't have to raise it unless I want
to blow my nose.
I had the same worries, and tried it out in the store before I bought
it.
Old Guy
On Jan 4, 11:07=A0am, [email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]=
om>,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Old Guy <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Second the motion for a Trend.
> > I've used it for 6 months and love it.
> > No problems.
> > Old Guy
>
> =A0 Looking at the photos of the Trend makes me worry that it might be top=
heavy.
> Have you had any problems keeping it on and straight? Do you bang the top =
of your
> head on things with it on?
>
> --
>
> =A0 Mike McDonald
> =A0 [email protected]
Second the motion for a Trend.
I've used it for 6 months and love it.
No problems.
Old Guy
On Jan 3, 8:32=A0pm, marc rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello mike,
> I have been using a Trend for almost a year now and I'm sorry I did
> not get one sooner. =A0I grow a full beard starting with bowhunting
> season in September and it stays on until springtime so any of the
> form fitting respirators are not efficient. =A0The Trend is very
> comfortable but if you have wire frame glasses as I do - or large
> frames in general - you may have to set the head band a little tighter
> and higher so it does not move your glasses while working.
> I bought extra batteries so I can keep a set charged (24 hr per
> battery is recommended charging time =A0and a set of two runs the Trend
> for 8+ hours =A0although I have never run it that long in one session)
> I have seen a newer version in some magazines but never up close
> although I'm hopeful there will be one at the Timonium woodworkers
> show this weekend.
> I think Woodcraft sells the Trend by mail but this is something you
> should try on first before you buy- if at all possible. =A0(Similar to a
> wetsuit if you are a windsurfer, for example). =A0Ask if they have a "no
> questions asked" return policy.
>
> Marc (whom also uses his Trend when he rakes out his duck pens)
I only felt it (TREND) was heavy the first time I wore it but I became
use to the load within a few minutes. On a few occasions I have had
it get snagged on a dangling light switch cord but now I'm cognizant
of those obstacles.
Hey OLD GUY, have you tried tightening the two knobs on either side
of the helmet? These tension knobs should enable you to get the
"hinge" tight enough so it will stay up when lifted.
Marc
On Jan 5, 6:20=A0pm, Old Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's not top heavy, and I'm a klutz so I bang my head on things
> whether I wear it or not.
>
> It isn't much heavier than my Sears face mask, and it is actually more
> comfortable because it's supported on my whole face, instead of just
> the headband.
>
> The only problem is that if I raise it, it won't stay up. =A0On the
> other hand, it doesn't fog so I don't have to raise it unless I want
> to blow my nose.
>
> I had the same worries, and tried it out in the store before I bought
> it.
>
> Old Guy
>
> On Jan 4, 11:07=A0am, [email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <[email protected]=
.com>,
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Old Guy <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > > Second the motion for a Trend.
> > > I've used it for 6 months and love it.
> > > No problems.
> > > Old Guy
>
> > =A0 Looking at the photos of the Trend makes me worry that it might be t=
op heavy.
> > Have you had any problems keeping it on and straight? Do you bang the to=
p of your
> > head on things with it on?
>
> > --
>
> > =A0 Mike McDonald
> > =A0 [email protected] Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello mike,
I have been using a Trend for almost a year now and I'm sorry I did
not get one sooner. I grow a full beard starting with bowhunting
season in September and it stays on until springtime so any of the
form fitting respirators are not efficient. The Trend is very
comfortable but if you have wire frame glasses as I do - or large
frames in general - you may have to set the head band a little tighter
and higher so it does not move your glasses while working.
I bought extra batteries so I can keep a set charged (24 hr per
battery is recommended charging time and a set of two runs the Trend
for 8+ hours although I have never run it that long in one session)
I have seen a newer version in some magazines but never up close
although I'm hopeful there will be one at the Timonium woodworkers
show this weekend.
I think Woodcraft sells the Trend by mail but this is something you
should try on first before you buy- if at all possible. (Similar to a
wetsuit if you are a windsurfer, for example). Ask if they have a "no
questions asked" return policy.
Marc (whom also uses his Trend when he rakes out his duck pens)
Thu, Jan 3, 2008, 6:32pm (EST-3) : [email protected] (marc=A0rosen) doth
sayeth:
<snip> Marc (whom also uses his Trend when he rakes out his duck pens)
Ducks can write?
JOAT
You can't always judge by appearances, the early bird may have been up
all night.
On Jan 4, 12:03=A0am, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Thu, Jan 3, 2008, 6:32pm (EST-3) : [email protected] (marc=A0rosen) doth
> sayeth:
> <snip> Marc (whom also uses his Trend when he rakes out his duck pens)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Ducks can write?
>
> JOAT
> You can't always judge by appearances, the early bird may have been up
> all night.
Seriously, they just wing it.
Marc
Mike McDonald wrote:
> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
> works with that.
>
> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
You must have a lot of money to get rid of. I have used (when
forced to by OSHA regulations) used 3M products. The hoods
hoses, battery packs, pumps and everything came to around
3,000 bucks. I hated every minute of being in them so can't
vouch for their comfort.
I used either a North or Northern rig on a job where it was
furnished by the company I was working for. Ran about 2,000
bucks. Hated every minute of it and had to wear it for 5
hours at a stretch.
At the shop, I just use a cannister type for exotic poisonous
woods and have never had a problem. Sanding is the worst for
me as far as having reactions. I can get by with a particle
mask if my DC is working right.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
On Jan 3, 2:34=EF=BF=BDpm, [email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
> =EF=BF=BD I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between tha=
t, my table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screa=
ms for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). =
As none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommenda=
tions
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something t=
hat
> works with that.
>
> =EF=BF=BD Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.=
Thanks.
>
> --
>
> =EF=BF=BD Mike McDonald
> =EF=BF=BD [email protected]
My Wifes Ex, used an airless compressor for cleaning the bottom of
their boat. He left, the compressor stayed. I used it a few times to
clean the bottom of our boat, underwater, with a scuba regulator
hooked up to it.
Then when I was doing a lot of sanding on the boat, I bought a used
full face respirator on ebay, removed the canister, and hooked the
hose to it. It worked great. I think the compressor is a Gast brand.
It's a small unit, but not cheap.
Cliff
Edward Hennessey wrote:
> "Mike McDonald" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my
>> table
>> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe
>> screams for,
>> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR).
>> As none
>> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of
>> recommendations
>> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something
>> that
>> works with that.
>>
>> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike McDonald
>> [email protected]
>
> MM:
>
> Try Mine Safety Appliance(s), which should have a web site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
>
>
Get a Trend respirator. I believe Craft Supplies in Utah sells
them.They only cost a couple hundred. I have the forerunner of the
Trend and use it for wood turning. I also had a full beard and never
found it to be a problem.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mike McDonald) writes:
> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
> works with that.
>
> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Just for the record, I bought the Triton today.
I tried the Trend but it wasn't going to work. I had to let out the headband as
far as it would go and then it was still too tight. But then I couldn't raise the
face shield because the stupid black plastic piece that covers the crown of your
head would hit the middle of mine when raised!
--
Mike McDonald
[email protected]
I have one by SAS safety corp.
It has a compressor with a charcoal canister on it, and a scott type
face mask. It might even be scott for all I know.
I used to spray imron and am also highly alergic to balsa dust.
Balsa aside from being used in Model planes, used to be heavily used in
full size craft too. Laminated between aluminum sheets.
Anyway, it is life saving, but as Robert says it's not comfortable. You
dry out real bad, it takes a while to get used to having air forced at
you. But it does do the job, just remember not to remove it until you
are in a clean room. You don't want the dust to settle inside of the shield.
Mike McDonald wrote:
> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
> works with that.
>
> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Old Guy <[email protected]> writes:
> Second the motion for a Trend.
> I've used it for 6 months and love it.
> No problems.
> Old Guy
Looking at the photos of the Trend makes me worry that it might be top heavy.
Have you had any problems keeping it on and straight? Do you bang the top of your
head on things with it on?
--
Mike McDonald
[email protected]
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, Robert Allison <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mike McDonald wrote:
> > I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
> > saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
> > I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
> > of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
> > as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
> > works with that.
>
> > Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> You must have a lot of money to get rid of. I have used (when
> forced to by OSHA regulations) used 3M products. The hoods
> hoses, battery packs, pumps and everything came to around
> 3,000 bucks. I hated every minute of being in them so can't
> vouch for their comfort.
>
> I used either a North or Northern rig on a job where it was
> furnished by the company I was working for. Ran about 2,000
> bucks. Hated every minute of it and had to wear it for 5
> hours at a stretch.
>
> At the shop, I just use a cannister type for exotic poisonous
> woods and have never had a problem. Sanding is the worst for
> me as far as having reactions. I can get by with a particle
> mask if my DC is working right.
Last year I bought a Bullard PAPR PA20 on eBay with two hoods and the
quick charger for just over a hundred bucks including shipping. All
new. Thing works great - wish I'd picked one up years ago. It's the
first PAPR I've ever used - my first burp in the thing nearly killed
me. ;)
R
Marc,
Actually, yes.
When the mask stayed up, the nuts were so tight that I couldn't get
the front off to charge the batttery. Of course I COULD loosen and
tighten them each time, but I'm lazy.
Might have to rethink that, if my nose runs a lot.
BTW, I found a new hazard yesterday. It was 30 degrees in the shop,
so I decided that I should warm the mask a bit, to keep my breath from
condensing. I put it on, and moved closer to the radiant gas heater.
Too close, I guess. The fan sucked in some hot gas, and melted a hole
in both of the filters. Got a bit of smoke inside the mask too.
Damn--That's going to cost $$$.
Darn brain farts anyway.
Old Guy
On Jan 5, 8:23=A0pm, marc rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I only felt it (TREND) was heavy the first time I wore it but I became
> use to the load within a few minutes. =A0On a few occasions I have had
> it get snagged on a dangling light switch cord but now I'm cognizant
> of those obstacles.
> Hey OLD GUY, =A0have you tried tightening the two knobs on either side
> of the helmet? =A0These tension knobs should enable you to get the
> "hinge" tight enough so it will stay up when lifted.
>
> Marc
> On Jan 5, 6:20=A0pm, Old Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's not top heavy, and I'm a klutz so I bang my head on things
> > whether I wear it or not.
>
> > It isn't much heavier than my Sears face mask, and it is actually more
> > comfortable because it's supported on my whole face, instead of just
> > the headband.
>
> > The only problem is that if I raise it, it won't stay up. =A0On the
> > other hand, it doesn't fog so I don't have to raise it unless I want
> > to blow my nose.
>
> > I had the same worries, and tried it out in the store before I bought
> > it.
>
> > Old Guy
>
> > On Jan 4, 11:07=A0am, [email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
>
> > > In article <[email protected]=
ps.com>,
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Old Guy <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > > > Second the motion for a Trend.
> > > > I've used it for 6 months and love it.
> > > > No problems.
> > > > Old Guy
> > > =A0 Looking at the photos of the Trend makes me worry that it might be=
top heavy.
> > > Have you had any problems keeping it on and straight? Do you bang the =
top of your
> > > head on things with it on?
>
> > > --
>
> > > =A0 Mike McDonald
> > > =A0 [email protected] Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey OLD GUY,
Wow, that had to be very close to the heater to melt them. Not trying
to sound like I'm lecturing, but the knobs are supposed to be loosened
for each battery change and then tightened as desired after snapping
in the two lock tabs on each side of the mask. Takes a little time
but you'll see how easily the mask stays up once you get the tension
adjusted the way you want it.
And speaking of brain "farts", Bill Grumbine- the famous turner - was
giving our turning club a demo and he was touting the virtues of the
full face respirators with blowers. He warned us about the "Burrito
Factor" mentioning that the mask will direct a full stream of "bean
gas" right across your olfactory organs. Be prepared is all he said.
I think most shops that sell TRENDs stock the pre and post filters as
well as the batteries. My local Woodcraft has/had them on their shelf
recently.
Stay safe,
Marc
Mike McDonald <[email protected]> wrote:
: I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
: saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams for,
: I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As none
: of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of recommendations
: as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
: works with that.
: Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have a beard as well. The unit I use is an oler version of this one:
http://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/product/3M-Breathe-Easy-1-System-Assembly.html
It has a faceshield, air fitration system, and a hardhat.
It works well.
-- Andy Barss
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my table
> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe screams
> for,
> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR). As
> none
> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of
> recommendations
> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something that
> works with that.
>
> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
IMHO the best
http://www.airwareamerica.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=21
and 2nd (and what I actually wear)
http://www.airwareamerica.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=17
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mike McDonald) wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Old Guy <[email protected]> writes:
> > Second the motion for a Trend.
> > I've used it for 6 months and love it.
> > No problems.
> > Old Guy
>
> Looking at the photos of the Trend makes me worry that it might be top
> heavy.
> Have you had any problems keeping it on and straight? Do you bang the top of
> your
> head on things with it on?
I haven't had any issues
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Edward Hennessey wrote:
> "Mike McDonald" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I was lucky enough to receive a lathe for Christmas. Between that, my
>> table
>> saw and my thickness planer and the more exotic woods that the lathe
>> screams for,
>> I've decided it's time to invest in a decent full face respirator (PAPR).
>> As none
>> of the wood working shops around town carry any, I'm in need of
>> recommendations
>> as to good models. The catch is I have a full beard, so I need something
>> that
>> works with that.
>>
>> Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike McDonald
>> [email protected]
>
> MM:
>
> Try Mine Safety Appliance(s), which should have a web site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
>
>
Get a Trend respirator. I believe Craft Supplies in Utah sells
them.They only cost a couple hundred. I have the forerunner of the
Trend and use it for wood turning. I also had a full beard and never
found it to be a problem. Its not for toxic chemicals but is great for dust.