My sister-in law was recently repairing the finish on some doors and
door moldings and ran into a problem neither of us understands.
Quoting from her email:
"[after sanding to bare wood] I then varnished
it with Minwax Wood Finish that Penetrates, Stains,
and Seals. I waited for about half a year. I just
coated it with Minwax Polyurethane Clear Semi-gloss.
While it was drying, white patches developed under
it or within it. They weren't there before. It actually
looked better with just the wood varnish on it, no gloss."
Presumeably to fix this the surface will need to
be scraped, stripped or sanded back to bare wood
and finished again, but how can this problem be
prevented second time around?
--
FF
Leon wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>thanks, Leon. the nearest Woodcraft is lamentably 48 miles
>>north of me.
>
>
> Ahhh. a mere hop, skip , and jump away. Might be worth the trip though.
>
>
well...maybe...but gas is $2.15 a gallon. 16 mpg. 6
gallons. $13 in gas! damn!
dave
Well for once, I probably would not blame Minwax for this one. Waiting
about half a year probably was long enough for the previous surface to be
contaminated with "What Ever". If you hear of problems with a finish it is
normally a Minwax product that is being used. In this case a contaminated
surface is probably the culprit.
I agree with the thought that the surface will have to be removed, and the
process started over.
Because of my experience with Miniwax stains and finishes, I suggest a
better brand and finish to start with, just in case, and to try to finish
the whole job ASAP. Don't wait 6 months between coats. Keep the area free
of traffic and hands and contaminates.
Leon wrote:
> I am more and more trying to get away form stains all together. But when I
> use them, I prefer to use Bartleys Gel stains, Zar or General Finishes
> stains. The Zar stains are a liquid but quite thick for a liquid stain.
> Almost like a cheap latex paint as far as viscosity goes.
> IIRC the stains that skim over also have a finish mixed in.
>
>
>
thanks! Do the General Finishes stains dry quickly and have
typical oil-stain viscosity? I hate to give up the quick
drying feature if I switch from Bonakemi. I think they
gelled BECAUSE they are so frickin' quick drying. :)
dave
Leon wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>thanks! Do the General Finishes stains dry quickly and have
>>typical oil-stain viscosity?
>
>
> To tell you the truth, I do not recall. I can say that they do not seem to
> dry as fast as the Bartely gel stains. The Bartley gel stains can be
> lightly handeled usually within 20 minutes. Additionally I don't recall the
> General Finishes stains taking any longer than other stains. If you have a
> Woodcraft near by, they sell Bartleys and General Finishes.
>
>
>
>
thanks, Leon. the nearest Woodcraft is lamentably 48 miles
north of me.
dave
Leon wrote:
> Well for once, I probably would not blame Minwax for this one. Waiting
> about half a year probably was long enough for the previous surface to be
> contaminated with "What Ever". If you hear of problems with a finish it is
> normally a Minwax product that is being used. In this case a contaminated
> surface is probably the culprit.
> I agree with the thought that the surface will have to be removed, and the
> process started over.
>
> Because of my experience with Miniwax stains and finishes, I suggest a
> better brand and finish to start with, just in case, and to try to finish
> the whole job ASAP. Don't wait 6 months between coats. Keep the area free
> of traffic and hands and contaminates.
>
>
Leon, can you tell me again what brand of oil based stain
works well? I've slept since we discussed this. My 2 cans
of Bonakemi oil modified stain have gelled in the cans.
It's great stuff, but I'd like to keep some oil based stain
in stock that won't go bad after opened. Basically, I use a
bit of oil based to color deep pores that don't accept my
dark water based stains. I wouldn't use Miniwhacks again in
this lifetime. I HATE that stuff. It stinks and it can
cause problems with the finish. (I know; I know; I'm
preaching to the choir). I'll skip the "TIA"-- <g>
dave
I am more and more trying to get away form stains all together. But when I
use them, I prefer to use Bartleys Gel stains, Zar or General Finishes
stains. The Zar stains are a liquid but quite thick for a liquid stain.
Almost like a cheap latex paint as far as viscosity goes.
IIRC the stains that skim over also have a finish mixed in.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> thanks, Leon. the nearest Woodcraft is lamentably 48 miles
> north of me.
Ahhh. a mere hop, skip , and jump away. Might be worth the trip though.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> thanks! Do the General Finishes stains dry quickly and have
> typical oil-stain viscosity?
To tell you the truth, I do not recall. I can say that they do not seem to
dry as fast as the Bartely gel stains. The Bartley gel stains can be
lightly handeled usually within 20 minutes. Additionally I don't recall the
General Finishes stains taking any longer than other stains. If you have a
Woodcraft near by, they sell Bartleys and General Finishes.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> well...maybe...but gas is $2.15 a gallon. 16 mpg. 6
> gallons. $13 in gas! damn!
Yeah but for $13 you get the comfort of seeing all the brands of finishes
that they sell. And, all the other cool stuff.
Now, consider that when you consider wear and tear on the vehicle,
maintenance, and insurance, your vehicle costs you about 40 cents per mile
that you drive it. The government allows about 35 cents per mile and that
was when gas was 1/3 cheaper.