Well, after talking to tech support, I tried disconnecting the belt
from the arbor, and attached a blade, and spun it. A definite rattling
sound. Dang. And I just bought $300+ worth of upgrades for my old saw.
(Kreg Miter, DP FaskTrak, stops, etc.)
It's got a nice cast iron top w/wings, motor. Sniff. I'm gonna have to
dig a big hole.
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Bruce Barnett wrote:
>
> Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Bruce Barnett wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, after talking to tech support, I tried disconnecting the belt
> >> from the arbor, and attached a blade, and spun it. A definite rattling
> >> sound. ... I'm gonna have to dig a big hole.
> >
> > Why can't you just replace bearings?
>
> I asked if the bearing could be replaced. The tech support said the
> bearing is part of the arbor. They made a "lifetime supply" of this
> special part which ran out in mid-1980's.
Ok, thought it might be worth asking--sometimes you're stuck w/ a bad
design... :(
Bruce Barnett wrote:
>
> Jim Behning <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > http://media.ptg-online.com/media/dm/Parts%20Lists/20021115200000_CS4F.pdf
> >
> > I am confused. The parts diagram lists a bearing. You should be able
> > to remove the old bearing for a part number or to measure it and talk
> > to a bearing store. It is listed as a ball bearing so it should be
> > replaceable. Never mind, I see what you are talking about. I still
> > wonder if that can be fixed somehow. It could be fixed if you drive by
> > my basement and buy my Delta contractors saw.
>
> I haven't given up yet.
> Delta gave me phone numbers of independants that might have parts.
> I will also try to remove the arbor and see if some part can be replaced.
> But I'm preparing emotionally for the worst.
>
From the diagram I can't tell what would be totally unrepairable if it
is just a bearing failure...what part was it that Delta thought you
needed that is no longer available? Or were they going to sell the
whole armature assembly?
Might have to get some help pressing the bearing off the shaft but
assuming one could find an equivalent bearing (good/bad probability
depending on how old and unique it really was) I'd think it at least
possible as long as the shafts are still ok. At the point of rebuilding
the armature shaft the cost may become prohibitive...
[email protected] wrote:
>
> On 18 Feb 2005 01:58:10 GMT, Bruce Barnett
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> From the diagram I can't tell what would be totally unrepairable if it
> >> is just a bearing failure...what part was it that Delta thought you
> >> needed that is no longer available? Or were they going to sell the
> >> whole armature assembly?
> >
> >The Arbor and bearing is a single part number.
> >And I assume a single part.
> >I'm going to try to dissassemble it this weekend.
>
> I betcha if you take it to a machine shop they can press it apart in
> about 2 minutes.
That's what I was going to suggest after looking at the drawing again...
May need to take the motor bell housing as well as it appears the shaft
is pressed into it as well as near as I can tell...
Overall, looks like it should be easy enough as long as the bearings
aren't too exotic...but even there, undoubtedly the machine shop could
fix that if mandatory.
Bruce Barnett wrote:
>
> Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > May need to take the motor bell housing as well as it appears the shaft
> > is pressed into it as well as near as I can tell...
>
> I may have do. I wasn't able to remove it from the housing.
Not surprised...that's probably "the part" :(
What shape are the bearings in? If they're not turning on the shaft,
you should probably be ok.
Good luck, let us know how it comes out...
Bruce Barnett wrote:
...
> The old one was $200 used, and lasted 20 years with occasional use.
> It's been a good friend...
...
Before you actually put it down (unless, of course, it's the reason
you've been hoping for :) ), I'd at least get a machine/bearing shop to
evaluate it for what it would cost to press a new bearing.
On 18 Feb 2005 01:58:10 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> From the diagram I can't tell what would be totally unrepairable if it
>> is just a bearing failure...what part was it that Delta thought you
>> needed that is no longer available? Or were they going to sell the
>> whole armature assembly?
>
>The Arbor and bearing is a single part number.
>And I assume a single part.
>I'm going to try to dissassemble it this weekend.
I betcha if you take it to a machine shop they can press it apart in
about 2 minutes.
Bruce Barnett wrote:
>
> Well, after talking to tech support, I tried disconnecting the belt
> from the arbor, and attached a blade, and spun it. A definite rattling
> sound. Dang. And I just bought $300+ worth of upgrades for my old saw.
> (Kreg Miter, DP FaskTrak, stops, etc.)
>
>
> It's got a nice cast iron top w/wings, motor. Sniff. I'm gonna have to
> dig a big hole.
>
Hey an extra, nice flat top is always useful for glue ups. Perhaps it
could be converted into one of those homemade drum sanders others have
been posting about recently. Router table?
When life gives you lemons....
Rob
Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
> Bruce Barnett wrote:
>>
>> Well, after talking to tech support, I tried disconnecting the belt
>> from the arbor, and attached a blade, and spun it. A definite rattling
>> sound. ... I'm gonna have to dig a big hole.
>
> Why can't you just replace bearings?
I asked if the bearing could be replaced. The tech support said the
bearing is part of the arbor. They made a "lifetime supply" of this
special part which ran out in mid-1980's.
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Jim Behning <[email protected]> writes:
> http://media.ptg-online.com/media/dm/Parts%20Lists/20021115200000_CS4F.pdf
>
> I am confused. The parts diagram lists a bearing. You should be able
> to remove the old bearing for a part number or to measure it and talk
> to a bearing store. It is listed as a ball bearing so it should be
> replaceable. Never mind, I see what you are talking about. I still
> wonder if that can be fixed somehow. It could be fixed if you drive by
> my basement and buy my Delta contractors saw.
I haven't given up yet.
Delta gave me phone numbers of independants that might have parts.
I will also try to remove the arbor and see if some part can be replaced.
But I'm preparing emotionally for the worst.
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Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
> From the diagram I can't tell what would be totally unrepairable if it
> is just a bearing failure...what part was it that Delta thought you
> needed that is no longer available? Or were they going to sell the
> whole armature assembly?
The Arbor and bearing is a single part number.
And I assume a single part.
I'm going to try to dissassemble it this weekend.
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Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
> May need to take the motor bell housing as well as it appears the shaft
> is pressed into it as well as near as I can tell...
I may have do. I wasn't able to remove it from the housing.
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Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
> What shape are the bearings in? If they're not turning on the shaft,
> you should probably be ok.
When I turn them by hand with nothing on the arbor, they seem okay.
But when I attach a blade and turn them (disconnecting the belt) there
is a rattling noise.
When the motor is attached, and on, the noise is really loud and ragged.
It no longer whines. It growls.
Anyhow - I'm considering a new saw. Perhaps someone near Albany NY
wants the old Rockwell/Delta 34-300 for parts, or willing to try to
fix it. It has a nice cast iron table w/extensions, and the rip fence
has two clamps front and back. Best offer gets it at the end of the
week, and I will gladly accept "free and you haul it away" as a valid offer.
SWMBO says I can't have two table saws. While another glue-up surface
is nice, space is a big issue in the cellar of my 150-year-old
farmhouse.
The old one was $200 used, and lasted 20 years with occasional use.
It's been a good friend...
I have one story for the eulogy. We have a wet basement, and the sump
pump was working overtime on the spring thaw. At the time I have the
hose going out the window, but by contracting and expanding all the
time, the hose wore a hole, which leaked, and the basement was filling
up.
Well, I come downstairs to discover the inches of ice water. But the
worst part was the hose has twisted, and a stream of water was arching
in the air 6 feet. I slowly traced the arc of water with horror,
where - you guessed it - it landed right in the middle of the cast
iron surface of my table saw. The water has been hitting the surface
for hours. I said many many MANY bad words.
Anyhow - I stripped the table apart and cleaned it up real nice.
But that was years ago.
Dang. I lost a pet cat last month, and I had to put him down. And now
is time for the saw. Do they have Hallmark cards for putting down
power tools? They should.
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http://media.ptg-online.com/media/dm/Parts%20Lists/20021115200000_CS4F.pdf
I am confused. The parts diagram lists a bearing. You should be able
to remove the old bearing for a part number or to measure it and talk
to a bearing store. It is listed as a ball bearing so it should be
replaceable. Never mind, I see what you are talking about. I still
wonder if that can be fixed somehow. It could be fixed if you drive by
my basement and buy my Delta contractors saw.
Bruce Barnett <[email protected]> wrote:
>Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Bruce Barnett wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, after talking to tech support, I tried disconnecting the belt
>>> from the arbor, and attached a blade, and spun it. A definite rattling
>>> sound. ... I'm gonna have to dig a big hole.
>>
>> Why can't you just replace bearings?
>
>I asked if the bearing could be replaced. The tech support said the
>bearing is part of the arbor. They made a "lifetime supply" of this
>special part which ran out in mid-1980's.