JP

Jay Pique

07/12/2008 5:14 AM

Anyone else shooting blanks?

No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.

Meliora, baby.

JP


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Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 5:44 PM

Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in news:d3ac50cd-14e1-4246-8079-
[email protected]:

> No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
> couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
> more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
> fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
> know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
> stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
> staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
> came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
> Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
> in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
> situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
> without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
> doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.
>
> Meliora, baby.
>
> JP
>

My HF nailer occasionally shoots blanks, fully loaded. About that time I
add a bit of air tool oil, and try again. Sometimes I need to reseat the
nail cassette.

There is a difference between when the nail is actually shot and when
it's not. The gun kicks back ever so slightly, making a slightly
different noise and having a slightly different feel.

Puckdropper
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Doug Winterburn

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 8:09 PM

Jay Pique wrote:
> No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
> couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
> more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
> fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
> know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
> stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
> staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
> came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
> Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
> in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
> situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
> without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
> doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.
>
> Meliora, baby.
>
> JP

Been shooting blanks ever since the vasectomy in '76.

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 3:23 PM

On Dec 7, 1:28=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There is a difference between when the nail is actually shot and when
> > it's not. =A0The gun kicks back ever so slightly, making a slightly
> > different noise and having a slightly different feel.
>
> > Puckdropper
>
> I can feel the difference with a framer, but not with my little trimmer.

Yeah - some you can sort of feel it. The stapler in question is a
Senco SKS-L, and it's pretty beefy. I (obviously!) can't feel the
difference with it.

JP

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 7:36 PM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I can feel the difference with a framer, but not with my little trimmer.

I can't feel it with my FN-250B, but I can hear it if I'm paying attention.
It's a different sounding "thunk".

Of course, when the piece of wood I just nailed falls onto the floor, it
also occurs to me that the nailer might be out of nails. :)

md

mac davis

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

08/12/2008 9:16 AM

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:09:28 -0700, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Jay Pique wrote:
>> No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
>> couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
>> more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
>> fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
>> know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
>> stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
>> staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
>> came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
>> Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
>> in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
>> situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
>> without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
>> doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.
>>
>> Meliora, baby.
>>
>> JP
>
>Been shooting blanks ever since the vasectomy in '76.

I knew someone would say it, Doug, and should have picked your number in the
pool..
Great minds Do think alike!


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 12:02 PM

> No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
> couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
> more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
> fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
> know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
> stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
> staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
> came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
> Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
> in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
> situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
> without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
> doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.
>
> Meliora, baby.
>
> JP


My Stanley trim nailer does the same thing and it can be frustrating.
Seems like a very easy thing to design and implement, mechanically.

Makes me wonder if the newer model has it.


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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

07/12/2008 12:28 PM

> There is a difference between when the nail is actually shot and when
> it's not. The gun kicks back ever so slightly, making a slightly
> different noise and having a slightly different feel.
>
> Puckdropper


I can feel the difference with a framer, but not with my little trimmer.


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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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jn

"joe"

in reply to Jay Pique on 07/12/2008 5:14 AM

08/12/2008 2:38 AM

I sure wish my flooring stapler had it. if it runs out when i'm nailing
straighter than average boards, i could conceivably get more than a few
boards down without realizing that i'm out. Conceivably. Hypothetically.
Not that it's ever happened of course.

jc

"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d3ac50cd-14e1-4246-8079-f0145253c5eb@y18g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> No, it's not a personal problem. Well....it sort of is... On a
> couple of my nailer/staplers I've got dry-fire lockout, and on a few
> more I don't. Well I've now decided that all future pneumatic
> fastening devices will be equipped with it. It's not a huge deal, I
> know, but it's just one less thing to worry about. I was gluing and
> stapling a whole bunch of cleats this past week, and ran out of
> staples. I went to pull the section out of the jig, and the cleat
> came off in my hand. Unfortunately I had run out about 7 cleats ago.
> Now, I'd like to think that I'd get to a point where I was just soooo
> in the moment, all of the time, that I'd be fully aware of my staple
> situation (in addition to all the other "situations" which can come up
> without warning throughout this process called woodworking.) But I
> doubt it. And as such, I'm now a dedicated lock-out guy.
>
> Meliora, baby.
>
> JP


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