first attempt at NGR aniline dye, and this stuff is freekin horrible!
ok,,,now on to my question, lol
i sealed the grain using rocklers "wunderfill" thinned out a bit to
allow it to get into the pores of the grain..let it dry over night,
then sanded lightly to remove the overage.
lightly blew off the dust, and procedded to apply the NGR dye, always
keeping a "wet edge"...all went well till the surface dried
completely...
the wet dye in the pores "capilaried"(?) out and made some NASTY
blotches on the surface...where am i going wrong on this?
Traves
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:27:32 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>Yagotcher Instant Karma there, dude. To repent, do 10 Hail ROYs
>and use painted MDF for this project.
>
>
>
>-
>Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
> http://diversify.com
LOL,,,i kinda figured ya was gonna chime in sooner or later
Traves
Hi Traves, Try cutting back on the amount of stain you apply. And watch the
piece for 10 minutes or so to wipe any wicked material off before it dries into
blotches. JG
"Traves W. Coppock" wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:33:40 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> Crawled out of the
> shop and said. . .:
>
> >This effect is probably more a property of the wood than the dye.
> >
> >This happened to me once when I stained some maple. I periodically had to
> >wipe off the stain that was seeping (capillary?) out of the pores. A big
> >pain in the but.
> >
> >What is your wood?
> >
> >
>
> plain ol nuttin fancy red oak...plenty of pores. hehe
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 01:52:35 -0600, Traves W. Coppock
<newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> brought forth from the
murky depths:
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:27:32 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
>Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>snip
>>Yagotcher Instant Karma there, dude. To repent, do 10 Hail ROYs
>>and use painted MDF for this project.
>>-
>>Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
>> http://diversify.com
>LOL,,,i kinda figured ya was gonna chime in sooner or later
Is that an "Amen!" I hear, brother?
-
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
http://diversify.com
This effect is probably more a property of the wood than the dye.
This happened to me once when I stained some maple. I periodically had to
wipe off the stain that was seeping (capillary?) out of the pores. A big
pain in the but.
What is your wood?
"Traves W. Coppock" <newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> first attempt at NGR aniline dye, and this stuff is freekin horrible!
>
> ok,,,now on to my question, lol
>
> i sealed the grain using rocklers "wunderfill" thinned out a bit to
> allow it to get into the pores of the grain..let it dry over night,
> then sanded lightly to remove the overage.
> lightly blew off the dust, and procedded to apply the NGR dye, always
> keeping a "wet edge"...all went well till the surface dried
> completely...
> the wet dye in the pores "capilaried"(?) out and made some NASTY
> blotches on the surface...where am i going wrong on this?
>
> Traves
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:54:25 -0500, Greg G. Crawled out of the shop
and said. . .:
snip
>I use TransTint dye, it can be mixed with either water or alcohol.
>Using with a brush is problematic, the alcohol flashes off too quickly
>to get an even finish. I add solar-lux retarder to reduce this
>tendency, but it's still difficult to brush evenly. I would say that,
>in my experience, it is better to spray alcohol stains (!) than brush.
snip
>YMMV,
>(! = Fire Hazard!)
>
>
>Greg G.
LOL definitely wont be lighting up a smoke for a while in there
thanks for the tips all...now back to the shop
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:33:40 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> Crawled out of the
shop and said. . .:
>This effect is probably more a property of the wood than the dye.
>
>This happened to me once when I stained some maple. I periodically had to
>wipe off the stain that was seeping (capillary?) out of the pores. A big
>pain in the but.
>
>What is your wood?
>
>
plain ol nuttin fancy red oak...plenty of pores. hehe
Traves W. Coppock said:
>first attempt at NGR aniline dye, and this stuff is freekin horrible!
>
>ok,,,now on to my question, lol
Been there, done that! <g>
I use TransTint dye, it can be mixed with either water or alcohol.
Using with a brush is problematic, the alcohol flashes off too quickly
to get an even finish. I add solar-lux retarder to reduce this
tendency, but it's still difficult to brush evenly. I would say that,
in my experience, it is better to spray alcohol stains (!) than brush.
My first attempt at using this, even with retarder, was not entirely
satisfactory, but fortunately it was for a shop cabinet. When mixing
with water, you lose the anti-grain raising properties of the alcohol,
but it is FAR easier to brush the finish without leaving brush streaks
and blotches.
YMMV,
(! = Fire Hazard!)
Greg G.
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:10:59 -0600, Traves W. Coppock
<newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> brought forth from the
murky depths:
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:33:40 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> Crawled out of the
>shop and said. . .:
>
>>This effect is probably more a property of the wood than the dye.
>>
>>This happened to me once when I stained some maple. I periodically had to
>>wipe off the stain that was seeping (capillary?) out of the pores. A big
>>pain in the but.
>>
>>What is your wood?
>
>plain ol nuttin fancy red oak...plenty of pores. hehe
Why does everyone want to make one of the most nicely TEXTURED
woods in the world FLAT AND OTHER-COLORED? (And then whine
that it didn't work.)
Yagotcher Instant Karma there, dude. To repent, do 10 Hail ROYs
and use painted MDF for this project.
-
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
http://diversify.com
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:20:16 -0500, JGS <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>Hi Traves, Try cutting back on the amount of stain you apply. And watch the
>piece for 10 minutes or so to wipe any wicked material off before it dries into
>blotches. JG
>
this i will try, altho it being alcohol based, i would think 10
minutes might be too late?