Riser blocks or not?

>
> If at some point you do go for the riser, find an industrial tool supply
> place. They don't carry premade blades. Tell them what you want and they
> will make it while you wait. The places I go carry Sterrett or Doall. Both
> very high quality.

I would add that my 18" Jet uses a 133" blade which isn't commonly
available. I found a couple of industrial supply places that will
make the blades from blade stock. Some tooth patters are a little
cheaper than retail pre-mades. Usually 2-3 day service, sometimes
overnight.

RonB

On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:40:03 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like
>the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need
>to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they
>will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve.
>Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14”
>with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks.
>
>I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
>with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
>expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
>a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.
>
>Thoughts?
>Cheers

I'd recommend them.. shop around and you'll find a deal..
I put the grizzly riser kit on my Ridgid 14" and it works great..

Besides resawing, having that extra 6" also adds open area for light and
clearance for add-on tables and jigs..

I've cut hundreds of bowl blanks on it, mostly green wood, and no more flex than
without the lift..

Also remember that it's not just an iron block, it's also replacement blade
guards and the bar that your upper guides mount on..

See if you have a saw shop in your area... I have all my blades made up at the
shop, so it's no problem getting whatever size you want..
I think it's about a dollar more for 105" than 93" in our local shop..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Long time ago I bought it - It might have a number.
It has a sister saw that cuts metal.

If you get one, it sits on a metal stand and the table is about
right for me. I have a 1 HP motor on mine and keep the riser on
at all times.

http://www.cpowoodworking.com/band_saws/

Consider the optional pulley on the side for slower speeds or
lower surface speed.

I use mine to resaw but wish I had a 2" wide blade or at least 1"
for that function.

Bowls need narrower blades so they can turn.

Martin


[email protected] wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:01 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such.
>>
>> The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new
>> blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the
>> cut height. A massive machined bar is part of it.
>>
>> Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger
>> motor.
>>
>> No idea really on your cost. Just my saw.
>
> Thanks - which Delta?

On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:40:03 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

My first bandsaw was a new Grizzly sold it before I move and bought a near new
Delta. Both machine alignment were OK before I installed the raisers. After
installing the riser on the Grizzly, It's impossible to align the coplanar
parallel to the table with blade ridding on both tires' crown. Grizzly send me a
new raiser together the lower wheel. I cannot remember which wheels, top or
bottom I added shims to get the coplanar correct and parallel to the tablet. It
was never the same after I installed the raiser. The same happen to my next near
new Delta. Both Delta and Grizzly raisers were solidly manufacture, but the
Grizzly was more sloppy even with the dowel pin. For better fitting I had to
remove the excessive paint on either the top or bottom mating surfaces. On the
Delta, I added shims on the top wheel and later removed it, added shims on the
lower wheel to bring the wheel outward for alignment. I continue doing it every
time I start a new project or when I changed the saw blade, with spare shims
hanging on the Delta bandsaw. I have since sold the Delta ending my woodworking
pleasure. Given the choice again, I will buy another near new or new Delta made
in the good old USA!

>I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like
>the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need
>to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they
>will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve.
>Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14”
>with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks.
>
>I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
>with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
>expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
>a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.
>
>Thoughts?
>Cheers

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jim Weisgram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> [...snip...]
>>
>>>then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard
>>>93.5".
>> [...snip...]
>>
>> Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size
>> blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price.
>>
>> Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found
>> in local hardware stores.
>
> Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes,
> 105" blades no.
> This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw
> for any reasons
> which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched
> it for me. I have other
> tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; )
>
> Bill
>
>

If at some point you do go for the riser, find an industrial tool supply
place. They don't carry premade blades. Tell them what you want and they
will make it while you wait. The places I go carry Sterrett or Doall. Both
very high quality.

I have the riser block on my Jet 14". I got it when they were
offering some promotion, so it was like $99 or such. I can't see any
issues with it in place other than it's a bit harder to reach the
blade tensioning rod at the top. I just made a lever to slip over
the knob -- there are all kinds of nifty ways to set the tension these
days.

I order my blades -- BC Saw in Canada. Recommended by Michael
Fortune. I find his advice very practical and very simple. Here's a
link
http://www.furnituresociety.org/furn/docs/mfortuneBandsaw_Complete.pdf

Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such.

The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new
blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the
cut height. A massive machined bar is part of it.

Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger
motor.

No idea really on your cost. Just my saw.

Martin

Bill wrote:
> "Jim Weisgram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> [...snip...]
>>
>>> then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard
>>> 93.5".
>> [...snip...]
>>
>> Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size
>> blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price.
>>
>> Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found
>> in local hardware stores.
>
> Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes,
> 105" blades no.
> This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw
> for any reasons
> which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched
> it for me. I have other
> tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; )
>
> Bill
>
>

[...snip...]

>then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard
>93.5".
[...snip...]

Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size
blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price.

Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found
in local hardware stores.

On 2/3/2010 12:05 AM, Bill wrote:

>
> Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes,
> 105" blades no.

There's your answer then ... if you buy your band saw blades at Lowes,
you don't need a riser block. :)

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Feb 2, 3:40=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14=94 models like
> the Grizzly=92s, Jet=92s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need
> to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8=94 wide =96 so they
> will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve.
> Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14=94
> with 12=94 or so resaw and no riser blocks.
>
> I=92ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
> with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don=92t
> expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
> a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.
>
> Thoughts?
> Cheers

The riser block in my old 14" Delta/Milwaukee is a pretty substantial
chunk of cast iron. I can't imagine it flexing any.

If there is any flex, it would be in the arm itself. I don't believe
that raising the arm by 6" with a riser block would cause the arm to
flex any more.

I've cut everything up to 2" or thicker steel plate with that saw, and
flex has never been a problem. And you do dial in a lot of tension
when cutting that sort of thing.

Buy the riser block and be done with it. Don't even think of the
option of swapping it in only when you need the extra height.

John Martin

On Feb 3, 8:01=A0pm, "Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such.
>
> The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new
> blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the
> cut height. =A0A massive machined bar is part of it.
>
> Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger
> motor.
>
> No idea really on your cost. =A0Just my saw.

Thanks - which Delta?

On Feb 2, 11:40=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14=94 models like


I have the Jet 14" with a riser block, some roller guides, and some
great WoodSlicer blades from Highland Hardware. The saw will take
anything I throw at it without any flex that I am aware of.

Having said that I spent a fair amount of time tuning the settings.
Get yourself some books too: Duginske, Engler, and Bird have some
good tips.

Best of luck!

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:681c3a12-4474-4ccb-8a83-0d981e3d655f@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like
the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need
to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they
will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve.
Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14”
with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks.

I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.

Thoughts?
Cheers

Get the block, never look back.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2/2/2010 2:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I’ve read this& that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
>> with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
>> expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
>> a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.
>
> I have a Delta 14" with riser blocks. Wouldn't have it any other way. Got
> for it.

That's great if you need them. I looked the price up today--$149.99 (list
$199),
then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard
93.5".
I'm not sure how much sense it makes for a .5-.75 hp saw--but I'm no expert
either.

>
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> KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Jim Weisgram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [...snip...]
>
>>then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard
>>93.5".
> [...snip...]
>
> Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size
> blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price.
>
> Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found
> in local hardware stores.

Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes,
105" blades no.
This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw
for any reasons
which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched
it for me. I have other
tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; )

Bill

On 2/2/2010 2:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> I’ve read this& that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
> with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
> expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
> a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.

I have a Delta 14" with riser blocks. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Got for it.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:681c3a12-4474-4ccb-8a83-0d981e3d655f@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like
> the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need
> to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they
> will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve.
> Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14”
> with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks.
>
> I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws
> with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t
> expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have
> a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now.
>
> Thoughts?
> Cheers

I have a Grizzly G0555 with the riser. Absolutely no problems. I usually
order 105" Timberwolf blades but Sears carries a 105" cheapie if you're so
inclined. Olsen also makes a good 105".

Vic