tT

15/11/2004 11:04 AM

refurbishing damaged screw holes in redwood

I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
difficult given the tools available to me.

Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!

T Will


This topic has 6 replies

tT

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

16/11/2004 11:09 AM

Thanks for your suggestions. It will be a week or so before I get to
cracking on the project. I've looked it over some and think I'm going
to try relocating the holes where the worst damage was done, plug the
holes I don't use with dowels, and use wood filler for about half of
the remaining holes that have only minor damage. With countersinking
and plugging the screw heads (and the dowels that filled unused
holes), it should look pretty clean when finished. Maybe I'll get
another 30 years of service out of it. This older redwood is a pretty
incredible material. Sits out in the elements and takes it all in
stride.

Appreciate you taking time to pass along your ideas.

T Will

b

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

15/11/2004 5:52 PM

On 15 Nov 2004 11:04:49 -0800, [email protected] (T Will) wrote:

>I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
>rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
>time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
>cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
>but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
>the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
>hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
>difficult given the tools available to me.
>
>Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
>to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
>help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
>T Will


stainless steel threaded inserts.

ma

max

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

15/11/2004 7:42 PM

Try drilling a hole and inserting a hardwood dowel. The best holing power
would be to drill a hole through the edge of the bench and insert a dowel so
that the threads enter the grain at right angles instead of through the end
grain.
I would probably buy the brass inserts and thread them in and use machine
bolts.
I don't think you would get good results with filler.
max

> I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
> rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
> time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
> cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
> but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
> the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
> hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
> difficult given the tools available to me.
>
> Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
> to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
> help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> T Will

Pi

"Paul in MN"

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

15/11/2004 11:14 PM

If you do decide to go with the filler method, is there any way to make your
own filler with some glue and redwood sawdust from the bench? It would look
better than the standard "plastic wood" look possibly.

Just a thought.

P.

"max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDBE473F.33982%[email protected]...
> Try drilling a hole and inserting a hardwood dowel. The best holing power
> would be to drill a hole through the edge of the bench and insert a dowel
so
> that the threads enter the grain at right angles instead of through the
end
> grain.
> I would probably buy the brass inserts and thread them in and use machine
> bolts.
> I don't think you would get good results with filler.
> max
>
> > I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
> > rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
> > time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
> > cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
> > but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
> > the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
> > hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
> > difficult given the tools available to me.
> >
> > Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
> > to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
> > help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > T Will
>

Jm

"J"

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

15/11/2004 12:11 PM

How about just using bigger screws?
That would seem to be the easiest approach.

-j

"max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDBE473F.33982%[email protected]...
> Try drilling a hole and inserting a hardwood dowel. The best holing power
> would be to drill a hole through the edge of the bench and insert a dowel
so
> that the threads enter the grain at right angles instead of through the
end
> grain.
> I would probably buy the brass inserts and thread them in and use machine
> bolts.
> I don't think you would get good results with filler.
> max
>
> > I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
> > rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
> > time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
> > cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
> > but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
> > the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
> > hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
> > difficult given the tools available to me.
> >
> > Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
> > to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
> > help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > T Will
>

Jm

"J"

in reply to [email protected] (T Will) on 15/11/2004 11:04 AM

15/11/2004 4:53 PM

Considering the way that Redwood changes color as it ages, I'd hesitate to
use anything but redwood to repair the area where the holes are damaged.
Matching the color with something that won't change will certainly fail. Why
not chisel out a chunk and let in a trapezoidal block of redwood. Something
like this:

____
\__/
____ _____
____ \ /_____

-j

"Paul in MN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you do decide to go with the filler method, is there any way to make
your
> own filler with some glue and redwood sawdust from the bench? It would
look
> better than the standard "plastic wood" look possibly.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> P.
>
> "max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BDBE473F.33982%[email protected]...
> > Try drilling a hole and inserting a hardwood dowel. The best holing
power
> > would be to drill a hole through the edge of the bench and insert a
dowel
> so
> > that the threads enter the grain at right angles instead of through the
> end
> > grain.
> > I would probably buy the brass inserts and thread them in and use
machine
> > bolts.
> > I don't think you would get good results with filler.
> > max
> >
> > > I have a solid redwood bench that I made over 30 years ago which I'm
> > > rebuilding. I originally secured it with steel screws which, over
> > > time, corroded and destroyed the wood that surrounded them. She
> > > cleaned up well, and I know I'll be able to put it back in service,
> > > but have to decide the best way to do so. My first idea was to fill
> > > the holes with a sythetic wood, drill it out again and replace old
> > > hardware with SS screws. Dowels are another alternative, but more
> > > difficult given the tools available to me.
> > >
> > > Anyone care to offer some suggestions of the type of filler material
> > > to use? Any other tips that might be useful in the project? Your
> > > help and advise would be appreciated. Thanks!
> > >
> > > T Will
> >
>
>


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