Dear New User,
** Welcome to rec.woodworking, known locally as the wreck **
This is an informal group with users of all levels of knowledge, from those
who have yet to pick up a tool, professional woodworkers, authors of books
on woodworking, woodworking magazine editors, principals of tool companies,
and every level in between.
One of the traditions of Usenet Newsgroups (NG) that is encouraged, is the
tradition of "lurking", or hanging around for a while, taking in the local
culture before posting to the NG. While not mandatory, it is asked that you
just sit back and read the NG for a short time before your first posting.
This will allow you to become familiar with how things are done in this neck
of the woods, become familiar with the locals, etc.
This group is a collection of people with a common interest in woodworking
(ww'ing), and as such the topics discussed sometimes wander away from
strictly ww'ing. Think of this NG as if you were having a number of friends
over to your shop to discuss ww'ing, 90% of the discussion will revolve
around ww'ing, but you will also discuss other things going on in your life,
like your shop dog dying, gloating about the vintage minty fresh Unisaur you
just got for $100, just got a new job, etc. That is what we do in this NG.
Please DO NOT post off topic. If you *MUST* make an off topic post, please
preface the subject with "[OT]", so those who are not interested in OT posts
can skip them..
NOTE: I have recently been receiving a lot of flack from the cabal regarding
the preceding paragraph. Apparently, a few of them think I am encouraging OT
posts, I am not, I am simply providing a way of distinguishing them so those
who want to skip them can, or even put OT in their kill file if they wish.
If you find yourself being referred to as a "newbie", don't take offence; it
is not a derogatory term, but a statement of fact.
Sometimes some members of this NG can be a little harsh, take it in stride,
put on your Nomex underwear and fire back. The timid don't survive NG's for
very long. But be polite, this is one of the few NG's left on Usenet where
decorum is still the common practice rather than the exception.
One resource that is even greater than this NG is this NG's archives. Every
message posted here is stored on Deja.com (now http://groups.google.com/).
Many knowledgeable wreckers no longer post on topics asked every other day,
because of the repetitive nature. If you want the most in depth answer to
your question, check Deja, if you do not get all the information you
require, then post your question to the NG.
Another useful Search Engine is Usenet Replayer, http://usenet-replayer.com
.
** A note on Trolls **
People, when will you learn, *PLEASE* do not reply to the trolls, leave them
under their pitiful bridge to starve. And they will starve, and go away if
you stop feeding them with your replies.
** How to use Nfilter to filter out Trolls and other useless crap **
I have been using the wreck for years now, and I finally broke down and had
to start using filters due to a recent troll attack.
1. Download & install NewsProxy from http://www.nfilter.org/
Basic instructions are at http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html#2.2
2. Copy the "NewsProxy" shortcut from - C:\Program Files\NewsProxy\
To - C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\
[Modify this to suit your OS. I'm running win98SE.]
3. Start OE. Right click on your news folder (not rec.ww - you want the main
news folder) and select Properties. Select the Server tab. Copy
the information from the Server Name box. Enter "localhost" (without the
quote marks) in the Server Name box. Select the Advanced tab and
make sure that News(NNTP): is set to 119. Click OK.
4. In NewsProxy. Select Edit | Configuration | Network tab. In Server Name
or IP Number paste the information from Server Name you copied
in step 3. Click OK. Select Edit | Filters. Copy the following 15 lines
to the bottom of the file & be sure not to leave any blank lines.
rec.woodworking drop xref:*rec.pets*
rec.woodworking drop xref:*:*:*:*
rec.woodworking drop from:*puppy*
rec.woodworking drop from:*Al Kyder*
rec.woodworking drop from:*LoxFather*
rec.woodworking drop from:*bwa*ha*ha*
rec.woodworking drop from:*Jack the Breeder*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*fuck*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*cocksuck*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*sexy*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*kyder*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*sharpton*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*Happy*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*Ted Rumple*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*GreaseBall Italian*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*Spam Blocked*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*NEGRO*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*JEWISH*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*ASSHOLE*
rec.woodworking drop subject:*FUCKED*
**** Filtering with Extreme Prejudice ****
Things have got out of hand on the wreck with a few morons posting through
Google. As such, I have decided to remove all posts from Google.com. This is
an extreme measure and decide for yourself if you want to add the following
line to your Nfilter rules.
rec.woodworking drop message-id:.*@posting.google.com
You should be able to see from those examples how to add additional rules to
drop messages with certain words in the subject or from specific users. If
you have any questions, please reply to this message.
Save and close the file.
5. If you are running a firewall like ZoneAlarm you will need to enable
NewsProxy to function as a server.
I am working on some additional rules, if anyone has any to add, please let
me know.
A special thankyou to Art, AKA the Wood Butcher for his help installing
Nfilter, It works, go get it and install it now.
** A note about advice you receive here on the wreck **
While most of the advice you will receive here will be top notch, use common
sense, if something does not feel/sound safe don't do it. Just because
someone else does something one way does not mean that is the only or even
the correct way. Your safety is your responsibility.
** How to use the Google rec.woodworking archive search engine **
Click this link to do a power search,
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
You will be taken to a page where you can enter specifically what you are
looking for.
Into the blue shaded area you can be as specific or vague about what you are
looking for, with words to include and exclude from your search.
Be sure to enter "rec.woodworking" as the newsgroup you wish to search.
Some people say that if everyone were to use Google before they posted a
question, this NG would be dead. I totally disagree, all that would happen
is that many of the common repetitive posts would disappear and people would
get better advice. Many of the most knowledgeable people from this NG have
left due to the high noise to signal ratio.
**** NEW GOOGLE BETA FEATURE ****
Google now has a new image search engine, great for finding ideas on design!
Check it out,
http://images.google.com
** Answers to VERY common questions **
(my personal summations)
- Is Grizzly any good?
The consensus would seem to be that Grizzly is a little hit and miss. The
price is right, but the fit and finish will not be up to par with Jet and
Delta. Sometimes you will get a Lemon. Waiting over a month for delivery is
not uncommon.
- Where can I get plans?
See some links at the bottom of this message
- Where can I get plans for a router table?
See above.
- Jet vs. Delta?
At this time it seems that both are excellent products, with Jet having the
edge in value.
- What is SWMBO? (or DAMHIKT or BTDT or POS, etc.)
See link at bottom to full rec.woodworking FAQ.
- Should I buy a Craftsman power tool?
No.
- Should I use PVC pipe for compressed air lines?
http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html
- This newsgroup should be split.
A subject that has been beaten to death. The wreck will remain the way it
is. This NG has been pick choose for a while; simply skip over what does not
interest you.
- How do I stain Cherry?
You don't.
- What is the proper finish for a cutting board?
Mineral Oil.
- How do I protect cast iron tabletops from rust?
Plain 'ol Johnson's paste floor wax.
- Who or What are the Borg? (courtesy of John Moorhead)
Collectively, BORG is any of the big box home improvement centers that
resemble the BORG (short for cyborg - a melding of robot and human or other
species) "Cube" space vessels in "Star Trek the next generation" - they come
into town and assimilate (read: wipe out) the small, medium and sometimes
large local hardware/lumber/home improvement stores. Also specifically,
Home Depot as an acronym Big Orange Retail Giant. - You have been
assimilated. - Locutus
** Links to great woodworking reference sites **
- *** The Old Woodworking Machinery Website ***, Everything you wanted to
know about buying, restoring and using vintage woodworking machinery,
http://www.oldwwmachines.com/
- *** The full FAQ (frequently asked questions) for this newsgroup ***,
http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
- *** Dust Collection FAQ ***, everything you wanted to know about dust
collection, http://home.attbi.com/~dstig1/dustfaq_1.html
- Canadian lumber suppliers,
http://members.rogers.com/wsguthrie/suppliers.htm
- Steambending FAQ, http://www.wcha.org/tidbits/steamfaq.html
- *Free* Plans, http://absolutelyfreeplans.com
- *Loads of Free Plans and Links*,
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr/flip/www/plans.html
- WoodShop Demos, lots of ww'ing demos and info,
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
- Woodworker's Central, where you can find reviews of equipment, FREE plans
and much much more, http://www.woodworking.org/
- WoodBin Plan Finder, http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/planfinder.htm
- Internet Woodworking.com W5, Free plans, much reference material,
http://www.internetwoodworking.com/
- Plans Now, pay ww'ing plans, http://www.plansnow.com/index.html
- Free Woodworking Plans, http://www.freeplans.com/
- More Free Woodworking Plans, http://plans.the3house.com/
- Woodweb, lots of ww'ing industry info, http://www.woodweb.com/
- Woodworking.com, http://www.woodworking.com/
- The Oak Factory, general ww'ing info, http://theoak.com/
- Portal: The Woodworking Industry Internet Directory,
http://www.iswonline.com/index.shtml
- Old Tools Mailing List FAQ, info for collectors and users of old hand
tools, http://www.brendlers.net/oldtools/OTFAQ.htm
- The Electronic Neanderthal, traditional ww'ing info,
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~alf/en/frontpage.html
- Patrick's Blood and Gore, Everything you ever wanted to know about
Stanley hand plans, and much more,
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm
- Scary Sharp, find out what all the fuss is about, how to sharpen tools
with sandpaper, http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM#original
- Health Hazards of Wood, http://www.ubeaut.com.au/badwood.htm
- Bernie Hunt's Porter-Cable 557 plate joiner FAQ's,
http://www.huntfamily.com/pc557.cfm
** Links to Woodworking Magazines **
- Fine Woodworking, http://www.taunton.com/fw/
- Popular Woodworking, http://www.popularwoodworking.com/
- Wood Magazine, http://www.woodmagazine.com
- Woodworkers Journal, http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/
- Canadian Woodworking magazine, http://www.canadianwoodworking.com/
- Shop Notes Magazine, http://www.shopnotes.com/
- Woodsmith Magazine, http://www.woodsmith.com/
- Workbench Magazine, http://www.workbenchmagazine.com/
** Links to online retailers **
- Lee Valley, Great tools, http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
- Grizzly, http://www.grizzly.com
- Rockler, http://www.rockler.com
- Woodcraft, http://shop.woodcraft.com
- Garrett Wade, http://www.garrettwade.com
- Amazon, Tool Crib of the North, http://www.amazon.com/
- Jeff Jewit's Homestead Finishing, great finishing advice and finishing
products, http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
- Paddy O'deens (Patrick Olguin) Shellac.net, best Shellac on the net,
http://www.shellac.net/index.html
- Woodfinishes online, http://woodfinishingsupplies.com/
** Links to Woodworking Equipment manufacturers **
- General and General International, http://www.general.ca/
- Delta, http://www.deltawoodworking.com
- Jet USA, http://www.jettools.com/
- Jet Canada, http://www.jetequipment.com/
- Trademaster Canada, http://www.trademasterltd.com
- Toolex International, http://www.toolex.ca
- Performax Sanders, http://www.performaxproducts.com/
- Powermatic, http://www.powermatic.com/
- Wilke Machinery Company (Bridgewood), http://www.wilkemachinery.com
- Dewalt, http://www.dewalt.com/us/core/
- Porter Cable, http://www.porter-cable.com/
- Hitachi Power Tools,
http://www.hitachi.com/Apps/hitachicom/content.jsp?page=index.html&path=jsp/hitachi/consumerproducts/PowerTools/
- Makita, http://www.makita.com/
- Bosch, http://www.boschtools.com/
- Milwaukee, http://www.mil-electric-tool.com/
- Northfield Foundry & Machine Co., Serious Big Iron, in the old iron
tradition, http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com
- Forrest Saw Blades (makers of the famous WWII blade),
http://www.forrestsawblades.com/
- Lie-Nielsen (top of the line hand planes), http://www.lie-nielsen.com/
- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes, traditional wooden hand planes,
http://www.knight-toolworks.com/
- Leigh Dovetail Jig, best DT jig on the market, http://www.leighjigs.com
- The National Router Academy, http://www.nationalrouteracademy.com/
- Carter, the famous bandsaw guide company, http://www.carterproducts.com/
** Links to Woodworking shows on TV **
- New Yankee Workshop, http://www.newyankee.com/
- The Woodwright's Shop with Roy Underhill,
http://www.ibiblio.org/uncpress/woodwright/
- The American Woodshop with Scott Phillips,
http://www.americanwoodshop.org/resources/
- In the Workshop with John Silloats, (Canadian),
http://www.intheworkshop.com/
- The Router Workshop, http://www.routerworkshop.com/
** Related News Groups **
- alt.binaries.pictures.furniture
- alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
- rec.crafts.woodturning
- rec.crafts.carving
- alt.home.repair
Thanks,
David.
Every neighbourhood has one, in mine, I'm him.
Remove the "splinter" from my email address to email me.
Newbies, please read this newsgroups full FAQ.
rec.ww FAQ http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
Archives http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
crowbar FAQ http://www.klownhammer.org/crowbar
I recall a post from a few months ago, can't remember from who
or the subject line, about NewsProxy crashing. Seems that
nfilter.dat had some bad syntax in it. Misplaced colons, missing
or extra dots, stuff like that. Be aware that if you enable Regular
Expressions the syntax is different than that of the sample file.
Art
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, I got it to work for a very short time, but then I started to get
> errors, and even had NewsProxy crash out several times. I'm starting to
> think it is something to do with my ISP's DSL setup that just won't work
> with NewsProxy.
>
>
> "Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi Allyn,
> >
> > Does your ISP require you to log in? Mine does. Whenever I change the
> > server name to "localhost" in OE, it unsuccessfully connects to the
> server.
> > I also have the 1.2.0 release of NewsProxy, so that should be identical to
> > you. The instructions that David Eisan posted were pretty easy to follow,
> > so I'm really unsure what my specific issue is. If you can provide any
> more
> > detail about your OE and NP configurations, that would be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Allyn Vaughn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:49:05 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I've tried multiple times to get this Nfilter to work on my machine
> with
> > no
> > > >luck. I'm running XP home edition and have a LAN going through a
> Linksys
> > > >router with a 4-port switch. It does have a hardware firewall, but the
> > > >Nfilter instructions say that shouldn't matter. Maybe something with
> > > >dynamic IP addressing? Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else is running
> a
> > > >similar setup that might have some tips to give me. I'm getting pretty
> > sick
> > > >of the junk postings and need to filter them big time.
> > > >
> > > >TIA!
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > >
> > > I have the same setup and it works fine for me. I just put in the
> > > news server name and setup the host on my newsreader as "localhost"
> > > and it works fine. I did have problems the first time around until I
> > > got the earlier edition of news proxy. The later edition (the one
> > > marked as the patch file?) I could not get to work.
> > >
> > > Allyn
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Well, I got it to work for a very short time, but then I started to get
errors, and even had NewsProxy crash out several times. I'm starting to
think it is something to do with my ISP's DSL setup that just won't work
with NewsProxy.
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Allyn,
>
> Does your ISP require you to log in? Mine does. Whenever I change the
> server name to "localhost" in OE, it unsuccessfully connects to the
server.
> I also have the 1.2.0 release of NewsProxy, so that should be identical to
> you. The instructions that David Eisan posted were pretty easy to follow,
> so I'm really unsure what my specific issue is. If you can provide any
more
> detail about your OE and NP configurations, that would be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> "Allyn Vaughn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:49:05 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >I've tried multiple times to get this Nfilter to work on my machine
with
> no
> > >luck. I'm running XP home edition and have a LAN going through a
Linksys
> > >router with a 4-port switch. It does have a hardware firewall, but the
> > >Nfilter instructions say that shouldn't matter. Maybe something with
> > >dynamic IP addressing? Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else is running
a
> > >similar setup that might have some tips to give me. I'm getting pretty
> sick
> > >of the junk postings and need to filter them big time.
> > >
> > >TIA!
> > >
> > >Mike
> >
> > I have the same setup and it works fine for me. I just put in the
> > news server name and setup the host on my newsreader as "localhost"
> > and it works fine. I did have problems the first time around until I
> > got the earlier edition of news proxy. The later edition (the one
> > marked as the patch file?) I could not get to work.
> >
> > Allyn
> >
> >
>
>
I've tried multiple times to get this Nfilter to work on my machine with no
luck. I'm running XP home edition and have a LAN going through a Linksys
router with a 4-port switch. It does have a hardware firewall, but the
Nfilter instructions say that shouldn't matter. Maybe something with
dynamic IP addressing? Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else is running a
similar setup that might have some tips to give me. I'm getting pretty sick
of the junk postings and need to filter them big time.
TIA!
Mike
"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear New User,
>
> ** Welcome to rec.woodworking, known locally as the wreck **
>
> This is an informal group with users of all levels of knowledge, from
those
> who have yet to pick up a tool, professional woodworkers, authors of books
> on woodworking, woodworking magazine editors, principals of tool
companies,
> and every level in between.
>
> One of the traditions of Usenet Newsgroups (NG) that is encouraged, is the
> tradition of "lurking", or hanging around for a while, taking in the local
> culture before posting to the NG. While not mandatory, it is asked that
you
> just sit back and read the NG for a short time before your first posting.
> This will allow you to become familiar with how things are done in this
neck
> of the woods, become familiar with the locals, etc.
>
> This group is a collection of people with a common interest in woodworking
> (ww'ing), and as such the topics discussed sometimes wander away from
> strictly ww'ing. Think of this NG as if you were having a number of
friends
> over to your shop to discuss ww'ing, 90% of the discussion will revolve
> around ww'ing, but you will also discuss other things going on in your
life,
> like your shop dog dying, gloating about the vintage minty fresh Unisaur
you
> just got for $100, just got a new job, etc. That is what we do in this NG.
>
> Please DO NOT post off topic. If you *MUST* make an off topic post, please
> preface the subject with "[OT]", so those who are not interested in OT
posts
> can skip them..
>
> NOTE: I have recently been receiving a lot of flack from the cabal
regarding
> the preceding paragraph. Apparently, a few of them think I am encouraging
OT
> posts, I am not, I am simply providing a way of distinguishing them so
those
> who want to skip them can, or even put OT in their kill file if they wish.
>
> If you find yourself being referred to as a "newbie", don't take offence;
it
> is not a derogatory term, but a statement of fact.
>
> Sometimes some members of this NG can be a little harsh, take it in
stride,
> put on your Nomex underwear and fire back. The timid don't survive NG's
for
> very long. But be polite, this is one of the few NG's left on Usenet where
> decorum is still the common practice rather than the exception.
>
> One resource that is even greater than this NG is this NG's archives.
Every
> message posted here is stored on Deja.com (now http://groups.google.com/).
> Many knowledgeable wreckers no longer post on topics asked every other
day,
> because of the repetitive nature. If you want the most in depth answer to
> your question, check Deja, if you do not get all the information you
> require, then post your question to the NG.
>
> Another useful Search Engine is Usenet Replayer,
http://usenet-replayer.com
> .
>
> ** A note on Trolls **
>
> People, when will you learn, *PLEASE* do not reply to the trolls, leave
them
> under their pitiful bridge to starve. And they will starve, and go away if
> you stop feeding them with your replies.
>
> ** How to use Nfilter to filter out Trolls and other useless crap **
>
> I have been using the wreck for years now, and I finally broke down and
had
> to start using filters due to a recent troll attack.
>
>
> 1. Download & install NewsProxy from http://www.nfilter.org/
> Basic instructions are at http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html#2.2
>
> 2. Copy the "NewsProxy" shortcut from - C:\Program Files\NewsProxy\
> To - C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\
> [Modify this to suit your OS. I'm running win98SE.]
>
> 3. Start OE. Right click on your news folder (not rec.ww - you want the
main
> news folder) and select Properties. Select the Server tab. Copy
> the information from the Server Name box. Enter "localhost" (without the
> quote marks) in the Server Name box. Select the Advanced tab and
> make sure that News(NNTP): is set to 119. Click OK.
>
> 4. In NewsProxy. Select Edit | Configuration | Network tab. In Server
Name
> or IP Number paste the information from Server Name you copied
> in step 3. Click OK. Select Edit | Filters. Copy the following 15 lines
> to the bottom of the file & be sure not to leave any blank lines.
>
> rec.woodworking drop xref:*rec.pets*
> rec.woodworking drop xref:*:*:*:*
> rec.woodworking drop from:*puppy*
> rec.woodworking drop from:*Al Kyder*
> rec.woodworking drop from:*LoxFather*
> rec.woodworking drop from:*bwa*ha*ha*
> rec.woodworking drop from:*Jack the Breeder*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*fuck*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*cocksuck*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*sexy*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*kyder*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*sharpton*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*Happy*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*Ted Rumple*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*GreaseBall Italian*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*Spam Blocked*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*NEGRO*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*JEWISH*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*ASSHOLE*
> rec.woodworking drop subject:*FUCKED*
>
>
> **** Filtering with Extreme Prejudice ****
>
> Things have got out of hand on the wreck with a few morons posting through
> Google. As such, I have decided to remove all posts from Google.com. This
is
> an extreme measure and decide for yourself if you want to add the
following
> line to your Nfilter rules.
>
> rec.woodworking drop message-id:.*@posting.google.com
>
>
> You should be able to see from those examples how to add additional rules
to
> drop messages with certain words in the subject or from specific users. If
> you have any questions, please reply to this message.
>
> Save and close the file.
>
> 5. If you are running a firewall like ZoneAlarm you will need to enable
> NewsProxy to function as a server.
>
> I am working on some additional rules, if anyone has any to add, please
let
> me know.
>
> A special thankyou to Art, AKA the Wood Butcher for his help installing
> Nfilter, It works, go get it and install it now.
>
>
> ** A note about advice you receive here on the wreck **
>
> While most of the advice you will receive here will be top notch, use
common
> sense, if something does not feel/sound safe don't do it. Just because
> someone else does something one way does not mean that is the only or even
> the correct way. Your safety is your responsibility.
>
>
> ** How to use the Google rec.woodworking archive search engine **
>
> Click this link to do a power search,
>
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
>
> You will be taken to a page where you can enter specifically what you are
> looking for.
>
> Into the blue shaded area you can be as specific or vague about what you
are
> looking for, with words to include and exclude from your search.
>
> Be sure to enter "rec.woodworking" as the newsgroup you wish to search.
>
> Some people say that if everyone were to use Google before they posted a
> question, this NG would be dead. I totally disagree, all that would happen
> is that many of the common repetitive posts would disappear and people
would
> get better advice. Many of the most knowledgeable people from this NG have
> left due to the high noise to signal ratio.
>
>
> **** NEW GOOGLE BETA FEATURE ****
>
> Google now has a new image search engine, great for finding ideas on
design!
>
> Check it out,
>
> http://images.google.com
>
>
> ** Answers to VERY common questions **
> (my personal summations)
>
> - Is Grizzly any good?
> The consensus would seem to be that Grizzly is a little hit and miss. The
> price is right, but the fit and finish will not be up to par with Jet and
> Delta. Sometimes you will get a Lemon. Waiting over a month for delivery
is
> not uncommon.
>
> - Where can I get plans?
> See some links at the bottom of this message
>
> - Where can I get plans for a router table?
> See above.
>
> - Jet vs. Delta?
> At this time it seems that both are excellent products, with Jet having
the
> edge in value.
>
> - What is SWMBO? (or DAMHIKT or BTDT or POS, etc.)
> See link at bottom to full rec.woodworking FAQ.
>
> - Should I buy a Craftsman power tool?
> No.
>
> - Should I use PVC pipe for compressed air lines?
> http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19880520.html
>
> - This newsgroup should be split.
> A subject that has been beaten to death. The wreck will remain the way it
> is. This NG has been pick choose for a while; simply skip over what does
not
> interest you.
>
> - How do I stain Cherry?
> You don't.
>
> - What is the proper finish for a cutting board?
> Mineral Oil.
>
> - How do I protect cast iron tabletops from rust?
> Plain 'ol Johnson's paste floor wax.
>
> - Who or What are the Borg? (courtesy of John Moorhead)
> Collectively, BORG is any of the big box home improvement centers that
> resemble the BORG (short for cyborg - a melding of robot and human or
other
> species) "Cube" space vessels in "Star Trek the next generation" - they
come
> into town and assimilate (read: wipe out) the small, medium and sometimes
> large local hardware/lumber/home improvement stores. Also specifically,
> Home Depot as an acronym Big Orange Retail Giant. - You have been
> assimilated. - Locutus
>
>
> ** Links to great woodworking reference sites **
>
> - *** The Old Woodworking Machinery Website ***, Everything you wanted to
> know about buying, restoring and using vintage woodworking machinery,
> http://www.oldwwmachines.com/
> - *** The full FAQ (frequently asked questions) for this newsgroup ***,
> http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
> - *** Dust Collection FAQ ***, everything you wanted to know about dust
> collection, http://home.attbi.com/~dstig1/dustfaq_1.html
>
> - Canadian lumber suppliers,
> http://members.rogers.com/wsguthrie/suppliers.htm
> - Steambending FAQ, http://www.wcha.org/tidbits/steamfaq.html
> - *Free* Plans, http://absolutelyfreeplans.com
> - *Loads of Free Plans and Links*,
> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr/flip/www/plans.html
> - WoodShop Demos, lots of ww'ing demos and info,
> http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
> - Woodworker's Central, where you can find reviews of equipment, FREE
plans
> and much much more, http://www.woodworking.org/
> - WoodBin Plan Finder, http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/planfinder.htm
> - Internet Woodworking.com W5, Free plans, much reference material,
> http://www.internetwoodworking.com/
> - Plans Now, pay ww'ing plans, http://www.plansnow.com/index.html
> - Free Woodworking Plans, http://www.freeplans.com/
> - More Free Woodworking Plans, http://plans.the3house.com/
> - Woodweb, lots of ww'ing industry info, http://www.woodweb.com/
> - Woodworking.com, http://www.woodworking.com/
> - The Oak Factory, general ww'ing info, http://theoak.com/
> - Portal: The Woodworking Industry Internet Directory,
> http://www.iswonline.com/index.shtml
> - Old Tools Mailing List FAQ, info for collectors and users of old hand
> tools, http://www.brendlers.net/oldtools/OTFAQ.htm
> - The Electronic Neanderthal, traditional ww'ing info,
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~alf/en/frontpage.html
> - Patrick's Blood and Gore, Everything you ever wanted to know about
> Stanley hand plans, and much more,
> http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm
> - Scary Sharp, find out what all the fuss is about, how to sharpen tools
> with sandpaper, http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM#original
> - Health Hazards of Wood, http://www.ubeaut.com.au/badwood.htm
> - Bernie Hunt's Porter-Cable 557 plate joiner FAQ's,
> http://www.huntfamily.com/pc557.cfm
>
>
> ** Links to Woodworking Magazines **
>
> - Fine Woodworking, http://www.taunton.com/fw/
> - Popular Woodworking, http://www.popularwoodworking.com/
> - Wood Magazine, http://www.woodmagazine.com
> - Woodworkers Journal, http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/
> - Canadian Woodworking magazine, http://www.canadianwoodworking.com/
> - Shop Notes Magazine, http://www.shopnotes.com/
> - Woodsmith Magazine, http://www.woodsmith.com/
> - Workbench Magazine, http://www.workbenchmagazine.com/
>
>
> ** Links to online retailers **
>
> - Lee Valley, Great tools, http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
> - Grizzly, http://www.grizzly.com
> - Rockler, http://www.rockler.com
> - Woodcraft, http://shop.woodcraft.com
> - Garrett Wade, http://www.garrettwade.com
> - Amazon, Tool Crib of the North, http://www.amazon.com/
> - Jeff Jewit's Homestead Finishing, great finishing advice and finishing
> products, http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
> - Paddy O'deens (Patrick Olguin) Shellac.net, best Shellac on the net,
> http://www.shellac.net/index.html
> - Woodfinishes online, http://woodfinishingsupplies.com/
>
>
> ** Links to Woodworking Equipment manufacturers **
>
> - General and General International, http://www.general.ca/
> - Delta, http://www.deltawoodworking.com
> - Jet USA, http://www.jettools.com/
> - Jet Canada, http://www.jetequipment.com/
> - Trademaster Canada, http://www.trademasterltd.com
> - Toolex International, http://www.toolex.ca
> - Performax Sanders, http://www.performaxproducts.com/
> - Powermatic, http://www.powermatic.com/
> - Wilke Machinery Company (Bridgewood), http://www.wilkemachinery.com
> - Dewalt, http://www.dewalt.com/us/core/
> - Porter Cable, http://www.porter-cable.com/
> - Hitachi Power Tools,
>
http://www.hitachi.com/Apps/hitachicom/content.jsp?page=index.html&path=jsp/hitachi/consumerproducts/PowerTools/
> - Makita, http://www.makita.com/
> - Bosch, http://www.boschtools.com/
> - Milwaukee, http://www.mil-electric-tool.com/
> - Northfield Foundry & Machine Co., Serious Big Iron, in the old iron
> tradition, http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com
> - Forrest Saw Blades (makers of the famous WWII blade),
> http://www.forrestsawblades.com/
> - Lie-Nielsen (top of the line hand planes), http://www.lie-nielsen.com/
> - Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes, traditional wooden hand planes,
> http://www.knight-toolworks.com/
> - Leigh Dovetail Jig, best DT jig on the market, http://www.leighjigs.com
> - The National Router Academy, http://www.nationalrouteracademy.com/
> - Carter, the famous bandsaw guide company,
http://www.carterproducts.com/
>
> ** Links to Woodworking shows on TV **
>
> - New Yankee Workshop, http://www.newyankee.com/
> - The Woodwright's Shop with Roy Underhill,
> http://www.ibiblio.org/uncpress/woodwright/
> - The American Woodshop with Scott Phillips,
> http://www.americanwoodshop.org/resources/
> - In the Workshop with John Silloats, (Canadian),
> http://www.intheworkshop.com/
> - The Router Workshop, http://www.routerworkshop.com/
>
> ** Related News Groups **
>
> - alt.binaries.pictures.furniture
> - alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
> - rec.crafts.woodturning
> - rec.crafts.carving
> - alt.home.repair
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
> Every neighbourhood has one, in mine, I'm him.
>
> Remove the "splinter" from my email address to email me.
>
> Newbies, please read this newsgroups full FAQ.
>
> rec.ww FAQ http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
> Archives http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
> crowbar FAQ http://www.klownhammer.org/crowbar
>
>
Hi Allyn,
Does your ISP require you to log in? Mine does. Whenever I change the
server name to "localhost" in OE, it unsuccessfully connects to the server.
I also have the 1.2.0 release of NewsProxy, so that should be identical to
you. The instructions that David Eisan posted were pretty easy to follow,
so I'm really unsure what my specific issue is. If you can provide any more
detail about your OE and NP configurations, that would be great.
Thanks,
Mike
"Allyn Vaughn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:49:05 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I've tried multiple times to get this Nfilter to work on my machine with
no
> >luck. I'm running XP home edition and have a LAN going through a Linksys
> >router with a 4-port switch. It does have a hardware firewall, but the
> >Nfilter instructions say that shouldn't matter. Maybe something with
> >dynamic IP addressing? Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else is running a
> >similar setup that might have some tips to give me. I'm getting pretty
sick
> >of the junk postings and need to filter them big time.
> >
> >TIA!
> >
> >Mike
>
> I have the same setup and it works fine for me. I just put in the
> news server name and setup the host on my newsreader as "localhost"
> and it works fine. I did have problems the first time around until I
> got the earlier edition of news proxy. The later edition (the one
> marked as the patch file?) I could not get to work.
>
> Allyn
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, "Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi Allyn,
>
>Does your ISP require you to log in? Mine does.
Have you configured Nfilter with the correct IP address for the news server?
Then make sure that you haven't changed the login information in your news
reader. Nfilter passes that thru to the news server.
>Whenever I change the
>server name to "localhost" in OE, it unsuccessfully connects to the server.
>I also have the 1.2.0 release of NewsProxy, so that should be identical to
>you. The instructions that David Eisan posted were pretty easy to follow,
>so I'm really unsure what my specific issue is. If you can provide any more
>detail about your OE and NP configurations, that would be great.
>
Try using "127.0.0.1" instead of "localhost" (without the quote marks, in
either case). That really shouldn't make a difference, since the two are
synonymous, but ya never know... mine's set up with the numbers, and it works.
Of course, my configuration is very different from yours, so YMMV, but it
can't hurt to try.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:49:05 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I've tried multiple times to get this Nfilter to work on my machine with no
>luck. I'm running XP home edition and have a LAN going through a Linksys
>router with a 4-port switch. It does have a hardware firewall, but the
>Nfilter instructions say that shouldn't matter. Maybe something with
>dynamic IP addressing? Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else is running a
>similar setup that might have some tips to give me. I'm getting pretty sick
>of the junk postings and need to filter them big time.
>
>TIA!
>
>Mike
I have the same setup and it works fine for me. I just put in the
news server name and setup the host on my newsreader as "localhost"
and it works fine. I did have problems the first time around until I
got the earlier edition of news proxy. The later edition (the one
marked as the patch file?) I could not get to work.
Allyn
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:46:10 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, I got it to work for a very short time, but then I started to get
>errors, and even had NewsProxy crash out several times. I'm starting to
>think it is something to do with my ISP's DSL setup that just won't work
>with NewsProxy.
>
>
>"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi Allyn,
>>
>> Does your ISP require you to log in? Mine does. Whenever I change the
>> server name to "localhost" in OE, it unsuccessfully connects to the
>server.
>> I also have the 1.2.0 release of NewsProxy, so that should be identical to
>> you. The instructions that David Eisan posted were pretty easy to follow,
>> so I'm really unsure what my specific issue is. If you can provide any
>more
>> detail about your OE and NP configurations, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
My news server (earthlink) requires me to login each time. I have
this set up on my newreader (agent) to login in with name and password
each time and there seems to be no problem. When first set it up,
News Proxy kept having errors with the active tasks window (status
window), until I downloaded it again.
Hope it helps. I am finding it helps filter out a lot of crap before
agent filters have to start working!
good luck
Allyn