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Rob H.

12/12/2013 1:22 AM

What is it? Set 523

This week's set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl


Rob


This topic has 82 replies

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 7:31 PM


J Burns wrote:
>
> On 12/13/13 9:31 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
> ? On 12/13/2013 3:28 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> ????
> ???? Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
> ??
> ????
> ??? I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
> ??? loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
> ??? tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
> ??? wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
> ???
> ??? It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
> ??? should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
> ??? air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
> ???
> ??? I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
> ??? plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
> ???
> ??? Paul
> ??
> ?? Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to
> ?? the guy who
> ?? sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle
> ?? at the
> ?? bottom right on this page:
> ??
> ?? http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/
> ??
> ? The price on mine is $2.19!!
> ? Paul
>
> Beside my toilet sits a 39-ounce coffee can. If I sold my house and the
> new owner asked why the can was there, it would be wrong to tell him
> that when I brewed coffee, I scooped from the can by the toilet.
>
> The can holds a plunger, which people who bought toilets in the 1990s
> often need.
>
> If the house in question had existed in the 1950s, when people had
> little experience with antennas and just wanted VHF in black and white,
> a homeowner might well have run his antenna cable in at the basement and
> drilled a hole big enough for a tube because he saw it at Radio Shack.
>
> By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With 800
> cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even have
> installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would have
> made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the basement.


Did you ever stop to think it went into the basement, to come up
through the floor behind the TV in their living room? For a few dollars
more, it came up into the wall, and to a wall plate. Not all TVs were
along outside walls. The loss in 300 Ohm cable wasn't that bad. 75 Ohm
coax was a lot higher.


> The present owner asked not what the tube was but what the hole was for.
> The slits in the grommets look wider than TV cable. Deformation of
> the rubber could prove it was used for twin lead. If there's no
> deformation and the carport is attached to the house, it seems unlikely.
> If there's a 220V outlet in the basement, the homeowner may have had a
> compressor to power tools in the carport.


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"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 4:07 PM



"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I saw that. Kinda funny that they only needed ONE wrench for the
> whole wagon back then? Can you imagine calling something a Car Wrench
> nowadays ;-)
>
Well, it is a bit fun to compare times (and technology) of old to a modern
counterpart. But it does make sense. Back in the day, many parts were made
by the village blacksmith. And what manufacturers existed, I am sure there
was not a great variety in parts, fasteners, bolts, etc. It would not have
been smart to have a bunch of different size nuts (or bolts) on a wagon.

After all, where are bolts (and/or nuts) used on a wagon. Not being overly
familiar with wagon (or carriages) I would assume that the wheel and hitch
would be the only places where such a connector would have been needed.
This is not high tech. I mean, the highest tech thing on that wagon, was
the wheels. That is pretty low tech. I don't think that you need a full
socket set and a torque wrench for that.

So it does make sense. Having known a couple blacksmiths, I have a full
appreciation on how these guys at one time were the primary
engineers-problem solvers-tool makers in the community. They may not be
doing all that kind of work any more. But any blacksmith does have to be a
bit creative to do their job. And they were involved in making wagons, even
in just a supportive role.

Not bitching at you or anything. It IS interesting that it would be called
a wagon wrench. But that was a much simpler time. You did not need that
many tools to work on a wagon. Modern vehicles a a much different
situation. How much does a modern mechanic spend on tools? Particularly if
purchased from the professional suppliers.




wn

woodchucker

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 7:58 PM

On 12/15/2013 1:12 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>
>>
>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>> lime wall paint
>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>
>> Rob
>
> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
> lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
> the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
> into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>

Exactly.

All my electrical ,cable and phone come into the basement first.
Then run up to the attic for distribution in a single story house.

--
Jeff

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 7:55 PM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" [email protected]? fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> ? The loss in 300 Ohm cable wasn't that bad. 75 Ohm
> ? coax was a lot higher.
> ?
>
> Higher per foot, yes. But run twin-lead wrong, at it was almost as lossy
> as a dummy load. When we had a tough run, we'd do baluns on both ends
> (since no TVs had coax inputs). It was better than routing the 300-ohm
> stuff in bad places.
>
> And also... yes... there were a lot of folks who didn't want to come in
> through the eaves. If you could do it well, a basement entry was fine.


It was really difficult on two story or higher houses, and most of
the downtown area homes were two or three story over a crawl space or
basement. I bought a new Sadelco TV FSM in the '70s to be able to read
the levels. What we called, 'Hacks' or 'Butchers' rarely install a
lightning arrestor. The few that they did, either weren't grounded or
were connected to a gas pipe.

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have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

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Dr Nick

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 7:22 AM

Leon Fisk <[email protected]> writes:

> On 12 Dec 2013 12:43:49 -0800
> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Leon Fisk says...
>>>
>>>On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
>>>Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>>
>>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>Larger images:
>>>>
>>>>http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>>3051 Is a Wagon-Wrench or maybe better described as a Wagon Nut Wrench.
>>
>>
>>Correct, the patent calls it a wagon wrench.
>
> I saw that. Kinda funny that they only needed ONE wrench for the
> whole wagon back then? Can you imagine calling something a Car Wrench
> nowadays ;-)

The Fergusson Tractor was designed so that a single (double ended -
different sizes at each end) spanner would fit every nut and bolt.

It was also calibrated to be used as a dipstick:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/4CgAAMXQWzNSilsQ/$_35.JPG?set_id=8800005007

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 8:12 AM

On 12 Dec 2013 02:19:50 -0800, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
>basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are below.
>
>http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>
>"Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
>rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from the
>basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport on the
>other side of the wall.
>
>The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of under an
>inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and it
>sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an extra half
>inch from the wall.
>
>The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic, painted/yellowed
>over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in their
>removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>
>
>I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure if it has
>a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or installed
>later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the carport
>next to the port exit."
>
>
>Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?

TV antenna passageway for the old fat 300 ohm twinlead.


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>
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"Rick"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 9:26 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>
>>3053 The one I recognize is a razor blade sharpener.
>>
>
>
> Razor blade sharpener is correct.
>

Better known as the Rolls Razor...I have one...

pp

phorbin

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:11 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> 3050 Guess... A magnetic position transducer/sensor.
> I speculate that one of the two sets of terminals goes to a pair of
> opposed solenoids and the other pair goes to a central solenoid. As the
> stick moves the movable solenoid, the coupling between the pairs of
> terminals linearly changes with distance, measuring the position of the
> stick.
> I guess, it is also possible that this is a linear actuator rather than
> a sensor.

Your guess brought to mind a theremin.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:38 AM

> On 12/12/13 5:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of
>> their basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a
>> description are below.
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
...
>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?

Columbia, SC? I moved there for two years as a senior manager for the
Y2K project for SCDHEC. General construction practices there are just
short of "idiot during a particularly stupid spell".

Does your roof have those dumb "curl-over" drips at the eaves, where they
just let the sag of the shingles form a drip path, and with no metal
drip-edging or doubling at the edges, like all the other houses up on the
plateau? Did they slope all the concrete work toward the house, so the
footers would stay nice and moist? (keeps all that 800psi "Cawncreke"
from turning to dust)

It's likely a pee-hole for the owner, so he could pee INTO the crawl
space or basement while doing barbeque and drinking beer out in the
carport (while shouting, "Heey, Boyz! WATCH DIS!")


Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:58 PM

Paul Drahn <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l8dib0$tqi$1
@dont-email.me:

> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
> should be used only when absolutely necessary...

AH! I thought it was a "Palmetto Pee-hole". It's actually an "SC Sex
Aid"!

You'll get'm every time with that "grommet with the slit". They couldn't
possibly resist!

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:55 PM

"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> I see no terminals on the sliding round coil, so I will assume
> that the tap switch adjusts how many turns are shorted across.

Don... as is the case with pretty much any iron-core transformer,
shorting turns (in a low-impedance coil) has the same effect as shorting
the whole coil.

The contacts weren't intended to 'short coils', just to select taps.

I have no idea what it was originally for, but it's obviously a variable
inductor of some sort -- maybe for tuning LF, ELF, or ULF radio, or for
an experimentation bench.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 4:21 PM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Good answer Lloyd, radio tuner is correct.

HEH! Even a stopped clock is right twice a day! <G>

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 5:13 PM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> Beside my toilet sits a 39-ounce coffee can. If I sold my house and
> the new owner asked why the can was there, it would be wrong to tell
> him that when I brewed coffee, I scooped from the can by the toilet.
>
> The can holds a plunger, which people who bought toilets in the 1990s
> often need.
>
> If the house in question had existed in the 1950s, when people had
> little experience with antennas and just wanted VHF in black and
> white, a homeowner might well have run his antenna cable in at the
> basement and drilled a hole big enough for a tube because he saw it at
> Radio Shack.
>
> By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With
> 800 cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even
> have installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would
> have made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the
> basement.
>

You obviously know little of Columbia, SC. IF he lived dead in the city
limits, he might have had cable. If he lived more than eight miles
outside the city limits, he would have still have been on crossbar
telephone service, and likely not even KNOW that there was such a thing
as "cable TV". It wasn't until after 2001 that ordinary DSL got up to
Blythewood, and that's only ten miles north of the city. Winnsboro
(another ten north) was four years later. NOBODY in Winnsboro had cable
as recently as 2002; satellite, yes, but not cable.

Besides, in that area of the country, the 'qualified technicians' would
have routed twin-lead anywhere they could run it, including in steel
pipe, underground. It's as 'backwoods' as you can get. A significant
sign of intelligence for someone there is that you don't let the drool
run all the way off your chin before you wipe it off with your sleeve.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 6:39 PM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l8g86u$vpe$1@dont-
email.me:

> No
> homeowner within range would have run his twin lead through the
basement!
>

IF he ran it, and not one of the local "service men". We had a LOT of
"tube caddies" back then. Guys who carried a whole suitcase of tubes
they bought mail-order, and just swapped new for old until they found (or
didn't find) a problem. They couldn't actually _fix_ a TV if one latched
onto their ass. Almost none of those guys owned any real instruments,
and didn't have a clue that a CRT could often be "rejuvinated" for a
period of time.

And, they knew nothing about cable routing, standoffs, or how to use
baluns and co-ax (and yes, we had that stuff even in the days of
ubiquitous twin-lead).

I owned half of a TV repair business in the 1960s. We fixed a lot of
stuff the tube caddies left worse broke than when they found it.

So don't discount that running the twin-lead improperly couldn't have
been done with a "professional".

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 6:42 PM

"Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> The loss in 300 Ohm cable wasn't that bad. 75 Ohm
> coax was a lot higher.
>

Higher per foot, yes. But run twin-lead wrong, at it was almost as lossy
as a dummy load. When we had a tough run, we'd do baluns on both ends
(since no TVs had coax inputs). It was better than routing the 300-ohm
stuff in bad places.

And also... yes... there were a lot of folks who didn't want to come in
through the eaves. If you could do it well, a basement entry was fine.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 12:25 PM

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running
> twin lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places,
> but here in the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to
> bring all wiring into the basement and then distribute it to where it
> is needed.

Heh! This discussion started out (on my side), not by saying that
running twinlead in through a wall in the basement was wrong (because it
can be done correctly), but that in the Columbia greater area, technical
skills and craftsmanship are so bad that most any so-called
'professional' TV man in that area would inevitably done it badly.

I lived there for two years while heading up the Y2K hardware remediation
program for SCDHEC. It was hard to understand just HOW badly they were
willing to do a job, and call it 'right'. We had several senior people
quit during the project because they could not accept the standards we
imposed; a couple just as soon as they found out the three projects (and
three senior managers for: software, hardware, support systems) would be
"managed", rather than their just being allowed to 'wing it'.

BTW... we got the job done right and ahead of schedule, but it wasn't for
lack of some folks trying to submarine the project. The commissioner had
accepted that we'd finish on midnight 12/31/1999, and take the next two
months to 'clean up'. We finished the gross remediations in late
October, and got it all running up to snuff by 1/1/2000.

Lloyd

k

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 10:03 PM

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:50:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Rob H. wrote:
>>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>>
>>>
>>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>>> lime wall paint
>>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>>lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>>the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>>into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>
>Ayup. Same in the Midwest.
>
>Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.

It's a weather thing. If you have frost, the footings need to go down
below the frost line, anyway, so a basement is cheap space. Not so
much were there is little frost. The exception is hilly terrain. When
building on the side of a hill, might just as well build a basement.
Simple economics.

In Alabama, we only saw one house with a basement (wife nixed the
kitchen on that one). Here, only 79mi away, there are more hills so
basements are more common (though still not the norm). I got a
basement. ;-)

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

14/12/2013 12:30 PM

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 19:31:19 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>J Burns wrote:
>>
>> On 12/13/13 9:31 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
>> ? On 12/13/2013 3:28 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> ????
>> ???? Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>> ??
>> ????
>> ??? I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>> ??? loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>> ??? tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>> ??? wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>> ???
>> ??? It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>> ??? should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>> ??? air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>> ???
>> ??? I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>> ??? plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>> ???
>> ??? Paul
>> ??
>> ?? Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to
>> ?? the guy who
>> ?? sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle
>> ?? at the
>> ?? bottom right on this page:
>> ??
>> ?? http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/
>> ??
>> ? The price on mine is $2.19!!
>> ? Paul
>>
>> Beside my toilet sits a 39-ounce coffee can. If I sold my house and the
>> new owner asked why the can was there, it would be wrong to tell him
>> that when I brewed coffee, I scooped from the can by the toilet.
>>
>> The can holds a plunger, which people who bought toilets in the 1990s
>> often need.
>>
>> If the house in question had existed in the 1950s, when people had
>> little experience with antennas and just wanted VHF in black and white,
>> a homeowner might well have run his antenna cable in at the basement and
>> drilled a hole big enough for a tube because he saw it at Radio Shack.
>>
>> By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With 800
>> cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even have
>> installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would have
>> made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the basement.
>
>
> Did you ever stop to think it went into the basement, to come up
>through the floor behind the TV in their living room? For a few dollars
>more, it came up into the wall, and to a wall plate. Not all TVs were
>along outside walls. The loss in 300 Ohm cable wasn't that bad. 75 Ohm
>coax was a lot higher.

Truth! Ive lived in more than one home of that time period that had
300 ohm run all over the basement ceiling, upwards. Sometimes from a
splitter...other times...from a wire nutted splice.

>
>
>> The present owner asked not what the tube was but what the hole was for.
>> The slits in the grommets look wider than TV cable. Deformation of
>> the rubber could prove it was used for twin lead. If there's no
>> deformation and the carport is attached to the house, it seems unlikely.
>> If there's a 220V outlet in the basement, the homeowner may have had a
>> compressor to power tools in the carport.

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Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 8:59 AM

On 12/12/2013 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are below.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>
> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from the
> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport on the
> other side of the wall.
>
> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of under an
> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and it
> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an extra half
> inch from the wall.
>
> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic, painted/yellowed
> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in their
> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>
>
> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure if it has
> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or installed
> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the carport
> next to the port exit."
>
>
> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>
>


That looks like an entry for the flat two wire cable that ran from a
roof top antenna to the television The flat slit would accommodate
that type antenna wiring. The opening seals critters out.

MB

Mrs Bonk

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 11:06 AM

On 12/12/2013 09:22, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>
3053

My Dad had one of these.
Sometimes he would let me sharpen his razor with it.

Nn

"Nick"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:39 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
Another wild guess.
3050.
I think this might be a spooling drum for light (IE. not heavy) cable.
Possibly used for temporary telecomms (military unlikely), detonation of
charges in mines/quarries etc.
Back to the drawing board.
Nick.

GM

Gunther Mannigel

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 9:29 PM

Am 13.12.2013 02:30, schrieb DoN. Nichols:
> On 2013-12-12, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
> 3050) Some kind of adjustable transformer -- very early and
> experimental based on the kind of wire insulation used.
>
> Multiple taps on the round ended part which slides in and out to
> adjust the coupling.
>
> Also two multiple tap coils inside the box.
>
> I see no terminals on the sliding round coil, so I will assume
> that the tap switch adjusts how many turns are shorted across.
>
> The other two coils, then, would give varying impedances
> depending on where the moving coil is positioned. Likely
> intended to adjust the balance of AC between the two, perhaps as
> a position sensor.

The color of the winding reminds me of telephone wire, so i thought of a
pupin coil first. Then i thought of an antenna matching circuit.
I seems to be a part of a radio receiver:
<http://www.stonevintageradio.com/description.php?II=718&UID=20131213122302>

cheers
Gunther

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 10:28 PM

On 12/15/2013 10:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:50:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>>>> lime wall paint
>>>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>>>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>>>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>>>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>>> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>>> lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>>> the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>>> into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>>
>> Ayup. Same in the Midwest.
>>
>> Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.
>
> It's a weather thing. If you have frost, the footings need to go down
> below the frost line, anyway, so a basement is cheap space. Not so
> much were there is little frost. The exception is hilly terrain. When
> building on the side of a hill, might just as well build a basement.
> Simple economics.
>
> In Alabama, we only saw one house with a basement (wife nixed the
> kitchen on that one). Here, only 79mi away, there are more hills so
> basements are more common (though still not the norm). I got a
> basement. ;-)
>

There are still a lot of slabs here too. But yes the footings must go
below the frost line. I think it's valuable space that only costs once.
They really don't tax the basements here until you finish them.

I finished mine as it was really cold down here (56) and wanted to give
my kid a play area when he was young. He never really used it. So I took
it over eventually.

--
Jeff

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

14/12/2013 9:35 PM


Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Truth! I've lived in more than one home of that time period that had
> 300 ohm run all over the basement ceiling, upwards. Sometimes from a
> splitter...other times...from a wire nutted splice.


That was the preferred method where I lived, minus wire nutted
splices. Belden made the longest lasting twinlead, and Jersey Specialty
Company made the worst. That crap would crack in two years, when exposed
to UV light.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 8:14 AM

On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>
*.* "no clue"

Really great set, you totally stumped me on all
items. Well, at least I got the hydrant wrench,
last week.

--
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 4:00 PM

On 15 Dec 2013 09:42:03 -0800, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the "entertainment
>>center" was down there, so they aimed for the shortest route to the TV
>>from the antenna.
>
>
>The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet, lime wall
>paint
>and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there could have
>been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the previous owners so it
>looks like this one has been answered to the fullest extent possible for now.
>
>Rob

Ayup..there most certainly was a TV down there, along with a reel to
reel, a cassette tape deck, an am/fm tuner and a bong


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but it is great if your best friend does. That way you get all the benefits without any of the upkeep"

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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 2:19 AM

Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are below.

http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi

"Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from the
basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport on the
other side of the wall.

The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of under an
inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and it
sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an extra half
inch from the wall.

The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic, painted/yellowed
over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in their
removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.


I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure if it has
a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or installed
later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the carport
next to the port exit."


Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?






AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:03 AM

3053 The one I recognize is a razor blade sharpener.


On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:21 AM

3050 Guess... A magnetic position transducer/sensor.
I speculate that one of the two sets of terminals goes to a pair of
opposed solenoids and the other pair goes to a central solenoid. As the
stick moves the movable solenoid, the coupling between the pairs of
terminals linearly changes with distance, measuring the position of the
stick.
I guess, it is also possible that this is a linear actuator rather than
a sensor.


On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:27 AM

3051 Not a particularly helpful answer... This is a removable handle
for turning something. The central knob cams the jaws to grasp the
something. It would possibly be helpful if I had any idea of what the
something is.


On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:54 AM

On 12/12/13 5:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are below.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>
> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from the
> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport on the
> other side of the wall.
>
> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of under an
> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and it
> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an extra half
> inch from the wall.
>
> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic, painted/yellowed
> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in their
> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>
>
> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure if it has
> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or installed
> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the carport
> next to the port exit."
>
>
> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>
>
<http://www.instructables.com/id/Compressed-air-bulkhead-fitting-outside-wall-of-ho/?ALLSTEPS>

This guy put a compressed-air fitting on the side of the house. The
mystery hole looks like a better idea. Pry off the caps and slide a
line through when you need it.

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:03 AM

3049 I'll guess that this functions as a production fixture that is
used like a 4-jaw chuck. If there is a production run, and the whitish
thing is a workpiece, then the two screws with lock nuts are set up to
position the workpiece and the other two screws clamp it in a centered
position. Then some machining operation is done, well centered, on the
exposed face. I'm still at a loss for how the fixture is held in place.


On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

Dd

DanG

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:37 AM

On 12/12/2013 3:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>
3053 is the only one I know this week. It is a Rolfe (sp?) razor that
has the neatest self sharpening system going. when in the holder the
blade is flipped back and forth on the hone and strop.

--


___________________________________

Keep the whole world singing . . .
Dan G
remove the seven

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:47 AM

On 12/12/2013 4:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

#3049 Part of a "level sensor" mechanism--like from an airplane?
Bill

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 4:59 AM


>>
>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>
>>
><http://www.instructables.com/id/Compressed-air-bulkhead-fitting-outside-wall-of-
ho/?ALLSTEPS>
>
>This guy put a compressed-air fitting on the side of the house. The
>mystery hole looks like a better idea. Pry off the caps and slide a
>line through when you need it.


Sounds like a good use for it! Thanks

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:00 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3053 The one I recognize is a razor blade sharpener.
>


Razor blade sharpener is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:04 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3050 Guess... A magnetic position transducer/sensor.
>I speculate that one of the two sets of terminals goes to a pair of
>opposed solenoids and the other pair goes to a central solenoid. As the
>stick moves the movable solenoid, the coupling between the pairs of
>terminals linearly changes with distance, measuring the position of the
>stick.
>I guess, it is also possible that this is a linear actuator rather than
>a sensor.


Sounds feasible but I don't know what this one is so until we get a good
reference
it is still a mystery. Thanks for the guess.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:06 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
>3054: vinyl siding seam tool


This answer is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:09 AM


>
>#3049 Part of a "level sensor" mechanism--like from an airplane?
>Bill


This is another one that I don't have an answer for this week, not sure if your
guess is right or not, I did a search on airplane gyroscopes but didn't see a
similar device.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:12 AM


>3053 is the only one I know this week. It is a Rolfe (sp?) razor that
>has the neatest self sharpening system going. when in the holder the
>blade is flipped back and forth on the hone and strop.
>


This particular one is a Rolls Razor, not sure if there was one like it called
Rolfe.

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 8:59 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are
> below.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>
> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from
> the
> basement (not underground, I'm on the side of a hill) to the carport on
> the
> other side of the wall.
>
> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of
> under an
> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and
> it
> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an
> extra half
> inch from the wall.
>
> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic,
> painted/yellowed
> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in
> their
> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>
>
> I have no idea what this is for. I've never seen it before. Not sure if
> it has
> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or
> installed
> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the
> carport
> next to the port exit."
>
>
> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Delivery port for fuel oil. Probably for a furnace or boiler. Just a guess
from the description?

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 3:26 PM

On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>This week's set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>Larger images:
>
>http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
>Rob
>

3051 Is a Wagon-Wrench or maybe better described as a Wagon Nut Wrench.

--
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 3:01 PM


> On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
3049-Reminds me of what I'd expect to find at the bottom of a control
column for an old airplane, or similar. Of course, I was unable to
verify that I'm even close. -Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 3:21 PM

Bill wrote:
>
>> On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
>> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Larger images:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
> 3049-Reminds me of what I'd expect to find at the bottom of a control
> column for an old airplane, or similar. Of course, I was unable to
> verify that I'm even close. -Bill
To show that I'm flexible, 3049 may have some features in common with a
master-cylinder (for braking) too. There is something "hydraulic" about it.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 12:43 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Leon Fisk says...
>
>On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
>Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This week's set has been posted:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>Larger images:
>>
>>http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>>
>>
>>Rob
>>
>
>3051 Is a Wagon-Wrench or maybe better described as a Wagon Nut Wrench.


Correct, the patent calls it a wagon wrench.

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 4:51 PM

On 12 Dec 2013 12:43:49 -0800
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Leon Fisk says...
>>
>>On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800
>>Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>Larger images:
>>>
>>>http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>
>>3051 Is a Wagon-Wrench or maybe better described as a Wagon Nut Wrench.
>
>
>Correct, the patent calls it a wagon wrench.

I saw that. Kinda funny that they only needed ONE wrench for the
whole wagon back then? Can you imagine calling something a Car Wrench
nowadays ;-)

--
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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:19 PM


>> Correct, the patent calls it a wagon wrench.
>
> I saw that. Kinda funny that they only needed ONE wrench for the
> whole wagon back then? Can you imagine calling something a Car Wrench
> nowadays ;-)
>

Just to be picky, nowadays, for a car, there is only one tool needed or
useful to the typical owner... a cellphone to call a tow. And for some
cars, not even that is needed with cars that call for help by themselves.

I'll admit that sometimes a credit card is needed to scrape the ice off
the windshield.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:26 PM

On 12/12/13 9:59 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
>> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are
>> below.
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>>
>> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole
>> with
>> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall
>> from the
>> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport
>> on the
>> other side of the wall.
>>
>> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of
>> under an
>> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two,
>> and it
>> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an
>> extra half
>> inch from the wall.
>>
>> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic,
>> painted/yellowed
>> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in
>> their
>> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure
>> if it has
>> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or
>> installed
>> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in
>> the carport
>> next to the port exit."
>>
>>
>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>
>>
>
>
> That looks like an entry for the flat two wire cable that ran from a
> roof top antenna to the television The flat slit would accommodate
> that type antenna wiring. The opening seals critters out.
>
If I'd though of it, that would have been my guess. So I looked it up.
Flat cable was supposed to be kept away from metal, but apparently
masonry wasn't a problem. The usual method was to drill a hole, put the
cable through, and caulk.

Cable was supposed to have a drip loop at the entrance. If it were
designed for TV cable, I would expect it to deflect the cable down on
the exterior side.

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 3:54 PM

On 12/12/2013 2:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are below.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>
> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole with
> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall from the
> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport on the
> other side of the wall.
>
> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of under an
> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two, and it
> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an extra half
> inch from the wall.
>
> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic, painted/yellowed
> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in their
> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>
>
> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure if it has
> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or installed
> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in the carport
> next to the port exit."
>
>
> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."

It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".

I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
plastic parts are identical to the pictures.

Paul

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Paul Drahn on 12/12/2013 3:54 PM

16/12/2013 10:24 PM

On 12/16/2013 7:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:28:30 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/2013 10:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:50:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>>>>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>>>>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>>>>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>>>>>> lime wall paint
>>>>>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>>>>>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>>>>>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>>>>>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>>>>> lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>>>>> the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>>>>> into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>>>>
>>>> Ayup. Same in the Midwest.
>>>>
>>>> Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.
>>>
>>> It's a weather thing. If you have frost, the footings need to go down
>>> below the frost line, anyway, so a basement is cheap space. Not so
>>> much were there is little frost. The exception is hilly terrain. When
>>> building on the side of a hill, might just as well build a basement.
>>> Simple economics.
>>>
>>> In Alabama, we only saw one house with a basement (wife nixed the
>>> kitchen on that one). Here, only 79mi away, there are more hills so
>>> basements are more common (though still not the norm). I got a
>>> basement. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> There are still a lot of slabs here too. But yes the footings must go
>> below the frost line. I think it's valuable space that only costs once.
>> They really don't tax the basements here until you finish them.
>
> It is valuable space and it costs something like 20% of what above
> ground space costs. My in laws place was on a slab (E. Central IL)
> but it was a rarity, there.
>
> The tax deal is pretty typical. ...if you tell them. ;-)
>
>> I finished mine as it was really cold down here (56) and wanted to give
>> my kid a play area when he was young. He never really used it. So I took
>> it over eventually.
>
> I wanted the basement to myself. ;-) Well, there are only the two of
> us with 3600ft^2 above ground, so it's not like I have a lot of
> competition. ;-)
>
> I insulated it last year and plan to sheetrock most of the walls over
> the next couple of years but I'm not finishing the ceilings or the
> bathroom. The reason I wanted the basement is for shop space.
>
I hope you made the decision to insulate with spray foam. There are many
advantages over fiberglass.
If you are building a shop consider ply walls. My town did not allow
that. But the funny thing is you need to use ply to seal the wall every
ten feet. But they would not allow ply... they wanted rock..
Bizarre how ply was required to seal the wall, but wasn't fire resistant
enough for skinning.... Some code makes little sense.

--
Jeff

k

in reply to Paul Drahn on 12/12/2013 3:54 PM

16/12/2013 7:55 PM

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:28:30 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 12/15/2013 10:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:50:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>>>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>>>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>>>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>>>>> lime wall paint
>>>>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>>>>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>>>>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>>>>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>>>> lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>>>> the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>>>> into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>>>
>>> Ayup. Same in the Midwest.
>>>
>>> Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.
>>
>> It's a weather thing. If you have frost, the footings need to go down
>> below the frost line, anyway, so a basement is cheap space. Not so
>> much were there is little frost. The exception is hilly terrain. When
>> building on the side of a hill, might just as well build a basement.
>> Simple economics.
>>
>> In Alabama, we only saw one house with a basement (wife nixed the
>> kitchen on that one). Here, only 79mi away, there are more hills so
>> basements are more common (though still not the norm). I got a
>> basement. ;-)
>>
>
>There are still a lot of slabs here too. But yes the footings must go
>below the frost line. I think it's valuable space that only costs once.
>They really don't tax the basements here until you finish them.

It is valuable space and it costs something like 20% of what above
ground space costs. My in laws place was on a slab (E. Central IL)
but it was a rarity, there.

The tax deal is pretty typical. ...if you tell them. ;-)

>I finished mine as it was really cold down here (56) and wanted to give
>my kid a play area when he was young. He never really used it. So I took
>it over eventually.

I wanted the basement to myself. ;-) Well, there are only the two of
us with 3600ft^2 above ground, so it's not like I have a lot of
competition. ;-)

I insulated it last year and plan to sheetrock most of the walls over
the next couple of years but I'm not finishing the ceilings or the
bathroom. The reason I wanted the basement is for shop space.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:45 PM

On 12/12/13 6:54 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 2:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of their
>> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are
>> below.
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>>
>> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole
>> with
>> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall
>> from the
>> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport
>> on the
>> other side of the wall.
>>
>> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of
>> under an
>> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two,
>> and it
>> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an
>> extra half
>> inch from the wall.
>>
>> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic,
>> painted/yellowed
>> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in
>> their
>> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure
>> if it has
>> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or
>> installed
>> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in
>> the carport
>> next to the port exit."
>>
>>
>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
> loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
> tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
> wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>
> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
> should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
> air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>
> I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
> plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>
> Paul
>
I wondered what it was designed for. I'm curious about the exterior
side. It appears to have a couple of holes to screw something on.

If it were well designed, I would expect a downward elbow on the
exterior, to keep water out while allowing some air circulation.

The homeowner obviously bought the fitting at Radio Shack, but if the
carport roof abutted the house, it would be hard to bring an antenna
cable down to that point. The best entry point would have been under
the eaves, leaving the shortest possible length of flat cable exposed to
sun and rain.

A tube from the basement to the carport would be ideal if he had a
compressor in his basement and sometimes needed compressed air in his
carport.

Dd

DanG

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 6:45 PM

On 12/12/2013 7:12 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3053 is the only one I know this week. It is a Rolfe (sp?) razor that
>> has the neatest self sharpening system going. when in the holder the
>> blade is flipped back and forth on the hone and strop.
>>
>
>
> This particular one is a Rolls Razor, not sure if there was one like it called
> Rolfe.
>
memory and age. Yes, Rolls. At least I knew it started with an R.

--


___________________________________

Keep the whole world singing . . .
Dan G
remove the seven

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:30 PM

On 12/12/2013 4:45 PM, J Burns wrote:
> On 12/12/13 6:54 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
>> On 12/12/2013 2:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of
>>> their
>>> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are
>>> below.
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>>>
>>> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole
>>> with
>>> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall
>>> from the
>>> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport
>>> on the
>>> other side of the wall.
>>>
>>> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of
>>> under an
>>> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two,
>>> and it
>>> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an
>>> extra half
>>> inch from the wall.
>>>
>>> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic,
>>> painted/yellowed
>>> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in
>>> their
>>> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure
>>> if it has
>>> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or
>>> installed
>>> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in
>>> the carport
>>> next to the port exit."
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>> loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>> tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>> wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>>
>> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>> should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>> air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>>
>> I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>> plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>>
>> Paul
>>
> I wondered what it was designed for. I'm curious about the exterior
> side. It appears to have a couple of holes to screw something on.
>
> If it were well designed, I would expect a downward elbow on the
> exterior, to keep water out while allowing some air circulation.
>
> The homeowner obviously bought the fitting at Radio Shack, but if the
> carport roof abutted the house, it would be hard to bring an antenna
> cable down to that point. The best entry point would have been under the
> eaves, leaving the shortest possible length of flat cable exposed to sun
> and rain.
>
> A tube from the basement to the carport would be ideal if he had a
> compressor in his basement and sometimes needed compressed air in his
> carport.
>
Both ends have holes for screw mounting. The inside flange is
permanently attached to the clear plastic tube. The outside flange is
removable so the tube may be shortened. The flange also has two holes
for screws to fasten it to the wall. In addition, the removable flange
has a set screw to hold it firmly to the plastic tube.

In actual use, the TV twin lead would be controlled by screw-in
insulators and they would be set to keep the lead away from metal and
would be able to form a drip loop, if that was necessary.

The normal, brown, 300 ohm twin lead used polyethylene that was not
affected by sunlight.

Paul

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 5:33 PM

On 12/12/2013 1:07 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> I saw that. Kinda funny that they only needed ONE wrench for the
>> whole wagon back then? Can you imagine calling something a Car Wrench
>> nowadays ;-)
>>
> Well, it is a bit fun to compare times (and technology) of old to a
> modern counterpart. But it does make sense. Back in the day, many parts
> were made by the village blacksmith. And what manufacturers existed, I
> am sure there was not a great variety in parts, fasteners, bolts, etc.
> It would not have been smart to have a bunch of different size nuts (or
> bolts) on a wagon.
>
> After all, where are bolts (and/or nuts) used on a wagon. Not being
> overly familiar with wagon (or carriages) I would assume that the wheel
> and hitch would be the only places where such a connector would have
> been needed. This is not high tech. I mean, the highest tech thing on
> that wagon, was the wheels. That is pretty low tech. I don't think that
> you need a full socket set and a torque wrench for that.
>
> So it does make sense. Having known a couple blacksmiths, I have a full
> appreciation on how these guys at one time were the primary
> engineers-problem solvers-tool makers in the community. They may not be
> doing all that kind of work any more. But any blacksmith does have to be
> a bit creative to do their job. And they were involved in making wagons,
> even in just a supportive role.
>
> Not bitching at you or anything. It IS interesting that it would be
> called a wagon wrench. But that was a much simpler time. You did not
> need that many tools to work on a wagon. Modern vehicles a a much
> different situation. How much does a modern mechanic spend on tools?
> Particularly if purchased from the professional suppliers.
>
>
>
>
>
Wagons also had brakes on one or more wheel that were operated by a
lever. The pieces all needed to be adjusted from time-to-time.

Paul

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 7:33 PM

On 12/12/2013 1:22 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>
I think my wife could use #3054 to open the 5 gallon paint cans that I
have to open by hand, now.

Paul

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 3:00 AM

On 12/12/13 8:30 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 4:45 PM, J Burns wrote:
>> On 12/12/13 6:54 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2013 2:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> Someone would like to find out the purpose of a hole in the wall of
>>>> their
>>>> basement, inside and outside photos of it along with a description are
>>>> below.
>>>>
>>>> http://imgur.com/a/GgFzi
>>>>
>>>> "Brick house, built in the late sixties. Downstairs, there is a hole
>>>> with
>>>> rubber and plastic ports on either end that go clear through the wall
>>>> from the
>>>> basement (not underground, I’m on the side of a hill) to the carport
>>>> on the
>>>> other side of the wall.
>>>>
>>>> The thing is about 7 feed from the ground. The hole has a diameter of
>>>> under an
>>>> inch, the outer diameter of the plastic grommet things is about two,
>>>> and it
>>>> sticks out from the wall about one inch. The outside port extends an
>>>> extra half
>>>> inch from the wall.
>>>>
>>>> The inside and outside ports appear to be of a white plastic,
>>>> painted/yellowed
>>>> over time. They have darker rubber caps with a slot in them to aid in
>>>> their
>>>> removal via prying with a flathead screwdriver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what this is for. I’ve never seen it before. Not sure
>>>> if it has
>>>> a regional connection (Columbia, SC). Not sure if it was original or
>>>> installed
>>>> later. Possibly has something to do with a boat that was stored in
>>>> the carport
>>>> next to the port exit."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>>> loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>>> tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>>> wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>>>
>>> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>>> should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>>> air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>>>
>>> I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>>> plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>> I wondered what it was designed for. I'm curious about the exterior
>> side. It appears to have a couple of holes to screw something on.
>>
>> If it were well designed, I would expect a downward elbow on the
>> exterior, to keep water out while allowing some air circulation.
>>
>> The homeowner obviously bought the fitting at Radio Shack, but if the
>> carport roof abutted the house, it would be hard to bring an antenna
>> cable down to that point. The best entry point would have been under the
>> eaves, leaving the shortest possible length of flat cable exposed to sun
>> and rain.
>>
>> A tube from the basement to the carport would be ideal if he had a
>> compressor in his basement and sometimes needed compressed air in his
>> carport.
>>
> Both ends have holes for screw mounting. The inside flange is
> permanently attached to the clear plastic tube. The outside flange is
> removable so the tube may be shortened. The flange also has two holes
> for screws to fasten it to the wall. In addition, the removable flange
> has a set screw to hold it firmly to the plastic tube.
>
> In actual use, the TV twin lead would be controlled by screw-in
> insulators and they would be set to keep the lead away from metal and
> would be able to form a drip loop, if that was necessary.
>
> The normal, brown, 300 ohm twin lead used polyethylene that was not
> affected by sunlight.
>
> Paul


One could use an extra standoff to make a drip loop, but it would be
easier if Radio Shack designed the exterior flange with an elbow.

I've replaced the exterior twin lead on people's houses because the
polyethylene had deteriorated. Sunlight resistance seems to be
relative. A treated tarp will last far longer than an untreated one,
but the treated tarp will last a lot longer out of the sun.

My antennas used about 3 feet of twin lead, from the antenna to the
amplifier. If I had reception trouble, I'd probably have to replace the
twin lead. The rest was coax.

The instructions note that condensation even on the few inches of twin
lead in the tube could affect reception. Entering at the basement would
mean a lot more wet cable than entering under the eaves. If the TV was
not in the basement, it would also mean a greater length of cable, which
could cause noise and ghosts on UHF.

If the house was built in the 1960s with the carport adjacent to the
basement, I imagine the carport was attached to the house. In that
case, I wonder if it was even feasible to have an antenna cable enter
under the carport roof.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 3:28 AM


>>
>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?

>>
>I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>
>It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>
>I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>
>Paul

Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to the guy who
sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle at the
bottom right on this page:

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 6:31 AM

On 12/13/2013 3:28 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>
>>>
>> I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>> loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>> tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>> wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>>
>> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>> should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>> air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>>
>> I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>> plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>>
>> Paul
>
> Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to the guy who
> sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle at the
> bottom right on this page:
>
> http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/
>
The price on mine is $2.19!!
Paul

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 1:32 PM

>Don... as is the case with pretty much any iron-core transformer,
>shorting turns (in a low-impedance coil) has the same effect as shorting
>the whole coil.
>
>The contacts weren't intended to 'short coils', just to select taps.
>
>I have no idea what it was originally for, but it's obviously a variable
>inductor of some sort -- maybe for tuning LF, ELF, or ULF radio, or for
>an experimentation bench.
>
>Lloyd


Good answer Lloyd, radio tuner is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 1:39 PM


>The color of the winding reminds me of telephone wire, so i thought of a
>pupin coil first. Then i thought of an antenna matching circuit.
>I seems to be a part of a radio receiver:
><http://www.stonevintageradio.com/description.php?II=718&UID=20131213122302>
>
>cheers
>Gunther


Great job, that's a good link, I found one a little closer to mine on the same
site.

No luck yet on the first one but the rest have been answered correctly this
week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-523.html#answers

Someone offered to make a video of the wire stripper in action, I'll post a link
when I receive it.


Rob

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 2:06 PM


>Someone offered to make a video of the wire stripper in action, I'll post a link
>when I receive it.


Just updated the wire stripper answer with photos that show it in use, instead
of
a video.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-523.html#answers

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 5:51 PM

On 12/13/13 9:31 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
> On 12/13/2013 3:28 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on the purpose of this hole?
>>
>>>>
>>> I pulled the identical device, still in the original package, from my
>>> loft. It is a Radio Shack Archer Cat. No. 15-1200 Wall feed through
>>> tube. "Designed to provide a neat weather-proof entrance of all types of
>>> wire and cable through walls up to 13" (33cm) thick."
>>>
>>> It includes the rubber grommet with the slit. "Note. Rubber grommet
>>> should be used only when absolutely necessary in UHF installations. Some
>>> air circulation is desirable to prevent condensation.".
>>>
>>> I can take measurements and pictures, if necessary, but both external
>>> plastic parts are identical to the pictures.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to
>> the guy who
>> sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle
>> at the
>> bottom right on this page:
>>
>> http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/
>>
> The price on mine is $2.19!!
> Paul

Beside my toilet sits a 39-ounce coffee can. If I sold my house and the
new owner asked why the can was there, it would be wrong to tell him
that when I brewed coffee, I scooped from the can by the toilet.

The can holds a plunger, which people who bought toilets in the 1990s
often need.

If the house in question had existed in the 1950s, when people had
little experience with antennas and just wanted VHF in black and white,
a homeowner might well have run his antenna cable in at the basement and
drilled a hole big enough for a tube because he saw it at Radio Shack.

By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With 800
cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even have
installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would have
made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the basement.

The present owner asked not what the tube was but what the hole was for.
The slits in the grommets look wider than TV cable. Deformation of
the rubber could prove it was used for twin lead. If there's no
deformation and the carport is attached to the house, it seems unlikely.
If there's a 220V outlet in the basement, the homeowner may have had a
compressor to power tools in the carport.

k

in reply to J Burns on 13/12/2013 5:51 PM

17/12/2013 3:08 PM

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:24:58 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 12/16/2013 7:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:28:30 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/15/2013 10:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:50:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>>>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>>>>>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>>>>>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>>>>>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>>>>>>> lime wall paint
>>>>>>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>>>>>>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>>>>>>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>>>>>>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>>>>>> lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>>>>>> the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>>>>>> into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayup. Same in the Midwest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.
>>>>
>>>> It's a weather thing. If you have frost, the footings need to go down
>>>> below the frost line, anyway, so a basement is cheap space. Not so
>>>> much were there is little frost. The exception is hilly terrain. When
>>>> building on the side of a hill, might just as well build a basement.
>>>> Simple economics.
>>>>
>>>> In Alabama, we only saw one house with a basement (wife nixed the
>>>> kitchen on that one). Here, only 79mi away, there are more hills so
>>>> basements are more common (though still not the norm). I got a
>>>> basement. ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are still a lot of slabs here too. But yes the footings must go
>>> below the frost line. I think it's valuable space that only costs once.
>>> They really don't tax the basements here until you finish them.
>>
>> It is valuable space and it costs something like 20% of what above
>> ground space costs. My in laws place was on a slab (E. Central IL)
>> but it was a rarity, there.
>>
>> The tax deal is pretty typical. ...if you tell them. ;-)
>>
>>> I finished mine as it was really cold down here (56) and wanted to give
>>> my kid a play area when he was young. He never really used it. So I took
>>> it over eventually.
>>
>> I wanted the basement to myself. ;-) Well, there are only the two of
>> us with 3600ft^2 above ground, so it's not like I have a lot of
>> competition. ;-)
>>
>> I insulated it last year and plan to sheetrock most of the walls over
>> the next couple of years but I'm not finishing the ceilings or the
>> bathroom. The reason I wanted the basement is for shop space.
>>
>I hope you made the decision to insulate with spray foam. There are many
>advantages over fiberglass.

Nope. Fiberglass. There are many disadvantages to spray foam, too.
The primary one being cost. The next three being cost, too. ;-) It's
unheated space and it will likely remain unheated as long as I'm
there. It doesn't get cold enough, here, that I can't work in a
sweatshirt. Summers get hot but it's not usually that bad in the
basement. The part underground isn't insulated so tends to regulate
the temperature somewhat.

>If you are building a shop consider ply walls. My town did not allow
>that. But the funny thing is you need to use ply to seal the wall every
>ten feet. But they would not allow ply... they wanted rock..
>Bizarre how ply was required to seal the wall, but wasn't fire resistant
>enough for skinning.... Some code makes little sense.

I thought about plywood, after reading some suggestions here, but
decided against it for various reasons.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 3:32 PM

>Beside my toilet sits a 39-ounce coffee can. If I sold my house and the
>new owner asked why the can was there, it would be wrong to tell him
>that when I brewed coffee, I scooped from the can by the toilet.
>
>The can holds a plunger, which people who bought toilets in the 1990s
>often need.
>
>If the house in question had existed in the 1950s, when people had
>little experience with antennas and just wanted VHF in black and white,
>a homeowner might well have run his antenna cable in at the basement and
>drilled a hole big enough for a tube because he saw it at Radio Shack.
>
>By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With 800
>cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even have
>installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would have
>made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the basement.
>
>The present owner asked not what the tube was but what the hole was for.
> The slits in the grommets look wider than TV cable. Deformation of
>the rubber could prove it was used for twin lead. If there's no
>deformation and the carport is attached to the house, it seems unlikely.
> If there's a 220V outlet in the basement, the homeowner may have had a
>compressor to power tools in the carport.


I forwarded the compressor theory on to the house owner, haven't heard back from
him yet concerning his thoughts about it being used for either an antenna cable
or compressor hose. I guess the only way to really know how it was used would be
for him contact the former owner.

Rob

JW

"Jim Wilkins"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 7:09 PM

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Besides, in that area of the country, the 'qualified technicians'
> would
> have routed twin-lead anywhere they could run it, including in steel
> pipe, underground. It's as 'backwoods' as you can get. A
> significant
> sign of intelligence for someone there is that you don't let the
> drool
> run all the way off your chin before you wipe it off with your
> sleeve.
>
> Lloyd

Ah kin feature thet.


JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 7:19 PM

On 12/13/13 7:09 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Besides, in that area of the country, the 'qualified technicians'
>> would
>> have routed twin-lead anywhere they could run it, including in steel
>> pipe, underground. It's as 'backwoods' as you can get. A
>> significant
>> sign of intelligence for someone there is that you don't let the
>> drool
>> run all the way off your chin before you wipe it off with your
>> sleeve.
>>
>> Lloyd
>
> Ah kin feature thet.
>
>
>
What about WNOK-TV? Art Linkletter's House Party, the Arthur Godfrey
Show, the Red Skelton Show, I Love Lucy, live broadcasts of services at
First Baptist Church, live broadcasts of the Columbia Reds. They
broadcast from the Jefferson Hotel on 67, then changed to 19. No
homeowner within range would have run his twin lead through the basement!

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 9:11 PM

On 12/13/13 7:31 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> J Burns wrote:
>>

>> By the 1960s, people who put up antennas wanted UHF and color. With 800
>> cable companies in operation, a Columbia resident might not even have
>> installed an antenna. If he did, it's hard to believe he would have
>> made the mistake of running his twin lead to his TV by way of the basement.
>
>
> Did you ever stop to think it went into the basement, to come up
> through the floor behind the TV in their living room? For a few dollars
> more, it came up into the wall, and to a wall plate. Not all TVs were
> along outside walls. The loss in 300 Ohm cable wasn't that bad. 75 Ohm
> coax was a lot higher.
>
>
My grandfather did it that way in the 1950s. There came a day when they
were better off with rabbit ears.

I followed the same route when I put up a UHF antenna in 1982. Using
coax, all I lost was perhaps 0.3db from the extra length. If I'd been
using twin lead, I would have come across the attic to save about 14
feet of exposure to outdoor moisture.

In view of recent revelations of Columbia's provincialism, you could be
right. I live so far from Columbia that I can't get either WLTX or WIS
on my indoor antenna. The last time I went there, my hand was puffed up
from experimenting with gunpowder. I had to shake a lot of hands that day.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 9:42 AM


> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the "entertainment
>center" was down there, so they aimed for the shortest route to the TV
>from the antenna.


The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet, lime wall
paint
and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there could have
been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the previous owners so it
looks like this one has been answered to the fullest extent possible for now.

Rob

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 1:12 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>
>
> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
> lime wall paint
> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
> fullest extent possible for now.
>
> Rob

I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.

--

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JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 3:23 PM

On 12/15/13 12:42 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the "entertainment
>> center" was down there, so they aimed for the shortest route to the TV
>>from the antenna.
>
>
> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet, lime wall
> paint
> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there could have
> been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the previous owners so it
> looks like this one has been answered to the fullest extent possible for now.
>
> Rob
>
Ah, a rec room! Well, nobody would keep a compressor in a rec room!

Grandmother left Columbia in 1916 to escape their corrupted English.
That's also why the Puritans came to America in 1620. At the time, the
English used their basements for cesspits. When they began living down
there, they continued to call them basements. Along came public
television, presenting the decayed language of the UK as the model of
propriety.

jm

j

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

17/12/2013 10:19 PM

On 12/12/2013 8:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> 3054: vinyl siding seam tool
>
>
> This answer is correct.
>
I'm late to the show,and it is the only time I knew 2 of them.This,as I
had to buy one once, and 3050.

As for 3050, early radios did not use variable capacitors, everything
was done with inductors.

Jeff

Mm

Markem

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 9:14 AM

On 12 Dec 2013 01:22:05 -0800, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:

>This week's set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>Larger images:
>
>http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
>Rob


3053

sharping stones

3054

vinyl siding tool

mark

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 4:50 PM

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:12:40 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Rob H. wrote:
>>> What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
>>> furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the
>>> "entertainment center" was down there, so they aimed for the
>>> shortest route to the TV from the antenna.
>>
>>
>> The owner's description of the basement: "neon orange shag carpet,
>> lime wall paint
>> and black trim that was the original basement decor" suggests there
>> could have been a TV down there. He is not in contact with any of the
>> previous owners so it looks like this one has been answered to the
>> fullest extent possible for now.
>>
>> Rob
>
>I find it hard to believe there is so much discussion about running twin
>lead in a basement. Maybe it's different in different places, but here in
>the NE where basements are the norm, it's very common to bring all wiring
>into the basement and then distribute it to where it is needed.

Ayup. Same in the Midwest.

Out here in California..basements are nearly unheard of.


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"Rick"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 9:27 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl
>
>
> Rob
>

3054, vinyl siding removal tool

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 1:30 AM

On 2013-12-12, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/uU6tl

Posting from the newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

3049) Interesting. Two of the four (two at 90 degrees from each
other) have locknuts, and thus are expected to be kept at one
particular setting for a while, while the other two are expected
to be more frequently changed.

Looks like a sphere being held, and perhaps 2-1/4" diameter at a
guess. Is that a billiard ball?

But it sort of looks like it is designed to stress test the
ball, or to totally break it, likely using the larger pair of
cups once the smaller pair of push pads are holding it in place.

3050) Some kind of adjustable transformer -- very early and
experimental based on the kind of wire insulation used.

Multiple taps on the round ended part which slides in and out to
adjust the coupling.

Also two multiple tap coils inside the box.

I see no terminals on the sliding round coil, so I will assume
that the tap switch adjusts how many turns are shorted across.

The other two coils, then, would give varying impedances
depending on where the moving coil is positioned. Likely
intended to adjust the balance of AC between the two, perhaps as
a position sensor.

3051) Clamps onto something square (by turning the two handles), and
serves as a bench-top holder for the object.

Is there a thread on the horizontal handle shafts, or is the
entire grip from the angled plates.

3052) Strange pliers. Almost looks as though it is to crimp lead
seals on things like power meters.

3053) Now, *this* one I *know*. (Just the first photo is sufficient).

It is a "Rolls Razor", and this one is missing an important
part.

The cover to the left is a honing stone, and the one to the
right is a leather strop covered with jeweler's rouge. The two
are keyed so each fits only into one side of the housing.

The part standing up in the center is the razor blade, with a
guard which flips back and forth.

The handle to the right is slid back and forth causing the blade
to rotate so it either moves edge-first on the hone side, or
edge last on the strop side.

You would strop it before every shaving (just a few strokes),
and hone it only every so often.

The one thing missing is the razor handle. which normally lives
nestled inside the strop/hone handle, but in normal use slides
over the back edge of the blade and clamps down by screwing the
handle.

All in all -- a very nice long lived device for shaving, if you
shave. I used one for years before I switched to a beard and
saved minutes of each morning. :-)

3054) It looks like a clip-on handle for some kind of cookware.

Is that red a soft plastic dip, or a hard enamel coating?

But I would like to see what it clips to, since it does not look
that secure. Perhaps if it was one of two it could be used to
lift something in a symmetrical way.

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 1:47 AM

On 2013-12-12, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>
>>3053 The one I recognize is a razor blade sharpener.
>>
>
>
> Razor blade sharpener is correct.

Not just *any* razor blade, nor even a single-edged razor blade.
It has its own custom blade (shown in it, but not close up), which is
essentially like a section from a straight razor blade, with a socket in
the center of the back edge to bayonet onto a spike sticking out of the
cross-bar. The blade is a desigend in part of the system, not
something from the drugstore. :-)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls_Razor>

The upper view in the second photo includes the blade handle
(stuffed in the stropping handle) which appears to be missing from the
one shown in the puzzle.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

13/12/2013 1:49 AM

On 2013-12-12, phorbin <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> 3050 Guess... A magnetic position transducer/sensor.
>> I speculate that one of the two sets of terminals goes to a pair of
>> opposed solenoids and the other pair goes to a central solenoid. As the
>> stick moves the movable solenoid, the coupling between the pairs of
>> terminals linearly changes with distance, measuring the position of the
>> stick.
>> I guess, it is also possible that this is a linear actuator rather than
>> a sensor.
>
> Your guess brought to mind a theremin.

Except that the theremin used capacitive coupling, not the
inductive coupling which this uses.

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 3:30 AM

On 2013-12-13, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The color of the winding reminds me of telephone wire, so i thought of a
>>pupin coil first. Then i thought of an antenna matching circuit.
>>I seems to be a part of a radio receiver:
>><http://www.stonevintageradio.com/description.php?II=718&UID=20131213122302>
>>
>>cheers
>>Gunther

I've seen similar wire used in really old radio receivers,
(wrapped thread around the conductor) -- and perhaps in the windings of
electric bells or buzzers.

And I've seen the same color of wire (but a woven sleeve soaked
with wax and slid over tinned copper single-strand wires) used in
inter-relay wiring on Automatic Electric "Strowger" switches (part of a
dial telephone exchange)

>
> Great job, that's a good link, I found one a little closer to mine on the same
> site.
>
> No luck yet on the first one but the rest have been answered correctly this
> week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-523.html#answers

I see that the shaving handle for the Rolls Razor is not
actually missing, it was just not photographed in the first set of
photos -- or you photoshopped it out for whatever reason. But I see it
standing between the hone and the strop plates in the answers section.

As for the first one, I just noticed today that it appears to be
a zinc (or pot-metal) casting, so I would not expect it to be
particularly strong if it was being used as a fixture for something like
cross-drilling the ball.

Maybe for holding it in the beam of an X-ray diffraction system
used for studying structures of crystals. (I don't know what kind of
material the ball would be --it would have to be something which did not
contribute its own diffraction patterns to the photograph.

> Someone offered to make a video of the wire stripper in action, I'll post a link
> when I receive it.

That looks like a nice wire stripper for some types of wire, at
least.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 3:42 AM

On 2013-12-13, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:

[ ... ]

> Thanks! Sounds like this is probably correct, I'll pass it along to the guy who
> sent the photos. I found an ad that shows the tube, it's in the middle at the
> bottom right on this page:
>
> http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth309267/m1/7/med_res/

If you want to see it a bit sharper, or are curious to read the
newspaper articles, replace the "/med_res/" at the end of the URL with
"/high_res/" (I first tried "/hi_res/" but that failed. :-)

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

15/12/2013 4:00 AM

On 2013-12-14, J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/13/13 7:09 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Besides, in that area of the country, the 'qualified technicians'
>>> would
>>> have routed twin-lead anywhere they could run it, including in steel
>>> pipe, underground. It's as 'backwoods' as you can get. A

[ ... ]

> What about WNOK-TV? Art Linkletter's House Party, the Arthur Godfrey
> Show, the Red Skelton Show, I Love Lucy, live broadcasts of services at
> First Baptist Church, live broadcasts of the Columbia Reds. They
> broadcast from the Jefferson Hotel on 67, then changed to 19. No
> homeowner within range would have run his twin lead through the basement!

What about someone who was *living* in the basement? Is it a
furnished basement, or rough? If furnished, perhaps the "entertainment
center" was down there, so they aimed for the shortest route to the TV
from the antenna.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 12/12/2013 1:22 AM

12/12/2013 2:35 PM

Rob H. <[email protected]> writes:
>This week's set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

3052: Looks like a telephone installers tool for crimping the
small circular connectors used when splicing POTS lines.


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