Jb

"James"

28/09/2015 9:37 AM

Varnish

Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim


This topic has 14 replies

Jb

"James"

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 2:04 PM

graham wrote:

> On 28/09/2015 8:37 AM, James wrote:
> > Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
> > after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
> > (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
> >
> Try this:
>
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=72867&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1
>
> or this:
>
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=30268&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1
>
> Graham

Good ideas. I just happen to have a large bottle of Argon attached to
my Heli-arc welder so I'll look into adding inert gas to the can. Jim

gg

graham

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 9:00 AM

On 28/09/2015 8:37 AM, James wrote:
> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>
Try this:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=72867&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1

or this:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=30268&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1

Graham

wn

woodchucker

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 4:50 PM

On 9/28/2015 1:18 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 9/28/2015 10:40 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 9/28/15 9:37 AM, James wrote:
>>> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
>>> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
>>> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>>>
>>
>> http://www.stoplossbags.com/about.html
>>
>>
>
>
> So you know if those bags are reusable, if you use the same product? I
> wonder if they would be usable with Gel Varnishes.
`
I use the bladders from boxed wine. My BIL provided me with 20 boxes.
They definetly work well. I have been using them for years for shellac,
poly, spar varnish , latex paints, oil based paints.

All have done nicely, contrary to what some of you say about the bags
not being air proof . The nice thing is no rust from the can, and no
issues with dried finish.

--
Jeff

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 4:32 PM


"James" wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
James wrote:
> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
> after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
> (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
-------------------------------------------------------
Standard tool when doing varnish work on a small/medium power
boat is a propane torch along with those paint brushes.

Shoot unlit propane down into can to drive out any air in top of can'
then seal can with can top.

Then turn can up side down trapping the propane in the bottom of
the can.

A couple of tips. A 28 ft power boat doesn't have any spars
so you don't have any need for spar varnish, rather straight
poly/varnish is what you need.

You'll be ahead of the game buying 750 ml cans of finish rather
than trying to use a work around to try to take advantage of a
larger package size.

Epifanes has what you need.

West Marine should have it.

Have fun and welcome aboard.

gg

graham

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 1:14 PM

On 28/09/2015 1:04 PM, James wrote:
> graham wrote:
>
>> On 28/09/2015 8:37 AM, James wrote:
>>> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
>>> after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
>>> (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>>>
>> Try this:
>>
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=72867&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1
>>
>> or this:
>>
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=30268&cat=1,190,44133&ap=1
>>
>> Graham
>
> Good ideas. I just happen to have a large bottle of Argon attached to
> my Heli-arc welder so I'll look into adding inert gas to the can. Jim
>
Those cans of inert gas are pricey (I have one for my better wines) and
the fact that you have plenty of argon solves your problem neatly.
Graham

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 10:57 PM

They mention to squeeze out the air and then put on the lid.
I think there would be some air still in the tube that makes is almost
perfect. If full of argon or such then no problem.

I don't know why not. It might be more difficult to stuff in the hole...

Martin

On 9/28/2015 12:18 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 9/28/2015 10:40 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 9/28/15 9:37 AM, James wrote:
>>> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
>>> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
>>> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>>>
>>
>> http://www.stoplossbags.com/about.html
>>
>>
>
>
> So you know if those bags are reusable, if you use the same product? I
> wonder if they would be usable with Gel Varnishes.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 2:46 PM

On 9/28/2015 10:37 AM, James wrote:
> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>


Buy a bigger boat so you can use it all in one time around. With the
money saved in spoiled paint it will pay for itself.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 10:40 AM

On 9/28/15 9:37 AM, James wrote:
> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>

http://www.stoplossbags.com/about.html


--

-MIKE-

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Bill

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 2:41 PM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/28/2015 10:37 AM, James wrote:
>> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
>> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
>> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>>
>
>
> Buy a bigger boat so you can use it all in one time around. With the
> money saved in spoiled paint it will pay for itself.

+1

Ll

Leon

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 10:17 AM

On 9/28/2015 9:37 AM, James wrote:
> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>


The absolutely easiest is to fill the can with an inert gass, like Bloxygen.
http://www.amazon.com/IRONWOOD-DESIGN-RBBlox-Bloxygen-Preserver/dp/B0002088O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443453216&sr=8-1&keywords=bloxygen

Or transfer the remainder into smaller quart cans filled to the top.

Or what I do, as my cans don't sit long before being used, turn the can
upside down so that the unexposed portion at the lid end when you store
it. The other end will begins to set but you don't have to work your
way through the thick gunk.

Jb

"James"

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 11:46 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:

>
> "James" wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> James wrote:
> > Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
> > after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
> > (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Standard tool when doing varnish work on a small/medium power
> boat is a propane torch along with those paint brushes.
>
> Shoot unlit propane down into can to drive out any air in top of can'
> then seal can with can top.
>
> Then turn can up side down trapping the propane in the bottom of
> the can.
>
> A couple of tips. A 28 ft power boat doesn't have any spars
> so you don't have any need for spar varnish, rather straight
> poly/varnish is what you need.
>
> You'll be ahead of the game buying 750 ml cans of finish rather
> than trying to use a work around to try to take advantage of a
> larger package size.
>
> Epifanes has what you need.
>
> West Marine should have it.
>
> Have fun and welcome aboard.

I actually liked the old Behr Spar varnish (before Home Depot got a
hold of them) I used it on the swim platform of our 28' sailboat plus
all the other wood that was on it. Held up really well. I'm now looking
at Total Boat's Lust. Seems to have pretty good reviews.I have to mail
order things since I don't have ready access to a West Marine except in
Portland a 7 hour drive. Jim

Ll

Leon

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 12:18 PM

On 9/28/2015 10:40 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 9/28/15 9:37 AM, James wrote:
>> Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish after
>> it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon (have a
>> boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
>>
>
> http://www.stoplossbags.com/about.html
>
>


So you know if those bags are reusable, if you use the same product? I
wonder if they would be usable with Gel Varnishes.

Jb

"James"

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 5:42 PM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 9/28/2015 10:37 AM, James wrote:
> > Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
> > after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
> > (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
> >
>
>
> Buy a bigger boat so you can use it all in one time around. With the
> money saved in spoiled paint it will pay for itself.

It is a bigger boat. It's a 28' Carver Santa Cruz. We just made a trip
to Portland, Or to try out the new triple axle trailer. It wasn't quite
right. Had to bring it home and move the outside bunks and raise them.
Will be going back up in a week to bring it home. Then the fun really
starts.Lots of projects to do on it. Has a fair amount of teak trim on
it. Jim

P.S. There is no money savings on a BOAT (break out another thousand)

Jb

"James"

in reply to "James" on 28/09/2015 9:37 AM

28/09/2015 5:42 PM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 9/28/2015 10:37 AM, James wrote:
> > Hi group, I need some suggestions on preserving a can of varnish
> > after it's been opened. I tend to buy spar varnish by the gallon
> > (have a boat) and need to preserve it between uses. Thanks, Jim
> >
>
>
> Buy a bigger boat so you can use it all in one time around. With the
> money saved in spoiled paint it will pay for itself.


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