To All,
This came from my daughter, I checked it out www.symantec.com & it is
real! If you go to symantec & click on the virus name, it will give you
complete information on effects, damage, etc., AND how to remove it. I have
already received a message from an ISP this morning that they removed a .scr
file from a message I supposedly sent to someone I never heard of. Looks
like we have another worm getting into address books and propagating itself.
Subject: VIRUS INFILTRATION ALERT!!
ALL USERS: Please DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS that have the following
extensions (.PIF., .ZIP, .CMD, .BAT, .SCR) from any users, even ones that
you recognize.
There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all systems
on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system and
allow remote access to files.
--
Nahmie
Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
Before you gloat, when was the last time you heard of a TRS-80 virus??? The
very first virus I ever saw was on a Mac, a fairly benign one that would
cause a moose to randomly walk across your screen.
"Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:270120041240075574%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
systems
> > on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide
a
> > fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system
and
> > allow remote access to files.
>
> Note: As usual Mac users are not affected. :) Something to be said for
> being 3% of the computer market.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
"EvoDawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > My NAV prog has caught half a dozen of those already today.
> > I paid Symantec their $20 yesterday for the new year update
> > to the anti-virus definition subscription. JIT, oui?
>
> You mean their extorsion fee don't you. I wonder how much of that
> $20.00 Microsoft gets? In order for the NAV program to work you have
> to have Internet Explorer installed on your computer. Have you ever
> wondered why?
>
> Virus free for over 2 years and counting! What's even funnier is I
> can open all these virus in Emacs a file editor for Linux and read
> them and not even worry.
>
> Rich
> --
> "You can lead them to LINUX
> but you can't make them THINK"
I've been virus free for over twenty years and I only use Windows. Windows XP
has never crashed or caused a problem. Common sense is my first line of
defense. Why would I open an email from someone I don't know? There are ways
to open virus files in Windows also without being infected.
Neal
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:18:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all systems
>on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
>fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system and
>allow remote access to files.
My NAV prog has caught half a dozen of those already today.
I paid Symantec their $20 yesterday for the new year update
to the anti-virus definition subscription. JIT, oui?
------------------------------------------------------
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In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all systems
> on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
> fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system and
> allow remote access to files.
Note: As usual Mac users are not affected. :) Something to be said for
being 3% of the computer market.
Allen
Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, EvoDawg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> js wrote:
>
> > isnt hurting Linux either, so I dont care. :)
> >
> >
> > "Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:270120041240075574%[email protected]...
> >> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
>
> Me too!!!! Have you seen those IBM comercials? Interesting web site on
> their use of linux in the future and now. http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/
> I'm wondering when Microsoft clients are going to stop putting up with this.
>
> Rich
The joys of operating non-homogenized computing environments :) I
don't think all Linux (or Mac) is the answer to the enterprise
computing solution, but applied in the right places it can sure reduce
a lot of vunerabilities and increase functionality. Ya' got to wonder
what the cost to business will be from this latest MS Virus and if
it'll open some eyes to the possibilites.
My old G4 here keeps humming along, four years old and able to keep up
with the latest apps and services in an otherwise all MS enviroment
without a problem running OS 10.3. My dell laptop sits on the other
desk as a space heater.
Allen
Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, EvoDawg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Allen Epps wrote:
>
>
> > My old G4 here keeps humming along, four years old and able to keep up
> > with the latest apps and services in an otherwise all MS enviroment
> > without a problem running OS 10.3. My dell laptop sits on the other
> > desk as a space heater.
>
> Why not think about installing linux on it. You're already use to a Unix
> system by using a Mac. Just a suggestion. I love the command line and
> scripting.
>
> Rich
I don't have any real need to do so but I have fooled around in the X11
window a bit since that come installed. There's quite a few people in
my company that are resisting the MS assimilation and dual booting the
Mac with Linux on one side an OSX on the other. It's awful handy to
have a command line for network troublshooting.
I saw a couple months ago that in the three years since OSX has come
out it has become the largest UNIX deployed platform. Given the
numbers of of Sparcs here at work that's saying something (not to
mention a few Crays' ;)
Allen
Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, Mark Jerde
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Allen Epps wrote:
>
> > I saw a couple months ago that in the three years since OSX has come
> > out it has become the largest UNIX deployed platform. Given the
> > numbers of of Sparcs here at work that's saying something (not to
> > mention a few Crays' ;)
>
> I thought most supercomputers ran specalized OS's, not UNIX. Zat so?
>
> -- Mark
>
>
True, Didn't mean to say they didn't (bad syntex on my part) , although
some of the large clusters are surprisingly familar
Allen
In article <[email protected]>, EvoDawg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Why not think about installing linux on it. You're already use to a Unix
> system by using a Mac. Just a suggestion. I love the command line and
> scripting.
In OS X we have the full command line (with choice of shell, for those
bash fans), all the *nix scripting languages, and AppleScript to tie it
all together.
Who needs Linux?
djb
--
There are no socks in my email address.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
In article <[email protected]>, George
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Before you gloat, when was the last time you heard of a TRS-80 virus??? The
> very first virus I ever saw was on a Mac, a fairly benign one that would
> cause a moose to randomly walk across your screen.
>
> "Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:270120041240075574%[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
>
I remember that! Thought it was the end of the world. But to relate my
beloved G4 to a TRS-80 how could you! :( I learned basic on the trash
80 when a "tape drive" was a cassette recorder. Of course I also
programmed on cards only proving I'm getting old.
For the on-topic part of this post cut out and glues up the legs for
the new nightstands tonight out of some nice cherry I picked up this
last weekend. finally a chance to do something other than house
repairs. Tomorrow night mortises... stay tuned a may finally have
something worthy of a posted picture when done.
Allen
Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Allen Epps wrote:
>
> >> I thought most supercomputers ran specalized OS's, not UNIX. Zat so?
>
> > True, Didn't mean to say they didn't (bad syntex on my part) , although
> > some of the large clusters are surprisingly familar
>
> The cluster at Virginia Tech, billed as being the world's fasteset
> university supercomputer, is running stock OS-X on stock Mac G5s.
Yep, and looks like they're working with Apple to build another using
X-Serves with more capacity but considerably smaller footprint.
Allen
Catonsville, MD
Allen Epps wrote:
> My old G4 here keeps humming along, four years old and able to keep up
> with the latest apps and services in an otherwise all MS enviroment
> without a problem running OS 10.3. My dell laptop sits on the other
> desk as a space heater.
Why not think about installing linux on it. You're already use to a Unix
system by using a Mac. Just a suggestion. I love the command line and
scripting.
Rich
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> To All,
> This came from my daughter, I checked it out www.symantec.com & it is
> real! If you go to symantec & click on the virus name, it will give you
> complete information on effects, damage, etc., AND how to remove it. I
have
> already received a message from an ISP this morning that they removed a
.scr
> file from a message I supposedly sent to someone I never heard of. Looks
> like we have another worm getting into address books and propagating
itself.
>
> Subject: VIRUS INFILTRATION ALERT!!
> ALL USERS: Please DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS that have the following
> extensions (.PIF., .ZIP, .CMD, .BAT, .SCR) from any users, even ones that
> you recognize.
>
> There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
systems
> on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
> fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system
and
> allow remote access to files.
>
>
>
> --
> Nahmie
> Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
Frankly, I don't get how companies still get infected with this stuff. I'm
a systems engineer and our firewall already blocks all of those file
extensions plus about two dozen others. (Actually, we let in .zip files,
and I sent another friendly reminder to the staff today that if they open a
zip, they'd better be damn sure they know what it is) It's not exactly
rocket science. I can see it happening to less-informed home users, but for
any company bigger than 50 people, I just don't know. It would be great to
get a list of the nearby companies that got infected, because they
apparently need computer help.
todd
if you start getting a bunch of messages with the same type of attachment,
don't you think it indicates a virus without needing to check?:-P
and even more to be said for using an old mac
> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all systems
>> on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
>> fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system and
>> allow remote access to files.
>
> Note: As usual Mac users are not affected. :) Something to be said for
> being 3% of the computer market.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
isnt hurting Linux either, so I dont care. :)
"Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:270120041240075574%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
systems
> > on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide
a
> > fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system
and
> > allow remote access to files.
>
> Note: As usual Mac users are not affected. :) Something to be said for
> being 3% of the computer market.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, "Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>ALL USERS: Please DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS that have the following
>extensions (.PIF., .ZIP, .CMD, .BAT, .SCR) from any users, even ones that
>you recognize.
Nothing new there... that's just standard safety practice. Don't open any
attachment that you weren't expecting.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> i.e. you lock things down and also as a side benefit cripple the ability
> of people to collaborate and accomplish their tasks in an efficient
> manner as well.
>
> Why would anyone send another person an mp* file unless it was
> "extracurricular"?, you ask. Well, let's see, how about sending out
> product demos, the results of test events, and other such either morale
> or marketing tools? As far as images, how about sending or receiving
> product pictures, inputs to presentations or other such materials.
>
> yeah, blocking everything stops a few people from sending around
> trash, but then, at my company if you do that they walk your butt out
> the door -- and we can actually accomplish our jobs using IT assets
> instead of being hindered by them.
> /rant off
I do see your point and agree with a lot of what you are saying. However,
not every environment is alike. Also unfortunate is the fact that sometimes
the "powers that be" decide that it is much easier from an administrative
standpoint to take privledges away from everyone instead of treating the
underlying problem. As I have to explain to people on almost a daily basis,
as a member of the IS staff, I only enforce the policies that have been
handed down from above.
Rob
Allen Epps wrote:
> I saw a couple months ago that in the three years since OSX has come
> out it has become the largest UNIX deployed platform. Given the
> numbers of of Sparcs here at work that's saying something (not to
> mention a few Crays' ;)
I thought most supercomputers ran specalized OS's, not UNIX. Zat so?
-- Mark
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:29:32 -0600, todd wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I don't get how companies still get infected with this stuff. I'm
> > a systems engineer and our firewall already blocks all of those file
> > extensions plus about two dozen others. (Actually, we let in .zip files,
> > and I sent another friendly reminder to the staff today that if they open a
> > zip, they'd better be damn sure they know what it is) It's not exactly
> > rocket science. I can see it happening to less-informed home users, but for
> > any company bigger than 50 people, I just don't know. It would be great to
> > get a list of the nearby companies that got infected, because they
> > apparently need computer help.
> >
> > todd
>
> Well, I can tell you about one large soft-drink company based in Atlanta
> that was pretty much hosed by the BLASTER virus. 20000 desktops, all of
> which were running 2k and most got infected. Its not always the mom and
> pop type establishments or the AOL users (no offense to any AOL users out
> there. It happens all the time.
>
> We stopped over 5000 of those e-mails from getting into our small (relatively
> speaking) company today alone. We also block most payload-type
> attachments, as well as jpg, gif, bmp, mp* files...you'd be surprised what
> people send each other at work. I'm a fairly twisted individual, but some
> of the stuff I've seen come in would drive a buzzard off the shit wagon.
>
i.e. you lock things down and also as a side benefit cripple the ability
of people to collaborate and accomplish their tasks in an efficient
manner as well.
Why would anyone send another person an mp* file unless it was
"extracurricular"?, you ask. Well, let's see, how about sending out
product demos, the results of test events, and other such either morale
or marketing tools? As far as images, how about sending or receiving
product pictures, inputs to presentations or other such materials.
yeah, blocking everything stops a few people from sending around
trash, but then, at my company if you do that they walk your butt out
the door -- and we can actually accomplish our jobs using IT assets
instead of being hindered by them.
/rant off
> Rob
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> isnt hurting Linux either, so I dont care. :)
>
And if you insist on Windoze, use Netscape or Mozilla instead of IE.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:18:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
systems
> >on the Internet.
>
>
> woah up there nahmie. according to symantec:
> Systems Not Affected: DOS, Linux, Macintosh, OS/2, UNIX, Windows 3.x
Y'right! The message I copied/pasted from her was one she got through NY
State, as she works in county Medicaid office, so they are probably 99.99%
M$. She says the last nasty virus that got loose took over a month before
the state/counties finally got it completely cleaned out of their systems,
and some counties were without computer services(through state links) for
over a week.
One of our other girls is personal secretary for county Supreme Court judge,
and when 9/11 happened, NYS computer links were down for some time until
they could be re-routed. Apparently the main distribution hub/servers for
the state were in the sub-basements of WTC.
--
Nahmie
Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
Todd,
See my reply to Bridger
--
Nahmie
Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > To All,
> > This came from my daughter, I checked it out www.symantec.com & it
is
> > real! If you go to symantec & click on the virus name, it will give you
> > complete information on effects, damage, etc., AND how to remove it. I
> have
> > already received a message from an ISP this morning that they removed a
> .scr
> > file from a message I supposedly sent to someone I never heard of. Looks
> > like we have another worm getting into address books and propagating
> itself.
> >
> > Subject: VIRUS INFILTRATION ALERT!!
> > ALL USERS: Please DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS that have the following
> > extensions (.PIF., .ZIP, .CMD, .BAT, .SCR) from any users, even ones
that
> > you recognize.
> >
> > There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
> systems
> > on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide
a
> > fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system
> and
> > allow remote access to files.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nahmie
> > Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
>
> Frankly, I don't get how companies still get infected with this stuff.
I'm
> a systems engineer and our firewall already blocks all of those file
> extensions plus about two dozen others. (Actually, we let in .zip files,
> and I sent another friendly reminder to the staff today that if they open
a
> zip, they'd better be damn sure they know what it is) It's not exactly
> rocket science. I can see it happening to less-informed home users, but
for
> any company bigger than 50 people, I just don't know. It would be great
to
> get a list of the nearby companies that got infected, because they
> apparently need computer help.
>
> todd
>
>
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:18:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>To All,
> This came from my daughter, I checked it out www.symantec.com & it is
>real! If you go to symantec & click on the virus name, it will give you
>complete information on effects, damage, etc., AND how to remove it. I have
>already received a message from an ISP this morning that they removed a .scr
>file from a message I supposedly sent to someone I never heard of. Looks
>like we have another worm getting into address books and propagating itself.
>
>Subject: VIRUS INFILTRATION ALERT!!
>ALL USERS: Please DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS that have the following
>extensions (.PIF., .ZIP, .CMD, .BAT, .SCR) from any users, even ones that
>you recognize.
good advice.
>
>There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all systems
>on the Internet.
woah up there nahmie. according to symantec:
Systems Not Affected: DOS, Linux, Macintosh, OS/2, UNIX, Windows 3.x
>The anti-virus software company is working to provide a
>fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your system and
>allow remote access to files.
Allen Epps wrote:
>> I thought most supercomputers ran specalized OS's, not UNIX. Zat so?
> True, Didn't mean to say they didn't (bad syntex on my part) , although
> some of the large clusters are surprisingly familar
The cluster at Virginia Tech, billed as being the world's fasteset
university supercomputer, is running stock OS-X on stock Mac G5s.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:38:58 GMT, EvoDawg
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> My NAV prog has caught half a dozen of those already today.
>> I paid Symantec their $20 yesterday for the new year update
>> to the anti-virus definition subscription. JIT, oui?
>
>You mean their extorsion fee don't you. I wonder how much of that
>$20.00 Microsoft gets? In order for the NAV program to work you have
>to have Internet Explorer installed on your computer. Have you ever
>wondered why?
>
>Virus free for over 2 years and counting! What's even funnier is I
>can open all these virus in Emacs a file editor for Linux and read
>them and not even worry.
>
>Rich
heck, you can open them in notepad on a windows box and not worry.
what you can't do is execute them.
js wrote:
> isnt hurting Linux either, so I dont care. :)
>
>
> "Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:270120041240075574%[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
> systems
>> > on the Internet. The anti-virus software company is working to provide
> a
>> > fix. If you open any of the attachments, it will compromise your
>> > system
> and
>> > allow remote access to files.
>>
>> Note: As usual Mac users are not affected. :) Something to be said for
>> being 3% of the computer market.
>>
>> Allen
>> Catonsville, MD
Me too!!!! Have you seen those IBM comercials? Interesting web site on
their use of linux in the future and now. http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/
I'm wondering when Microsoft clients are going to stop putting up with this.
Rich
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Larry Jaques wrote:
> My NAV prog has caught half a dozen of those already today.
> I paid Symantec their $20 yesterday for the new year update
> to the anti-virus definition subscription. JIT, oui?
You mean their extorsion fee don't you. I wonder how much of that
$20.00 Microsoft gets? In order for the NAV program to work you have
to have Internet Explorer installed on your computer. Have you ever
wondered why?
Virus free for over 2 years and counting! What's even funnier is I
can open all these virus in Emacs a file editor for Linux and read
them and not even worry.
Rich
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:53:50 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:18:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >There is a FAST-SPREADING VIRUS (W32.Novarg.A) that is affecting all
>systems
>> >on the Internet.
>>
>>
>> woah up there nahmie. according to symantec:
>> Systems Not Affected: DOS, Linux, Macintosh, OS/2, UNIX, Windows 3.x
>
>Y'right! The message I copied/pasted from her was one she got through NY
>State, as she works in county Medicaid office, so they are probably 99.99%
>M$. She says the last nasty virus that got loose took over a month before
>the state/counties finally got it completely cleaned out of their systems,
>and some counties were without computer services(through state links) for
>over a week.
>
>One of our other girls is personal secretary for county Supreme Court judge,
>and when 9/11 happened, NYS computer links were down for some time until
>they could be re-routed. Apparently the main distribution hub/servers for
>the state were in the sub-basements of WTC.
they run windows on their servers? that's just plain stupid.
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:29:32 -0600, todd wrote:
>
> Frankly, I don't get how companies still get infected with this stuff. I'm
> a systems engineer and our firewall already blocks all of those file
> extensions plus about two dozen others. (Actually, we let in .zip files,
> and I sent another friendly reminder to the staff today that if they open a
> zip, they'd better be damn sure they know what it is) It's not exactly
> rocket science. I can see it happening to less-informed home users, but for
> any company bigger than 50 people, I just don't know. It would be great to
> get a list of the nearby companies that got infected, because they
> apparently need computer help.
>
> todd
Well, I can tell you about one large soft-drink company based in Atlanta
that was pretty much hosed by the BLASTER virus. 20000 desktops, all of
which were running 2k and most got infected. Its not always the mom and
pop type establishments or the AOL users (no offense to any AOL users out
there. It happens all the time.
We stopped over 5000 of those e-mails from getting into our small (relatively
speaking) company today alone. We also block most payload-type
attachments, as well as jpg, gif, bmp, mp* files...you'd be surprised what
people send each other at work. I'm a fairly twisted individual, but some
of the stuff I've seen come in would drive a buzzard off the shit wagon.
Rob