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Seth

11/08/2009 3:40 PM

Aluminum Edge Banding/ T-Moldings

I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. A customer is
requesting an aluminum edge banding. They want it somewhere from 1-3
mil. they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. I don't have the
machinery to properly make this. This is a long term deal. they will
probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. I am
looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
making these doors for me.


This topic has 12 replies

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Seth

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 9:57 PM

On Aug 11, 9:59=A0pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Seth wrote:
> > I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> > requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1-3
> > mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0...
>
> You mean mm??? =A0Al foil is on the order of 8-10 mil iirc; I know it has
> to be a fair amount over 1 mil.
>
> 1 mil --> 0.001" whereas 1 mm --> ~0.04" --> 40 mil
>
> That's at least enough material it would have a chance of standing up to
> something; the other would be gone in a week on any exposed edge.
>
> I think would need far more details to know just what might actually be
> feasible here.
>
> --

i don't know much about manufacturing. i own the shop and my guys
pretty much run it. i am used to running white boards all day with a
thin white PVC edge. this is all new to me. I have seen a number of
samples that have previously been supplied to this customer. I can
try to explain it over the phone if you have a few minutes. email me
directly at [email protected] and we can set up a time to speak.

thanks

Ss

Seth

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 9:54 PM

On Aug 11, 11:46=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 9:59=A0pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Seth wrote:
> > > I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> > > requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1=
-3
> > > mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0...
>
> > You mean mm??? =A0Al foil is on the order of 8-10 mil iirc; I know it h=
as
> > to be a fair amount over 1 mil.
>
> > 1 mil --> 0.001" whereas 1 mm --> ~0.04" --> 40 mil
>
> > That's at least enough material it would have a chance of standing up t=
o
> > something; the other would be gone in a week on any exposed edge.
>
> > I think would need far more details to know just what might actually be
> > feasible here.
>
> > --
>
> My old edgebander (SCM) would lay up 1/4" oak strips and would
> certainly handle 1/8" aluminum, including the edge-trimming and end-
> chops. Going around a rectangular door with t-moulding is a pain in
> the ass as you pretty much have to mitre.
> But, t-mouldings also need to be trimmed and finished.
> I would be more inclined to go to laminate based metals and use
> contact cement.

Is this something you would consider manufacturing? If so, you can
email me directly at [email protected] and we could set up a time to
talk.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 5:16 PM

On Aug 11, 6:40=A0pm, Seth <[email protected]> wrote:
> I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1-3
> mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0I don't have the
> machinery to properly make this. =A0This is a long term deal. =A0they wil=
l
> probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. =A0I am
> looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
> making these doors for me.

These doors are made out of what? PB, Ply?

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 5:55 PM

1 to 3 mil is aluminum foil. No way in a T molding. You can get aluminum
strip in that thickness. Glue it on and trim it just like wood edge banding.
Have fun keeping the wrinkles out. My guess would be that they don't know
what they are asking for. Better clarify before planning the job.

"Seth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:f1122ae3-8da3-4537-b0c1-8b4cc7758277@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. A customer is
> requesting an aluminum edge banding. They want it somewhere from 1-3
> mil. they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. I don't have the
> machinery to properly make this. This is a long term deal. they will
> probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. I am
> looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
> making these doors for me.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 6:52 PM

Seth wrote:
> I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. A customer is
> requesting an aluminum edge banding. They want it somewhere from 1-3
> mil. they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. I don't have the
> machinery to properly make this. This is a long term deal. they will
> probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. I am
> looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
> making these doors for me.

I don't have the equipment you seek, but you may want to indicate where
you are, or the freight charges may kill you.

--
Froz...

AS

Angela Sekeris

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 6:31 PM

On Aug 11, 8:55=A0pm, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1 to 3 mil is aluminum foil. No way in a T molding. You can get aluminum
> strip in that thickness. Glue it on and trim it just like wood edge bandi=
ng.
> Have fun keeping the wrinkles out. My guess would be that they don't know
> what they are asking for. Better clarify before planning the job.
>
> "Seth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:f1122ae3-8da3-4537-b0c1-8b4cc7758277@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> > requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1-3
> > mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0I don't have the
> > machinery to properly make this. =A0This is a long term deal. =A0they w=
ill
> > probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. =A0I am
> > looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
> > making these doors for me.

mm maybe?

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 8:46 PM

On Aug 11, 9:59=A0pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Seth wrote:
> > I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> > requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1-3
> > mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0...
>
> You mean mm??? =A0Al foil is on the order of 8-10 mil iirc; I know it has
> to be a fair amount over 1 mil.
>
> 1 mil --> 0.001" whereas 1 mm --> ~0.04" --> 40 mil
>
> That's at least enough material it would have a chance of standing up to
> something; the other would be gone in a week on any exposed edge.
>
> I think would need far more details to know just what might actually be
> feasible here.
>
> --

My old edgebander (SCM) would lay up 1/4" oak strips and would
certainly handle 1/8" aluminum, including the edge-trimming and end-
chops. Going around a rectangular door with t-moulding is a pain in
the ass as you pretty much have to mitre.
But, t-mouldings also need to be trimmed and finished.
I would be more inclined to go to laminate based metals and use
contact cement.

Ss

Seth

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 9:24 PM

On Aug 11, 8:16=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 6:40=A0pm, Seth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. =A0A customer is
> > requesting an aluminum edge banding. =A0They want it somewhere from 1-3
> > mil. =A0they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. =A0I don't have the
> > machinery to properly make this. =A0This is a long term deal. =A0they w=
ill
> > probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. =A0I am
> > looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
> > making these doors for me.
>
> These doors are made out of what? PB, Ply?

3/4" white melamine with a laminate glued to one side. the other side
stays white.

Ss

Seth

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 4:18 PM

I am located in New York.

Di

"Dave in Houston"

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 9:07 PM


"Seth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e9eaf00c-ae61-4672-9ed5-daefda321bc3@z28g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>I am located in New York.

BMS Manufacturing is a fabricator in Watkins Glen, N.Y. I saw Bill
(Meehan) fabricate suspension parts for the Formula One teams when he was
still in high school back in the seventies. Turned his skill into a very
successful fabricating business.
http://www.bmsmanufacturing.com/

Dave in Houston

dn

dpb

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

11/08/2009 8:59 PM

Seth wrote:
> I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. A customer is
> requesting an aluminum edge banding. They want it somewhere from 1-3
> mil. they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. ...

You mean mm??? Al foil is on the order of 8-10 mil iirc; I know it has
to be a fair amount over 1 mil.

1 mil --> 0.001" whereas 1 mm --> ~0.04" --> 40 mil

That's at least enough material it would have a chance of standing up to
something; the other would be gone in a week on any exposed edge.

I think would need far more details to know just what might actually be
feasible here.

--

AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to Seth on 11/08/2009 3:40 PM

14/08/2009 11:50 PM

Seth <[email protected]> wrote:
: I manufacture kitchen cabinets and have an issue. A customer is
: requesting an aluminum edge banding. They want it somewhere from 1-3
: mil. they suggeted using an aluminum T-Molding. I don't have the
: machinery to properly make this. This is a long term deal. they will
: probably be buying around 100 kitchens per year like this. I am
: looking for someone who has the machinery and might be interested in
: making these doors for me.


Can't you make the doors and buy premade moldings? There are lots of
sources:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Gv6&q=aluminum+t-molding&aq=4&oq=aluminum+t-&aqi=g10

3 mil is very thin. Why would they want a molding as thin as that?

-- Andy Barss


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