I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
It never really was powerful enough and now it is needing parts.
The specs on this Karcher claim to be: 1.6 gpm at 1600 psi.
I really do not want a gas powered one, though.
What about the larger electric driven ones ?
I'm looking at this one for $400:
http://www.toolbarn.com/product/portercable/PCE1700/
It is driven by a 2.0 HP electric motor, with the following specs:
1.7 gpm at 1700 psi.
What gives? Can I really expect its performance to be comparable
to the little dinky one I have ? Even with a 2.0 HP motor?
Thanks,
Larry
Glad that worked out for you! I'll be keeping this one in mind if I
end up moving to a bigger place (possibly soon).
Btw.. my neighbor bought a Karcher and didn't heed my advice. He got
too close with the wrong nozzle to his Jeep and ripped off some of the
paint. Just thought you'd see the humor in that from a Karcher.
`Casper
>[email protected] was heard to say...
>Thanks Casper.
>I just bought that one. It is internet order only, the local stores
>probably won't have it and they didn't seem to anxious to order me
>one. I ended up about $900 in it with shipping and an extra 50' hose.
>This sombitch is as powerful than any of the gas ones I have used.
>2.5 GPM @ 2700 PSI and it looks like it can really deliver that.
>Side by side with my neighbor's 6HP Honda it looks like it is blowing
>harder.
>It certainly will "git 'er done"
>I immediately cut the 6-30 plug off and installed a 10-30 "dryer plug"
>so it was more portable. (both are 240v 30a rated so it is legal).
>Most people have a dryer outlet. I use that style for my welder so I
>have a couple outlets already. I doubt I will be welding and pressure
>cleaning at the same time.
>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:00:32 GMT, Casper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
>>>Strictly a toy.
>>
>>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's really all about what
>>you need it to do. For my needs, the Karcher works very well. Last
>>summer I used it to power off the old paint on my deck and it did a
>>fine job. In one day I cleaned the deck and repainted/sealed it.
>>
>>If you want something electric, check out Northern Tool. They are even
>>having some sort of sale, according to the new catalog I just
>>received. Here's one that "might" intgerested you...
>>
>>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200321853&R=200321853
>>
>>Good luck!
I think the electric pressure washers are about as useful as the old
"power nozzles" you used to buy for your hose end. I know someone that
loves his to wash his car, but he washes it every week. Then if the
weather is really bad and his car gets mud on it, he takes it to a
regular car wash since it won't clean off dirt.
I also have a little 5hp Honda powered washer. It pushes out at 2400
psi, and works like a champ. I bought it a few years ago, and have
washed a lot of houses, cleaned a lot of driveways and sidewalks with
it without any problems at all. If you buy one of these, the must have
along with the washer is the largest size (diameter) water hose you can
put on it to supply water. Depending on your water pressure, the
skinny little garden hose won't be enough to use the machine at
capacity.
Robert
I needed a PW to wash the car - a '99 black/black Vette.
I bought a 300 karcher on sale for 175. I returned it. it didn't cut it.
I could tell.
I also did not want gas. As much as I wanted a Harley at 3a.m.
So I payed 800 for an italian Interpump Boxjet Turbo, no tax. 110 V. It
works great. It does rims. You have to hold it like at the pay pumps.
Karchers are literally designed to last for 110 hours.
You can go 220V.
This is, I'll tell you, slightly better than the karcher, which is a big
improvement. You can, flick of the wrist, blast soapy suds off the FAR side
of the hood.
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....Turbo21 actually.
not only will it last forever, but
in 110V, for my purposes, it is. Both statements are true.
This thing blows 15A fuses! I have to turn off all the lights and the
radio.
It is heavier than a case of beer, about the size of a 12 pack, very solid.
Would run 24, 7.
It is a pleasure to wash the car. This sheating off the far side is very
important, w/o going to the o/ side. I run around like a chicken anyways.
I can take 8 hrs.
And 110V, 110V!
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when using thre 100' garden extension cord I noticed how hot the wire was.
It warped and melted the orange plastic cord-wrap wheel!
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any more and the paint finish & o/ is in danger, and less and we're talking
garden hose. It IS one of those things. A good question. DOn't know if I
gave the appropriate answer. Go to a commercial dealer. However, they may
only tell how how shitty Karcher is, for personal reasons. There are a few
names, I can't remember...
look up professional pressure washers, or commercial
say, <http://www.higherpowersupplies.com/>
gpm and psi have no connection to the speed the water comes out of the
nozzle
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<http://www.generalpump.com/2003Catalog/GP%20Catalog.pdf>
p.8, second pic down on the right. Turbo21
about 52 lbs.
there are more substantial sites.
you can see the quality of the build. For this price. Definetely a good
unit. Makes a difference. This unit has ceramic plungers. Takes an oil
change.
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My Briggs & Stratton [yes they make a power washer] puts out 2500 psi
with the high pressure nozzle, which will strip paint and gunk off
almost anything. The higher volume, lower pressure nozzles are for
house washing & applying oil spray to fruit trees with the eductor
tube. Cost about $350 & very handy on my 3-1/2 acre micro farm. Washing
vehicles is chancey with that much power.
Bugs
Hmmmm.. some (most?) of the larger electric units do NOT automagically
turn-off.
When in doubt pick out a unit with a CAT pump -- a) dependable, b)
parts are available and c) pump is worth rebuilding. The pump will
probably increase the cost by around a hundred bucks compared to an
el-cheapo.
Also, if possible, HOT water works best though some pumps aren't built
to handle really hot water.
While I'm not going to say you need 10HP as some others have said, I
have never used a pump pushing less than about 2.5 gpm @ 2500 psi that
was worth the effort. That puts you either near the high end of
electrics or well into the gas powered lines.
hex
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[email protected] wrote:
> I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
Strictly a toy.
> I really do not want a gas powered one, though.
Yes.
Anything less than 10HP, 3,00 PSI is also a toy IMHO.
Probably looking at about $3K if you are serious.
Anything less might be good for cleaning sidewalks, but not much else.
Been there, done that.
Lew
"wheelzuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
bent mentioned
"when using thre 100' garden extension cord I noticed how hot the wire was.
It warped and melted the orange plastic cord-wrap wheel!"
---------
If you're referring to the electrical cord, isn't it common practice these
days to find an advisory on the cord wheel to suggest it's uncoiled off the
wheel to it's fullest extent, before use? It certainly is here in the UK.
Coiled/wrapped cable on an electricity supply is known to be an electrical
hazard and the cause of many fires.
It is not common knowledge in the US that extension cords should not be
coiled up when they carry a heavy load and apparently bent is not aware of
that either.
"bent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is, I'll tell you, slightly better than the karcher, which is a big
> improvement. You can, flick of the wrist, blast soapy suds off the FAR
> side of the hood.
Is slightly better really a big improvement?
"Bugs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My Briggs & Stratton [yes they make a power washer] puts out
> 2500 psi
> with the high pressure nozzle, which will strip paint and gunk
> off
> almost anything. The higher volume, lower pressure nozzles are
> for
> house washing & applying oil spray to fruit trees with the
> eductor
> tube. Cost about $350 & very handy on my 3-1/2 acre micro farm.
> Washing
> vehicles is chancey with that much power.
> Bugs
>
Not true, but you do have to use the right nozzle and forget
about pencil streams especially. Also if it's a gas model, you
can throttle it down, as I do. The right tool for the job.
Pop
In article <[email protected]>, crane763
@yahoo.com says...
> I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
> It never really was powerful enough and now it is needing parts.
> The specs on this Karcher claim to be: 1.6 gpm at 1600 psi.
>
> I really do not want a gas powered one, though.
>
> What about the larger electric driven ones ?
>
> I'm looking at this one for $400:
> http://www.toolbarn.com/product/portercable/PCE1700/
> It is driven by a 2.0 HP electric motor, with the following specs:
> 1.7 gpm at 1700 psi.
>
> What gives? Can I really expect its performance to be comparable
> to the little dinky one I have ? Even with a 2.0 HP motor?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
If you want something that is more than a home handyman's toy you want to look
at something close-ish to 3gpm and closer to 2000 psi. Mine is driven by a
5horse Honda4-stroke and that thing really does clean up (11 litres/min at 2200
psi). I've borrowed a Stihl electric one that was pretty close in performance
(very heavy mind). Most of the smaller Karcher are gutless wonders.
-P.
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bent mentioned=20
"when using thre 100' garden extension cord I noticed how hot the wire =
was.=20
It warped and melted the orange plastic cord-wrap wheel!"
---------
If you're referring to the electrical cord, isn't it common practice =
these days to find an advisory on the cord wheel to suggest it's =
uncoiled off the wheel to it's fullest extent, before use? It certainly =
is here in the UK.
Coiled/wrapped cable on an electricity supply is known to be an =
electrical hazard and the cause of many fires.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:00:32 GMT, Casper <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
>>Strictly a toy.
>
>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's really all about what
>you need it to do. For my needs, the Karcher works very well. Last
>summer I used it to power off the old paint on my deck and it did a
>fine job. In one day I cleaned the deck and repainted/sealed it.
>
>If you want something electric, check out Northern Tool. They are even
>having some sort of sale, according to the new catalog I just
>received. Here's one that "might" intgerested you...
>
>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200321853&R=200321853
>
>Good luck!
Thanks Casper.
I just bought that one. It is internet order only, the local stores
probably won't have it and they didn't seem to anxious to order me
one. I ended up about $900 in it with shipping and an extra 50' hose.
This sombitch is as powerful than any of the gas ones I have used.
2.5 GPM @ 2700 PSI and it looks like it can really deliver that.
Side by side with my neighbor's 6HP Honda it looks like it is blowing
harder.
It certainly will "git 'er done"
I immediately cut the 6-30 plug off and installed a 10-30 "dryer plug"
so it was more portable. (both are 240v 30a rated so it is legal).
Most people have a dryer outlet. I use that style for my welder so I
have a couple outlets already. I doubt I will be welding and pressure
cleaning at the same time.
On 14 Mar 2006 03:35:52 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
>It never really was powerful enough and now it is needing parts.
>The specs on this Karcher claim to be: 1.6 gpm at 1600 psi.
>
>I really do not want a gas powered one, though.
>
>What about the larger electric driven ones ?
>
Northern Tools had a nice one for ~800 but I don't have the specs
handy.
I am with you, I want an electric too. I want to pipe it in like a
central vac with quick disconnects at both ends of the house.
One great thing about electrics is they turn off when you let go of
the trigger, instead of just turning the water to steam in the pump.
>I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
>It never really was powerful enough and now it is needing parts.
>The specs on this Karcher claim to be: 1.6 gpm at 1600 psi.
Really? I love my Karcher! It's all in what you need to do tho.
I've got a small single story home with only a 10x20 patio and 2-car
drive (just enough for parking) and a 4x8 deck. For me the Karcher
works perfectly, but if you've got more to do, then you're probably
only really going to be happy with a gas one.That Porter Cable one
looks pretty good, but it doesn't rate much higher than the Karcher so
I'd be skeptical. I get terrible headaches from gasoline, so it was a
simple choice for me.
Good luck!
~Casper
> > I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
>Strictly a toy.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's really all about what
you need it to do. For my needs, the Karcher works very well. Last
summer I used it to power off the old paint on my deck and it did a
fine job. In one day I cleaned the deck and repainted/sealed it.
If you want something electric, check out Northern Tool. They are even
having some sort of sale, according to the new catalog I just
received. Here's one that "might" intgerested you...
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200321853&R=200321853
Good luck!
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've given up on my compact electric Karcher Pressure Washer.
> It never really was powerful enough and now it is needing parts.
> The specs on this Karcher claim to be: 1.6 gpm at 1600 psi.
>
> I really do not want a gas powered one, though.
>
> What about the larger electric driven ones ?
If you can find an electric with 2,500 psi.
> I'm looking at this one for $400:
> http://www.toolbarn.com/product/portercable/PCE1700/
> It is driven by a 2.0 HP electric motor, with the following specs:
> 1.7 gpm at 1700 psi.
>
> What gives? Can I really expect its performance to be comparable
> to the little dinky one I have ? Even with a 2.0 HP motor?
Probably not.
Gas powered is going to work the best.