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charlie b

12/06/2004 11:34 PM

I gotta stop doing this - Push Stick

I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.

I gotta stop doing this.

charlie b


This topic has 12 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 7:48 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:19 -0700, charlie b <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
>dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
>get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
>Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
>or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
>turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
>pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
>of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
>
>I gotta stop doing this.

Au contraire. Start a new trend. Maloofesque Push Sticks, Ltd.
You'll be rich!


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"SwampBug"

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 12:18 PM

it got no rear heel/stop on it . . .
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"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:19 -0700, charlie b <[email protected]>
> calmly ranted:
>
>>I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
>>dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
>>get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
>>Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
>>or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
>>turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
>>pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
>>of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
>>
>>I gotta stop doing this.
>
> Au contraire. Start a new trend. Maloofesque Push Sticks, Ltd.
> You'll be rich!
>
>
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"SwampBug"

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 4:18 PM

If you will forgive me my newbie-ness, , ,this is the first I have heard of
such a configuration. . .but it's kewelll!

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"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SwampBug wrote:
>>
>> it got no rear heel/stop on it . . .
>
> Just turned three stepped Padouk pegs specifically for that purpose.
> Will drill a
> 3/8 inch through hole in the rear. Peg has half inch at 3/8 inch
> diameter and then
> a half inch of 3/4 inch diameter. Made up three of them so he'll
> have a couple of
> spares. When he eats up the first one he can pull it out and replace
> it. Probably
> will drill holes in the top of the front and put them up there so
> they'll be easy to find.
>
> George wrote:
>
>> Willpower. A push stick should be rough enough to grip without giving
>> splinters, sprayed casually with international orange to distinguish it
>> from
>> other scraps in the mess on the floor/bench. Then you don't give a rat's
>> if
>> you run it through and skim some off the sides, or even up the middle
>> when
>> doing thin stuff.
>
> Willpower? The "I gotta stop doing this" subject line was tongue in
> cheek.
> Since I do this because I like to, not because I have to, I have the
> luxury of
> exploring. Since I have 450 bf of the locust, I can take the piece I
> want out
> of an 8 footer if I find the grain pattern I like.
>
> This one's for my oldest son. His grandfather was a the prototype of
> the
> Jack of All Trades and was, if not a master of all, he was close
> enough.
> He was a boatbuilder, custom home builder, furniture maker, tool
> maker,
> mechanical genius and a mentor to Tyler. The ridgeboard of the house
> he
> and his wife built extended out beyond the roofline and was carved to
> look
> like a sea gull's head. Ed set the standard and I'm just trying to
> keep
> it going now that he's gone.
>
> With 10 coats of garnet shellac I doubt this thing'll get lost on the
> bench or floor. Hell, I may just put an earth magnet on each face
> so it'll stick to the table saw he'll eventually get. MIght even
> hide
> them with a thin ebony cap.
>
> And if, at some point this one gets chewed up - well I got plenty
> more
> wood. Perhaps I'll make a spare using this one as a pattern.
>
>> Sculpture ain't my thing.
>
> Sculpture is one of my things. To each his or her own.
>
> Matt wrote:
>
>> You are the ' Tom Plamann ' of push stick masters !
>
> "I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy." he said bowing respectfully.
>
> The Sultan of Swat. The Plamann of Push Sticks? Hmmm.
>
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Start a new trend. Maloofesque Push Sticks, Ltd.
>
> But then I'd have to do them in walnut?
>
> charlie b

Sw

"SwampBug"

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

14/06/2004 8:29 AM

Well the logic was flawless, the execution was immaculate rendering the
whole absolutely Imperial! <g>

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"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SwampBug wrote:
>>
>> If you will forgive me my newbie-ness, , ,this is the first I have heard
>> of
>> such a configuration. . .but it's kewelll!
>>
> A simple push stick is just that - a flat stick with a notch in one
> end
> that fits over the end of the board - the top of the notch on the top
> of
> the board and the bottom of the notch against the back edge of the
> board.
> The other end is rounded where you're hand goes to push the board
> into and passed the table saw blade. Pushes only - no downward
> pressure on the board.
>
> A better push "stick" is more of a delta or trapezoid on its side.
> The bottom has a small "foot" at the back to push on the end of
> the board being ripped while the bottom of the delta applies
> some downward force on the board while ripping. This type
> of push stick also keeps your hand up well above the top of
> the spinning saw blade.
>
> The one I did has a traditional hand saw handle which gives more
> downward force. The "foot" at the back of the bottom is replaced
> with a peg that fits a through hole in the bottom of the back of the
> "push stick". Since the "foot" often gets cut up on thin rips it's
> handy to be able to replace just the foot rather than the whole
> stick. Got the idea for the replacable peg "foot" from a recent
> woodworking magazine.
>
> This thing's a classic example of synthesis - combining
> existing ideas in a new way (though I'm sure this has
> been done before - I just haven't seen anything like so
> it's a new idea to me
>
> charlie b

c

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

14/06/2004 4:27 PM

charlie b <[email protected]> wrote:

>I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
>dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
>get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
>Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
>or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
>turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
>pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
>of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
>
>I gotta stop doing this.
>
>charlie b


Nice piece of work. It is a show piece? I'd use my fingers first
before taking a chance on it. ;)

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in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 8:06 PM

Sat, Jun 12, 2004, 11:34pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (charlie=A0b)
says:
I just can't seem to stay focused. <snip>

You been BBQing with sawdust from that imported wood again? And,
standing downwind?

A fancy push stick for me would mean it would take at least 4
minutes to make. And, it'd last probably one session of using it. It's
purty, but just wouldn't last if I was using it.


JOAT
I think, therefore I am. I think.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 3:13 PM

In article <[email protected]>, charlie b
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I gotta stop doing this.

Charlie... put down the wood and slowly, slowly, back away.

;-)

cb

charlie b

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 1:27 PM

SwampBug wrote:
>
> it got no rear heel/stop on it . . .

Just turned three stepped Padouk pegs specifically for that purpose.
Will drill a
3/8 inch through hole in the rear. Peg has half inch at 3/8 inch
diameter and then
a half inch of 3/4 inch diameter. Made up three of them so he'll
have a couple of
spares. When he eats up the first one he can pull it out and replace
it. Probably
will drill holes in the top of the front and put them up there so
they'll be easy to find.

George wrote:

> Willpower. A push stick should be rough enough to grip without giving
> splinters, sprayed casually with international orange to distinguish it from
> other scraps in the mess on the floor/bench. Then you don't give a rat's if
> you run it through and skim some off the sides, or even up the middle when
> doing thin stuff.

Willpower? The "I gotta stop doing this" subject line was tongue in
cheek.
Since I do this because I like to, not because I have to, I have the
luxury of
exploring. Since I have 450 bf of the locust, I can take the piece I
want out
of an 8 footer if I find the grain pattern I like.

This one's for my oldest son. His grandfather was a the prototype of
the
Jack of All Trades and was, if not a master of all, he was close
enough.
He was a boatbuilder, custom home builder, furniture maker, tool
maker,
mechanical genius and a mentor to Tyler. The ridgeboard of the house
he
and his wife built extended out beyond the roofline and was carved to
look
like a sea gull's head. Ed set the standard and I'm just trying to
keep
it going now that he's gone.

With 10 coats of garnet shellac I doubt this thing'll get lost on the
bench or floor. Hell, I may just put an earth magnet on each face
so it'll stick to the table saw he'll eventually get. MIght even
hide
them with a thin ebony cap.

And if, at some point this one gets chewed up - well I got plenty
more
wood. Perhaps I'll make a spare using this one as a pattern.

> Sculpture ain't my thing.

Sculpture is one of my things. To each his or her own.

Matt wrote:

> You are the ' Tom Plamann ' of push stick masters !

"I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy." he said bowing respectfully.

The Sultan of Swat. The Plamann of Push Sticks? Hmmm.

Larry Jaques wrote:

> Start a new trend. Maloofesque Push Sticks, Ltd.

But then I'd have to do them in walnut?

charlie b

cb

charlie b

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 10:53 PM

SwampBug wrote:
>
> If you will forgive me my newbie-ness, , ,this is the first I have heard of
> such a configuration. . .but it's kewelll!
>
A simple push stick is just that - a flat stick with a notch in one
end
that fits over the end of the board - the top of the notch on the top
of
the board and the bottom of the notch against the back edge of the
board.
The other end is rounded where you're hand goes to push the board
into and passed the table saw blade. Pushes only - no downward
pressure on the board.

A better push "stick" is more of a delta or trapezoid on its side.
The bottom has a small "foot" at the back to push on the end of
the board being ripped while the bottom of the delta applies
some downward force on the board while ripping. This type
of push stick also keeps your hand up well above the top of
the spinning saw blade.

The one I did has a traditional hand saw handle which gives more
downward force. The "foot" at the back of the bottom is replaced
with a peg that fits a through hole in the bottom of the back of the
"push stick". Since the "foot" often gets cut up on thin rips it's
handy to be able to replace just the foot rather than the whole
stick. Got the idea for the replacable peg "foot" from a recent
woodworking magazine.

This thing's a classic example of synthesis - combining
existing ideas in a new way (though I'm sure this has
been done before - I just haven't seen anything like so
it's a new idea to me

charlie b

Gg

"George"

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 12:17 PM

Willpower. A push stick should be rough enough to grip without giving
splinters, sprayed casually with international orange to distinguish it from
other scraps in the mess on the floor/bench. Then you don't give a rat's if
you run it through and skim some off the sides, or even up the middle when
doing thin stuff.

Sculpture ain't my thing.

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:19 -0700, charlie b <[email protected]>
> calmly ranted:
>
> >I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
> >dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
> >get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
> >Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
> >or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
> >turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
> >pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
> >of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
> >
> >I gotta stop doing this.
>
> Au contraire. Start a new trend. Maloofesque Push Sticks, Ltd.
> You'll be rich!

mm

"mattzack2"

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

13/06/2004 10:36 AM

You are the ' Tom Plamann ' of push stick masters !
Matt

"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
> dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
> get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
> Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
> or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
> turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
> pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
> of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
>
> I gotta stop doing this.
>
> charlie b

DB

Dragon Breath

in reply to charlie b on 12/06/2004 11:34 PM

14/06/2004 2:01 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:19 -0700, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I just can't seem to stay focused. Start out with a quick and
>dirty - a push stick in this case - and things just sort of
>get away. Started out intending to do a 3/4" ply push stick.
>Am almost done with a sculpted version in either honey
>or black locust. What was to be a 20 minute project is
>turning into a major minor project. Have some Padouk
>pegs to turn, some shaping to refine and probably 10 coats
>of shellac to apply. Pics in a.b.p.w.
>
>I gotta stop doing this.
>
>charlie b


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