I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that
I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
the wood pieces.
Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
Thanks in advance.
Steve
On 3/19/2012 3:06 PM, Leon wrote:
> I am going to these, put them anywhere and put most anything on them.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=48515&cat=1,43326
Yeah, buddy! You like mine, eh?
I have four of them. Just don't put a table saw blade on one ... it'll
take two hands, and a crowbar, to get it off.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:44:17 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 3/19/2012 5:35 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> And they're soooooo '40s!
>>
>> Hell, so am I.
>
> <g> Having pegboard in a decent shop is like selling HF tools right
> next to Festools in a store. It just isn't _done_!
Stop it Larry! That just ain't right.
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On Mar 19, 10:06=A0am, Bill Gill <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>
> > Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? =A0I got a to=
n of
> > crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > Steve
>
> Ok, just my preference. =A0I don't like pegboard. =A0I actually prefer
> to just use nails. =A0They can be driven in and removed as needed.
> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
> and convenience any day.
>
> Bill
I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or
> whatever) racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and
> keeping things organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I
> get my procrastination under control ............) But, some things,
> like pliers and chisels and ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need
> to have some slots, like would be made by three or more holes in a
> row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three
> holes, then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set
> up my router with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a
> rounding bit with guide shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole?
> More work, but fun stuff that I like to do, and the results are worth
> it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd
> sure like it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and
> warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go
> with the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton
> of crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
For slotted holes, I'd probably make a simple router jig and just cut
them with the router. If you don't mind having to watch the start and
stop lines closely, all you need is a simple piece of wood for the
bearing/collar to ride against. Another one would be a good idea to give
the router support. Two pieces at a right angle would provide a positive
stop for the end of the hole (which is the part I find most difficult).
I went with slatwall for part of my tool organization. The slat wall
itself isn't all that cheap, but it isn't all that expensive either.
Menards carries it for around $40 a sheet. The hooks are available in
large quantities cheaply, especially the single hooks. I got a box of 96
for around $35.
Puckdropper
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Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
"Bill Gill" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
> and convenience any day.
>
Same here. I have tried to use pegboard in a number of shops. Same thing
each time. It became a big dust magnet. And the pegs only held up things
that were a certain size and weight. Any thing that was a little irregular
or heavy, the pegs did not do that great of a job. And the pegs often fell
out when lifting the tool of of it. And if you do use pegboard, go to the
thicker stuff. The thin stuff warps and tears out.
The only place where I found pegboard to work well was on an electronics
bench. I built two of those. I could hang all kinds of small tools up and
did not have to worry about dust. It worked well in that application. Any
dust there was easily vacuumed out with a small hand vacuum.
If I need to hang a bunch of tools, I will just use nails. And if I need a
stronger surface to nail into, I just put up some pine boards and screw it
into a stud. I can even use some kind of screw in hook on the pine.
Allowing me to hang something quite heavy.
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Steve, that area of Karl's shop is just for picture taking. There's
> never any sawdust, scattered about, to show that he actually does any
> woodworking.
>
An armchair woodworker, eh? I have a hard time seeing that. ;)
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Ditto. The pegs always come out when you remove a tool, spiders get
> behind them, they look ugly, they break easily, etc.
>
> And they're soooooo '40s!
>
It's cheap at around $10 a sheet, easy to cut to size, deceptively useful,
easily adjustable, and the hooks are available cheaply. Better hooks are
available, but they cost a lot more.
For those reasons, I've been thinking of putting some up in the area I work
on my trains. I might be better served by using only a little pegboard and
filling the rest of the space with narrow shelves and lots of bins.
(Athearn Bluebox boxes.)
Puckdropper
--
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"Swingman" wrote
On 3/19/2012 4:43 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
>> cool. thanks for the answers and pictures. Is that TS fence solely
>> supported from the one end?
>Yep ... that's the way the Delta UniFence is designed. This one has an
>additional after-market "fence" that makes it similar to the Bei in jig
>versatility.
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Where did you get the "aftermarket fence"?
I want one. ;-)
Max
"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>It's called the "Uni-T-Fence Table Saw Fence":
>http://www.ttrackusa.com/unifence.htm
>I've had mine about ten years and would replace it in a heartbeat.
>It is drop dead easy to change between it and the OEM fence, and is
>arguably more jig friendly than the Beis, particularly when mounting
>sacrificial fences, which is something I do quite often when dadoing end
>panels in cabinets.
>Absolutely one of the best $100 investments I've made in versatile
>woodworking components.
>www.eWoodShop.com
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Super!! I will order one tomorrow.
Many thanks, Maestro
Max
"Bill Gill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill Gill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>> and convenience any day.
>>>
>>
>> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am
>> expressing
>> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
>> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
>> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more
>> area
>> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>>
> Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
> and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
> I put up a piece of plywood.
>
Yep, I do similar things. In the garage, NOT in the house, I just take some
pine boards and screw it to the studs with deck screws. That gives me lots
of area and something strong enough to put in big screw hooks and support
some weight.
In article <[email protected]>,
Steve B <[email protected]> wrote:
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton
> of crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
I use spring clips like these
http://uk.farnell.com/terry-tool/80-16-3/terry-tool-clips-16mm/dp/1552138
Some stuff sits/hangs on nails, screws or dowels.
For my mallet, for example, I drilled two 1/2" holes just a bit further
apart than the thickness the the handle and put in two dowels long enough
to support the head.
My pliers and cutters just sit astride a single screw.
"G" cramps can also be hung on long dowels.
Some rather hastily taken photos, some tools are absent - "on site"
elsewhere in the house.
http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm256/stuartwinsor/Tool_board/
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Leon wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 9:59 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>> IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently
>>> went from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop
>>> is not relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your
>>> shop is dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most
>>> importantly how much and how big your projects are. I can just now
>>> comfortably build a large piece of furniture and or large sections
>>> of furniture and still have room to move around. I hope I never
>>> have to go smaller.
>>
>> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze
>> - I thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>>
>
> A paint brush does not need much room to function.
No... but doesn't the wife need room to "move around" while she's painting
with that brush?
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Bill Gill wrote:
>
> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
> and convenience any day.
>
You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am expressing
as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more area
to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
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On 3/19/2012 5:17 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 3:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 11:36 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>>> what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
>>> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
>>> corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
>>
>> The building itself is 18 x 18 ... much too small for a woodshop ... at
>> least much too small for what I do in, and to, a woodshop.
>>
>> Those pictures are of moving back into that space after it was
>> retrofitted, and after being in a bigger shop for a few years, not an
>> experience I would wish on anyone.
>>
>> That said, if you don't mind banging your shins, pipe clamps gashing
>> your forehead, and ripping your pants on every projection while going
>> from point a to b, you can still get a lot done in smaller. :(
>
> This photo, and the next six, are what a small shop looks like today,
> just after being cleaned up from a big desk project last week, and on
> the tail end of the bits and pieces of a kitchen remodel over the weekend:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5721727528280404290
>
>
cool. thanks for the answers and pictures. Is that TS fence solely
supported from the one end?
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Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Bill Gill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the
>> wall and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more
>> space I put up a piece of plywood.
>>
> Yep, I do similar things. In the garage, NOT in the house, I just
> take some pine boards and screw it to the studs with deck screws. That
> gives me lots of area and something strong enough to put in big
> screw hooks and support some weight.
I do that for heavy stuff, or for large stuff, but I sure do love my peg
board for everything else.
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On 3/19/2012 11:30 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/19/12 11:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Bill Gill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>>>
>>>> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a
>>>> ton of
>>>> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>> and convenience any day.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>
> I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the board
> so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall. And it
> seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board, there's
> something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up enough to come
> off.
Every time I've ever moved shops, I swore I would not use pegboard
again. That sentiment has never lasted past the first day. It's just too
fast and easy for some things.
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-MIKE- wrote:
>
> I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the
> board so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall.
> And it seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board,
> there's something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up
> enough to come off.
You guys are using cheap pegs. 1/3 of my garage is peg board and it hangs
everything you can imagine. I never have pegs pull out when I remove a
tool, and I love that I can reconfigure at will. Sometimes a peg will tilt
when I pull a certain type of tool off, but that's because I catch the peg
with the tool. That same tool would hang up on a screw or a nail if I
pulled it off the same way. That said - the peg does not pull out. You
have to get good pegs - just like everything else. For me - I use nothing
but FESTOOL pegs...
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On 3/19/2012 3:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 11:36 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
>> what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
>> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
>> corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
>
> The building itself is 18 x 18 ... much too small for a woodshop ... at
> least much too small for what I do in, and to, a woodshop.
>
> Those pictures are of moving back into that space after it was
> retrofitted, and after being in a bigger shop for a few years, not an
> experience I would wish on anyone.
>
> That said, if you don't mind banging your shins, pipe clamps gashing
> your forehead, and ripping your pants on every projection while going
> from point a to b, you can still get a lot done in smaller. :(
This photo, and the next six, are what a small shop looks like today,
just after being cleaned up from a big desk project last week, and on
the tail end of the bits and pieces of a kitchen remodel over the weekend:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5721727528280404290
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Jack, does the mortiser need the earmuffs? 8>)
On 3/20/2012 11:08 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 9:13 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Bill Gill wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>>> and convenience any day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am
>>> expressing
>>> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
>>> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
>>> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more
>>> area
>>> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>>>
>> Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
>> and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
>> I put up a piece of plywood.
>
> Bill, peg board is a good way to go to hang stuff on walls. Buy good
> pegs that don't pull out and you are in like Flynn. The functionality
> and convenience far surpasses nails in the wall. Everyone here that
> thinks pegboard sucks because the pegs pull out use the wrong pegs.
>
> Apparently only me, Mike and every hardware store on earth use the right
> style pegs... go figure. If it's too ugly for you, paint it, yellow or
> pink or something you like, or buy it prefinished. Also, as referenced
> in my prior post, you can make your own brackets for clamps, chisels,
> screwdrivers and so on with l screws and scrap wood, and they don't pull
> out either.
>
> This picture shows both a homemade chisel holder and a store bought
> screwdriver holder, neither will pull out.
>
> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack1.jpg
>
> This one shows some of the flexibility, holding everything from small
> tools like pliers and ratchets to bar clamps, drywall square and saws.
>
> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack2.jpg
>
> One of the nice things about peg board is it is easy to move stuff
> around, add new things and so on and it's cheap.
On 3/19/2012 9:59 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently
>> went from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop
>> is not relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your
>> shop is dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most
>> importantly how much and how big your projects are. I can just now
>> comfortably build a large piece of furniture and or large sections of
>> furniture and still have room to move around. I hope I never have to
>> go smaller.
>
> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze - I
> thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>
Four inch brush for the body, two inch brush for the derails.
On 3/19/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 9:59 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>> IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently
>>>> went from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop
>>>> is not relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your
>>>> shop is dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most
>>>> importantly how much and how big your projects are. I can just now
>>>> comfortably build a large piece of furniture and or large sections
>>>> of furniture and still have room to move around. I hope I never
>>>> have to go smaller.
>>>
>>> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze
>>> - I thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>>>
>>
>> A paint brush does not need much room to function.
>
> No... but doesn't the wife need room to "move around" while she's painting
> with that brush?
>
Where you from, Mike???
Women don't paint with brushes.
They pain with spray cans...
"Steve B" <[email protected]> writes:
>I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
>racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
>organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
>under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
>****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
>made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
make the board wider than necessary to start, drill the appropriately sized
holes, then rip the board to open up the holes as required.
scott
You would be surprised how nice peg board can be. See binaries. You can
make your own racks, and straighten out L hooks to hang them. I also use
ply on my walls. But the peg board serves me great. The black clips hold
everything firm, so no dropped clips.
On 3/18/2012 11:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
> racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
> organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
> under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
> ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
> made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
> then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
> with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
> shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that
> I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
> it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
> the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
On 3/19/2012 4:20 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 3:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I am going to these, put them anywhere and put most anything on them.
>>
>> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=48515&cat=1,43326
>
> Yeah, buddy! You like mine, eh?
>
> I have four of them. Just don't put a table saw blade on one ... it'll
> take two hands, and a crowbar, to get it off.
>
I like yours and mine. I got one for Christmas and I probably need a
couple more.
On 3/19/2012 9:59 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently
>> went from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop
>> is not relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your
>> shop is dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most
>> importantly how much and how big your projects are. I can just now
>> comfortably build a large piece of furniture and or large sections of
>> furniture and still have room to move around. I hope I never have to
>> go smaller.
>
> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze - I
> thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>
A paint brush does not need much room to function.
On 3/21/2012 10:54 AM, Jack wrote:
>
> My first car was a 49 Dodge pick up my uncle gave me when I was 14. He
Mine was a 49 Willy's Jeepster, with a rag top, and a wolf with long
fangs painted on the continental kit.
It got up to a lot of no good ...
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Steve B wrote:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
> racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
> organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
> under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
> ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
> made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
> then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
> with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
> shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that
> I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
> it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
snip 8><
If you want slots, you could rip off 1/2 inch from the front of the
board, cut out the slots with a jig saw or bandsaw then glue the front
back on.
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revision.
On 3/19/2012 4:43 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 5:17 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 3:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/19/2012 11:36 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>>> what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
>>>> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
>>>> corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
>>>
>>> The building itself is 18 x 18 ... much too small for a woodshop ... at
>>> least much too small for what I do in, and to, a woodshop.
>>>
>>> Those pictures are of moving back into that space after it was
>>> retrofitted, and after being in a bigger shop for a few years, not an
>>> experience I would wish on anyone.
>>>
>>> That said, if you don't mind banging your shins, pipe clamps gashing
>>> your forehead, and ripping your pants on every projection while going
>>> from point a to b, you can still get a lot done in smaller. :(
>>
>> This photo, and the next six, are what a small shop looks like today,
>> just after being cleaned up from a big desk project last week, and on
>> the tail end of the bits and pieces of a kitchen remodel over the
>> weekend:
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5721727528280404290
>>
>>
>>
>
> cool. thanks for the answers and pictures. Is that TS fence solely
> supported from the one end?
Yep ... that's the way the Delta UniFence is designed. This one has an
additional after-market "fence" that makes it similar to the Bei in jig
versatility.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
Richard wrote:
>
> Where you from, Mike???
>
> Women don't paint with brushes.
> They pain with spray cans...
Central NY - where we keep our wimin bound to paint rollers, not spray cans.
You progressives...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mar 19, 12:36=A0pm, Steve Barker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 12:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>
> > On 3/19/2012 10:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> >> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>
> > I use Alligator Board (metal "pegboard") ... advantages of pegboard,
> > without most of the hassle, like accessories/hangers that screw in, so
> > they don't move.
>
> >https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2...
>
> what are the dimensions of your shop? =A0I am eventually gonna setup a
> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
> corner. =A015x20. =A0Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
>
> --
> Steve Barker
> remove the "not" from my address to email
Steve, that area of Karl's shop is just for picture taking. There's
never any sawdust, scattered about, to show that he actually does any
woodworking.
Sonny
Leon wrote:
> IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently
> went from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop
> is not relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your
> shop is dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most
> importantly how much and how big your projects are. I can just now
> comfortably build a large piece of furniture and or large sections of
> furniture and still have room to move around. I hope I never have to
> go smaller.
How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze - I
thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> Ditto. The pegs always come out when you remove a tool, spiders get
> behind them, they look ugly, they break easily, etc.
>
The pegs only come out if you use the cheap pegs. Get the good stuff - it
works. Spiders... target practice.
> And they're soooooo '40s!
Yeah... ain't it cool?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:13:14 -0500, Bill Gill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill Gill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>> and convenience any day.
>>>
>>
>> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am expressing
>> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
>> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
>> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more area
>> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>>
>Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
>and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
>I put up a piece of plywood.
Instead of drywall, one should use 3/4 OSB for wall interiors in
shops. Then anything can be hung anywhere. Put insulation behind it
and you're doubly blessed.
--
When you are kind to someone in trouble, you hope they'll remember
and be kind to someone else. And it'll become like a wildfire.
-- Whoopi Goldberg
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:44:17 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3/19/2012 5:35 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> And they're soooooo '40s!
>
>Hell, so am I.
<g> Having pegboard in a decent shop is like selling HF tools right
next to Festools in a store. It just isn't _done_!
--
When you are kind to someone in trouble, you hope they'll remember
and be kind to someone else. And it'll become like a wildfire.
-- Whoopi Goldberg
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:32:32 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:44:17 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/19/2012 5:35 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> And they're soooooo '40s!
>>>
>>> Hell, so am I.
>>
>> <g> Having pegboard in a decent shop is like selling HF tools right
>> next to Festools in a store. It just isn't _done_!
>
>Stop it Larry! That just ain't right.
Read it and weep, sucka. <g>
--
When you are kind to someone in trouble, you hope they'll remember
and be kind to someone else. And it'll become like a wildfire.
-- Whoopi Goldberg
Steve B wrote:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
> racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
> organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
> under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
> ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
> made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
> then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
> with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
> shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole?
Maybe a rasp and/or file will be adequate?
Or maybe a mortiser (j/k)!
The materials for this job are cheap. If you are not satisfied with the
way it comes out the first time, do it the hard way.
Bill
More work, but fun stuff that
> I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
> it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
> the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
On 3/18/2012 11:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
> racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
> organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
> under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
> ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
> made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
> then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
> with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
> shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that
> I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
> it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
> the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
I don't know what others may say, but as for me the cost of custom
hangers is not justified. You can go down to the local hardware or big
box store and buy all of the pegboard hangers you would want for about
40 dollars.
While you may say 40 dollars is a lot, the materials and time you spend
on making the fittings is much more that the 40 dollars.
To answer you question you are looking for a spiral cut bit. With this
bit you can make all kinds of neat side ways cuts. While they are
available for standard routers, they are also available for the Dremmel
which is easier to control for detail.
Looking at what I originally said you could buy a Dremmel and the spiral
cutting bit and happily making neat cuts until you ran out of stuff to cut.
On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
and convenience any day.
Bill
On 3/19/2012 10:06 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>
>> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
>> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>
> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
> and convenience any day.
>
> Bill
>
I generally prefer drywall screws, which can (more easily) be added and
removed, without knocking off any of the tools that are already hanging.
When I have a tool that might be damaged by the threads, I cut a piece
of thin metal tubing (whose diameter is slightly smaller than the head
of a drywall screw) to act as a metal "dowel". I hold that into the
board with a screw, and sometimes a washer to keep the tool from falling
off. I used a piece of larger (plumbing) tubing with a really large
washer on the the end to hold a bench plane on the board. (it's held by
its handle)
On 3/18/2012 11:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
> I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever)
> racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things
> organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination
> under control ............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and
> ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be
> made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed slot.
Here is a pic of my workbench back board that is made of 1 x4 or close
to that:
http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack.jpg
The bench is about 8' long and has lots of holes for screwdrivers and
what not. I would not use it for roomy things like pliers.
My garage already had 1/4" pegboard on two walls, and that holds a ton
of stuff. For pliers, chisels, C-clamps etc. You can easily make your
own pegboard racks with scrap wood. Here is a Woodsmith link for some
ideas, I made both the chisel rack, the c-clamp rack and they are great.
http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/211/pegboardrack.pdf
Regular pegs for peg board are not so hot as they fall out easily, but
they make a variety of styles that do not pull out. Peg board is ideal
for this task as it is both functional and flexible.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes,
> then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router
> with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide
> shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that
> I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like
> it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
> the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote
> I went with slatwall for part of my tool organization. The slat wall
> itself isn't all that cheap, but it isn't all that expensive either.
> Menards carries it for around $40 a sheet. The hooks are available in
> large quantities cheaply, especially the single hooks. I got a box of 96
> for around $35.
>
> Puckdropper
I used to work conventions in Las Vegas. We got all the slatwall and
gridwall we could take home after some conventions. Ah, wish I had taken
more, but at the time, I was elbow deep in it, and thought I'd never use
what I did have.
Handy stuff.
Steve
On 3/19/12 11:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Bill Gill<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>>
>>> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
>>> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>> and convenience any day.
>>
>> Bill
>
> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the board
so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall. And it
seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board, there's
something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up enough to come
off.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or whatever) racks
>for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping things organized.
>(Something I've been wanting to do once I get my procrastination under control
>............) But, some things, like pliers and chisels and ****'s don't have a
>round shaft. I need to have some slots, like would be made by three or more holes
>in a row. Or a routed slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three holes, then
> use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up my router with a fence
> and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit with guide shaft to make a nice
> rounded shouldered hole? More work, but fun stuff that I like to do, and the
> results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure like it to
> look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with the wood
> pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of crap I
> need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
To directly answer your question (Gasp! What a concept around here), yes,
it's called a drill saw.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_299830-67702-728127.0_?PL=1&productId=1208829
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-saw-drill-bit-set-42804.html
I use these for the majority of my screwdrivers, pliers, etc. I got mine at HF
for much less but I don't see them on their website right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Akro-Mils-8024-Plastic-Mounted-Holder/dp/B00002N7NI
Art
On 3/19/2012 8:17 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 6:22 PM, Max wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" wrote
>> On 3/19/2012 4:43 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>>> cool. thanks for the answers and pictures. Is that TS fence solely
>>>> supported from the one end?
>>
>>> Yep ... that's the way the Delta UniFence is designed. This one has an
>>> additional after-market "fence" that makes it similar to the Bei in
>>> jig versatility.
>>
>> www.eWoodShop.com
>> Last update: 4/15/2010
>> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
>> http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
>>
>> Where did you get the "aftermarket fence"?
>> I want one. ;-)
>
> It's called the "Uni-T-Fence Table Saw Fence":
>
> http://www.ttrackusa.com/unifence.htm
>
> I've had mine about ten years and would replace it in a heartbeat.
>
> It is drop dead easy to change between it and the OEM fence, and is arguably
> more jig friendly than the Beis, particularly when mounting sacrificial fences,
> which is something I do quite often when dadoing end panels in cabinets.
>
> Absolutely one of the best $100 investments I've made in versatile woodworking
> components.
I have the same rig and it's very nice indeed.
I see that with the new Unisaws Delta has decided to stop offering the
Unifence. A damn shame if you ask me.
--
"Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
To reply, eat the taco.
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On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Bill Gill wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>> and convenience any day.
>>
>
> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am expressing
> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more area
> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>
Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
I put up a piece of plywood.
Bill
On 3/20/2012 9:13 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill Gill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>> and convenience any day.
>>>
>>
>> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am expressing
>> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
>> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
>> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more
>> area
>> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>>
> Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
> and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
> I put up a piece of plywood.
Bill, peg board is a good way to go to hang stuff on walls. Buy good
pegs that don't pull out and you are in like Flynn. The functionality
and convenience far surpasses nails in the wall. Everyone here that
thinks pegboard sucks because the pegs pull out use the wrong pegs.
Apparently only me, Mike and every hardware store on earth use the right
style pegs... go figure. If it's too ugly for you, paint it, yellow or
pink or something you like, or buy it prefinished. Also, as referenced
in my prior post, you can make your own brackets for clamps, chisels,
screwdrivers and so on with l screws and scrap wood, and they don't pull
out either.
This picture shows both a homemade chisel holder and a store bought
screwdriver holder, neither will pull out.
http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack1.jpg
This one shows some of the flexibility, holding everything from small
tools like pliers and ratchets to bar clamps, drywall square and saws.
http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack2.jpg
One of the nice things about peg board is it is easy to move stuff
around, add new things and so on and it's cheap.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 3/20/2012 11:26 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Jack, does the mortiser need the earmuffs? 8>)
Well, if it does, it could probably use a dust mask too! ; )
>> This one shows some of the flexibility, holding everything from small
>> tools like pliers and ratchets to bar clamps, drywall square and saws.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack2.jpg
>>
>> One of the nice things about peg board is it is easy to move stuff
>> around, add new things and so on and it's cheap.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>>
>> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze - I
>> thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>>
>
> A paint brush does not need much room to function.
A broom does well if you have time constraints .............. Get the one
with the fine bristles..............
Steve
>> I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the
>> board so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall.
>> And it seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board,
>> there's something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up
>> enough to come off.
Nothing works perfectly. And if I need to put up with a hook falling off
here and there, I can cope. Get out the hot glue gun. Smaller solutions
have solved much bigger problems.
Steve
On 3/20/2012 11:55 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 11:26 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Jack, does the mortiser need the earmuffs? 8>)
>
> Well, if it does, it could probably use a dust mask too! ; )
Nope. Only need the ear muffs when sanding with my cheap ass ROS and
have my cheap ass shop vac sucking up the dust. I get no noticeable
dust and need no dust mask when the shop vac is running.
I don't like sanding with my central dust collection system as too much
dust powder makes to my filters, so I generally use the noisy Shop Vac,
which is quieter than a Festering vac when used with the ear muffs.
>
>>> This one shows some of the flexibility, holding everything from small
>>> tools like pliers and ratchets to bar clamps, drywall square and saws.
>>>
>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack2.jpg
>>>
>>> One of the nice things about peg board is it is easy to move stuff
>>> around, add new things and so on and it's cheap.
>
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 3/20/2012 12:19 PM, Steve B wrote:
> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>>>
>>> How in the hell do you guys paint cars in such small garages? Geeze - I
>>> thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas...
>>>
>>
>> A paint brush does not need much room to function.
My first car was a 49 Dodge pick up my uncle gave me when I was 14. He
had painted it with dark green house paint and a paint brush. It looked
better than you would expect.
My oldest brother once painted my dads 49 Ford with an electrolux vacuum
cleaner and a spray painting attachment. Looked ok except the color was
some sort of really ugly powder blue.
>
> A broom does well if you have time constraints .............. Get the one
> with the fine bristles..............
>
> Steve
>
>
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 3/20/2012 11:26 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Jack, does the mortiser need the earmuffs? 8>)
Only when I use my 40 year old shop vac:-)
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
> On 3/20/2012 11:08 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 3/20/2012 9:13 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
>>> On 3/19/2012 9:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Bill Gill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>>>> and convenience any day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are absolutyl right - just preference. And that's all I am
>>>> expressing
>>>> as well. For me - I certainly prefer pegboard. For all the reasons you
>>>> just listed. I can move things around as needed, with ease. I really do
>>>> agree - it's a preference thing, but I do like peg board. So much more
>>>> area
>>>> to hang stuff on than just relying on where studs are.
>>>>
>>> Well, I don't just rely on studs. I put a piece of 1X4 up on the wall
>>> and can hang them any where along the length. If I need more space
>>> I put up a piece of plywood.
>>
>> Bill, peg board is a good way to go to hang stuff on walls. Buy good
>> pegs that don't pull out and you are in like Flynn. The functionality
>> and convenience far surpasses nails in the wall. Everyone here that
>> thinks pegboard sucks because the pegs pull out use the wrong pegs.
>>
>> Apparently only me, Mike and every hardware store on earth use the right
>> style pegs... go figure. If it's too ugly for you, paint it, yellow or
>> pink or something you like, or buy it prefinished. Also, as referenced
>> in my prior post, you can make your own brackets for clamps, chisels,
>> screwdrivers and so on with l screws and scrap wood, and they don't pull
>> out either.
>>
>> This picture shows both a homemade chisel holder and a store bought
>> screwdriver holder, neither will pull out.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack1.jpg
>>
>> This one shows some of the flexibility, holding everything from small
>> tools like pliers and ratchets to bar clamps, drywall square and saws.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/BenchBack2.jpg
>>
>> One of the nice things about peg board is it is easy to move stuff
>> around, add new things and so on and it's cheap.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 3/21/2012 1:12 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 10:54 AM, Jack wrote:
>> My first car was a 49 Dodge pick up my uncle gave me when I was 14. He
>
> Mine was a 49 Willy's Jeepster, with a rag top, and a wolf with long
> fangs painted on the continental kit.
Like this:
http://local.aaca.org/florida/49%20Jeepster%206x10.jpg
> It got up to a lot of no good ...
Cars are like that, trucks not so much, but workable:-)
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> On 3/21/2012 1:12 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/21/2012 10:54 AM, Jack wrote:
>
>>> My first car was a 49 Dodge pick up my uncle gave me when I was 14. He
>>
>> Mine was a 49 Willy's Jeepster, with a rag top, and a wolf with long
>> fangs painted on the continental kit.
>
> Like this:
>
> http://local.aaca.org/florida/49%20Jeepster%206x10.jpg
>
>> It got up to a lot of no good ...
>
> Cars are like that, trucks not so much, but workable:-)
>
> --
> Jack
> Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
> http://jbstein.com
Jeepsters were cool. A friend of mine put a 350 in one, and had trouble
keeping front ends under it because of wheelying. It was one hairy ride.
And one that I would not like to do regularly.
Steve
On 3/19/2012 12:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 10:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>
> I use Alligator Board (metal "pegboard") ... advantages of pegboard,
> without most of the hassle, like accessories/hangers that screw in, so
> they don't move.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5625196966540508658
>
>
what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
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On 3/19/2012 7:26 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 8:17 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 6:22 PM, Max wrote:
>>> Where did you get the "aftermarket fence"?
>>> I want one. ;-)
>>
>> It's called the "Uni-T-Fence Table Saw Fence":
>>
>> http://www.ttrackusa.com/unifence.htm
> I have the same rig and it's very nice indeed.
>
> I see that with the new Unisaws Delta has decided to stop offering the
> Unifence. A damn shame if you ask me.
MBA's strike again ...
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On 3/19/2012 11:36 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 12:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 10:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>>
>> I use Alligator Board (metal "pegboard") ... advantages of pegboard,
>> without most of the hassle, like accessories/hangers that screw in, so
>> they don't move.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5625196966540508658
>>
>>
>>
>
> what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
> corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
The building itself is 18 x 18 ... much too small for a woodshop ... at
least much too small for what I do in, and to, a woodshop.
Those pictures are of moving back into that space after it was
retrofitted, and after being in a bigger shop for a few years, not an
experience I would wish on anyone.
That said, if you don't mind banging your shins, pipe clamps gashing
your forehead, and ripping your pants on every projection while going
from point a to b, you can still get a lot done in smaller. :(
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On 3/19/2012 2:30 PM, Sonny wrote:
> Steve, that area of Karl's shop is just for picture taking. There's
> never any sawdust, scattered about, to show that he actually does any
> woodworking.
:)
The true measure of the amount of woodworking that goes on around here
can best be dipsticked by the dozen or so, sweat encrusted t-shirts that
go through the laundry every week ... which is also strangely
proportional to the bank account balance at any given time ... mostly
anyway. ;)
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Bill Gill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>>
>> > Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
>> > crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>> > Steve
>>
>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>> and convenience any day.
>>
>
>I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
Ditto. The pegs always come out when you remove a tool, spiders get
behind them, they look ugly, they break easily, etc.
And they're soooooo '40s!
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and be kind to someone else. And it'll become like a wildfire.
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On 3/19/2012 6:22 PM, Max wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote
> On 3/19/2012 4:43 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>>> cool. thanks for the answers and pictures. Is that TS fence solely
>>> supported from the one end?
>
>> Yep ... that's the way the Delta UniFence is designed. This one has an
>> additional after-market "fence" that makes it similar to the Bei in
>> jig versatility.
>
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> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
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>
> Where did you get the "aftermarket fence"?
> I want one. ;-)
It's called the "Uni-T-Fence Table Saw Fence":
http://www.ttrackusa.com/unifence.htm
I've had mine about ten years and would replace it in a heartbeat.
It is drop dead easy to change between it and the OEM fence, and is
arguably more jig friendly than the Beis, particularly when mounting
sacrificial fences, which is something I do quite often when dadoing end
panels in cabinets.
Absolutely one of the best $100 investments I've made in versatile
woodworking components.
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:06:15 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 3/19/2012 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/19/12 11:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Bill Gill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a
>>>>> ton of
>>>>> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>>> and convenience any day.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>>
>> I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the board
>> so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall. And it
>> seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board, there's
>> something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up enough to come
>> off.
>>
>
>I am going to these, put them anywhere and put most anything on them.
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=48515&cat=1,43326
I tried magnets and dropped them very quickly. I do metalworking, too,
so little pieces of sharp swarf covered all my tools quickly since
they were magnetized by the action of storing them on magnetic strips.
NO MO! It didn't matter how well I cleaned, the magnets found the
missing bits and they bit me.
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and be kind to someone else. And it'll become like a wildfire.
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On 3/19/2012 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/19/12 11:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Bill Gill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 3/18/2012 10:40 PM, Steve B wrote:
>>>
>>>> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a
>>>> ton of
>>>> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Ok, just my preference. I don't like pegboard. I actually prefer
>>> to just use nails. They can be driven in and removed as needed.
>>> They might not look all that fancy, but I will take functionality
>>> and convenience any day.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>
> I'm in that ship. You definitely have to tie down the pegs to the board
> so they don't fall off every time you take a tool off the wall. And it
> seems like every time you go to lift a peg off the board, there's
> something in the way above it, keeping it from lifting up enough to come
> off.
>
>
>
I am going to these, put them anywhere and put most anything on them.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=48515&cat=1,43326
On 3/19/2012 12:36 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
> On 3/19/2012 12:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 10:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
>>
>> I use Alligator Board (metal "pegboard") ... advantages of pegboard,
>> without most of the hassle, like accessories/hangers that screw in, so
>> they don't move.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5625196966540508658
>>
>>
>>
>
> what are the dimensions of your shop? I am eventually gonna setup a
> space inside my 30x40 storage barn and am thinking of a 1/4 of it in a
> corner. 15x20. Is this space you're setup in bigger than that?
>
IIRC Swingman is squeezed into about a 1.75 car garage. I recently went
from a 2 car to 3 car garage, approximately 600 sq ft. My shop is not
relatively easy to work in. Take in mind the size of your shop is
dependent on the amount of equipment you have and most importantly how
much and how big your projects are. I can just now comfortably build a
large piece of furniture and or large sections of furniture and still
have room to move around. I hope I never have to go smaller.
For pliers ect. I stretch a coor closeing spring sideways, and with a center
hook for support, has worked for me for 40 yrs.
"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I am making a work bench backboard. I want to make some 1 x 4 (or
>whatever) racks for screwdrivers, etc, for fast easy grabbing and keeping
>things organized. (Something I've been wanting to do once I get my
>procrastination under control ............) But, some things, like pliers
>and chisels and ****'s don't have a round shaft. I need to have some
>slots, like would be made by three or more holes in a row. Or a routed
>slot.
>
> Is there a wood bit made for side cutting specifically? Drill three
> holes, then use the side cutting edges to round out? Or should I set up
> my router with a fence and stops to cut the slots, then use a rounding bit
> with guide shaft to make a nice rounded shouldered hole? More work, but
> fun stuff that I like to do, and the results are worth it, IMHO.
>
> I don't need it to look like Grandma's black cherry hutch, but I'd sure
> like it to look nice like it wasn't made with a rusty chisel and warped
> sawzall.
>
> I do welding, so can easily make some ornamental metal brackets to go with
> the wood pieces.
>
> Other ideas for tool organizers for the wall or pegboard? I got a ton of
> crap I need to mount so I can find it when needed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
On 3/19/2012 10:58 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> I thoroughly dislike pegboard. It's awful stuff.
I use Alligator Board (metal "pegboard") ... advantages of pegboard,
without most of the hassle, like accessories/hangers that screw in, so
they don't move.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011#5625196966540508658
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