I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am working
in walnut, and it is even worse.
I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it burns;
which is better than chipping, but not much.
I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end, but
that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
Any practical ideas? Thanks.
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
> I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
working
> in walnut, and it is even worse.
>
> I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
> Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it burns;
> which is better than chipping, but not much.
>
> I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
but
> that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
>
> Any practical ideas? Thanks.
In addition to the other suggestions posted already, make sure your router
bits themselves are kept sharp.
Dull bits = more chance of chipout.
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"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> are you making multiple passes removing a little at a time?
>
Yes, three passes for a 3/8x3/8 rabbet. Each pass tears. I guess I will
have to try a backer board!
Use a scrap backer-board. It should be same dimensions as workpiece.
See: http://www.patwarner.com/
Tons of info there.
-JBB
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
> I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
working
> in walnut, and it is even worse.
>
> I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
> Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it burns;
> which is better than chipping, but not much.
>
> I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
but
> that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
>
> Any practical ideas? Thanks.
>
>
I didn't know what a climb cut was, so I did a google search. The first two
references said it is dangerous without a powerfeed.
Having tried it without knowing it had a name, guessing it might help, I
think I agree. I can easily picture the piece of wood flying into my face
pretty fast.
So, a backerboard...
"Preston Andreas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I route the endgrain first. The pass down the next side takes away the
> chipping. Also, you can start with a climb cut on the end grain or use a
> backer board. Having a quality, sharp bit also helps a lot.
>
> Preston
> "Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
> > I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
> working
> > in walnut, and it is even worse.
> >
> > I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
> > Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it
burns;
> > which is better than chipping, but not much.
> >
> > I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
> but
> > that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
> >
> > Any practical ideas? Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
Same here. Works well.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can use a backer board to reinforce the end grain but I always start
at
> the end and route backwards a bit.
>
I route the endgrain first. The pass down the next side takes away the
chipping. Also, you can start with a climb cut on the end grain or use a
backer board. Having a quality, sharp bit also helps a lot.
Preston
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
> I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
working
> in walnut, and it is even worse.
>
> I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
> Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it burns;
> which is better than chipping, but not much.
>
> I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
but
> that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
>
> Any practical ideas? Thanks.
>
>
climb cutting IS dangerous. I do it on purpose on the router table as a
trick I learned for easily doing dovetails. by marking all four pieces
of a drawer and keeping the same edge towards the router fence, you
don't have to be within a few thousandths of exact center when you
"center" the bit for adjusting the dovetail template. Just hold on for
dear life when climb cutting. I was doing that last night and this
morning. When I climb cut the pin boards I use a stop about 1/8" behind
the router bit to limit the cut. It would be much too dangerous without
the stop.
Wade Lippman wrote:
> I didn't know what a climb cut was, so I did a google search. The first two
> references said it is dangerous without a powerfeed.
> Having tried it without knowing it had a name, guessing it might help, I
> think I agree. I can easily picture the piece of wood flying into my face
> pretty fast.
> So, a backerboard...
>
> "Preston Andreas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I route the endgrain first. The pass down the next side takes away the
>>chipping. Also, you can start with a climb cut on the end grain or use a
>>backer board. Having a quality, sharp bit also helps a lot.
>>
>>Preston
>>"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
>>>I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
>>
>>working
>>
>>>in walnut, and it is even worse.
>>>
>>>I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
>>>Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it
>
> burns;
>
>>>which is better than chipping, but not much.
>>>
>>>I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
>>
>>but
>>
>>>that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
>>>
>>>Any practical ideas? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
As others suggest climb cut about an inch on end grain.
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:45:09 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes, three passes for a 3/8x3/8 rabbet. Each pass tears. I guess I will
>have to try a backer board!
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:55:51 GMT, "J.B. Bobbitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Use a scrap backer-board. It should be same dimensions as workpiece.
>
That's exactly how I'd do it. Setup might be time-consuming but no
chip out.
You can use a backer board to reinforce the end grain but I always start at
the end and route backwards a bit.
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am getting bad chip out when routing the ends on cabinet door frames.
> I am getting really sick of it. I thought oak was bad, but now I am
working
> in walnut, and it is even worse.
>
> I have tried hitting the end first, but that doesn't help.
> Going real real real slow at the end does minimize it, but then it burns;
> which is better than chipping, but not much.
>
> I have thought of ganging the pieces and putting some scrap on the end,
but
> that seem dangerous because they don't have flat sides.
>
> Any practical ideas? Thanks.
>
>