JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

23/09/2003 12:59 AM

I THINK I'VE FOUND MY STAIN

I've been doing some projects, and thinking I wanted some stain, to
make the wood look like it had been used a long time. Not distressed, I
don't believe in cruelty to wood. Just the look you get from a piece of
wood, that's been in an old factory, for a hundred or so years. So I
thought stain would be the way to go.

I'm trying to lean toward easy clean up stuff, water base poly,
latex, etc., and didn't care to use any of the commercial stains. Had
tried coffee and tea, but they didn't do what I was after.

Then today I saw some hickory nuts that had dropped beside my
driveway. Viola. I don't have black walnut trees, but sure as Hell
have hickory trees. I knew walnut husks were used for stains and dyes,
why not hickory? Turns out, yes, hickory husks are used. But, no
instructions on how. Dug more, several sources said make it same as
walnut. Hmm, OK. Dug deeper. Then found this site.
http://www.bright.net/~basketc/staining.html

I think that pretty well covers any questions I had. Altho,
another site did recommend using cheap vodka. Pouring it over the
husks, instead of ammonia or water.

So, tomorrow, after I get the truck brakes worked on, I shall be
gathering some hickory nuts. I'm thinking no ammonia, probably just
water, maybe with a shot of vinegar.

JOAT
The whole of life is a learning process.
- John Keel

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 22 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/


This topic has 21 replies

AM

Alan McClure

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 12:29 PM

I heard it in the 1960's and it wasn't new then.
Spider's character just repeated it.
ARM
untie the nots in my edress

Silvan wrote:

> Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
> >>Calahan's Cross-Time Saloon? Spider Robinson? Damn it's been a long time
> >>since I read that.
> >
> > I dunno. Google gives 912 hits on 'hickory daiquiri doc' --
> > spot-checking failed to turn up _any_ source attribution.
>
> OK, I see a bunch myself, and nobody to attribute it either.
>
> No telling if Spider Robinson was the first one to come up with that, but I
> was first exposed to that punchline in the aforementioned book around 20
> years ago.
>
> --
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AM

Alan McClure

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

25/09/2003 1:35 PM



Silvan wrote:

> Alan McClure wrote:
>
> > I heard it in the 1960's and it wasn't new then.
> > Spider's character just repeated it.
>
> Oh well. It was still a good book. :)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> Confirmed post number: 17911 Approximate word count: 537330
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Many years ago, when the crimefighter with the visage of a night flying
mammal and his sidekick, who had the name of a rosy chested bird,
retired their crusade was taken up by the boy child of the caped
crusaders
ward.
This young man used the printed word to fight wrong thinking and the
planning
of mis-deeds. Since his talents were many and always at hand he took on

the appellation of an arachnid.
Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.

ARM
Untie the edress if need be.

AM

Alan McClure

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

26/09/2003 2:25 AM



Robert Bonomi wrote:

>
> >the appellation of an arachnid.
> >Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.
>
> Unfortunately, sometime later, the father, _and_ his mentor, were involved in
> a serious accident. It seems that they were passing a roadway resurfacing
> project, and were inexplicably, and inescapably trapped in the path of a run-
> away steam-roller. Miraculously, they survived the incident, but, henceforth,
> their alter-ego's were known as Flatman and Ribbon.

Not so many years ago a biochemist grew a genetic duplicate of himself.
Unfortunately, the duplicate was born with Turret's Syndrome and could
only talk in four letter (i.e. filthy) words. The biochemist decided to dispose
of his experiment and took his double to Lover's Leap to throw him off.
Of course the scientist was arrested for trying to make an obscene clone fall.

ARM

Tt

TomL

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

23/09/2003 8:57 PM

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:59:57 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) wrote:

>
> So, tomorrow, after I get the truck brakes worked on, I shall be
>gathering some hickory nuts.

Man, I just got this mental image of a guy in denim shorts and work
boots scampering about the meadows filling up his shop apron with
hickory nuts.........



TomL

JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

in reply to TomL on 23/09/2003 8:57 PM

23/09/2003 5:57 PM

Tue, Sep 23, 2003, 8:57pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (TomL) claims:
<snip> Man, I just got this mental image of a guy in denim shorts and
work boots scampering about the meadows filling up his shop apron with
hickory nuts.........

Been skipping your medicine again, I see.

Take a look at the picture of me on my web page. Does that look
like someone who wears shorts, scampers, or wears an apron? Plus, I
don't recall ever seeing a hickory tree in a meadow. Anyway, most
meadows have cows, so you watch where you step, not scamper. Perhaps
you confused me with Bob Villa, one of the three stooges, or your own
fantasy.

I have been known to shoot hickory nuts out of trees, if not enough
fell.

JOAT
The whole of life is a learning process.
- John Keel

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

Tt

TomL

in reply to TomL on 23/09/2003 8:57 PM

24/09/2003 12:38 AM

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:57:23 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) wrote:

>Tue, Sep 23, 2003, 8:57pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (TomL) claims:
><snip> Man, I just got this mental image of a guy in denim shorts and
>work boots scampering about the meadows filling up his shop apron with
>hickory nuts.........
>
> Been skipping your medicine again, I see.
>
> Take a look at the picture of me on my web page. Does that look
>like someone who wears shorts, scampers, or wears an apron? Plus, I
>don't recall ever seeing a hickory tree in a meadow. Anyway, most
>meadows have cows, so you watch where you step, not scamper. Perhaps
>you confused me with Bob Villa, one of the three stooges, or your own
>fantasy.
>
> I have been known to shoot hickory nuts out of trees, if not enough
>fell.
>

OK, so maybe 'scamper' was a poor choice of words......

bR

bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

26/09/2003 1:47 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Alan McClure <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Silvan wrote:
>
>> Alan McClure wrote:
>>
>> > I heard it in the 1960's and it wasn't new then.
>> > Spider's character just repeated it.
>>
>> Oh well. It was still a good book. :)
>>
>> --
>> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
>> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
>> Confirmed post number: 17911 Approximate word count: 537330
>> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
>Many years ago, when the crimefighter with the visage of a night flying
>mammal and his sidekick, who had the name of a rosy chested bird,
>retired their crusade was taken up by the boy child of the caped
>crusaders
>ward.
>This young man used the printed word to fight wrong thinking and the
>planning
>of mis-deeds. Since his talents were many and always at hand he took on
>
>the appellation of an arachnid.
>Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.

Unfortunately, sometime later, the father, _and_ his mentor, were involved in
a serious accident. It seems that they were passing a roadway resurfacing
project, and were inexplicably, and inescapably trapped in the path of a run-
away steam-roller. Miraculously, they survived the incident, but, henceforth,
their alter-ego's were known as Flatman and Ribbon.

jB

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 4:44 PM

Hickory, Doc!

An Engineer, Doc Faraday, made it his regular habit to stop off at a
bar for a hazelnut daiquiri on his way home. The bartender knew of his
habit and would always have the drink waiting at precisely 5.15 p.m.
One afternoon as the end of the workday approached, the bartender was
dismayed to find that he was out of hazelnut extract. Thinking
quickly, he threw together a daiquiri made with hickory nuts and set
it on the bar. The Doc came in at his regular time, took one sip of
the drink and exclaimed, "This is'nt a hazelnut daiquiri". No, I'm
sorry", replied the bartender, "It's a hickory daiquiri, Doc". !

Bryan in Bear,Delaware

WL

"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

23/09/2003 11:47 AM

That hickory makes beautiful flooring!
Wilson
"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been doing some projects, and thinking I wanted some stain, to
> make the wood look like it had been used a long time. Not distressed, I
> don't believe in cruelty to wood. Just the look you get from a piece of
> wood, that's been in an old factory, for a hundred or so years. So I
> thought stain would be the way to go.
>
> I'm trying to lean toward easy clean up stuff, water base poly,
> latex, etc., and didn't care to use any of the commercial stains. Had
> tried coffee and tea, but they didn't do what I was after.
>
> Then today I saw some hickory nuts that had dropped beside my
> driveway. Viola. I don't have black walnut trees, but sure as Hell
> have hickory trees. I knew walnut husks were used for stains and dyes,
> why not hickory? Turns out, yes, hickory husks are used. But, no
> instructions on how. Dug more, several sources said make it same as
> walnut. Hmm, OK. Dug deeper. Then found this site.
> http://www.bright.net/~basketc/staining.html
>
> I think that pretty well covers any questions I had. Altho,
> another site did recommend using cheap vodka. Pouring it over the
> husks, instead of ammonia or water.
>
> So, tomorrow, after I get the truck brakes worked on, I shall be
> gathering some hickory nuts. I'm thinking no ammonia, probably just
> water, maybe with a shot of vinegar.
>
> JOAT
> The whole of life is a learning process.
> - John Keel
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 22 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>

BS

"Bob S."

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

23/09/2003 1:08 PM

JOAT,

Now there's a money-making idea... With all the arts and crafts in that
area and "natural" being the rage, make up a batch of stain, put it in those
little cans or bottles and a label - "JOAT's Natural Hickory Brew"....

Bob S.

JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

in reply to "Bob S." on 23/09/2003 1:08 PM

23/09/2003 10:05 AM

Tue, Sep 23, 2003, 1:08pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bob=A0S.)
says:
<snip> put it in those little cans or bottles and a label - "JOAT's
Natural Hickory Brew"...

This is moonshine country. If I did that someone would probably
read as far as brew, and drink it. Then he'd probably start
hallucinating, and then I'd probably get arrested for making untaxed
brew. No thanks. Besides, wouldn't that be work?

JOAT
The whole of life is a learning process.
- John Keel

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 22 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

bR

bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

26/09/2003 1:49 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Alan McClure wrote:
>
>> the appellation of an arachnid.
>> Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.
>
>Spider would probably smack you for that. :)

After the gender-change surgery.

In fact, they made a movie about it --- Kiss of the spider-woman.

dd

[email protected] (dhmeiser)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 8:37 AM

I believe you want to keep the ammonia in, as there needs to be some
basic (caustic, high pH) material to pull out the colored acids from
the nuts.

Also the longer you let the stuff steep the richer the color will be.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 8:34 PM

Alan McClure wrote:

> I heard it in the 1960's and it wasn't new then.
> Spider's character just repeated it.

Oh well. It was still a good book. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Confirmed post number: 17911 Approximate word count: 537330
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bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

23/09/2003 9:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>JOAT,
>
>Now there's a money-making idea... With all the arts and crafts in that
>area and "natural" being the rage, make up a batch of stain, put it in those
>little cans or bottles and a label - "JOAT's Natural Hickory Brew"....

Why am I reminded of the old punch-line -- "It's a Hickory Daquari, Doc".

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 7:32 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>JOAT,
>>>
>>>Now there's a money-making idea... With all the arts and crafts in that
>>>area and "natural" being the rage, make up a batch of stain, put it in
>>>those little cans or bottles and a label - "JOAT's Natural Hickory
>>>Brew"....
>>
>> Why am I reminded of the old punch-line -- "It's a Hickory Daquari, Doc".
>
>I was thinking the same thing! But daiquiris are made from rum, not vodka.

I knew it was a lousy pun -- didn't realize it was a rum joke, as well.
<groan>

>
>Calahan's Cross-Time Saloon? Spider Robinson? Damn it's been a long time
>since I read that.

I dunno. Google gives 912 hits on 'hickory daiquiri doc' -- spot-checking
failed to turn up _any_ source attribution.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 8:38 AM

Robert Bonomi wrote:

>>Calahan's Cross-Time Saloon? Spider Robinson? Damn it's been a long time
>>since I read that.
>
> I dunno. Google gives 912 hits on 'hickory daiquiri doc' --
> spot-checking failed to turn up _any_ source attribution.

OK, I see a bunch myself, and nobody to attribute it either.

No telling if Spider Robinson was the first one to come up with that, but I
was first exposed to that punchline in the aforementioned book around 20
years ago.

--
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Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

25/09/2003 11:44 PM

Robert Bonomi wrote:

> away steam-roller. Miraculously, they survived the incident, but,
> henceforth, their alter-ego's were known as Flatman and Ribbon.

That's why I hate punsters... You keep doing that, and all I can do is
groan instead of firing back a witty retort. My punny bone is broken.

I can't write songs or poetry either.

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bR

bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

26/09/2003 12:47 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Alan McClure <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>>
>> >the appellation of an arachnid.
>> >Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.
>>
>> Unfortunately, sometime later, the father, _and_ his mentor, were involved in
>> a serious accident. It seems that they were passing a roadway resurfacing
>> project, and were inexplicably, and inescapably trapped in the path of a run-
>> away steam-roller. Miraculously, they survived the incident, but, henceforth,
>> their alter-ego's were known as Flatman and Ribbon.
>
>Not so many years ago a biochemist grew a genetic duplicate of himself.
>Unfortunately, the duplicate was born with Turret's Syndrome and could

Note: it's "Tourette's Syndrome".
>only talk in four letter (i.e. filthy) words. The biochemist decided to dispose
>of his experiment and took his double to Lover's Leap to throw him off.
>Of course the scientist was arrested for trying to make an obscene clone fall.

Speaking of cloning -- a *TRUE* story from my college days: professor was
_apologizing_ for not having the last batch of homework graded and back to
us -- he was utterly swamped with things that had to be done, acting depart-
ment chair, acting _dean_, and half-a-dozen *other* 'extra' duties had all
come to roost with him that quarter. Anyway, he remarked that he was thinking
of getting himself cloned -- that way he *might* be able to get everything
done. A voice comes floating up from the back of the classroom: "But, wouldn't
that be *breeding* inefficiency?" Entire classroom, _including_ the prof,
utterly 'lost it'.

Later on, the prof accused me of authoring that remark. Admittedly, me, and
two of my 'troublemaker' friends _were_ sitting in the back row that day. But
it _wasn't_ us! As I told the prof, "I *wish* I'd thought of it!" I _think_
he believed me. <grin>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

24/09/2003 12:55 AM

Robert Bonomi wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>JOAT,
>>
>>Now there's a money-making idea... With all the arts and crafts in that
>>area and "natural" being the rage, make up a batch of stain, put it in
>>those little cans or bottles and a label - "JOAT's Natural Hickory
>>Brew"....
>
> Why am I reminded of the old punch-line -- "It's a Hickory Daquari, Doc".

I was thinking the same thing! But daiquiris are made from rum, not vodka.

Calahan's Cross-Time Saloon? Spider Robinson? Damn it's been a long time
since I read that.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Confirmed post number: 17897 Approximate word count: 536910
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Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 23/09/2003 12:59 AM

25/09/2003 8:45 PM

Alan McClure wrote:

> the appellation of an arachnid.
> Thus was the persona born, Spider, Robins Son.

Spider would probably smack you for that. :)

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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