Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I want one.
But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking at high end units.
The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've heard too many negatives
about it. HF, pretty much the same, well within my price range, but . . .
I want an inexpensive saw for some occasional resawing and doing curves in
material that the scroll saw can't easily handle. From specifications and
from reading the reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just
fine. What I absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So to
speak.
Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my price
range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra blades!). I
suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much rather pick one up
(I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one shipped. The local Rockler
store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon
10-325.
So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
up at a local store?
thanks, Ralph
Ralph Compton wrote:
> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
> to speak.
> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
>
> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
> able to pick up at a local store?
Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
I wouldn't consider $1000 as "inexpensive" for a 14" saw.
No bandsaw requires (or should require) tweaking to run smoothly. Nor will
any bandsaw play nice without some set up...adjusting guides for current
blade, adjusting tension for current blade, etc.
In all probability, you will need only two blades...
1. 1/2" Wood Slicer for resawing
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer-resaw-bandsaw-blades.aspx
2. 3/16 4 TPI Skip Tooth Bandsaw Blades for curvy stuff.
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/3/16-4-tpi-skiptooth-bandsaw-blades.aspx
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:56:48 -0800, "Ralph Compton"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
>and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
>up at a local store?
>
>thanks, Ralph
Take a look at the Powermatic at your Woodcraft store. This bandsaw
comes with the riser block, Carter quick tension release, gooseneck lamp
and a good fence for your target $1000.
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005243/20930/Powermatic-14-Bandsaw-Model-PWBS14CS.aspx
It will most likely require occasional tweaking of the rollers and
tension like most of the other saws in this price range though.
Bob
On Jan 23, 8:34=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 12:56=A0pm, "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set =
up
> > and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to p=
ick
> > up at a local store?
>
> You have mentioned Grizzly and that is probably a good bet. =A0While my
> band saw is an 18" Jet, I would not hesitate to look at the Grizzly.
> Grizzly used to provide contact info for up to two persons in your are
> who have made a purchase similar to the tool you are considering.
> Also of note is the fact that for years Fine Woodworking would not
> mention Grizzly in their tool reviews. =A0A few years ago the big Griz
> Jointer took top honors; and a recent issue selected two of their band
> saws with top ratings. =A0I own two of their machines (1023s cabinet
> saw, G0453 planer). =A0They are high quality, good performers and their
> service is great. =A0With Griz you might move up to a larger table and
> stay in the $1K range.
>
> RonB
BTW - When I ordered my Grizzly Cabinet saw it was 36 hours from the
time I placed the internet order until the local trucker called for
instructions. That was a shipment from Springfield, MO to Wichita, KS
- about 320 miles. I believe Grizzly has a larger store/warehouse
north of you in Bellingham, WA
RonB
"Ralph Compton" <[email protected]> writes:
>So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
>and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
>up at a local store?
Since you're in LA (Compton? :-), I'd check with Laguna and see if thay have
an LT-14 used or refurbed.
scott
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I want one.
> But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking at high end units.
> The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've heard too many negatives
> about it. HF, pretty much the same, well within my price range, but . . .
> I want an inexpensive saw for some occasional resawing and doing curves in
> material that the scroll saw can't easily handle. From specifications and
> from reading the reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just
> fine. What I absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So to
> speak.
>
> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my price
> range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra blades!). I
> suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much rather pick one up
> (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one shipped. The local Rockler
> store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon
> 10-325.
>
> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
> and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
> up at a local store?
You're looking at the Rikon 10-320 at Sears, so take a look at the
Craftsman Pro 22401 and I think you'll find that they're substantially
the same saw, with the differences being that the Craftsman is a
different color, costs about 5 bucks more, and gives you 8 inch vs 6
inch resaw capacity, which makes it a better deal all around. Mine's
digested everything I've thrown at it and resaws just fine as long as I
have a sharp blade in it and have the tension right. After a while I
did need to replace the guide bearings (it has roller guides) but 25
bucks at the local skate shop took care of that.
One word of advice--take the tension adjustment screw completely out and
wax it or put a dry film lube on it. Until you do that it's almost
immovable when you're getting close to the right tension for resaw.
If you can afford the 10-325 that would be a better option IMO--it gives
you 13" resaw capacity, a tension release, and another half horsepower,
but it's going on twice the price.
The Jets start a hundred bucks or so higher than the Rikon/Craftsman and
I don't see what they bring to the party that makes them worth it.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> While I totally agree with the blade selection, I would like to offer a bit
> of heresy - especially if cash is tight. I have had a Harbor Freight 14"
> bandsaw with the riser blocks (which may no longer be available) and cannot
> complain. Equiped with the WoodSlicer 3/8" blade and "Cool Blocks" it works
> extremely well - for the hobby set. If you can find it on sale, the
> bandsaw and blade will cost you less than $250.00, tax, shipping and all.
Those cast iron saws all seem to be the same saw with different paint
and different accessories. The Harbor Freight is supposed to work with
the Grizzly or Jet riser blocks.
Going the other way, the 17" Grizzly is within the stated price range
and it's going to be a lot more saw than a 14", but the OP wants to buy
it locally.
> dadiOH wrote:
>
> > Ralph Compton wrote:
> >> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
> >> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
> >> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
> >> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
> >> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
> >> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
> >> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
> >> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
> >> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
> >> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
> >> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
> >> to speak.
> >> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
> >> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
> >> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
> >> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
> >> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
> >> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
> >>
> >> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
> >> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
> >> able to pick up at a local store?
> >
> > Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
> > least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
> >
> > I wouldn't consider $1000 as "inexpensive" for a 14" saw.
> >
> > No bandsaw requires (or should require) tweaking to run smoothly. Nor
> > will any bandsaw play nice without some set up...adjusting guides for
> > current blade, adjusting tension for current blade, etc.
> >
> > In all probability, you will need only two blades...
> >
> > 1. 1/2" Wood Slicer for resawing
> > http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer-resaw-bandsaw-blades.aspx
> >
> > 2. 3/16 4 TPI Skip Tooth Bandsaw Blades for curvy stuff.
> > http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/3/16-4-tpi-skiptooth-bandsaw-
> blades.aspx
> >
Compton's my name, not my location. But I'm located not that far away from
Compton (city). Tried to look up Laguna but seems to be a problem with
their site. Will try again.
Ralph
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
>>and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
>>up at a local store?
>
> Since you're in LA (Compton? :-), I'd check with Laguna and see if thay
> have
> an LT-14 used or refurbed.
>
> scott
While I totally agree with the blade selection, I would like to offer a bit
of heresy - especially if cash is tight. I have had a Harbor Freight 14"
bandsaw with the riser blocks (which may no longer be available) and cannot
complain. Equiped with the WoodSlicer 3/8" blade and "Cool Blocks" it works
extremely well - for the hobby set. If you can find it on sale, the
bandsaw and blade will cost you less than $250.00, tax, shipping and all.
Deb
dadiOH wrote:
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
>> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
>> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
>> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
>> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
>> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
>> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
>> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
>> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
>> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
>> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
>> to speak.
>> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
>> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
>> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
>> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
>> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
>> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
>>
>> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
>> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
>> able to pick up at a local store?
>
> Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
> least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
>
> I wouldn't consider $1000 as "inexpensive" for a 14" saw.
>
> No bandsaw requires (or should require) tweaking to run smoothly. Nor
> will any bandsaw play nice without some set up...adjusting guides for
> current blade, adjusting tension for current blade, etc.
>
> In all probability, you will need only two blades...
>
> 1. 1/2" Wood Slicer for resawing
> http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer-resaw-bandsaw-blades.aspx
>
> 2. 3/16 4 TPI Skip Tooth Bandsaw Blades for curvy stuff.
> http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/3/16-4-tpi-skiptooth-bandsaw-
blades.aspx
>
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/22/2011 1:13 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>> Ralph Compton wrote:
>>> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
>>> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
>>> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
>>> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
>>> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
>>> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
>>> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
>>> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
>>> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
>>> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
>>> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
>>> to speak.
>>> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
>>> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
>>> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
>>> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
>>> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
>>> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
>>>
>>> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
>>> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
>>> able to pick up at a local store?
>>
>> Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
>> least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
>
> My dad has an older version (6-8 years maybe) of the Grizzly G0555 and
> I've messed with it quite a bit... I am not impressed. It seems very
> fiddly and kinda flimsy to me, but then again it may just be that I'm used
> to my 16" MiniMax, which is one of those Eye-Tal-iun made behemoths. :-)
>
We totally agree here. LOL I with my Laguna and you with your MiniMax,
Lamborghini and Ferrari of band saws. ;~)
RonB <[email protected]> writes:
>On Jan 23, 8:34=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 12:56=A0pm, "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set =
>up
>> > and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to p=
>ick
>> > up at a local store?
>>
>> You have mentioned Grizzly and that is probably a good bet. =A0While my
>> band saw is an 18" Jet, I would not hesitate to look at the Grizzly.
>> Grizzly used to provide contact info for up to two persons in your are
>> who have made a purchase similar to the tool you are considering.
>> Also of note is the fact that for years Fine Woodworking would not
>> mention Grizzly in their tool reviews. =A0A few years ago the big Griz
>> Jointer took top honors; and a recent issue selected two of their band
>> saws with top ratings. =A0I own two of their machines (1023s cabinet
>> saw, G0453 planer). =A0They are high quality, good performers and their
>> service is great. =A0With Griz you might move up to a larger table and
>> stay in the $1K range.
>>
>> RonB
>
>BTW - When I ordered my Grizzly Cabinet saw it was 36 hours from the
>time I placed the internet order until the local trucker called for
>instructions. That was a shipment from Springfield, MO to Wichita, KS
>- about 320 miles. I believe Grizzly has a larger store/warehouse
>north of you in Bellingham, WA
1225 miles bellingham to LA via I-5. 1613 from springfield to LA.
And it's more like 250 miles springfield to witchita.
scott
On Jan 23, 1:46=A0pm, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> RonB <[email protected]> writes:
> >On Jan 23, 8:34=3DA0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Jan 22, 12:56=3DA0pm, "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to s=
et =3D
> >up
> >> > and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able t=
o p=3D
> >ick
> >> > up at a local store?
>
> >> You have mentioned Grizzly and that is probably a good bet. =3DA0While=
my
> >> band saw is an 18" Jet, I would not hesitate to look at the Grizzly.
> >> Grizzly used to provide contact info for up to two persons in your are
> >> who have made a purchase similar to the tool you are considering.
> >> Also of note is the fact that for years Fine Woodworking would not
> >> mention Grizzly in their tool reviews. =3DA0A few years ago the big Gr=
iz
> >> Jointer took top honors; and a recent issue selected two of their band
> >> saws with top ratings. =3DA0I own two of their machines (1023s cabinet
> >> saw, G0453 planer). =3DA0They are high quality, good performers and th=
eir
> >> service is great. =3DA0With Griz you might move up to a larger table a=
nd
> >> stay in the $1K range.
>
> >> RonB
>
> >BTW - When I ordered my Grizzly Cabinet saw it was 36 hours from the
> >time I placed the internet order until the local trucker called for
> >instructions. =A0That was a shipment from Springfield, MO to Wichita, KS
> >- about 320 miles. =A0I believe Grizzly has a larger store/warehouse
> >north of you in Bellingham, WA
>
> 1225 miles bellingham to LA via I-5. =A01613 from springfield to LA.
>
> And it's more like 250 miles springfield to witchita.
>
> scott
Your are right. 267.49 miles from Wichita to Springfield if you take
the convoluted route Mapquest suggests. I added wrong in my head.
Point?
RonB
I like supporting local merchants, even if it costs a little bit more. And
especially if they have a reputation for quality customer service.
I think I'm going to get the Rikon 10-325 next time it goes on sale at
Woodcraft although this is not etched in wood yet. I'm not in a particular
hurry for any particular reason.
And the price I mention, $1K, would be absolute maximum for out the door and
including spare blades for a quality saw.
Might have to run over to HF and look at their saw again though.
Ralph.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> While I totally agree with the blade selection, I would like to offer a
>> bit
>> of heresy - especially if cash is tight. I have had a Harbor Freight 14"
>> bandsaw with the riser blocks (which may no longer be available) and
>> cannot
>> complain. Equiped with the WoodSlicer 3/8" blade and "Cool Blocks" it
>> works
>> extremely well - for the hobby set. If you can find it on sale, the
>> bandsaw and blade will cost you less than $250.00, tax, shipping and all.
>
> Those cast iron saws all seem to be the same saw with different paint
> and different accessories. The Harbor Freight is supposed to work with
> the Grizzly or Jet riser blocks.
>
> Going the other way, the 17" Grizzly is within the stated price range
> and it's going to be a lot more saw than a 14", but the OP wants to buy
> it locally.
>
>> dadiOH wrote:
>>
>> > Ralph Compton wrote:
>> >> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
>> >> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
>> >> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
>> >> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
>> >> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
>> >> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
>> >> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
>> >> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
>> >> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
>> >> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
>> >> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
>> >> to speak.
>> >> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
>> >> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
>> >> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
>> >> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
>> >> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
>> >> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
>> >>
>> >> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
>> >> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
>> >> able to pick up at a local store?
>> >
>> > Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
>> > least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't consider $1000 as "inexpensive" for a 14" saw.
>> >
>> > No bandsaw requires (or should require) tweaking to run smoothly. Nor
>> > will any bandsaw play nice without some set up...adjusting guides for
>> > current blade, adjusting tension for current blade, etc.
>> >
>> > In all probability, you will need only two blades...
>> >
>> > 1. 1/2" Wood Slicer for resawing
>> > http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer-resaw-bandsaw-blades.aspx
>> >
>> > 2. 3/16 4 TPI Skip Tooth Bandsaw Blades for curvy stuff.
>> > http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/3/16-4-tpi-skiptooth-bandsaw-
>> blades.aspx
>> >
>
>
I totally agree.
I bought a new delta years ago and had enough problems it was my last
new delta purchase... I'll buy used, but not pay for new.
Find an older one.
On 1/22/2011 3:10 PM, Steve B wrote:
> "Ralph Compton"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I want
>> one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking at high end
>> units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've heard too many
>> negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well within my price range,
>> but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some occasional resawing and doing
>> curves in material that the scroll saw can't easily handle. From
>> specifications and from reading the reviews of others I suspect that a 14"
>> will do me just fine. What I absolutely don't want is one that takes a
>> lot of tweaking and adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something
>> that has been engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the
>> box. So to speak.
>>
>> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my price
>> range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra blades!). I
>> suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much rather pick one up
>> (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one shipped. The local
>> Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod 10-320, Woodcraft has the
>> Rikon 10-325.
>>
>> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
>> and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
>> up at a local store?
>>
>> thanks, Ralph
>
> Find a used one and save lots of money.
>
> Steve
>
>
On Jan 22, 12:56=A0pm, "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
> and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pic=
k
> up at a local store?
You have mentioned Grizzly and that is probably a good bet. While my
band saw is an 18" Jet, I would not hesitate to look at the Grizzly.
Grizzly used to provide contact info for up to two persons in your are
who have made a purchase similar to the tool you are considering.
Also of note is the fact that for years Fine Woodworking would not
mention Grizzly in their tool reviews. A few years ago the big Griz
Jointer took top honors; and a recent issue selected two of their band
saws with top ratings. I own two of their machines (1023s cabinet
saw, G0453 planer). They are high quality, good performers and their
service is great. With Griz you might move up to a larger table and
stay in the $1K range.
RonB
"Ralph Compton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
> and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
> up at a local store?
>
> thanks, Ralph
Been there done that. Had a Craftsman for about 20 years, 1/2 hp.
SLOOOOOOW and a PIA to set up.
Finally I decided to upgrade to one of those $1000 saws with more capacity,
hp, fancy roller guides, and decided on the 18" Rikon.
IMHO none of the $1000 saws are going to give you what you are looking for
especially if you want to walk up to the saw, turn it on, and on a daily
basis.
I was looking for an improvement, the $1000 18" Rikon was more of a lateral
move from the Craftsman that cost me $1000. I returned it within 2 weeks of
its purchase.
I wanted an upgrade. I wanted to adjust the guides to a specific blade and
not putz with it any more until I changed blade sizes.
I wanted everything you want. I dont think you are going to find it for
that price and especially if it is a new unit.
I ended up realizing to get the saw to do what I wanted it to do, perform
like a good cabinet saw, I had to spend more money.
I bought the LT16HD Laguna, way more expensive but it does what I want it to
do with little effort. It does not have to be tweeked. Blade tension is
not critical and you really don't get inconsistants cuts from one period of
use to the next.
It was important to me to get a saw to perform with as little in put and
tweeking from me as possible. I felt it was a better value to spend more
and get a saw that did what I wanted. I have probably used the Laguna 10
times more in the last 4 years than I did with the Craftsman that I used for
20 years. I did not want a saw that I used only because I had to. I
actually enjoy using and look forward to using the Laguna.
I can recomend any of the HD Italian built Laguna or MiniMax saws. A lot
more money but a LOT more saw. These saws are tools, not on going
projects.
On 1/22/2011 1:13 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I
>> want one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking
>> at high end units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've
>> heard too many negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well
>> within my price range, but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some
>> occasional resawing and doing curves in material that the scroll saw
>> can't easily handle. From specifications and from reading the
>> reviews of others I suspect that a 14" will do me just fine. What I
>> absolutely don't want is one that takes a lot of tweaking and
>> adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something that has been
>> engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the box. So
>> to speak.
>> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my
>> price range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra
>> blades!). I suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much
>> rather pick one up (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one
>> shipped. The local Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod
>> 10-320, Woodcraft has the Rikon 10-325.
>>
>> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to
>> set up and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be
>> able to pick up at a local store?
>
> Most bang for the buck = Grizzly IMO. No LA store but they can (or at
> least, used to) refer you to a user so you can see what you are buying.
My dad has an older version (6-8 years maybe) of the Grizzly G0555 and I've
messed with it quite a bit... I am not impressed. It seems very fiddly and
kinda flimsy to me, but then again it may just be that I'm used to my 16"
MiniMax, which is one of those Eye-Tal-iun made behemoths. :-)
Do you have a specific price cap you want to stay under?
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:44:26 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
> If you can afford the 10-325 that would be a better option IMO--it gives
> you 13" resaw capacity, a tension release, and another half horsepower,
> but it's going on twice the price.
I've got that one. If the OP needs the resaw capacity that's the one to
get. It's not the best bandsaw in the world but IMNSHO it's the best for
the money - *if* you need the resaw.
I got one when they first came out and had a couple of problems, but Rikon
fixed them with no hassle.
The bottom blade guides are a pain to adjust, but I don't change blades
all that often.
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"Ralph Compton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now that I finally realize how useful a band saw can be, I think I want
> one. But, finances what they are, I am not going to be looking at high end
> units. The Ridgid is well within my price range but I've heard too many
> negatives about it. HF, pretty much the same, well within my price range,
> but . . . I want an inexpensive saw for some occasional resawing and doing
> curves in material that the scroll saw can't easily handle. From
> specifications and from reading the reviews of others I suspect that a 14"
> will do me just fine. What I absolutely don't want is one that takes a
> lot of tweaking and adjusting to make it run smoothly. I want something
> that has been engineered and manufactured to run smoothly right out of the
> box. So to speak.
>
> Of the various brands, I see that Jet and Grizzley make things in my price
> range (I have to stay under 1K including a couple or so extra blades!). I
> suspect Grizzley is only mail-order. I also would much rather pick one up
> (I'm in Los Angeles area) rather than having one shipped. The local
> Rockler store has Jet, Sears carries Rikon mod 10-320, Woodcraft has the
> Rikon 10-325.
>
> So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set up
> and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to pick
> up at a local store?
>
> thanks, Ralph
Find a used one and save lots of money.
Steve
On 23 Jan 2011 19:46:14 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>RonB <[email protected]> writes:
>>On Jan 23, 8:34=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Jan 22, 12:56=A0pm, "Ralph Compton" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > So, long story short, what would be the most respected, easiest to set =
>>up
>>> > and use, stationary bandsaws in the 14" range that I might be able to p=
>>ick
>>> > up at a local store?
>>>
>>> You have mentioned Grizzly and that is probably a good bet. =A0While my
>>> band saw is an 18" Jet, I would not hesitate to look at the Grizzly.
>>> Grizzly used to provide contact info for up to two persons in your are
>>> who have made a purchase similar to the tool you are considering.
>>> Also of note is the fact that for years Fine Woodworking would not
>>> mention Grizzly in their tool reviews. =A0A few years ago the big Griz
>>> Jointer took top honors; and a recent issue selected two of their band
>>> saws with top ratings. =A0I own two of their machines (1023s cabinet
>>> saw, G0453 planer). =A0They are high quality, good performers and their
>>> service is great. =A0With Griz you might move up to a larger table and
>>> stay in the $1K range.
>>>
>>> RonB
>>
>>BTW - When I ordered my Grizzly Cabinet saw it was 36 hours from the
>>time I placed the internet order until the local trucker called for
Close to that here, too. I called it in Friday, they told me "6
weeks", I ordered anyway, the trucker called me Monday, and the DC and
BS were delivered Tuesday of that very next week.
>>instructions. That was a shipment from Springfield, MO to Wichita, KS
>>- about 320 miles. I believe Grizzly has a larger store/warehouse
>>north of you in Bellingham, WA
>
>1225 miles bellingham to LA via I-5. 1613 from springfield to LA.
I get a lot of stuff from WA and CA because we're all on I-5. It's
quick. 1225 miles equates to 22.5 hours on the road for a driver.
Order Monday, load monday, drive some Monday, drive Tuesday and
deliver on Wednesday. Prolly 4 days from Springfield to HelL.A.
>And it's more like 250 miles springfield to witchita.
That doesn't necessarily mean same day service. ;)
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