Hi,
I am a keen photographer and my wife and I want to start making our own
frames. I would like to produce some 'used' timber frames and make my own
mouldings. I have searched the net but have not found any real helpful
woodworking sites that focus on this subject. I plan to purchase a simple
router and DIY bench, a power or hand mitre saw etc. Could use some help
please from those who have walked before as to the best direction to go with
these items. Also traps for new players.
Cheers,
Bob Dunlop
or run down to local glass company and pay a very small fee and have a
piece cut to size. 1/16 glass is not very expensive.
BRuce
Morgans wrote:
> <. I actually think that
>
>>the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
>>to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
>>have not been all that successful.
>>Ken
>
>
> The keys are an expensive, pro glass cutter, some nibbling pliers, and a
> diamond drum sander with water circulator. Get all that, and after a bit of
> practice, you'll be a pro. :-)
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BRuce
JackD wrote:
> "Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > The keys are an expensive, pro glass cutter, some nibbling pliers, and a
> > diamond drum sander with water circulator. Get all that, and after a bit
> > of practice, you'll be a pro. :-)
>
> You don't need ANY of that to cut glass for rectangular picture frames.
Agreed, but a good self oiling glass cutter is still a good idea, along with
fresh glass.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
JackD wrote:
> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Agreed, but a good self oiling glass cutter is still a good idea,
>
> Don't think I've ever seen one of those.
Take a look at:
http://www.crlaurence.com/ProductPages/0/0GC1S_948.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
JackD wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of starting this myself as well. What i want is one of
> > those corner clamps that make sure your frame is correct on the
> > corners. Just got a new set of router bits (for another job) but I see
> > the framing starting some time this winter. My step son has given me
> > serveral bundles of oak flooring strips about 3ft by 1 inch by 3 inch
> > wide. I think these will make very nice frames. I actually think that
> > the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> > to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> > have not been all that successful.
> > Ken
>
> Get a flat working surface, a straight edge with rubber backing so it won't
> slide off the glass. Then dip your glass cutter in some kerosene to
> lubricate it and pressing down firmly run it ONE time along the straight
> edge.
>
> Slide the glass over until the scribed line is at the edge of your working
> surface and press down quickly. It should go "plink" and break right along
> the line.
>
> It couldn't be more simple. My 6 year old could do it on his first try.
>
> Cutting curves is different, but a straight line for a picture frame should
> be a piece of cake.
I never could get a common glass cutter to work, either I
pressed to hard or pressed to light. But, I once cut a
whole mess of glass for a greenhouse using a diamond
scribe. Worked as slick as a whistle and only messed up 2
or 3 cuts out of nearly 100. Also, I've heard that old
glass can be pretty tricky. Don't know if that's true but
cutting straight lines on new glass with a diamond scribe is
bone simple.
> "Bob Dunlop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a keen photographer and my wife and I want to start making our own
> > frames. I would like to produce some 'used' timber frames and make my
own
> > mouldings. I have searched the net but have not found any real helpful
> > woodworking sites that focus on this subject. I plan to purchase a
simple
> > router and DIY bench, a power or hand mitre saw etc. Could use some
help
> > please from those who have walked before as to the best direction to go
> with
> > these items. Also traps for new players.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bob Dunlop
> >
> >
>
A router or tablesaw for doing the rabbits (rebates), a router for cutting
profiles (you can get one of those do all molding bits to save youself a bit
of money), a miter box for cutting the miters and a miter trimmer for
getting everything gnat's ass.
Other thing is to make the space for the glass about 1/8" larger than you
cut the glass. Saves a lot of grief from funny cuts in glass or wood....
"JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> > I'm thinking of starting this myself as well. What i want is one of
> > those corner clamps that make sure your frame is correct on the
> > corners. Just got a new set of router bits (for another job) but I see
> > the framing starting some time this winter. My step son has given me
> > serveral bundles of oak flooring strips about 3ft by 1 inch by 3 inch
> > wide. I think these will make very nice frames. I actually think that
> > the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> > to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> > have not been all that successful.
> > Ken
>
> Get a flat working surface, a straight edge with rubber backing so it
won't
> slide off the glass. Then dip your glass cutter in some kerosene to
> lubricate it and pressing down firmly run it ONE time along the straight
> edge.
>
> Slide the glass over until the scribed line is at the edge of your working
> surface and press down quickly. It should go "plink" and break right along
> the line.
>
> It couldn't be more simple. My 6 year old could do it on his first try.
>
> Cutting curves is different, but a straight line for a picture frame
should
> be a piece of cake.
>
>
Biggest trap - people will discover that you can make frames. Especially
dangerous of you run with "artsy" folks who always seem to want frames, but
can't stoop to "crafting" them.
Table-mounted router and a mixed set of bits will do almost all you want.
You make your molding patterns, char and brush for "old" or distress and
glaze. Then you must remember the great, but often unremarked truth of
framing - if the opposite sides are not equal length they will not fit
properly, even if perfectly mitered! You may cut by hand or under power,
your choice, and by all means, if you are going to make frames within a
fairly narrow size range, get a clamp that uses threaded rods and clamps all
four corners simultaneously.
Now hit the library or a bookstore for a book on framing.
"Bob Dunlop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am a keen photographer and my wife and I want to start making our own
> frames. I would like to produce some 'used' timber frames and make my own
> mouldings. I have searched the net but have not found any real helpful
> woodworking sites that focus on this subject. I plan to purchase a simple
> router and DIY bench, a power or hand mitre saw etc. Could use some help
> please from those who have walked before as to the best direction to go
with
> these items. Also traps for new players.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Dunlop
>
>
> I'm thinking of starting this myself as well. What i want is one of
> those corner clamps that make sure your frame is correct on the
> corners. Just got a new set of router bits (for another job) but I see
> the framing starting some time this winter. My step son has given me
> serveral bundles of oak flooring strips about 3ft by 1 inch by 3 inch
> wide. I think these will make very nice frames. I actually think that
> the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> have not been all that successful.
> Ken
Get a flat working surface, a straight edge with rubber backing so it won't
slide off the glass. Then dip your glass cutter in some kerosene to
lubricate it and pressing down firmly run it ONE time along the straight
edge.
Slide the glass over until the scribed line is at the edge of your working
surface and press down quickly. It should go "plink" and break right along
the line.
It couldn't be more simple. My 6 year old could do it on his first try.
Cutting curves is different, but a straight line for a picture frame should
be a piece of cake.
"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <. I actually think that
> > the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> > to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> > have not been all that successful.
> > Ken
>
> The keys are an expensive, pro glass cutter, some nibbling pliers, and a
> diamond drum sander with water circulator. Get all that, and after a bit
of
> practice, you'll be a pro. :-)
> --
> Jim in NC
You don't need ANY of that to cut glass for rectangular picture frames.
-Jack
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Agreed, but a good self oiling glass cutter is still a good idea,
Don't think I've ever seen one of those.
-Jack
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> JackD wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking of starting this myself as well. What i want is one of
> > > those corner clamps that make sure your frame is correct on the
> > > corners. Just got a new set of router bits (for another job) but I see
> > > the framing starting some time this winter. My step son has given me
> > > serveral bundles of oak flooring strips about 3ft by 1 inch by 3 inch
> > > wide. I think these will make very nice frames. I actually think that
> > > the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> > > to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> > > have not been all that successful.
> > > Ken
> >
> > Get a flat working surface, a straight edge with rubber backing so it
won't
> > slide off the glass. Then dip your glass cutter in some kerosene to
> > lubricate it and pressing down firmly run it ONE time along the straight
> > edge.
> >
> > Slide the glass over until the scribed line is at the edge of your
working
> > surface and press down quickly. It should go "plink" and break right
along
> > the line.
> >
> > It couldn't be more simple. My 6 year old could do it on his first try.
> >
> > Cutting curves is different, but a straight line for a picture frame
should
> > be a piece of cake.
>
> I never could get a common glass cutter to work, either I
> pressed to hard or pressed to light. But, I once cut a
> whole mess of glass for a greenhouse using a diamond
> scribe. Worked as slick as a whistle and only messed up 2
> or 3 cuts out of nearly 100. Also, I've heard that old
> glass can be pretty tricky. Don't know if that's true but
> cutting straight lines on new glass with a diamond scribe is
> bone simple.
old glass is just dirty, which prevents a good score. there's nothing
inherent in old glass that prevents cutting it well.
an oil filled (use kerosene instead) cutter will run around $20. note,
there's different wheels for different thicknesses of glass. if you're
cutting 1/4" or larger, you need a special thick glass cutter, which you
won't find in most normal places.
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:21:16 GMT, "PM6564"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Bob Dunlop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am a keen photographer and my wife and I want to start making our own
>> > frames. I would like to produce some 'used' timber frames and make my
>own
>> > mouldings. I have searched the net but have not found any real helpful
>> > woodworking sites that focus on this subject. I plan to purchase a
>simple
>> > router and DIY bench, a power or hand mitre saw etc. Could use some
>help
>> > please from those who have walked before as to the best direction to go
>> with
>> > these items. Also traps for new players.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Bob Dunlop
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>A router or tablesaw for doing the rabbits (rebates), a router for cutting
>profiles (you can get one of those do all molding bits to save youself a bit
>of money), a miter box for cutting the miters and a miter trimmer for
>getting everything gnat's ass.
>
I'm thinking of starting this myself as well. What i want is one of
those corner clamps that make sure your frame is correct on the
corners. Just got a new set of router bits (for another job) but I see
the framing starting some time this winter. My step son has given me
serveral bundles of oak flooring strips about 3ft by 1 inch by 3 inch
wide. I think these will make very nice frames. I actually think that
the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
have not been all that successful.
Ken
<. I actually think that
> the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> have not been all that successful.
> Ken
The keys are an expensive, pro glass cutter, some nibbling pliers, and a
diamond drum sander with water circulator. Get all that, and after a bit of
practice, you'll be a pro. :-)
--
Jim in NC
"JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > <. I actually think that
> > > the glass will be the biggest problem. Not getting it, but cutting it
> > > to the right size. I've tried working with glass over the years and
> > > have not been all that successful.
> > > Ken
> >
> > The keys are an expensive, pro glass cutter, some nibbling pliers, and a
> > diamond drum sander with water circulator. Get all that, and after a
bit
> of
> > practice, you'll be a pro. :-)
> > --
> > Jim in NC
>
> You don't need ANY of that to cut glass for rectangular picture frames.
>
> -Jack
>
>
True, except the cutter. <g>
I thought at one time this thread had wandered to stained glass type stuff.
Wrong?
Oh well
--
Jim in NC