671: I believe the missing portion of the botom section will reveal
that the bottom board is a ski-shaped runner, making a kid's vehicle
for riding down snow covered slopes/hills.
I had a similar item in the early '60s, although that one was made of
steel with a wooden seat. The rider's feet are used to stabilize the
rider in the upright position.
668: I don't have a clue of the type of work it was intended to
perform. I'm fairly certain that the name of Bernard's and the patent
dates are related to the grips/handles/plier set.
I have several different tools which are a combination of the Bernard's
grips, but they have other names on the working parts (some are really
old, some are fairly recent).
All of the ones I've seen using Bernard's grips have the same
functional operation utilizing the compound-action, parallel jaw tools,
although they have different specific uses.
The name of Schollhorn Co would be related to the working part of the
tool.
RCM
WB
...............
R.H. wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Enoch Root wrote:
> On 2006-05-18, Christopher Tidy <[email protected]> ranted thusly:
> > Leon wrote:
> >> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> >> 669. Nut Cracker Drop a nut in to the wide end and twist both ends.
>
> > If that's a nut cracker, it's pretty neat.
>
> Mine's much cuter. Softer, too.
>
> er
> --
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That's no way for a man of the cloth to talk...
Dave
Some historical info pertaining to Schollhorn and Bernard
http://www.rostratool.com/historical.asp
Schollhorn made many different types of hand tools, even some
office/paper fastening tools. Some additional info on these vintage
tools here
http://www.geocities.com/typewriterexchange/web06.html
WB
..............
> I'm fairly certain that the name of Bernard's and the patent
> dates are related to the grips/handles/plier set.
> I have several different tools which are a combination of the Bernard's
> grips, but they have other names on the working parts (some are really
> old, some are fairly recent).
> All of the ones I've seen using Bernard's grips have the same
> functional operation utilizing the compound-action, parallel jaw tools,
> although they have different specific uses.
> The name of Schollhorn Co would be related to the working part of the
> tool.
>
> RCM
> WB
> ...............
>
> R.H. wrote:
> > The latest set has just been posted:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
668. For punching a hole in the side of a hose or thin-walled pipe.
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In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Sam Soltan" <samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I have a pair. and yes they are used for round belting... I have used them
>> on 35mm motion picture projectors. I am a member of I.A.T.S.E.
>
>
>A couple of questions:
>
>Is the hole created by your pair also slit shaped?
>
>Why exactly are the round belts punched with holes?
round belts are punched with holes to put 'staples' in, to hold the ends
together. Think "cut to fit", from bulk stock.
"Sam Soltan" <samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a pair. and yes they are used for round belting... I have used them
> on 35mm motion picture projectors. I am a member of I.A.T.S.E.
A couple of questions:
Is the hole created by your pair also slit shaped?
Why exactly are the round belts punched with holes?
Rob
666: Tobacco cutter
667: Snuff box
668:Crimping tool for cable connectors
669:No Idea
670:Tire patching tool
671:No idea
Puff
"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:eCXag.4572$a23.1619@trndny01...
> 666 Pencil Sharpener. (Guess)
>=20
> 668 Aglet Crimper. (Guess)
>=20
>=20
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message=20
> news:[email protected]...
> > The latest set has just been posted:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >=20
>=20
>
Leon wrote:
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>The latest set has just been posted:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>
>
>
> 669. Nut Cracker Drop a nut in to the wide end and twist both ends.
If that's a nut cracker, it's pretty neat.
Chris
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:00:39 +0000, R.H. wrote:
> Most of them have been answered correctly so far:
>
>
>
> 666. I'm still waiting on an email from the owner to tell me what it is, I
> thought it might be an old coffee grinder.
>
> 667. Matchsafe
>
> 668. Haven't yet been able to verify what this tool is for.
>
> 669. Nut cracker
>
> 670. Tire repair tool
670. Hand held "Marlin Spike" for manipulating wire rope to splice,
or braid an eye in the end. Sometimes called a "fid".
>
> 671. Single runner sled
>
>
> One new photo and a few links have been posted on the answer page:
>
> http://pzphotoans117-m.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
On 2006-05-18, Christopher Tidy <[email protected]> ranted thusly:
> Leon wrote:
>> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>> 669. Nut Cracker Drop a nut in to the wide end and twist both ends.
> If that's a nut cracker, it's pretty neat.
Mine's much cuter. Softer, too.
er
--
email not valid
> >If you find any marlin spikes that look like my tire repair tool, let me
> >know.
http://home.new.rr.com/theys/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
> Hey Rob,
>
> There is quite a difference between a fid and a marlin-spike, albeit a
> marlin-spike is handy to have too if you are using a fid. Vice versa
> is not true though, and there might be some bad thing happen if you
> used a fid in place of a marlin-spike.
What's the difference? The first sentence in the marlin spike link that I
posted seems to imply they are the same thing.
Rob
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The R.H. entity posted thusly:
>
> >http://home.new.rr.com/theys/
> >
> >If you find any fids that look like my tool, let me know.
>
> Say what???
>
lol, I guess I could have phrased that better:
If you find any marlin spikes that look like my tire repair tool, let me
know.
Rob
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
669. Nut Cracker Drop a nut in to the wide end and twist both ends.
667 is a cutter/punch and crimper for round leather or rubber belts. A
"staple" is put in the punched holes and crimped down.
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
>> The latest set has just been posted:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> As usual -- posting from rec.crafts.metalworking:
>
> 666) At a guess -- a pencil sharpener. The curved arms are blades
> which shave wood and pencil "lead" off one size, and the crank
> which rotates the blades is also geared to rotate the pencil as
> it is shaved.
>
> The drawer is to catch the shavings, and to be emptied from time
> to time.
>
> And -- you've given it a devilish number, too. :-)
>
> 667) Hmm ... container for something to nibble (perhaps Sen-Sens or
> similar -- or perhaps to hold flints for cigarette lighters?
>
> 668) If it were not for the date, I would consider it to be likely
> to be a terminal crimper of some sort. It looks as though it is
> designed to puncture something once gripped (perhaps a hose or
> a coaxial cable), or to cut the center conductor on a cable.
>
> It seems to be designed to grip something smaller as well.
>
> But no real idea as to what it is for.
>
> 669) Hmm ... some kind of massage device?
>
> 670) A preparation tool for patching tubeless tires, and perhaps
> inner tubes as well?
>
> The tapered ribbed part for cleaning the original puncture in
> the tread of a tire.
>
> The roughened "paddle" for preparing the surface for a patch.
>
> 671) A parking brake for a wagon? The long horizontal at the
> bottom is placed under the wheel so it rolls up onto that
> and the braced upright prevents rolling once the wheel is in
> contact.
>
> Now to see what others have guessed.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
> --
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I've been tracing the patents on this item. The first patent date, May 6,
1890, is for patent #427220, parallel jawed pliers made from sheet metal
with rivited joints and hinges. Still tracing later dates but pat2pdf has
had problems over the weekend.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Sam Soltan" <samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> I have a pair. and yes they are used for round belting... I have
>> >> used
> them
>> >> on 35mm motion picture projectors. I am a member of I.A.T.S.E.
>> >
>> >
>> >A couple of questions:
>> >
>> >Is the hole created by your pair also slit shaped?
>> >
>> >Why exactly are the round belts punched with holes?
>>
>> round belts are punched with holes to put 'staples' in, to hold the
>> ends together. Think "cut to fit", from bulk stock.
>
>
> Thanks, I should have re-read Sam's first post in this thread before
> asking, looks like he had it right from the start.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Smaug Ichorfang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've been tracing the patents on this item. The first patent date,
>> May 6, 1890, is for patent #427220, parallel jawed pliers made from
>> sheet metal with rivited joints and hinges. Still tracing later
>> dates but pat2pdf has had problems over the weekend.
>
>
> Thanks, if you happen to find the patent for the punch on this tool,
> I'd be interested to see it.
>
> Rob
>
>
I don't know if any of the dates given actually relate to a punch. The
first and last dates (the only ones I've found) are for the method of
making pliers and tool handles from sheet metal. The last date refers to
patent #1064956.
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Sam Soltan" <samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I have a pair. and yes they are used for round belting... I have used
them
> >> on 35mm motion picture projectors. I am a member of I.A.T.S.E.
> >
> >
> >A couple of questions:
> >
> >Is the hole created by your pair also slit shaped?
> >
> >Why exactly are the round belts punched with holes?
>
> round belts are punched with holes to put 'staples' in, to hold the ends
> together. Think "cut to fit", from bulk stock.
Thanks, I should have re-read Sam's first post in this thread before asking,
looks like he had it right from the start.
Rob
Some time ago I ran across a very similar set of pliers among my fathers old
tools.
The jaws opened parallel, and appeared to have a round punch, etc...
I can't seem to find it right now, but I do remember that it had the name
'Singer' on it, possibly with some other numbers.
After asking many freinds, we seemed to think it may have bee some sort of
drive belt repair tool for old Singer sewing machines.?
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Smaug Ichorfang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've been tracing the patents on this item. The first patent date, May
>> 6,
>> 1890, is for patent #427220, parallel jawed pliers made from sheet metal
>> with rivited joints and hinges. Still tracing later dates but pat2pdf
>> has
>> had problems over the weekend.
>
>
> Thanks, if you happen to find the patent for the punch on this tool, I'd
> be
> interested to see it.
>
> Rob
>
>
On Sat, 20 May 2006 10:27:57 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The R.H. entity posted thusly:
>>
>> >http://home.new.rr.com/theys/
>> >
>> >If you find any fids that look like my tool, let me know.
>>
>> Say what???
>>
>
>lol, I guess I could have phrased that better:
>
>If you find any marlin spikes that look like my tire repair tool, let me
>know.
>
>
>Rob
>
Hey Rob,
There is quite a difference between a fid and a marlin-spike, albeit a
marlin-spike is handy to have too if you are using a fid. Vice versa
is not true though, and there might be some bad thing happen if you
used a fid in place of a marlin-spike.
> > 670. Tire repair tool
>
> 670. Hand held "Marlin Spike" for manipulating wire rope to splice,
> or braid an eye in the end. Sometimes called a "fid".
I still think that it's a tire repair tool, mostly based on the larger end
with the file on it, I did a search on marlin spikes and found some here:
http://home.new.rr.com/theys/
If you find any fids that look like my tool, let me know.
-----
Just heard from the owner of number 666 (hope he isn't superstitious about
that number), those who said it was a pencil sharpener are correct.
Rob
Most of them have been answered correctly so far:
666. I'm still waiting on an email from the owner to tell me what it is, I
thought it might be an old coffee grinder.
667. Matchsafe
668. Haven't yet been able to verify what this tool is for.
669. Nut cracker
670. Tire repair tool
671. Single runner sled
One new photo and a few links have been posted on the answer page:
http://pzphotoans117-m.blogspot.com/
Rob
According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
As usual -- posting from rec.crafts.metalworking:
666) At a guess -- a pencil sharpener. The curved arms are blades
which shave wood and pencil "lead" off one size, and the crank
which rotates the blades is also geared to rotate the pencil as
it is shaved.
The drawer is to catch the shavings, and to be emptied from time
to time.
And -- you've given it a devilish number, too. :-)
667) Hmm ... container for something to nibble (perhaps Sen-Sens or
similar -- or perhaps to hold flints for cigarette lighters?
668) If it were not for the date, I would consider it to be likely
to be a terminal crimper of some sort. It looks as though it is
designed to puncture something once gripped (perhaps a hose or
a coaxial cable), or to cut the center conductor on a cable.
It seems to be designed to grip something smaller as well.
But no real idea as to what it is for.
669) Hmm ... some kind of massage device?
670) A preparation tool for patching tubeless tires, and perhaps
inner tubes as well?
The tapered ribbed part for cleaning the original puncture in
the tread of a tire.
The roughened "paddle" for preparing the surface for a patch.
671) A parking brake for a wagon? The long horizontal at the
bottom is placed under the wheel so it rolls up onto that
and the braced upright prevents rolling once the wheel is in
contact.
Now to see what others have guessed.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
According to HDRDTD <[email protected]>:
> Some time ago I ran across a very similar set of pliers among my fathers old
> tools.
>
> The jaws opened parallel, and appeared to have a round punch, etc...
>
> I can't seem to find it right now, but I do remember that it had the name
> 'Singer' on it, possibly with some other numbers.
>
> After asking many freinds, we seemed to think it may have bee some sort of
> drive belt repair tool for old Singer sewing machines.?
That certainly sounds right to me. As a kid, I used to play
under an old foot-treadle singer, and it did use staple-spliced belts
which could have been produced with the tool in the puzzle.
And the same could be used for the belts for watchmaker's lathes
as well, as they are quite similar.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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666 Pencil Sharpener. (Guess)
668 Aglet Crimper. (Guess)
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
"Wild Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some historical info pertaining to Schollhorn and Bernard
> http://www.rostratool.com/historical.asp
Thanks, that's a great link, I took a look at their plier pictorial pdf
document, the one that looked closest to mine was the "round belt punch
pliers", number 115:
http://www.rostratool.com/pdf/PlierPictorial.pdf
Rob
All are just WAGS
666 Drill bit sharpener
667 Snuff or medicine box
668 Some kind of electrical tool, crimper/stripper?
669 HugieWatzit
670 Tree climber
671 Stool for a ????
R.H. wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
--
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid
in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming, 'WOW! What A RIDE!!" ... Unknown
I have a pair. and yes they are used for round belting... I have used them
on 35mm motion picture projectors. I am a member of I.A.T.S.E.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Wild Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Some historical info pertaining to Schollhorn and Bernard
>> http://www.rostratool.com/historical.asp
>
>
> Thanks, that's a great link, I took a look at their plier pictorial pdf
> document, the one that looked closest to mine was the "round belt punch
> pliers", number 115:
>
> http://www.rostratool.com/pdf/PlierPictorial.pdf
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
"Smaug Ichorfang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been tracing the patents on this item. The first patent date, May 6,
> 1890, is for patent #427220, parallel jawed pliers made from sheet metal
> with rivited joints and hinges. Still tracing later dates but pat2pdf has
> had problems over the weekend.
Thanks, if you happen to find the patent for the punch on this tool, I'd be
interested to see it.
Rob
On 2006-05-19, [email protected] <[email protected]> ranted thusly:
> Enoch Root wrote:
>> On 2006-05-18, Christopher Tidy <[email protected]> ranted thusly:
>> > Leon wrote:
>> >> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> >> 669. Nut Cracker Drop a nut in to the wide end and twist both ends.
>>
>> > If that's a nut cracker, it's pretty neat.
>>
>> Mine's much cuter. Softer, too.
> That's no way for a man of the cloth to talk...
Hey, you sound like my nutcracker. :)
er
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