GG

Greg Guarino

14/09/2011 10:51 PM

Refinishing a small section of old tongue & groove oak floor

Old house, original solid oak flooring. Had it sanded and refinished 13
years ago when we bought the house. Most is in decent condition.

But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
ruined the floor in that area.

Can you guess?

I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in hand.

So anyway ... how best to fix it?

There was a more extreme (but thankfully limited) accident involving
nail polish remover earlier this year. It left a few square inches
nearly bare of finish and rough to the touch. I sanded it with a detail
sander and put a couple of coats of poly over it (steel wool
in-between), the same poly that was originally used. While the spot was
visible on close inspection right after the repair (it was newer-looking
and glossier, naturally), it has grown even less conspicuous since then
as people wear it down.

The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. And
rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.

I have access to a belt sander (hand-held, old), which seems like my
best option, if I can keep it from becoming a Go-Kart. But what grit,
kind of "paper", etc? I also have a half-sheet orbital, which seems like
too much finesse and not enough beef. Are there any other good options
(chemicals? scrapers?)

Tips greatly appreciated.


This topic has 20 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

19/09/2011 4:51 AM

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:27:14 -0500, Roy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:53:29 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:39:39 -0500, Roy <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Or just score and break up an old hand saw into scraper size pieces and use
>>
>>If you pretend you never said that, I'll pretend you aren't one of
>>those saw painters, either. Harrumpf!
>
>Nah. I rarely paint anything except cherry, and even then only paint cherry
>when I can't get the stain to take right.

Ayieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


>I have a fairly recent Great Neck I picked up in a group of saws that have a
>more desirable lineage. The GN is earmarked for scraper blades. It came pre
>rusted, dull and with a plastic handle. I don't lay awake at night worrying
>about its fate.

OK, I'll give you that one.


>It served as the sacrificial blade in my first attempts at sharpening a handsaw.
>My next plan was originally to break it up for scraper blades, but now thanks to
>your input, I think I'll paint some sort of pastoral scene on it.

Egad, what have I done? But most pasture-droppings are on circular or
2-man saws.


>I know! I'll paint it green like a meadow, and all those pointy teeth will look
>like blades of grass sticking up out of the field. Maybe I'll even paint a cow
>and a chicken out in the field. Then I'll cut it up. I hear green scraper
>blades, specially if they have a cow and a chicken on them, cut better than
>regular ones.
>
>Thanks for the advice, Larry! I'll take pictures.

Keep 'em to yourself, y' HEATHEN.

--
A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description
of a happy state in this world.
-- John Locke

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 1:27 PM

On Sep 14, 11:03=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 14, 10:51=A0pm, Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Old house, original solid oak flooring. Had it sanded and refinished 13
> > years ago when we bought the house. Most is in decent condition.
>
> > But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
> > ruined the floor in that area.
>
> > Can you guess?
>
> > I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
> > often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in han=
d.
>
> > So anyway ... how best to fix it?
>
> > There was a more extreme (but thankfully limited) accident involving
> > nail polish remover earlier this year. It left a few square inches
> > nearly bare of finish and rough to the touch. I sanded it with a detail
> > sander and put a couple of coats of poly over it (steel wool
> > in-between), the same poly that was originally used. While the spot was
> > visible on close inspection right after the repair (it was newer-lookin=
g
> > and glossier, naturally), it has grown even less conspicuous since then
> > as people wear it down.
>
> > The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. And
> > rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
> > once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.
>
> > I have access to a belt sander (hand-held, old), which seems like my
> > best option, if I can keep it from becoming a Go-Kart. But what grit,
> > kind of "paper", etc? I also have a half-sheet orbital, which seems lik=
e
> > too much finesse and not enough beef. Are there any other good options
> > (chemicals? scrapers?)
>
> > Tips greatly appreciated.
>
> Bingo! =A0A card scraper will make short work of stripping off the old
> finish and getting down to fresh wood. =A0After you apply the poly and
> let it set up for a while so it's fully cured, you can use some very
> fine steel wool to lightly scuff the finish so it will blend it
> better.

Finishes are tough on edges. A filed scraper will work
better than burnished.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

17/09/2011 10:45 AM

On Sep 16, 10:22=A0am, Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>
> > On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
>
> >> Finishes are tough on edges. =A0A filed scraper will work
> >> better than burnished.
>
> > The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. =A0Filed or burnished won't
> > make a big difference in this instance. =A0He's also on the verge of
> > coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. =A0He needs to use the car=
d
> > scraper to access the Force.
>
> Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers the
> most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...
>
> <yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>
>
> ... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
> this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
> it, a reversible scraper blade?

Another possibility - go old school and use a piece of broken glass to
scrape off the finish.

Never throw anything out.

R

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 6:01 AM

If the area is only 2 sq ft, sand it by hand.... that's your best
option. After sanding, re-evaluate the dirtiness and/or any stain
(water type blackness or such??). I wouldn't think you can reasonably
assess your refinishing procedure until after you remove the dirtiness
(and/or discoloration, if applicable) and the other damaged "crud"
from the affected surface.

If your first coat of refinish result is too light of color, in
appearance, compared to the older undamaged areas, you might consider
putting a tint/toner in your subsequent top coats, to match the older
coloration. A ScotchBrite pad will knock down any excess shine of the
newly refinish area, also.

Sonny

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

14/09/2011 10:55 PM


"Greg Guarino" wrote:

> I have access to a belt sander (hand-held, old), which seems like my
> best option, if I can keep it from becoming a Go-Kart.
----------------------------
That's the best place to keep a belt sander.

IMHO, they are a disaster waiting to happen in most applications.

BTW, have a P/C "Choo-Choo" F/S, if anybody is interested.

Lew


Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 3:56 PM

On Sep 15, 4:27=A0pm, Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 14, 11:03=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 10:51=A0pm, Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Old house, original solid oak flooring. Had it sanded and refinished =
13
> > > years ago when we bought the house. Most is in decent condition.
>
> > > But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that h=
as
> > > ruined the floor in that area.
>
> > > Can you guess?
>
> > > I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror=
,
> > > often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in h=
and.
>
> > > So anyway ... how best to fix it?
>
> > > There was a more extreme (but thankfully limited) accident involving
> > > nail polish remover earlier this year. It left a few square inches
> > > nearly bare of finish and rough to the touch. I sanded it with a deta=
il
> > > sander and put a couple of coats of poly over it (steel wool
> > > in-between), the same poly that was originally used. While the spot w=
as
> > > visible on close inspection right after the repair (it was newer-look=
ing
> > > and glossier, naturally), it has grown even less conspicuous since th=
en
> > > as people wear it down.
>
> > > The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. An=
d
> > > rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
> > > once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.
>
> > > I have access to a belt sander (hand-held, old), which seems like my
> > > best option, if I can keep it from becoming a Go-Kart. But what grit,
> > > kind of "paper", etc? I also have a half-sheet orbital, which seems l=
ike
> > > too much finesse and not enough beef. Are there any other good option=
s
> > > (chemicals? scrapers?)
>
> > > Tips greatly appreciated.
>
> > Bingo! =A0A card scraper will make short work of stripping off the old
> > finish and getting down to fresh wood. =A0After you apply the poly and
> > let it set up for a while so it's fully cured, you can use some very
> > fine steel wool to lightly scuff the finish so it will blend it
> > better.
>
> Finishes are tough on edges. =A0A filed scraper will work
> better than burnished.

The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. Filed or burnished won't
make a big difference in this instance. He's also on the verge of
coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. He needs to use the card
scraper to access the Force.

R

SS

Stuart

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 9:14 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
> The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. And
> rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
> once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.

Maybe you should use the same "chemical" to clean, then repeat the
treatment as before :-)

Nail varnish remover is largely Acetone.

--
Stuart Winsor


RN

Roy

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

17/09/2011 12:39 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:54:16 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:22:16 -0400, Greg Guarino <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>>> On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Finishes are tough on edges. A filed scraper will work
>>>> better than burnished.
>>>
>>> The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. Filed or burnished won't
>>> make a big difference in this instance. He's also on the verge of
>>> coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. He needs to use the card
>>> scraper to access the Force.
>>>
>>
>>Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers the
>>most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...
>>
>><yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>
>
>
>>... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
>>this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
>>it, a reversible scraper blade?
>
>Yes, you could have her use one of those while you wait for your
>cabinet scrapers to come in the mail. Just make sure she holds it flat
>to the surface. They will certainly gouge deeper than a card scraper
>can. Amazon/LVT sourcing below, for your convenience:
>http://goo.gl/R5ybW angled set, http://goo.gl/ZrKsW rectangular set.
>http://goo.gl/r8Hp6 angles, http://goo.gl/ESJhA hard milled rect.
>I tend to like the middle & thicker sizes the best.

Or just score and break up an old hand saw into scraper size pieces and use
that. Should be around 0.040 thick which ought to be a medium I think. I have
a chunk of one in my 80 and it works fine. Should also make a good card
scraper, especially if you make a scraper holder to get a bow on the blade with
no effort. It's a little softer than a Sandvik but it doesn't take much to
sharpen one, and even less to return the burr.
>
>Heads up for LVT, guys:
>FREE SHIPPING On orders $40 or more placed Sept 16 to Sept 26, 2011*
>
>
>I found a scraper file holder, plane blade holder, and saw set in a $2
>box of garage sale hardware once, so I lucked out. I seldom pull a
>burr on a scraper, either. If I do, I use a hardened screwdriver
>shank. I don't own a real burnisher. Filed and honed scrapers are just
>fine for me in terms of aggressiveness.

I have a Two Cherries burnisher, but only because I got it for 60% off when the
Cutting Edge went out of business. I too used a screwdriver shank for several
years before I got the burnisher. I can't say I see any improvement over the
screwdriver.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

17/09/2011 4:53 AM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:39:39 -0500, Roy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Or just score and break up an old hand saw into scraper size pieces and use

If you pretend you never said that, I'll pretend you aren't one of
those saw painters, either. Harrumpf!

--
Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

16/09/2011 8:27 AM

On Sep 16, 10:22=A0am, Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>
> > On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
>
> >> Finishes are tough on edges. =A0A filed scraper will work
> >> better than burnished.
>
> > The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. =A0Filed or burnished won't
> > make a big difference in this instance. =A0He's also on the verge of
> > coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. =A0He needs to use the car=
d
> > scraper to access the Force.
>
> Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers the
> most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...
>
> <yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>
>
> ... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
> this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
> it, a reversible scraper blade?

Sure, but I want you to get a card scraper soon so you can write a
post that says, "God, I love this thing!" I'm getting impatient. ;)

There are a whole host of scrapers that would work. Stanley made a
bunch or different scrapers and scraper planes. Take a look at
Stanley models 80, 81, 12, 12 1/2, 82, 282, 112, 212. There are
others, but those come to mind.

R

ww

willshak

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 3:36 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote the following:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:51:47 -0400, Greg Guarino wrote:
>
>> But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
>> ruined the floor in that area.
>>
>> Can you guess?
>>
>> I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
>> often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in
>> hand.
>
> Figure out what works, then make said teenager do the work. Should
> greatly increase the longevity of said repair.

and teach the kid that his hands can be used for more things than
clicking on keyboard keys.



--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

20/09/2011 5:30 PM

On Sep 20, 4:14=A0pm, Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Screwdrivers might, or might not, be hard enough to
> use for burnishers. =A0Most will need polishing before
> they'll turn a smooth burr. =A0My favorite homemade
> burnisher is a crank spindle from an old ten speed,
> alloy is probably 10100 with a pinch of boron for
> extra hardening.

A good quality drill bit shaft works. I've never used a titanium
coated bit as a burnisher, but this is interesting:
http://www.irwin.com/support-services/ask-irwin/4

R

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

20/09/2011 1:14 PM

On Sep 17, 1:39=A0am, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:54:16 -0700, Larry Jaques
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:22:16 -0400, Greg Guarino <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> >>> On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
>
> >>>> Finishes are tough on edges. =A0A filed scraper will work
> >>>> better than burnished.
>
> >>> The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. =A0Filed or burnished won'=
t
> >>> make a big difference in this instance. =A0He's also on the verge of
> >>> coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. =A0He needs to use the c=
ard
> >>> scraper to access the Force.
>
> >>Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers th=
e
> >>most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...
>
> >><yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>
>
> >>... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
> >>this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
> >>it, a reversible scraper blade?
>
> >Yes, you could have her use one of those while you wait for your
> >cabinet scrapers to come in the mail. Just make sure she holds it flat
> >to the surface. They will certainly gouge deeper than a card scraper
> >can. =A0Amazon/LVT sourcing below, for your convenience:
> >http://goo.gl/R5ybWangled set,http://goo.gl/ZrKsWrectangular set.
> >http://goo.gl/r8Hp6angles,http://goo.gl/ESJhAhard milled rect.
> >I tend to like the middle & thicker sizes the best.
>
> Or just score and break up an old hand saw into scraper size pieces and u=
se
> that. =A0Should be around 0.040 thick which ought to be a medium I think.=
=A0I have
> a chunk of one in my 80 and it works fine. =A0Should also make a good car=
d
> scraper, especially if you make a scraper holder to get a bow on the blad=
e with
> no effort. =A0It's a little softer than a Sandvik but it doesn't take muc=
h to
> sharpen one, and even less to return the burr.
>
>
>
> >Heads up for LVT, guys:
> >FREE SHIPPING On orders $40 or more placed Sept 16 to Sept 26, 2011*
>
> >I found a scraper file holder, plane blade holder, and saw set in a $2
> >box of garage sale hardware once, so I lucked out. I seldom pull a
> >burr on a scraper, either. =A0If I do, I use a hardened screwdriver
> >shank. I don't own a real burnisher. Filed and honed scrapers are just
> >fine for me in terms of aggressiveness.
>
> I have a Two Cherries burnisher, but only because I got it for 60% off wh=
en the
> Cutting Edge went out of business. =A0I too used a screwdriver shank for =
several
> years before I got the burnisher. =A0I can't say I see any improvement ov=
er the
> screwdriver.

Screwdrivers might, or might not, be hard enough to
use for burnishers. Most will need polishing before
they'll turn a smooth burr. My favorite homemade
burnisher is a crank spindle from an old ten speed,
alloy is probably 10100 with a pinch of boron for
extra hardening.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

14/09/2011 8:03 PM

On Sep 14, 10:51=A0pm, Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:
> Old house, original solid oak flooring. Had it sanded and refinished 13
> years ago when we bought the house. Most is in decent condition.
>
> But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
> ruined the floor in that area.
>
> Can you guess?
>
> I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
> often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in hand.
>
> So anyway ... how best to fix it?
>
> There was a more extreme (but thankfully limited) accident involving
> nail polish remover earlier this year. It left a few square inches
> nearly bare of finish and rough to the touch. I sanded it with a detail
> sander and put a couple of coats of poly over it (steel wool
> in-between), the same poly that was originally used. While the spot was
> visible on close inspection right after the repair (it was newer-looking
> and glossier, naturally), it has grown even less conspicuous since then
> as people wear it down.
>
> The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. And
> rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
> once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.
>
> I have access to a belt sander (hand-held, old), which seems like my
> best option, if I can keep it from becoming a Go-Kart. But what grit,
> kind of "paper", etc? I also have a half-sheet orbital, which seems like
> too much finesse and not enough beef. Are there any other good options
> (chemicals? scrapers?)
>
> Tips greatly appreciated.

Bingo! A card scraper will make short work of stripping off the old
finish and getting down to fresh wood. After you apply the poly and
let it set up for a while so it's fully cured, you can use some very
fine steel wool to lightly scuff the finish so it will blend it
better.

R

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

16/09/2011 9:54 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:22:16 -0400, Greg Guarino <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>> On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Finishes are tough on edges. A filed scraper will work
>>> better than burnished.
>>
>> The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. Filed or burnished won't
>> make a big difference in this instance. He's also on the verge of
>> coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. He needs to use the card
>> scraper to access the Force.
>>
>
>Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers the
>most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...
>
><yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>


>... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
>this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
>it, a reversible scraper blade?

Yes, you could have her use one of those while you wait for your
cabinet scrapers to come in the mail. Just make sure she holds it flat
to the surface. They will certainly gouge deeper than a card scraper
can. Amazon/LVT sourcing below, for your convenience:
http://goo.gl/R5ybW angled set, http://goo.gl/ZrKsW rectangular set.
http://goo.gl/r8Hp6 angles, http://goo.gl/ESJhA hard milled rect.
I tend to like the middle & thicker sizes the best.

Heads up for LVT, guys:
FREE SHIPPING On orders $40 or more placed Sept 16 to Sept 26, 2011*


I found a scraper file holder, plane blade holder, and saw set in a $2
box of garage sale hardware once, so I lucked out. I seldom pull a
burr on a scraper, either. If I do, I use a hardened screwdriver
shank. I don't own a real burnisher. Filed and honed scrapers are just
fine for me in terms of aggressiveness.

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 5:17 AM

On 9/15/2011 4:14 AM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Greg Guarino<[email protected]> wrote:
>> The area I want to repair now is much bigger, maybe 2 square feet. And
>> rather than a "clean" spot that had a chemical dropped on it all at
>> once, this area looks dirty as well as worn down.
>
> Maybe you should use the same "chemical" to clean, then repeat the
> treatment as before :-)
>
> Nail varnish remover is largely Acetone.
>
I had actually considered that, using the quart can from the garage
rather than the bottle from the medicine cabinet. I think the dirt, or
discoloration, may require some mechanical abrasion anyway, so that may
be me first route.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 4:42 PM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:51:47 -0400, Greg Guarino wrote:

> But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
> ruined the floor in that area.
>
> Can you guess?
>
> I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
> often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in
> hand.

Figure out what works, then make said teenager do the work. Should
greatly increase the longevity of said repair.



--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

15/09/2011 9:43 PM

On 9/15/2011 12:42 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:51:47 -0400, Greg Guarino wrote:
>
>> But, there's a full length mirror on the back of a closet door that has
>> ruined the floor in that area.
>>
>> Can you guess?
>>
>> I have a teenage daughter. She is often found in front of that mirror,
>> often with wet feet, dripping hair and assorted sprayable toxins in
>> hand.
>
> Figure out what works, then make said teenager do the work. Should
> greatly increase the longevity of said repair.

We have implemented that strategy on several occasions already. We'll
see about this time.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

16/09/2011 10:22 AM

On 9/15/2011 6:56 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Sep 15, 4:27 pm, Father Haskell<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 14, 11:03 pm, RicodJour<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Finishes are tough on edges. A filed scraper will work
>> better than burnished.
>
> The OP is only going to be scraping ~2 SF. Filed or burnished won't
> make a big difference in this instance. He's also on the verge of
> coming over to the Bright Side - hand tools. He needs to use the card
> scraper to access the Force.
>

Of all the tips I got in the plane threads, I find the card scrapers the
most seductive. I intend to try them out soon...

<yoda> "Do or do not. There is no try" </yoda>

... but I wonder if a more prosaic scraper would be more suitable for
this particular job. You know the type, a handle with a slight crook in
it, a reversible scraper blade?

RN

Roy

in reply to Greg Guarino on 14/09/2011 10:51 PM

18/09/2011 10:27 PM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:53:29 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:39:39 -0500, Roy <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Or just score and break up an old hand saw into scraper size pieces and use
>
>If you pretend you never said that, I'll pretend you aren't one of
>those saw painters, either. Harrumpf!

Nah. I rarely paint anything except cherry, and even then only paint cherry
when I can't get the stain to take right.

I have a fairly recent Great Neck I picked up in a group of saws that have a
more desirable lineage. The GN is earmarked for scraper blades. It came pre
rusted, dull and with a plastic handle. I don't lay awake at night worrying
about its fate.

It served as the sacrificial blade in my first attempts at sharpening a handsaw.
My next plan was originally to break it up for scraper blades, but now thanks to
your input, I think I'll paint some sort of pastoral scene on it.

I know! I'll paint it green like a meadow, and all those pointy teeth will look
like blades of grass sticking up out of the field. Maybe I'll even paint a cow
and a chicken out in the field. Then I'll cut it up. I hear green scraper
blades, specially if they have a cow and a chicken on them, cut better than
regular ones.

Thanks for the advice, Larry! I'll take pictures.

<BSWG> Roy


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