JJ

16/04/2007 10:41 AM

INSPIRATION - 'Lectrc Guitar

http://www.kevinchilcott-luthier.co.uk/private/electra-mk-ii-natural.htm

If I could play a guitar, tis would probably inspire me to make one
like this - out of plywood - that was my first thought on seeing it.
One, to see how it would t urn out, and two, to see how many people it
would piss off. I probably would only paint the top of the neck yellow,
the rest I would finis with cooking oi. Ah, life can indeed be fun.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.


This topic has 14 replies

Mm

Markem

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

16/04/2007 10:41 AM

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:41:30 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>http://www.kevinchilcott-luthier.co.uk/private/electra-mk-ii-natural.htm
>
> If I could play a guitar, tis would probably inspire me to make one
>like this - out of plywood - that was my first thought on seeing it.
>One, to see how it would t urn out, and two, to see how many people it
>would piss off. I probably would only paint the top of the neck yellow,
>the rest I would finis with cooking oi. Ah, life can indeed be fun.

The only electric guitar I want is the original Les Paul, he made it
out of a 4x4. Heard him play it once at an AES convention.

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

Rd

"Robatoy"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

16/04/2007 10:15 AM

On Apr 16, 11:41 am, Markem <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> The only electric guitar I want is the original Les Paul, he made it
> out of a 4x4. Heard him play it once at an AES convention.
>
What-the-hay, why not a 1959? A 1959 Les Paul in good condition can be
easily priced between $100,000 and $500,000.

Unfortunately, Les Paul had very little to do with any of the Les Paul
designs.
Gibson designed and built a guitar, Les Paul picked the colour and
allowed Gibson to put on his name.

r

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

17/04/2007 4:14 PM

On Apr 16, 10:41 am, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> http://www.kevinchilcott-luthier.co.uk/private/electra-mk-ii-natural.htm
>
> If I could play a guitar, tis would probably inspire me to make one
> like this - out of plywood - that was my first thought on seeing it.
> One, to see how it would t urn out, and two, to see how many people it
> would piss off. I probably would only paint the top of the neck yellow,
> the rest I would finis with cooking oi. Ah, life can indeed be fun.
>
> JOAT
> I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

Glue supposedly deadens sound. Old Gibson banjos made with
3-ply shells fetch higher prices than 5-ply. Less glue, more
wood = brighter sound.

That said, Bondo and sand the hell out of it before painting.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Father Haskell on 17/04/2007 4:14 PM

17/04/2007 11:24 PM

On Apr 18, 2:16 am, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 4:14pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
> (Father Haskell) doth adviseth:
> Glue supposedly deadens sound. Old Gibson banjos made with 3-ply shells
> fetch higher prices than 5-ply. Less glue, more wood = brighter sound.
> That said, Bondo and sand the hell out of it before painting.
>
> I'm tone deaf so no prob there.
>
> Nah, I figure just paint, that should piss some of the too ight
> people off even more.

Automotive lacquer. It'll rub out to a pianolike gloss. Krylon
fast-dry "enamel" is close, comes in a wide selection of
gaudy colors.

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to Father Haskell on 17/04/2007 11:24 PM

18/04/2007 2:59 PM

J T wrote:
> Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 11:24pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
> (Father Haskell) doth sayeth:
> Automotive lacquer. It'll rub out to a pianolike gloss. Krylon fast-dry
> "enamel" is close, comes in a wide selection of gaudy colors.
>
> Well sure, if you want to make a fancy one. If I was gonna make
> one and do that, I'd go the whole route. But that wouldn't be fun.
> "IF" I were to make one, it'd be for my enjoyment, and part of that
> enjoyment woud be yellow latex paint somewhere on it (withOUT the bondo,
> smoothing, auto paints, etc.), and leave the rest obviously plywood.
> Which reinds me, I realy need to dig out my banjo and finish tat.
> Pallet wood, dgwood, pine, plywood, door skin, I think some hickory;
> it'll have a bit of yllow latex (on th backside), and probably a tinted
> cooking oil finish. About the only thing storebought on it will be
> probably nothing. It should look pretty good really, but as I don't
> know how to play a banjo, I'll need to add learning to play to my to-do
> list.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.
>
>

See if you can get some of that striped Rust-oleum in the spray cans.
That way the wood won't rust.

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http://nmwoodworks.com/cube


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JJ

in reply to Father Haskell on 17/04/2007 11:24 PM

18/04/2007 1:57 PM

Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 11:24pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Father=A0Haskell) doth sayeth:
Automotive lacquer. It'll rub out to a pianolike gloss. Krylon fast-dry
"enamel" is close, comes in a wide selection of gaudy colors.

Well sure, if you want to make a fancy one. If I was gonna make
one and do that, I'd go the whole route. But that wouldn't be fun.
"IF" I were to make one, it'd be for my enjoyment, and part of that
enjoyment woud be yellow latex paint somewhere on it (withOUT the bondo,
smoothing, auto paints, etc.), and leave the rest obviously plywood.
Which reinds me, I realy need to dig out my banjo and finish tat.
Pallet wood, dgwood, pine, plywood, door skin, I think some hickory;
it'll have a bit of yllow latex (on th backside), and probably a tinted
cooking oil finish. About the only thing storebought on it will be
probably nothing. It should look pretty good really, but as I don't
know how to play a banjo, I'll need to add learning to play to my to-do
list.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

JJ

in reply to Father Haskell on 17/04/2007 4:14 PM

18/04/2007 2:16 AM

Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 4:14pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Father=A0Haskell) doth adviseth:
Glue supposedly deadens sound. Old Gibson banjos made with 3-ply shells
fetch higher prices than 5-ply. Less glue, more wood =3D brighter sound.
That said, Bondo and sand the hell out of it before painting.

I'm tone deaf so no prob there.

Nah, I figure just paint, that should piss some of the too ight
people off even more.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

MO

Mike O.

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

17/04/2007 11:27 PM

On 16 Apr 2007 10:15:30 -0700, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>What-the-hay, why not a 1959? A 1959 Les Paul in good condition can be
>easily priced between $100,000 and $500,000.
>
>Unfortunately, Les Paul had very little to do with any of the Les Paul
>designs.
>Gibson designed and built a guitar, Les Paul picked the colour and
>allowed Gibson to put on his name.

Have you read Gibson Electrics by A.R. Duchossoir?
The book gives a good history of Gibson electrics with interviews with
Les and Ted McCarty from Gibson among others.
You might be surprised at how much influence Les actually had on solid
body production. While Les did not design final body styles, design
features like scale length, and the original combo bridge/tailpiece
were his. The patent for the original wrap around tailpiece was
applied for by L. W. Polfus. in 1952. Of course by the time the
patent was issued in '56, the McCarty designed tune-o-matic had
already replaced the one designed by Les.
Anyway, the book is an interesting read if you like the minutia of
Gibson history.

Mike O.

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

16/04/2007 10:56 AM

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:41:30 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>http://www.kevinchilcott-luthier.co.uk/private/electra-mk-ii-natural.htm
>
> If I could play a guitar, tis would probably inspire me to make one
>like this - out of plywood - that was my first thought on seeing it.
>One, to see how it would t urn out, and two, to see how many people it
>would piss off. I probably would only paint the top of the neck yellow,
>the rest I would finis with cooking oi. Ah, life can indeed be fun.

Well, I've seen electric guitars made from plywood, MDF, flakeboard,
old construction lumber, aluminum, plastic and steel. Probably other
things as well. They have come finished in every color under the sun
and a few you can't imagine. They get covered in decals, gold leaf,
fabric and leather. Electric guitar luthiers are one group you are
unlikely to be able to piss off, no matter how weird you go.

Remember, Kiss is a mild, mainstream act.

--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Tim Douglass on 16/04/2007 10:56 AM

17/04/2007 3:58 PM

On Apr 17, 3:45 pm, Tim Douglass <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:42:57 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
> wrote:
>
> > Kiss? As far as I know, I've never even heard Kiss. Don't tey
> >wear weird makeup? I'm not interest in listening to guys that wear
> >makeup, damn sure aren't going to watch them. Well, in truth I wouldn't
> >watch them, or even listen to them, makeup or no makeup.
>
> Yep. That's them. And that's my point. To you they are way out weird
> (OK, to me too), but compared to a lot of what is out there they are
> mild and mainstream. There is weird stuff out there that the normal
> human can barely dream of.

Listen to some of their old albums. Put aside any preconceptions,
and just listen. KISS were skilled musicians who played cleanly,
accurately, with a high level of discipline -- no one band member
tried to
outdo the others, which would lead to noise, and consequently an
early
breakup.

Not that they lacked in the weirdness department. There's an
infamous KISS comic book that was printed with ink containing
blood from each of the four band members.

JJ

in reply to Tim Douglass on 16/04/2007 10:56 AM

16/04/2007 4:42 PM

Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 10:56am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) doth sayeth:
<snip> Electric guitar luthiers are one group you are unlikely to be
able to piss off, no matter how weird you go.
Remember, Kiss is a mild, mainstream act.

Oh, I don't care who it'd piss off, I'm just sure it would piss
someone off.

Kiss? As far as I know, I've never even heard Kiss. Don't tey
wear weird makeup? I'm not interest in listening to guys that wear
makeup, damn sure aren't going to watch them. Well, in truth I wouldn't
watch them, or even listen to them, makeup or no makeup.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Tim Douglass on 16/04/2007 10:56 AM

17/04/2007 12:45 PM

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:42:57 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

> Kiss? As far as I know, I've never even heard Kiss. Don't tey
>wear weird makeup? I'm not interest in listening to guys that wear
>makeup, damn sure aren't going to watch them. Well, in truth I wouldn't
>watch them, or even listen to them, makeup or no makeup.

Yep. That's them. And that's my point. To you they are way out weird
(OK, to me too), but compared to a lot of what is out there they are
mild and mainstream. There is weird stuff out there that the normal
human can barely dream of.

--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

JJ

in reply to Tim Douglass on 17/04/2007 12:45 PM

18/04/2007 2:12 AM

Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 12:45pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) doth sayeth:
Yep. That's them. And that's my point. To you they are way out weird
(OK, to me too), but compared to a lot of what is out there they are
mild and mainstream. There is weird stuff out there that the normal
human can barely dream of.

Oh, I'm tolerent. I could get along with just listening to their
music, and not looking at them. Except for the fact that I don't like
their music.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

Mm

Markem

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 16/04/2007 10:41 AM

16/04/2007 1:11 PM

On 16 Apr 2007 10:15:30 -0700, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Apr 16, 11:41 am, Markem <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The only electric guitar I want is the original Les Paul, he made it
>> out of a 4x4. Heard him play it once at an AES convention.
>>
>What-the-hay, why not a 1959? A 1959 Les Paul in good condition can be
>easily priced between $100,000 and $500,000.
>
>Unfortunately, Les Paul had very little to do with any of the Les Paul
>designs.
>Gibson designed and built a guitar, Les Paul picked the colour and
>allowed Gibson to put on his name.

Probably a good thing having seen the original, it weren't purty till
he played it.

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618


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