JJ

Joe >

25/04/2012 8:56 PM

Re: Fluorescent light question


Some good ideas, no winners, though.

No starters, just the ballasts. Used starters on the fish
tanks for years so I knew what to look for. sorry I didn't
mention it to start with.

3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.

They have Sylvania WORKSHOP F40 bulbs that are
always replaced in pairs except for a GE SHOPLIGHT
I just stuck in - it does the same thing.

Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
dimly, then one or the other may come on.
-J


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FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

01/05/2012 8:02 PM

On Apr 26, 7:25=A0am, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 4/25/2012 6:27 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
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>
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>
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> >> Some good ideas, no winners, though.
>
> >> 3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
> >> the ground wire attached to a screw. =A0Connection is good.
> >> I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.
>
> > Well, if you do that, just make sure to wrap a #4 stranded copper aroun=
d it
> > to ward off skin effect...
>
> >> Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
> >> dimly, then one or the other may come on.
>
> > I have to say - I have never seen this happen. =A0Have you measured you=
r
> > voltage to ensure there's not a voltage problem? =A0This would really o=
nly be
> > a consideration if they are all on the same lighting circuit though.
>
> OR static electricity build up?? =A0I have seen a restaurant owner turn o=
n
> the switch to his out side florescent lights, and then use a broom to
> actually touch all of the tubes before they would come on. =A0He gently
> brushed them.

Almost certainly indicates a faulty ground.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

25/04/2012 7:27 PM

> Some good ideas, no winners, though.

> 3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
> the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
> I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.

Well, if you do that, just make sure to wrap a #4 stranded copper around it
to ward off skin effect...


>
> Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
> dimly, then one or the other may come on.
>

I have to say - I have never seen this happen. Have you measured your
voltage to ensure there's not a voltage problem? This would really only be
a consideration if they are all on the same lighting circuit though.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

25/04/2012 9:06 PM

Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com <invalid>> writes:
>
>Some good ideas, no winners, though.
>
>No starters, just the ballasts. Used starters on the fish
>tanks for years so I knew what to look for. sorry I didn't
>mention it to start with.
>
>3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
>the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
>I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.
>
>They have Sylvania WORKSHOP F40 bulbs that are
>always replaced in pairs except for a GE SHOPLIGHT
>I just stuck in - it does the same thing.
>
>Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
>dimly, then one or the other may come on.
>-J
>

The ballasts may be overheating. is there air space between
the fixture and the ceiling?

Otherwise, the ballasts probably need replacement.

scott

Ll

Leon

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

26/04/2012 6:25 AM

On 4/25/2012 6:27 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Some good ideas, no winners, though.
>
>> 3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
>> the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
>> I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.
>
> Well, if you do that, just make sure to wrap a #4 stranded copper around it
> to ward off skin effect...
>
>
>>
>> Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
>> dimly, then one or the other may come on.
>>
>
> I have to say - I have never seen this happen. Have you measured your
> voltage to ensure there's not a voltage problem? This would really only be
> a consideration if they are all on the same lighting circuit though.
>

OR static electricity build up?? I have seen a restaurant owner turn on
the switch to his out side florescent lights, and then use a broom to
actually touch all of the tubes before they would come on. He gently
brushed them.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

25/04/2012 4:45 PM

Buy a new ballast for one, install it and see if there is any change,
for the good, in that light. If so, change the ballasts. If not,
then it's probably a ground issue.

Replacing the fixtures, maybe? I bought seven 4-bulb fixtures (T-8
bulbs) for $35 a piece at Lowes. I didn't think that was a high
price. I got one "damaged" fixture (broken bulb only) for $10.
Check for damaged fixtures for discount purchasing.... at Home Depot,
also.

Sonny

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

25/04/2012 2:27 PM


"Joe >" <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com <invalid> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Some good ideas, no winners, though.
>
> No starters, just the ballasts. Used starters on the fish
> tanks for years so I knew what to look for. sorry I didn't
> mention it to start with.
>
> 3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
> the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
> I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.
>
> They have Sylvania WORKSHOP F40 bulbs that are
> always replaced in pairs except for a GE SHOPLIGHT
> I just stuck in - it does the same thing.
>
> Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
> dimly, then one or the other may come on.
> -J
>

It's possible that your ground wire isn't actually connected to a
good solid ground. Easy to test and risky not to.
Art

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Joe > on 25/04/2012 8:56 PM

25/04/2012 5:43 PM

Run a ground wire to your pipes... maybe the ground is faulty..
You can check with a meter and see if hot and ground show voltage. If
they do your good.


On 4/25/2012 4:56 PM, Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com wrote:
> Some good ideas, no winners, though.
>
> No starters, just the ballasts. Used starters on the fish
> tanks for years so I knew what to look for. sorry I didn't
> mention it to start with.
>
> 3 of 4 are grounded using a 3-wire cord, the other has
> the ground wire attached to a screw. Connection is good.
> I could try a 12' ground rod through the floor, I guess.
>
> They have Sylvania WORKSHOP F40 bulbs that are
> always replaced in pairs except for a GE SHOPLIGHT
> I just stuck in - it does the same thing.
>
> Switch good - when turned on in warm weather they glow
> dimly, then one or the other may come on.
> -J
>


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