Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the yellow
PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
A few months ago I was considering replacing a door and jam assembly to my
out door storage room, the jam is starting to rot near the sill. Lowe's
offers a door jam guaranteed for life to not rot and it has no chemical to
aid in making it rot and insect proof.
Wood magazine has a short article on the new PT lumber that goes through a
double pressure steam treatment that on the second cycle gets cooked at over
400 degrees F. According to the article the second round in the PT process
makes the sugars and sap unsuitable as food for insects or for rot. All
that is used during this PT process is water and steam.
"Leon" wrote:
> Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the
> yellow PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
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Have you ever looked at "Plastic Lumber"?
Basically reclaimed HPDE (Plastic milk jugs) with color and filler
added.
Designed specifically for decks, docks and other outdoor wood
applications.
Lew
"Leon" wrote:
> Actually I am currently inquiring, however the door jam was
> something I was interested in that apparently comes with that
> product. BUT for future facia repairs aroung my roof, treated
> replaces cedar as it goes bad.
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SFWIW:
Have some tech & pricing info along with some samples headed my way
via snail mail.
If interested, will let you know what I get.
Lew
On Jan 24, 9:06=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0 Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? =A0NOT the y=
ellow
> PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
>
> A few months ago I was considering replacing a door and jam assembly to m=
y
> out door storage room, the jam is starting to rot near the sill. =A0Lowe'=
s
> offers a door jam guaranteed for life to not rot and it has no chemical t=
o
> aid in making it rot and insect proof.
>
> Wood magazine has a short article on the new PT lumber that goes through =
a
> double pressure steam treatment that on the second cycle gets cooked at o=
ver
> 400 degrees F. =A0According to the article the second round in the PT pro=
cess
> makes the sugars and sap unsuitable as food for =A0insects or for rot. =
=A0All
> that is used during this PT process is water and steam.
First I'm hearing of the stuff, so I did a quick search and came up
with this:
http://www.termawood.com/technology.html
Is that the stuff mentioned in Wood magazine? Looks interesting.
R
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the yellow
>> PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
> ---------------------------------------
> Have you ever looked at "Plastic Lumber"?
>
> Basically reclaimed HPDE (Plastic milk jugs) with color and filler added.
For decks that product is ok for the decking however it is not structural
and will sag if not properly supported. Wood still has to also be used for
decks.
> Designed specifically for decks, docks and other outdoor wood
> applications.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the yellow
>> PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
>>
>> A few months ago I was considering replacing a door and jam assembly to
>> my out door storage room, the jam is starting to rot near the sill.
>> Lowe's offers a door jam guaranteed for life to not rot and it has no
>> chemical to aid in making it rot and insect proof.
>>
>> Wood magazine has a short article on the new PT lumber that goes through
>> a double pressure steam treatment that on the second cycle gets cooked at
>> over 400 degrees F. According to the article the second round in the PT
>> process makes the sugars and sap unsuitable as food for insects or for
>> rot. All that is used during this PT process is water and steam.
>
> That sounds like it might be the process for Heat Treated lumber used for
> export crating. I understand it is stamped HT not PT.
While it might sound like that process the uses are for exterior trim for
housing and decking.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> For decks that product is ok for the decking however it is not
>> structural and will sag if not properly supported. Wood still has to
>> also be used for decks.
> ------------------------------
> Didn't realize your application was structural.
>
> Lew
Actually I am currently inquiring, however the door jam was something I was
interested in that apparently comes with that product. BUT for future
facia repairs aroung my roof, treated replaces cedar as it goes bad.
The 'board' of plastic is heavy. Might not hang well due to weight.
And screw with self drilling is used or holes.
Martin
Leon wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> For decks that product is ok for the decking however it is not
>>> structural and will sag if not properly supported. Wood still has to
>>> also be used for decks.
>> ------------------------------
>> Didn't realize your application was structural.
>>
>> Lew
>
> Actually I am currently inquiring, however the door jam was something I was
> interested in that apparently comes with that product. BUT for future
> facia repairs aroung my roof, treated replaces cedar as it goes bad.
>
>
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:37b23e3f-2615-49ce-b215-7ce8270b57a6@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 24, 9:06 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> First I'm hearing of the stuff, so I did a quick search and came up
> with this:
> http://www.termawood.com/technology.html
> Is that the stuff mentioned in Wood magazine? Looks interesting.
Could this be the proprietary treatment Jeld-Wen advertises for their
Auralast windows?
Dave in Houston
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:37b23e3f-2615-49ce-b215-7ce8270b57a6@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
First I'm hearing of the stuff, so I did a quick search and came up
with this:
http://www.termawood.com/technology.html
Is that the stuff mentioned in Wood magazine? Looks interesting.
R
First off I indicated PT lumber, I will correct that to Thermally Modified
wood.
The site you indicated looks like the same thing. Apparently this type wood
has been available in Europe since the 90's and is only now beginning to be
seen in the USA.
www.radiance-wood.com
www.ecoperm.com
www.purewoodproducts.com
www.cambiawood.com
are the references sited by Wood Magazine.
Claims indicate less likely to warp, is more dimensionally stable, and the
wood becomes harder. Predrilling near the ends of boards is recommended to
prevent splitting and the wood will fade to a silvery gray more quickly than
normal when in sun light. Cost right now appears to be about 2x that of PTP
and about the same as Western red cedar.
On 01/25/2010 12:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Have you ever looked at "Plastic Lumber"?
>
> Basically reclaimed HPDE (Plastic milk jugs) with color and filler
> added.
>
> Designed specifically for decks, docks and other outdoor wood
> applications.
I've seen it in park benches as well. It's got hardly any structural
strength, especially when it gets really hot out.
Chris
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> For decks that product is ok for the decking however it is not
>> structural and will sag if not properly supported. Wood still has
>> to also be used for decks.
> ------------------------------
> Didn't realize your application was structural.
>
> Lew
>
Testing:
You getting my posts, Lew?
Bill
I bought a board for my weather station platform.
I figure it would hang in there and so far it has.
Cutting it was a pain in the xxx - remember plastic.
Consider a saw cutting - it cuts nicely, but you have to
pick up the strings of plastic. It won't rot or decay away!
It becomes the pollution issue on that product line.
Simply put a tarp down and cut above it.
I wished they made solid 2x2 or 4x4 but hollow cores are the facts.
What I dislike on it in decks -
Martin
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the
>> yellow PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
> ---------------------------------------
> Have you ever looked at "Plastic Lumber"?
>
> Basically reclaimed HPDE (Plastic milk jugs) with color and filler
> added.
>
> Designed specifically for decks, docks and other outdoor wood
> applications.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does any one have any experience with the new PT lumber? NOT the yellow
> PT that was introduced 6~8 years ago.
>
> A few months ago I was considering replacing a door and jam assembly to my
> out door storage room, the jam is starting to rot near the sill. Lowe's
> offers a door jam guaranteed for life to not rot and it has no chemical to
> aid in making it rot and insect proof.
>
> Wood magazine has a short article on the new PT lumber that goes through a
> double pressure steam treatment that on the second cycle gets cooked at
> over 400 degrees F. According to the article the second round in the PT
> process makes the sugars and sap unsuitable as food for insects or for
> rot. All that is used during this PT process is water and steam.
That sounds like it might be the process for Heat Treated lumber used for
export crating. I understand it is stamped HT not PT.
John
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>> Actually I am currently inquiring, however the door jam was something I
>> was interested in that apparently comes with that product. BUT for
>> future facia repairs aroung my roof, treated replaces cedar as it goes
>> bad.
> --------------------------------------
> SFWIW:
>
> Have some tech & pricing info along with some samples headed my way via
> snail mail.
>
> If interested, will let you know what I get.
>
> Lew
Yeah, thanks Lew, that would be great.