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"Greg O"

05/10/2003 2:49 PM

Harbor Freight dust collector

Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight), and
also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it on
sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
Greg


This topic has 17 replies

jj

j

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 7:41 PM

Greg O wrote:

> That is what I was looking for! I think I will give it a try. With that
> price I can still upgrade to better bags and still be below anyone's price.
> Too bad the $119 price is over!


You have to learn how to play the HF pricing games. Click on order from
catalog and Use the model no 45378-3vga you'll get it for $149, try
other numbers like 45378-5vga too. Also go to the Woodnet.net forums
and ask people for help getting the best prices and for coupons.

jw

LS

Lance Spaulding

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

07/10/2003 4:06 PM

Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
> collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight), and
> also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it on
> sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
> Greg


I've had this unit for a couple years without any problems at
all. I also recently found the following site specifically
regarding this unit:

http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/WoodNet%20HFDC%20Thread.htm

Lance

LS

Lance Spaulding

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 4:46 PM

Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Lance Spaulding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
>> > collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight),
> and
>> > also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it
> on
>> > sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
>> > Greg
>>
>>
>> I've had this unit for a couple years without any problems at
>> all. I also recently found the following site specifically
>> regarding this unit:
>>
>> http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/WoodNet%20HFDC%20Thread.htm
>>
>> Lance

> That is what I was looking for! I think I will give it a try. With that
> price I can still upgrade to better bags and still be below anyone's price.
> Too bad the $119 price is over!
> Thanks.
> Greg



I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist specializing
in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine. His comment
was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
matter what bags are on it. For now, I roll it out the door and use
a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
shed to house it.

Lance

HS

"Henry St.Pierre"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 11:28 PM

j wrote:
> Lance Spaulding wrote:
>
>> I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist
>> specializing in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine.
>> His comment
>> was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
>> wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
>> best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
>> matter what bags are on it.
>
>
>
> Well yes, but also a lot of the fine dust is in the air and never gets
> to the DC. A complete system should include an air cleaner as well.
>
> For now, I roll it out the door and use
>
>> a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
>> shed to house it.
>
>
>
> Great if you can afford to heat and air condition the outdoors
>
Have you folks ever considered a 'clean room'? That with <5 micron
coveralls, forced air protective breathing apparatus should keep you
safe from any and all bad things in the shop (I not sure about anything
you may ingest prior to putting on gloves after handling wood or
supplies before entry to the airlock.
Kidding aside, collect dust because it makes a friggin' mess and is a
PITA to sweep. For fine filtering and air cleaning, an over the nose
mask or painting respirator will do fine, or do as I do; rely on nasal
hair and snot.
Hank



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Lance Spaulding

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 1:55 PM

Henry St.Pierre <[email protected]> wrote:
> j wrote:
>> Lance Spaulding wrote:
>>
>>> I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist
>>> specializing in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine.
>>> His comment
>>> was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
>>> wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
>>> best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
>>> matter what bags are on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well yes, but also a lot of the fine dust is in the air and never gets
>> to the DC. A complete system should include an air cleaner as well.
>>
>> For now, I roll it out the door and use
>>
>>> a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
>>> shed to house it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Great if you can afford to heat and air condition the outdoors
>>
> Have you folks ever considered a 'clean room'? That with <5 micron
> coveralls, forced air protective breathing apparatus should keep you
> safe from any and all bad things in the shop (I not sure about anything
> you may ingest prior to putting on gloves after handling wood or
> supplies before entry to the airlock.
> Kidding aside, collect dust because it makes a friggin' mess and is a
> PITA to sweep. For fine filtering and air cleaning, an over the nose
> mask or painting respirator will do fine, or do as I do; rely on nasal
> hair and snot.
> Hank

I'm not trying to acheive a clean-room with no dust but I do want
to reduce as much as possible (both for health reasons and because
it's a pain to clean up). In my case, I decided against buying
the finer bags because I was informed it still wouldn't stop all
the fine dust that forms on everything by the dust collector.
For me, it's pretty simple to just put it outside and be done with
it so that's what I'm doing. If I ever add heat to my shop, I
might need to rethink it but I doubt it -- my dust collector just
doesn't run often enough to worry about it.

Lance


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Oughtsix

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

07/10/2003 10:55 PM

I was looking at this model in the local Hf store the other day. I
almost walked with one until I figured out that the $89 sale price tag
referred to the 1 hp model behind it.

I would also like to know whether or not it sucks?




On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:49:39 -0500, "Greg O" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
>collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight), and
>also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it on
>sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
>Greg
>

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 9:56 PM

Lance Spaulding <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

<snip orig. post>
>
> I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist specializing
> in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine. His comment
> was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
> wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
> best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
> matter what bags are on it. For now, I roll it out the door and use
> a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
> shed to house it.
>
> Lance

A fine idea that often is the best solution. However, note that if
you're working in an air-conditioned or heated workshop, that sucker
is going to suck all the heated/conditioned air out of your workshop
in short order. That kind of heating drain can cost.

H.

BB

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

08/10/2003 3:19 AM

"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
> collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight), and
> also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it on
> sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
> Greg

I don't buy anything from Sears. Never have. Never will. I hate cheap
assholes like you who are always trying to save a buck.

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 3:38 AM

Henry St.Pierre wrote:

> do as I do; rely on nasal hair and snot.

This site really opened my eyes about dust collection. I suggest you look
it over if you haven't.

http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/

-- Mark

cc

cdg

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

08/10/2003 9:08 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I was looking at this model in the local Hf store the other day. I
> almost walked with one until I figured out that the $89 sale price tag
> referred to the 1 hp model behind it.
>
> I would also like to know whether or not it sucks?

If it sucks, then it doesn't suck.
Or is it, if it doesn't suck, then it sucks?

;-)

jJ

[email protected] (James Hendrix)

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 8:11 PM

"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
> collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight), and
> also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it on
> sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
> Greg

I have the 2 hp model. Have it had almost a year and it works great.
I've put alot of hours on it. I did purchase on of those seperator
lids from Woodcraft and then a metal trash can. Great combo. Seldom
have to empty the bags on the dust collector as long as I keep the
metal trash can from getting full.

Think I paid around $140 or so.

James Hendrix

TG

The Guy

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 2:22 PM



Henry St.Pierre wrote:
<snip>

>> Great if you can afford to heat and air condition the outdoors
>>
> Have you folks ever considered a 'clean room'? That with <5 micron
> coveralls, forced air protective breathing apparatus should keep you
> safe from any and all bad things in the shop (I not sure about anything
> you may ingest prior to putting on gloves after handling wood or
> supplies before entry to the airlock.
> Kidding aside, collect dust because it makes a friggin' mess and is a
> PITA to sweep. For fine filtering and air cleaning, an over the nose
> mask or painting respirator will do fine, or do as I do; rely on nasal
> hair and snot.
> Hank
>
>
> <snip>

Are you using standard snot? Or have you upgraded to the gooey green stuff?


Tim

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"Greg O"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

08/10/2003 4:18 PM


"Lance Spaulding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
> > collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight),
and
> > also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it
on
> > sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
> > Greg
>
>
> I've had this unit for a couple years without any problems at
> all. I also recently found the following site specifically
> regarding this unit:
>
> http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/WoodNet%20HFDC%20Thread.htm
>
> Lance

That is what I was looking for! I think I will give it a try. With that
price I can still upgrade to better bags and still be below anyone's price.
Too bad the $119 price is over!
Thanks.
Greg

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 2:59 PM


"j" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Greg O wrote:
>
> > That is what I was looking for! I think I will give it a try. With that
> > price I can still upgrade to better bags and still be below anyone's
price.
> > Too bad the $119 price is over!
>
>
> You have to learn how to play the HF pricing games. Click on order from
> catalog and Use the model no 45378-3vga you'll get it for $149, try
> other numbers like 45378-5vga too. Also go to the Woodnet.net forums
> and ask people for help getting the best prices and for coupons.
>
> jw
>

Yes, I played with the numbers and the best I could find was $149. I ordered
one today.
Greg

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"Greg O"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

09/10/2003 5:56 PM


"Lance Spaulding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> > That is what I was looking for! I think I will give it a try. With that
> > price I can still upgrade to better bags and still be below anyone's
price.
> > Too bad the $119 price is over!
> > Thanks.
> > Greg
>
>
>
> I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist specializing
> in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine. His comment
> was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
> wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
> best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
> matter what bags are on it. For now, I roll it out the door and use
> a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
> shed to house it.
>
> Lance

I probably will replace the bags, but will check it out first. For the $149
price I can replace the bags and still be ahead of the game.
As far as putting the unit out side, I don't think that idea will work
during our North Dakota winters!
Greg

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"Greg O"

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 10:51 PM


"James Hendrix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Does anyone have the Harbor Freight 45378, 2 HP, (Sears HP!), dust
> > collector? I looks much like Grizzly's 1-1/2 HP unit,($239 + freight),
and
> > also the JDS unit, ($300 with 5 micron bags + freight). When HF has it
on
> > sale it goes for $150, no freight over $50.
> > Greg
>
> I have the 2 hp model. Have it had almost a year and it works great.
> I've put alot of hours on it. I did purchase on of those seperator
> lids from Woodcraft and then a metal trash can. Great combo. Seldom
> have to empty the bags on the dust collector as long as I keep the
> metal trash can from getting full.
>
> Think I paid around $140 or so.
>
> James Hendrix

Thanks!
Greg

jj

j

in reply to "Greg O" on 05/10/2003 2:49 PM

10/10/2003 12:50 AM

Lance Spaulding wrote:

> I talked with a close relative, who's an industrial hygenist specializing
> in respritory health, about buying better bags for mine. His comment
> was that, even if the bags filtered very fine particles, the seals
> wouldn't so I'd still be breathing the fine dust. He convinced me the
> best approach is to locate the whole unit outside and then it doesn't
> matter what bags are on it.


Well yes, but also a lot of the fine dust is in the air and never gets
to the DC. A complete system should include an air cleaner as well.

For now, I roll it out the door and use
> a long hose to connect to my piping, but eventually I'll build a small
> shed to house it.


Great if you can afford to heat and air condition the outdoors


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