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"dadiOH"

28/04/2010 9:55 AM

Bum toilet seat

A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
tiger maple.

The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.

One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

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"Max"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:21 AM

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> dadiOH wrote:
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick
>> on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of
>> the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any other
>> ideas?
>
> How about using lock nuts on the through bolts, so that you can snug the
> pivot point a bit such that the lid will stay in any position, without
> having to be opened all the way to the point where it will touch the tank?
> Might even then be possible to fab and install some sort of limiter on the
> pivot point so that the seat won't go all the way back to the tank.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]

LOL. I can see it now. A partially raised toilet lid. (hmmm. I wonder if
this is "safe")

Max (untrusting of "half measures")

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:23 AM

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote

>
> I think there are some shitty plans all over the place...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]

You didn't happen to watch the Goldman Sachs hearings did you? {:-)

Max


Jj

Joe

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 10:28 AM

On Apr 28, 8:55=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

>snip<

Keep the seat and replace the wretched toilet. Sounds to me like a
crappy design.

Joe

tt

terry

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 2:58 PM

On Apr 28, 5:32=A0pm, "DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > You didn't happen to watch the Goldman Sachs hearings did you? =A0{:-)
>
> As much as I could stand. =A0So they sold their clients mortgage-backed b=
onds
> while at the same time making (confident) bets those bonds would tank whe=
n
> the mortgages defaulted, but they see no legal or ethical problem with th=
at,
> no conflict of interest at all. =A0Meanwhile the Repubs are opposed to
> legislation tightening up regulations on the financial sector because...,
> well just because. =A0Traditionally I'm not a big fan of the Democrats, b=
ut at
> the moment it's as if the Republicans have totally lost their flippin'
> minds.
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/durst/index?
>
> Worst of Durst
> Saturday, April 24, 2010
>
> Hard to feel much sympathy for the Republicans and the sloppy pool of tiz=
zy
> they high- dived into. Perplexed as how to combat financial regulatory
> legislation, they are bouncing back and forth between a filibuster and a
> compromise like a ping- pong ball in a stainless steel shower stall. Thei=
r
> banker buddies have pushed hard to oppose any and all restrictions, placi=
ng
> the GOP in the unenviable position of having to defend Wall Street during=
an
> election year. Might want to practice by going to Sea World and rooting f=
or
> the sharks to eat the dolphins in front of your kids.
>
> At first, the party- line strategy was to affirm a unified opposition to =
the
> bill because it helped Wall Street. By regulating it. Yeah. Okay. Well,
> nobody said it was going to be an easy sell. All 41 GOP Senators signed a
> letter proclaiming steadfast opposition to any overhaul and if they had t=
o
> shut down the process, they were prepared to do so. It was going to be
> Health Care II, pertaining to something that distressed their constituent=
s
> even more than their health. This was about money.
>
> The banking industry then engaged in a full frontal assault: "It'll hurt =
the
> economy." You know what, if self- delusion were sand, these guys would be
> the Gobi Desert. What planet have they been living on for the last two
> years? Boys, do yourselves a favor; put down the Financial Times, pick up=
a
> local newspaper, and read about communities forced to cut such non-
> essential services as fire and police while you're racking up bonuses lar=
ger
> than those communities' shortfalls. Science has yet to develop instrument=
s
> capable of measuring this kind of arrogance. We need a new scale.
>
> Mitch McConnell and his ilk continued to give it the old college try; the
> Senator from Kentucky was locked in a "bailout" loop, muttering, shouting=
,
> whispering it into Mrs. Senate Minority Leader McConnell's ear. One
> unofficial estimate has him repeating the word "bailout" 3,847 times on
> April 19, 2010. A blatant attempt to tie into the GOP's revisionist histo=
ry
> of Wall Street's bailout being just another example of Obama's socialist
> agenda: conveniently forgetting that a Republican Administration proposed
> the bailout and Mr. McConnell and all his friends voted for it. Great,
> something new to worry about- a collective senior moment.
>
> The game changer award goes to the SEC, jumping into the ring like a
> wrestling cohort in street clothes, charging Goldman Sachs with bilking
> investors out of a billion dollars via a CDO designed to fail. This
> scattered the arm- locked ranks like a keg of tequila with a leaky spigot
> rolled into an AA meeting. We, the vast unwashed public wondered, if they=
're
> willing to screw their own customers, what untold horrors were held in st=
ore
> for us? The Commission's commissioners claim the timing was purely co-
> incidental. Unh- hunh. And chlorine soaked wood splinters make for excell=
ent
> eye swabs.
>
> The original idea for the New Obstructionists was to keep repeating the
> mantra that "guvmint is bad" and hope the voters never notice they have
> become their own best argument. Yeah, sure, Washington is broken. You ban=
g
> on a monument with sledgehammers long enough, eventually everyone becomes
> blind from marble dust. But now the GOP has to stumble back into those ru=
ins
> and somehow look supportive doing it. Hope they brought their swim goggle=
s.
>
> Will Durst is a San Francisco based political comic who often writes. Thi=
s
> being a conspicuous example.

Interesting we are not having those same problems in Canada, or only
very slightly as an outcome of the US fiasco.
Then recently Canadian government strengthened mortgage regulations a)
To not permit long (i.e. 35 year mortgages) which incur high amounts
of interest and helps make sure people don't take on mortgages n the
basis of initial very low interest rates and then bail out. b) Require
larger down payment for 'commercial' (speculative and for resale) That
is non personal home purchases! c) Interest rates expected to rise,
so consumer not allowed to borrow at rates below what they can
afford!
Despite these 'cutbacks' (some Americans would call them 'socialist
interference') the economy and housing industry seems to be recovering
nicely; here.
Yup a well regulated financial industry seems to be good idea!
BTW heard the expression "NINJA loans" other day .......... No income,
no job or assets!
Sounds bit like the antithesis of David Copperfield ............
"Please sir. Can I have more"!

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 4:20 PM

On Apr 29, 7:06=A0pm, aemeijers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Father Haskell wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 4:15 am, " Rumple Stiltskin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really ni=
ce
> >>> tiger maple.
> >>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch lo=
ng
> >>> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly =
and
> >>> has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
> >>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for way=
s to
> >>> avoid the lid/lid wear. =A0About all I can think of is to stick on so=
mething
> >>> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.
> >>> That would work OK but not look great. =A0Any other ideas?
> >> At the Borg one can find toilet seats & lids with slow closing lids. I=
IRC,
> >> the seats also close slowly and can be up in pretty much any position =
a few
> >> degrees short of 90. Go play with them. If you find something that mee=
ts
> >> your needs, either buy the whole thing and substitute your seat or get=
hold
> >> of the manufacturer and ask if they will sell you just the hardware.
>
> > Too expensive, too complicated. =A0The obvious, most elegant solution
> > is to toss the lid.
>
> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
> Just sayin'
>
> --
> aem sends...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No, never. Give it a dignified end, by framing it and
hanging it over the fireplace.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 8:00 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> aemeijers wrote:
>>
>>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child.
>>> He put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
>>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore
>> woodworker knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No
>> real heart and soul in the thing. One can over romaticize this
>> stuff.
>
> How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? The mere
> thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
> project, made to last.

Well I do have to agree that it would be a project. Calling the wife out to
the shop frequently to test fit. Running your hands over the smoothness of
it - and then checking the tiger maple too.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:40 PM

dadiOH wrote:

>
> You mean on the tube upon which the lid rotates? No bolts, alas,
> just a chrome tube that rotates inside the sleeved ends on the gizmo
> that bolts through the porcelain and has the hinges.

Nuts. And I thought I'd get this week's award for clever thinking.

Hell - bend the damned chrome tube a bit. Toilet seats are a lot like sex -
a little friction is good for the action.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

ww

whit3rd

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:32 PM

On Apr 28, 6:55=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top... =A0About all I can think of is to s=
tick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.

You could replace the tank top with a wooden one, carved to the seat
contour.
There are vinyl trim moldings (for cars) that could affix to the tank
below
the top, that could be regarded as a decorative bumper.
Or, you could rebuild the seat support so as to make the first ever
toilet seat that flips up to the side...

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 9:13 PM

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:13:28 -0400, the infamous
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> scrawled the
following:

>Mike Marlow wrote:
>> aemeijers wrote:
>>
>>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
>>> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
>>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore woodworker
>> knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No real heart and soul
>> in the thing. One can over romaticize this stuff.
>>
>
>How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? The mere
>thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
>project, made to last.

What struck me is that someone thought "Hey, that is one really cool
piece of wood. I think I'll take it and shit on it every morning."
YMMV.

--
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 8:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
<[email protected]> wrote:

> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
> would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

Reshape the seat? Or does it have to touch the tank to stay up?

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 6:33 PM

In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
> >> nice tiger maple.
> >>
> >> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
> >> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
> >> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
> >>
> >> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
> >> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
> >> stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
> >> front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
> >> other ideas?
> >
> > Reshape the seat?
>
> > Or does it have to touch the tank to stay up?
>
> Right.

Maybe a different mount assembly, then? One that will hold the seat up
on its own?

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:24 PM

LSMFT wrote:


LSMFT... Loose strap means floppy tits. Or, something about tobacco...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

OO

Oren

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 6:11 PM

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:53:08 -0700, "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Either a stick-on bumper or a tiny dab of clear silicone...if
>> the silicone doesn't go on absolutely smoothe, it can be shaved
>> down with a razor blade. Or make a small stencil and just apply
>> a couple of extra coats of clear finish on the spot that touches
>> the tank.
>>
>> Maple toilet seat? What luxury :o)
>
>I'd go with a small dab of clear silicone on the tank, where the
>seat hits it. When cured, cut it off to a very minimal thickness
>and it'd never be noticed.

Drape some velvet over the tank lid?

..."doily - A small ornamental piece of lace or linen or paper used to
protect a surface from scratches by hard objects such as vases or
bowls; or to decorate a plate of food."

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

03/05/2010 3:06 PM

On May 2, 8:25=A0pm, [email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> dadiOH <[email protected]> wrote:
> >A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> >tiger maple.
>
> >The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> >where the lid touches the tank top...
>
> That's what happens when you fail to follow the established 'rules' for
> the proper use of such wood on that particular kind of a project.`
>
> The proper use of the maple in in constructing a flapper valve and ball-
> float.
>
> Remember what the traditional wisdom says -- 'Put a Tiger in your Tank!'

For the float, yes, but for the flapper, no. Maple is
too buoyant, you'd need something denser than
water, such as cocobolo.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 8:10 PM

On Apr 28, 9:55=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and =
has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. =A0About all I can think of is to stick on someth=
ing
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. =A0=
That
> would work OK but not look great. =A0Any other ideas?

That wear is from people leaning back. You need a smaller
lid... hopefully, you don't have a 1.6 gal tank.

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 2:15 PM

On 4/28/2010 1:37 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Apr 28, 1:28 pm, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 8:55 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> snip<
>>
>> Keep the seat and replace the wretched toilet. Sounds to me like a
>> crappy design.
>>
>> Joe
>
> I knew it would just be a matter of time before we flushed out the bad
> puns.

You're plumb crazy but probably feel trapped because no one ever
tanks you.

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:24 PM

DGDevin wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>
> Where did you find the plans? ;~)

I think there are some shitty plans all over the place...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 1:08 PM

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Apr 28, 1:28 pm, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:55 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >snip<
>
> Keep the seat and replace the wretched toilet. Sounds to me like a
> crappy design.
>
> Joe

>I knew it would just be a matter of time before we flushed out the bad
>puns.

I wouldn't waste my time with puns.

Max

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 3:41 PM

"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote

> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote

> Worst of Durst
> Saturday, April 24, 2010
>
> Hard to feel much sympathy for the Republicans and the sloppy pool of
> tizzy
> they high- dived into. Perplexed as how to combat financial regulatory
> legislation, they are bouncing back and forth between a filibuster and a
> compromise like a ping- pong ball in a stainless steel shower stall. Their
> banker buddies have pushed hard to oppose any and all restrictions,
> placing
> the GOP in the unenviable position of having to defend Wall Street during
> an
> election year. Might want to practice by going to Sea World and rooting
> for
> the sharks to eat the dolphins in front of your kids.
>
> At first, the party- line strategy was to affirm a unified opposition to
> the
> bill because it helped Wall Street. By regulating it. Yeah. Okay. Well,
> nobody said it was going to be an easy sell. All 41 GOP Senators signed a
> letter proclaiming steadfast opposition to any overhaul and if they had to
> shut down the process, they were prepared to do so. It was going to be
> Health Care II, pertaining to something that distressed their constituents
> even more than their health. This was about money.
>
> The banking industry then engaged in a full frontal assault: "It'll hurt
> the
> economy." You know what, if self- delusion were sand, these guys would be
> the Gobi Desert. What planet have they been living on for the last two
> years? Boys, do yourselves a favor; put down the Financial Times, pick up
> a
> local newspaper, and read about communities forced to cut such non-
> essential services as fire and police while you're racking up bonuses
> larger
> than those communities' shortfalls. Science has yet to develop instruments
> capable of measuring this kind of arrogance. We need a new scale.
>
> Mitch McConnell and his ilk continued to give it the old college try; the
> Senator from Kentucky was locked in a "bailout" loop, muttering, shouting,
> whispering it into Mrs. Senate Minority Leader McConnell's ear. One
> unofficial estimate has him repeating the word "bailout" 3,847 times on
> April 19, 2010. A blatant attempt to tie into the GOP's revisionist
> history
> of Wall Street's bailout being just another example of Obama's socialist
> agenda: conveniently forgetting that a Republican Administration proposed
> the bailout and Mr. McConnell and all his friends voted for it. Great,
> something new to worry about- a collective senior moment.
>
> The game changer award goes to the SEC, jumping into the ring like a
> wrestling cohort in street clothes, charging Goldman Sachs with bilking
> investors out of a billion dollars via a CDO designed to fail. This
> scattered the arm- locked ranks like a keg of tequila with a leaky spigot
> rolled into an AA meeting. We, the vast unwashed public wondered, if
> they're
> willing to screw their own customers, what untold horrors were held in
> store
> for us? The Commission's commissioners claim the timing was purely co-
> incidental. Unh- hunh. And chlorine soaked wood splinters make for
> excellent
> eye swabs.
>
> The original idea for the New Obstructionists was to keep repeating the
> mantra that "guvmint is bad" and hope the voters never notice they have
> become their own best argument. Yeah, sure, Washington is broken. You bang
> on a monument with sledgehammers long enough, eventually everyone becomes
> blind from marble dust. But now the GOP has to stumble back into those
> ruins
> and somehow look supportive doing it. Hope they brought their swim
> goggles.
>
> Will Durst is a San Francisco based political comic who often writes. This
> being a conspicuous example.

I appreciate you passing that on. If the situation wasn't so painful it
would be funnier.
But I was referring to the "shitty" comment someone made about the toilet
seat and Carl Levin's references to the e-mail.

Max



LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 8:10 PM


<[email protected]> wrote
>
> Maple toilet seat? What luxury :o)
>
I knew a couple guys who had a clear cast toliet seat cover with a big
marijauna leaf in it.

Apparently owning such an item was semi legal because the leaf could not be
smoked.

Making them on the other hand...


Lb

LSMFT

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:16 AM

dadiOH wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
> would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?
>
Paste a piece of flat rubber over the defect.

--
LSMFT

If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either..........

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 10:56 AM

dadiOH wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
> nice tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick
> on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of
> the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any other
> ideas?

How about using lock nuts on the through bolts, so that you can snug the
pivot point a bit such that the lid will stay in any position, without
having to be opened all the way to the point where it will touch the tank?
Might even then be possible to fab and install some sort of limiter on the
pivot point so that the seat won't go all the way back to the tank.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 10:44 AM

On 4/29/2010 7:42 PM, DGDevin wrote:
<SNIP>
> President Bush has approved a $17.4 billion auto bailout, with $13.4 billion
> in emergency loans to prevent the collapse of GM and Chrysler and another $4
> billion to be handed out in February.
>

That's right, Bush was foolish too. But let us put this in context,
shall we. The entire accrued national debt of the US through the end
of the Bush presidency (some 220 years total) was just a bit over $5
trillion. That's ALL remaining unpaid debt incurred by ALL US
governments in history since the signing of the Constitution.

In the next three years, the Obama policies will inflict and
*additional* $4+ trillion. Obama is - in only 3 years - going to do
almost as much debt infusion as the entire history of government
before him. Worse still, Obama's policies - NOT Bush's, Clinton's,
Bush 41's, Reagan's, but *Obama's* - are estimated to grow the debt to
$18 trillion by 2020 (and that's just an estimate - government math is
always wrong).

So I'd say that - in context - Obama has spent, far, far, far, far,
far more money we do not have AND has ratcheted up the debt much more
rapidly than the productivity and GDP of the nation can sustain.
That's a real problem. That's a real problem no matter which direction
you swing politically. You already have half the nation mooching off
the other half. With this kind of debt load, the half that pays taxes
is going to be crushed to the point where GDP growth will stagnate
very badly. Couple that with a declining post-boomer workforce
and you're in for a very rocky ride.

The answer from the political chattering classes - whether they'll
admit it or not - is to encourage inflation. That way, old debt gets
retired with new, more useless dollars. They also like it because an
inflating economy drives salaries up and that drives people into
incrementally higher tax brackets.

Why did all this happen? Because this administration is animated by a
puerile and demonstrably false political theology. They think that
government can "fix" economies. They think that government is the
answer to all known problems from healthcare to education to running
the biggest financial institutions in the world. They conveniently
edit out the government's own responsibility for this whole mess in
their narrative as they go on witch hunts against bankers and
eeeeeeeevil corporate execs.

Yes, Bush was wrong about lots of things. But his sins are minor and
rounding error compared to the fiscal insanity of the Obama
administration. Even his entire war budget ends up being a minor term
in the equation of debt that Obama has produced. In the mean time, and
as just one example, the US and Canadian taxpayers are out $52B to
bail out the unions at GM.

This is what happens when freshman philosophy majors run the country,
not mature adults.
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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 10:31 PM

aemeijers wrote:

>
> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
> Just sayin'

Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore woodworker
knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No real heart and soul
in the thing. One can over romaticize this stuff.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

KU

Kurt Ullman

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 11:58 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:


> The answer from the political chattering classes - whether they'll
> admit it or not - is to encourage inflation. That way, old debt gets
> retired with new, more useless dollars. They also like it because an
> inflating economy drives salaries up and that drives people into
> incrementally higher tax brackets.

Probably not on tax brackets. One of Reagan's tax law changes was to
index the brackets to inflation, specifically so this won't happen.

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I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:37 AM

On Apr 28, 1:28=A0pm, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:55=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >snip<
>
> Keep the seat and replace the wretched toilet. Sounds to me like a
> crappy design.
>
> Joe

I knew it would just be a matter of time before we flushed out the bad
puns.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:30 PM

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Apr 28, 9:55 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick
>> on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of
>> the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?
>
> Aside from the looks, there's the risk that it will cause the seat and
> lid
> to fall down unexpectedly. We used to get that when extremely wide
> magazines were left on top of the tank. My husband says it can be
> quite alarming to see the seat start to fall--the hand he's inclined
> to
> use to prevent its fall is already in use.

:)



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Cindy Hamilton

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 7:35 AM

On Apr 28, 9:55=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and =
has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. =A0About all I can think of is to stick on someth=
ing
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. =A0=
That
> would work OK but not look great. =A0Any other ideas?

Aside from the looks, there's the risk that it will cause the seat and
lid
to fall down unexpectedly. We used to get that when extremely wide
magazines were left on top of the tank. My husband says it can be
quite alarming to see the seat start to fall--the hand he's inclined
to
use to prevent its fall is already in use.

Cindy Hamilton

kk

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 8:21 PM

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:11:40 -0700, Oren <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:53:08 -0700, "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Either a stick-on bumper or a tiny dab of clear silicone...if
>>> the silicone doesn't go on absolutely smoothe, it can be shaved
>>> down with a razor blade. Or make a small stencil and just apply
>>> a couple of extra coats of clear finish on the spot that touches
>>> the tank.
>>>
>>> Maple toilet seat? What luxury :o)
>>
>>I'd go with a small dab of clear silicone on the tank, where the
>>seat hits it. When cured, cut it off to a very minimal thickness
>>and it'd never be noticed.
>
>Drape some velvet over the tank lid?
>
>..."doily - A small ornamental piece of lace or linen or paper used to
>protect a surface from scratches by hard objects such as vases or
>bowls; or to decorate a plate of food."

How about a tank cover? They seem to be out of fashion but they should be
available somewhere.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:35 PM

LSMFT wrote:
> dadiOH wrote:
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
>> stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
>> front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
>> other ideas?
> Paste a piece of flat rubber over the defect.

On top of my tiger maple? *NEVER*

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"DGDevin"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 5:42 PM


"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> DGDevin wrote:
>
>> Traditionally I'm not a big fan of the Democrats, but at the moment it's
>> as if the Republicans have totally lost their flippin' minds.
>
> The Democrats steal General Motors from the private sector, and now the
> government flat out OWNS one of the biggest companies in the US, and you
> think the Republicans lost their flippin' minds.

Oh grow up, if the govt. had not stepped in (and the fellow you want to talk
to there was actually named Bush, remember?) GM would have maybe emerged
from bankruptcy able to make golf carts and dune buggies.

> Yeah, right, you're not traditionally a democrat, perhaps more of a
> socialist.

Even if that were true I think I'd prefer it to being a right-wingnut who
would rather cut off a thumb than admit the Democrats are not the source of
all evil in the world. The Dems can and will screw-up when given the
chance, they always have and they always will. But the other side of that
coin is the Repubs are matching them blunder for blunder, and lately they're
pulled ahead in the screw-up race. But for some reason some people have
trouble seeing that, don't they. Some people would rather blame the party
they disapprove of whether it makes sense to do so or not, wouldn't they.

http://consumerist.com/2008/12/bush-approves-auto-industry-bailout.html

Bush Approves Auto Industry Bailout
By Meg Marco on December 19, 2008 6:29 PM

President Bush has approved a $17.4 billion auto bailout, with $13.4 billion
in emergency loans to prevent the collapse of GM and Chrysler and another $4
billion to be handed out in February.

The loans are meant to be a lifeline - and will keep the companies afloat
until March 31st. At that point, says the NYT, the Obama administration will
"determine if the automakers are meeting the conditions of the loans and
will continue to receive government aid or must repay the loans and face
bankruptcy."

The terms of the bailout are almost identical to the plan rejected by
Republicans in the Senate a week ago.

Mr. Bush made his announcement a week after Senate Republicans blocked an
automaker bailout that had been negotiated by the White House and
Congressional Democrats. The loan package announced by the president
includes requirements that are roughly identical to those in that bill,
which was approved by the House.

Mr. Bush, in a televised speech before the opening of the markets, said that
under other circumstances he would have let the companies fail, a
consequence of their bad business decisions. But given the recession, he
said the government had no choice but to step in.

"These are not ordinary circumstances," Mr. Bush said. "In the midst of a
financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to
collapse is not a responsible course of action."

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:45 PM

DGDevin wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>
> Where did you find the plans? ;~)

No place. It all started when I redid a bathroom in the condo we were
living in at the time. New bathroom needs a new seat, right?

Right. Bought a nice oak one, it split in no time. No good way to clamp it
to draw it together so I put in a spline. That worked OK but I kept
thinking, "Why do they make a seat that is designed to fail, I could do
better?". So I did.

The old one had boards that had been edge joined then a hole cut out. Lot
of weight on the joints, nothing to support some of them. I made mine with
half lap joints, the underside bumpers supported all. It worked so well I
made 16 of them one time as Christmas gifts for friends. All koa (I lived
in Honolulu at the time). Beautiful.

We still have one of koa plus two tiger maple plus one of walnut with a burl
top.

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"DGDevin"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:05 PM


"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> We still have one of koa plus two tiger maple plus one of walnut with a
> burl top.

One would almost be ashamed to put such a work of art to such a, err, basic
use. Photos?

aa

aemeijers

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 7:06 PM

Father Haskell wrote:
> On Apr 29, 4:15 am, " Rumple Stiltskin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>>> tiger maple.
>>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
>>> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and
>>> has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
>>> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
>>> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.
>>> That would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?
>> At the Borg one can find toilet seats & lids with slow closing lids. IIRC,
>> the seats also close slowly and can be up in pretty much any position a few
>> degrees short of 90. Go play with them. If you find something that meets
>> your needs, either buy the whole thing and substitute your seat or get hold
>> of the manufacturer and ask if they will sell you just the hardware.
>
> Too expensive, too complicated. The obvious, most elegant solution
> is to toss the lid.

To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
Just sayin'

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Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 9:05 AM


"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>tiger maple.

Where did you find the plans? ;~)

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:33 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> dadiOH wrote:
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick
>> on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of
>> the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any other
>> ideas?
>
> How about using lock nuts on the through bolts, so that you can snug
> the pivot point a bit such that the lid will stay in any position,
> without having to be opened all the way to the point where it will
> touch the tank? Might even then be possible to fab and install some
> sort of limiter on the pivot point so that the seat won't go all the
> way back to the tank.

You mean on the tube upon which the lid rotates? No bolts, alas, just a
chrome tube that rotates inside the sleeved ends on the gizmo that bolts
through the porcelain and has the hinges.

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"Dave In Texas"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 9:21 AM



"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and
> has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.
> That would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

Clear, self-adhesive cabinet door/drawer bumpers? I put one of those
near the top of a bathroom door casing to keep from scarring the adjacent
upper cabinet door.
If I ever noticed it, I quickly forgot it.

Dave in Houston

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:34 PM

Smitty Two wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
>> stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
>> front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
>> other ideas?
>
> Sure, make a wood tank lid.


That's not a bad idea, need more tiger maple though.



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"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:30 PM

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
>> stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
>> front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
>> other ideas?
>
> Reshape the seat?

> Or does it have to touch the tank to stay up?

Right.

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Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 2:05 PM

On Apr 30, 7:13=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > aemeijers wrote:
>
> >> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
> >> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
> >> Just sayin'
>
> > Yeah - sometimes. =A0But sometimes not. =A0Even the most hardcore woodw=
orker
> > knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. =A0No real heart a=
nd soul
> > in the thing. =A0One can over romaticize this stuff.
>
> How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? =A0The mere
> thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
> project, made to last.

Bolt on a neck and a set of pickups, make an
electric guitar out of it.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 3:55 PM

On Apr 29, 4:15=A0am, " Rumple Stiltskin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> >tiger maple.
>
> > The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> > where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly an=
d
> > has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> > One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways =
to
> > avoid the lid/lid wear. =A0About all I can think of is to stick on some=
thing
> > soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.
> > That would work OK but not look great. =A0Any other ideas?
>
> At the Borg one can find toilet seats & lids with slow closing lids. IIRC=
,
> the seats also close slowly and can be up in pretty much any position a f=
ew
> degrees short of 90. Go play with them. If you find something that meets
> your needs, either buy the whole thing and substitute your seat or get ho=
ld
> of the manufacturer and ask if they will sell you just the hardware.

Too expensive, too complicated. The obvious, most elegant solution
is to toss the lid.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 7:21 PM

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:33:42 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:

>In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> > In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>> >> nice tiger maple.
>> >>
>> >> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>> >> long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>> >> slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>> >>
>> >> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>> >> ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
>> >> stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
>> >> front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
>> >> other ideas?
>> >
>> > Reshape the seat?
>>
>> > Or does it have to touch the tank to stay up?
>>
>> Right.
>
>Maybe a different mount assembly, then? One that will hold the seat up
>on its own?

I bought a nice Kohler terlit and it's built to handle a thick, padded
seat, which I promptly installed. _I_ don't freeze my butt in the
morning, thankyouverymuch. Better terlits have a deeper space between
the tank and seat bold pattern, so all seats stay up, plain and
padded. I liked the oblong Kohler because of the deep bowl. I no
longer go trolling in that cold water. <g> Having the padded seat
stay up was a nice freebie.

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i can live without the necessities * 2 Tee collections online
-------------------------------------------------------------

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 4:32 PM

whit3rd wrote:

>
> You could replace the tank top with a wooden one, carved to the seat
> contour.
> There are vinyl trim moldings (for cars) that could affix to the tank
> below
> the top, that could be regarded as a decorative bumper.
> Or, you could rebuild the seat support so as to make the first ever
> toilet seat that flips up to the side...

A moment of creative genius, inspired by whit3rd's words...

Hinge it in the front! Flip it forward, towards you. Think about the
benefits - no more drips on the floor 'cause you'll have to stick it through
the hole to pee. Create hours of entertainment for all the boys in the
family as they stand back 3 feet and pee through the hole. (Better than
writing your name in the snow). Hours of hillarious laughter as you watch
your wife struggle to get he butt in place...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 10:59 PM

On May 1, 12:13=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:13:28 -0400, the infamous
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> scrawled the
> following:
>
> >Mike Marlow wrote:
> >> aemeijers wrote:
>
> >>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. H=
e
> >>> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
> >>> Just sayin'
>
> >> Yeah - sometimes. =A0But sometimes not. =A0Even the most hardcore wood=
worker
> >> knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. =A0No real heart =
and soul
> >> in the thing. =A0One can over romaticize this stuff.
>
> >How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? =A0The mere
> >thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
> >project, made to last.
>
> What struck me is that someone thought "Hey, that is one really cool
> piece of wood. I think I'll take it and shit on it every morning."
> YMMV.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.

It's an American thing.

md

mac davis

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 11:09 PM

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:55:56 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>tiger maple.
>
>The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
>where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
>worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
>One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
>avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
>soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
>would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

Thin silicon bumpers, maybe... Thin is the key word or the seat will not stay
up... DAMHIKT


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

jj

jeff_wisnia

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 4:27 PM

dadiOH wrote:

> Smitty Two wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really
>>>nice tiger maple.
>>>
>>>The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch
>>>long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
>>>slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>>>
>>>One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for
>>>ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
>>>stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the
>>>front of the tank top. That would work OK but not look great. Any
>>>other ideas?
>>
>>Sure, make a wood tank lid.
>
>
>
> That's not a bad idea, need more tiger maple though.
>
>
>

See Tiger Woods maybe....

Jeff

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in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 6:24 PM

On 4/28/2010 9:55 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
> would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

Get a short roll of 3M 8672 from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty for 20
bucks. Comes black or clear. It's less than .01 inch thick and is
designed to protect airplane parts from flying dust--it's very, very,
very durable. Cut a little button of it and put it in the appropriate
place--personally I'd use the black to make it an accent. It's thin
enough that it won't interfere with operation, durable enough that
you're not going to wear it out, and the rest of the roll is a handy
thing to have around.








SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 9:43 PM

Wrap the seat in duct tape?

More seriously, that's got to be a lot of lid banging to do
that much damage. I'm thinking you need some hard plastic
like what they use for making burger flippers.

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"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some
really nice
tiger maple.

The finish is still great on it except for one place about
an inch long
where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes
slightly and has
worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.

One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am
looking for ways to
avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to
stick on something
soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the
tank top. That
would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

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in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 1:15 AM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and
> has worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top.
> That would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?
>


At the Borg one can find toilet seats & lids with slow closing lids. IIRC,
the seats also close slowly and can be up in pretty much any position a few
degrees short of 90. Go play with them. If you find something that meets
your needs, either buy the whole thing and substitute your seat or get hold
of the manufacturer and ask if they will sell you just the hardware.

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 8:58 AM

DGDevin wrote:

> Traditionally I'm not a big fan of the Democrats, but at
> the moment it's as if the Republicans have totally lost their flippin'
> minds.

The Democrats steal General Motors from the private sector, and now the
government flat out OWNS one of the biggest companies in the US, and you
think the Republicans lost their flippin' minds.

Yeah, right, you're not traditionally a democrat, perhaps more of a
socialist.
--
Jack
News Flash: Government Motors (GM) fines their top competitor $16 mil.
http://jbstein.com

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 10:49 AM

DGDevin wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

>>
>>> Traditionally I'm not a big fan of the Democrats, but at the moment it's
>>> as if the Republicans have totally lost their flippin' minds.

>> The Democrats steal General Motors from the private sector, and now the
>> government flat out OWNS one of the biggest companies in the US, and you
>> think the Republicans lost their flippin' minds.

> Oh grow up, if the govt. had not stepped in (and the fellow you want to talk
> to there was actually named Bush, remember?)

No, I don't remember, nor do I care.

GM would have maybe emerged
> from bankruptcy able to make golf carts and dune buggies.

Perhaps, but anything is better than government owning our businesses.
If GM can't make money building cars, they should have gone out of
business, or sold it to someone that can make cars. It's how capitalism
works. Instead, we have Socialism, actually Communism, as government
owning and controlling business is how communism works, using the term
"works" loosely.

>> Yeah, right, you're not traditionally a democrat, perhaps more of a
>> socialist.

> Even if that were true I think I'd prefer it to being a right-wingnut who
> would rather cut off a thumb than admit the Democrats are not the source of
> all evil in the world.

Socialists are the source of all evil in the world. They only killed a
few hundred million over the last hundred years, that in itself is evil.

> The Dems can and will screw-up when given the
> chance, they always have and they always will.
> But the other side of that
> coin is the Repubs are matching them blunder for blunder, and lately they're
> pulled ahead in the screw-up race.

Yeah, well the issue is not Dem vs Repubs. You are out of touch. Keep
on hating Bush, blaming everything on Bush.

But for some reason some people have
> trouble seeing that, don't they.

People that watch the government controlled media, yeah, they are
brainwashed daily with hate Bush, hate Repuglicans crap. The socialist
pigs have taken over the democratic party and much of the republican
party, and that is where Americans " hate" should be focused.

Some people would rather blame the party
> they disapprove of whether it makes sense to do so or not, wouldn't they.

Only fools.

> http://consumerist.com/2008/12/bush-approves-auto-industry-bailout.html
> Bush Approves Auto Industry Bailout
> President Bush has approved a $17.4 billion auto bailout, with $13.4 billion
> in emergency loans to prevent the collapse of GM and Chrysler and another $4
> billion to be handed out in February.

Yeah, there's one now.

--
Jack
News Flash: Government Motors (GM) fines their top competitor $16 Mil.
http://jbstein.com

JW

"Joe Willis"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

02/05/2010 11:27 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
dadiOH <[email protected]> wrote:
>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>tiger maple.
>
>The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
>where the lid touches the tank top...

Maybe a piece from a pack of rubber non-slip shower floor stickons placed on
the tank top at the edge would prevent the finish from wearing off the
toilet lid.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 10:29 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> aemeijers wrote:
>>>
>>>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child.
>>>> He put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
>>>> Just sayin'
>>>
>>> Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore
>>> woodworker knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No
>>> real heart and soul in the thing. One can over romaticize this
>>> stuff.
>>
>> How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? The mere
>> thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
>> project, made to last.
>
> Well I do have to agree that it would be a project. Calling the wife
> out to the shop frequently to test fit. Running your hands over the
> smoothness of it - and then checking the tiger maple too.

Even though my wife is quite petite she has never fallen in. No splinters
either :)

--

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____________________________

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JE

Jim Elbrecht

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 1:51 PM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

-snip-
>
>We still have one of koa plus two tiger maple plus one of walnut with a burl
>top.

No Birch? I'm calling the Birch John Society to report you.

Jim

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 11:02 AM

On 4/30/2010 10:58 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> The answer from the political chattering classes - whether they'll
>> admit it or not - is to encourage inflation. That way, old debt gets
>> retired with new, more useless dollars. They also like it because an
>> inflating economy drives salaries up and that drives people into
>> incrementally higher tax brackets.
>
> Probably not on tax brackets. One of Reagan's tax law changes was to
> index the brackets to inflation, specifically so this won't happen.
>

How long do you suppose this will last in the current environment?

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Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 12:32 PM


"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> You didn't happen to watch the Goldman Sachs hearings did you? {:-)

As much as I could stand. So they sold their clients mortgage-backed bonds
while at the same time making (confident) bets those bonds would tank when
the mortgages defaulted, but they see no legal or ethical problem with that,
no conflict of interest at all. Meanwhile the Repubs are opposed to
legislation tightening up regulations on the financial sector because...,
well just because. Traditionally I'm not a big fan of the Democrats, but at
the moment it's as if the Republicans have totally lost their flippin'
minds.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/durst/index?

Worst of Durst
Saturday, April 24, 2010

Hard to feel much sympathy for the Republicans and the sloppy pool of tizzy
they high- dived into. Perplexed as how to combat financial regulatory
legislation, they are bouncing back and forth between a filibuster and a
compromise like a ping- pong ball in a stainless steel shower stall. Their
banker buddies have pushed hard to oppose any and all restrictions, placing
the GOP in the unenviable position of having to defend Wall Street during an
election year. Might want to practice by going to Sea World and rooting for
the sharks to eat the dolphins in front of your kids.

At first, the party- line strategy was to affirm a unified opposition to the
bill because it helped Wall Street. By regulating it. Yeah. Okay. Well,
nobody said it was going to be an easy sell. All 41 GOP Senators signed a
letter proclaiming steadfast opposition to any overhaul and if they had to
shut down the process, they were prepared to do so. It was going to be
Health Care II, pertaining to something that distressed their constituents
even more than their health. This was about money.

The banking industry then engaged in a full frontal assault: "It'll hurt the
economy." You know what, if self- delusion were sand, these guys would be
the Gobi Desert. What planet have they been living on for the last two
years? Boys, do yourselves a favor; put down the Financial Times, pick up a
local newspaper, and read about communities forced to cut such non-
essential services as fire and police while you're racking up bonuses larger
than those communities' shortfalls. Science has yet to develop instruments
capable of measuring this kind of arrogance. We need a new scale.

Mitch McConnell and his ilk continued to give it the old college try; the
Senator from Kentucky was locked in a "bailout" loop, muttering, shouting,
whispering it into Mrs. Senate Minority Leader McConnell's ear. One
unofficial estimate has him repeating the word "bailout" 3,847 times on
April 19, 2010. A blatant attempt to tie into the GOP's revisionist history
of Wall Street's bailout being just another example of Obama's socialist
agenda: conveniently forgetting that a Republican Administration proposed
the bailout and Mr. McConnell and all his friends voted for it. Great,
something new to worry about- a collective senior moment.

The game changer award goes to the SEC, jumping into the ring like a
wrestling cohort in street clothes, charging Goldman Sachs with bilking
investors out of a billion dollars via a CDO designed to fail. This
scattered the arm- locked ranks like a keg of tequila with a leaky spigot
rolled into an AA meeting. We, the vast unwashed public wondered, if they're
willing to screw their own customers, what untold horrors were held in store
for us? The Commission's commissioners claim the timing was purely co-
incidental. Unh- hunh. And chlorine soaked wood splinters make for excellent
eye swabs.

The original idea for the New Obstructionists was to keep repeating the
mantra that "guvmint is bad" and hope the voters never notice they have
become their own best argument. Yeah, sure, Washington is broken. You bang
on a monument with sledgehammers long enough, eventually everyone becomes
blind from marble dust. But now the GOP has to stumble back into those ruins
and somehow look supportive doing it. Hope they brought their swim goggles.

Will Durst is a San Francisco based political comic who often writes. This
being a conspicuous example.

Ns

"Nonny"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 3:53 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> dadiOH wrote:
>> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some
>> really nice tiger maple.
>>
>> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an
>> inch long where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top
>> protrudes slightly and has worn not only the lid finish but the
>> wood itself.
>>
>> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking
>> for ways to avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of
>> is to stick on something soft - like a soft plastic table
>> foot - to the front of the tank top. That would work OK but
>> not look great. Any other ideas?
>>
> Either a stick-on bumper or a tiny dab of clear silicone...if
> the silicone doesn't go on absolutely smoothe, it can be shaved
> down with a razor blade. Or make a small stencil and just apply
> a couple of extra coats of clear finish on the spot that touches
> the tank.
>
> Maple toilet seat? What luxury :o)

I'd go with a small dab of clear silicone on the tank, where the
seat hits it. When cured, cut it off to a very minimal thickness
and it'd never be noticed.

--
Nonny
Suppose you were an idiot.
And suppose you were a member
of Congress.... But then I repeat myself.'

-Mark Twain
.

ST

Smitty Two

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 7:57 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
> would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?

Sure, make a wood tank lid.

nn

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

30/04/2010 7:13 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> aemeijers wrote:
>
>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
>> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
>> Just sayin'
>
> Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore woodworker
> knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No real heart and soul
> in the thing. One can over romaticize this stuff.
>

How can one "over romanticize" a tiger maple toilet seat? The mere
thought gives me palpitations :o) Seriously, that would be a tough
project, made to last.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

02/05/2010 7:25 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
dadiOH <[email protected]> wrote:
>A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
>tiger maple.
>
>The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
>where the lid touches the tank top...

That's what happens when you fail to follow the established 'rules' for
the proper use of such wood on that particular kind of a project.`

The proper use of the maple in in constructing a flapper valve and ball-
float.


Remember what the traditional wisdom says -- 'Put a Tiger in your Tank!'


nn

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

28/04/2010 6:32 PM

dadiOH wrote:
> A number of years ago I made a wooden toilet seat from some really nice
> tiger maple.
>
> The finish is still great on it except for one place about an inch long
> where the lid touches the tank top...the tank top protrudes slightly and has
> worn not only the lid finish but the wood itself.
>
> One of these days I'm going to refinsh the lid and am looking for ways to
> avoid the lid/lid wear. About all I can think of is to stick on something
> soft - like a soft plastic table foot - to the front of the tank top. That
> would work OK but not look great. Any other ideas?
>
Either a stick-on bumper or a tiny dab of clear silicone...if the
silicone doesn't go on absolutely smoothe, it can be shaved down with a
razor blade. Or make a small stencil and just apply a couple of extra
coats of clear finish on the spot that touches the tank.

Maple toilet seat? What luxury :o)

md

mac davis

in reply to "dadiOH" on 28/04/2010 9:55 AM

29/04/2010 11:14 PM

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:31:17 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>aemeijers wrote:
>
>>
>> To a hardcore woodworker, that is like asking them to toss a child. He
>> put a chunk of his soul in making the thing.
>> Just sayin'
>
>Yeah - sometimes. But sometimes not. Even the most hardcore woodworker
>knocks out some utilitarian stuff from time to time. No real heart and soul
>in the thing. One can over romaticize this stuff.

I think it also depends on how good the work was and if you've improved a lot
since then..
I see some of my early stuff sometimes and it really sucked.. lol


mac

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