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sam

23/01/2010 4:41 PM

Semi-gloat, shaves and scrapers

Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
One No. 82 scraper, no blade
One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence

All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.

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allen476

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

23/01/2010 5:52 PM

On Jan 23, 5:41=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>
> All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>
>

You took advantage of my poor sick grandfather. That box was my
inheritance. If you send it to me, I will make sure that he sends you
a check for the amount you paid.

Nice job

Allen

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

23/01/2010 5:22 PM

In article <[email protected]>, sam
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>
> All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.

You semi-suck.

Nice score. For $25, I'd be calling it a full gloat.

RN

Roy

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

24/01/2010 1:41 AM

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
>One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
>One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
>One No. 82 scraper, no blade
>One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>
>All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>
>s

Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
months ago.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

26/01/2010 1:52 AM

sam <[email protected]> writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
>@comcast.net says...
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:50 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
>> >@comcast.net says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
>> >> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
>> >> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
>> >> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
>> >> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>> >> >
>> >> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>> >> >
>> >> >s
>> >>
>> >> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
>> >> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
>> >> months ago.
>> >
>> >
>> >I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
>> >finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
>> >sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
>> >a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
>> >and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.
>> >
>> >s
>>
>> I've got a small Hock that came with a chisel plane kit one of the guys in the hand tool group gave
>> me. Tiny as it is, it is an impressive piece of steel. I scarey sharpened it to 1500 grit.
>>
>> A couple guys in our group have noted improvements when switching to Hock blades from the standard
>> Stanley's. I never thought to ask if they got $30-50 worth of improvement from the upgrade. If it
>> solved a chatter issue, I'm sure they sure did.
>>
>> My #80 (scraper, Jeff) came with a piece of saw blade for the scraper, and I think it is a little
>> too soft. I recently bought a #12, (a bigger scraper, Jeff) with no blade, so decided to order a
>> Hock from these folks before the sale ends this month. I've never dealt with them before, so we
>> will see how it goes.
>>
>> http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/html_p/hand_tools.htm
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roy
>
>With the new (old) 80 card scraper and new (old) 82 scraper,
>I had planned to take my hand card scraper from Rocker ($7.98
>I think; it's probably 4" by 7") and cut 1/3 of it for the
>82 and keep the other 2/3 for the 80 card scraper. Maybe I'm
>too cheap.
>

Card scraper may not be thick enough for the 82.

scott

sn

sam

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

24/01/2010 9:49 AM

In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
@comcast.net says...
>
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
> >
> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
> >
> >s
>
> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
> months ago.


I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.

s

sn

sam

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

25/01/2010 5:54 PM

In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
@comcast.net says...
>
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:50 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
> >@comcast.net says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> >> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> >> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> >> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> >> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
> >> >
> >> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
> >> >
> >> >s
> >>
> >> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
> >> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
> >> months ago.
> >
> >
> >I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
> >finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
> >sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
> >a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
> >and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.
> >
> >s
>
> I've got a small Hock that came with a chisel plane kit one of the guys in the hand tool group gave
> me. Tiny as it is, it is an impressive piece of steel. I scarey sharpened it to 1500 grit.
>
> A couple guys in our group have noted improvements when switching to Hock blades from the standard
> Stanley's. I never thought to ask if they got $30-50 worth of improvement from the upgrade. If it
> solved a chatter issue, I'm sure they sure did.
>
> My #80 (scraper, Jeff) came with a piece of saw blade for the scraper, and I think it is a little
> too soft. I recently bought a #12, (a bigger scraper, Jeff) with no blade, so decided to order a
> Hock from these folks before the sale ends this month. I've never dealt with them before, so we
> will see how it goes.
>
> http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/html_p/hand_tools.htm
>
>
> Regards,
> Roy

With the new (old) 80 card scraper and new (old) 82 scraper,
I had planned to take my hand card scraper from Rocker ($7.98
I think; it's probably 4" by 7") and cut 1/3 of it for the
82 and keep the other 2/3 for the 80 card scraper. Maybe I'm
too cheap.

s

sn

sam

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

25/01/2010 9:04 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> sam <[email protected]> writes:
> >In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
> >@comcast.net says...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:50 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
> >> >@comcast.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> >> >> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> >> >> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> >> >> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> >> >> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
> >> >> >
> >> >> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >s
> >> >>
> >> >> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
> >> >> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
> >> >> months ago.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
> >> >finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
> >> >sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
> >> >a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
> >> >and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.
> >> >
> >> >s
> >>
> >> I've got a small Hock that came with a chisel plane kit one of the guys in the hand tool group gave
> >> me. Tiny as it is, it is an impressive piece of steel. I scarey sharpened it to 1500 grit.
> >>
> >> A couple guys in our group have noted improvements when switching to Hock blades from the standard
> >> Stanley's. I never thought to ask if they got $30-50 worth of improvement from the upgrade. If it
> >> solved a chatter issue, I'm sure they sure did.
> >>
> >> My #80 (scraper, Jeff) came with a piece of saw blade for the scraper, and I think it is a little
> >> too soft. I recently bought a #12, (a bigger scraper, Jeff) with no blade, so decided to order a
> >> Hock from these folks before the sale ends this month. I've never dealt with them before, so we
> >> will see how it goes.
> >>
> >> http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/html_p/hand_tools.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Roy
> >
> >With the new (old) 80 card scraper and new (old) 82 scraper,
> >I had planned to take my hand card scraper from Rocker ($7.98
> >I think; it's probably 4" by 7") and cut 1/3 of it for the
> >82 and keep the other 2/3 for the 80 card scraper. Maybe I'm
> >too cheap.
> >
>
> Card scraper may not be thick enough for the 82.
>
> scott

Can't hurt to try, I guess. I hadn't planned to have the blade
too far outside the jaws of the 82.

s

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

23/01/2010 6:46 PM

On 1/23/2010 4:41 PM, sam wrote:
> Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
> One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
> One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
> One No. 82 scraper, no blade
> One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>
> All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>
> s

Oh yeah, that was my box! I'm gonna need that back; thanks.

--
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RN

Roy

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

25/01/2010 3:33 PM

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:50 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
>@comcast.net says...
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
>> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
>> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
>> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
>> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>> >
>> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>> >
>> >s
>>
>> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
>> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
>> months ago.
>
>
>I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
>finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
>sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
>a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
>and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.
>
>s

I've got a small Hock that came with a chisel plane kit one of the guys in the hand tool group gave
me. Tiny as it is, it is an impressive piece of steel. I scarey sharpened it to 1500 grit.

A couple guys in our group have noted improvements when switching to Hock blades from the standard
Stanley's. I never thought to ask if they got $30-50 worth of improvement from the upgrade. If it
solved a chatter issue, I'm sure they sure did.

My #80 (scraper, Jeff) came with a piece of saw blade for the scraper, and I think it is a little
too soft. I recently bought a #12, (a bigger scraper, Jeff) with no blade, so decided to order a
Hock from these folks before the sale ends this month. I've never dealt with them before, so we
will see how it goes.

http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/html_p/hand_tools.htm


Regards,
Roy

RN

Roy

in reply to sam on 23/01/2010 4:41 PM

25/01/2010 11:55 PM

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:54:25 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
>@comcast.net says...
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:49:50 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>, NOSPAMrp77469
>> >@comcast.net says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:42 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Two Stanley 151 spokeshaves, one Sweetheart, the other new
>> >> >One No 60 spokeshave, Sweetheart
>> >> >One No. 80 card scraper, no blade, dated 6-2-14
>> >> >One No. 82 scraper, no blade
>> >> >One No 66, Feb 9.86, no blade or fence
>> >> >
>> >> >All for 25 bucks. Someone found a box in his attic.
>> >> >
>> >> >s
>> >>
>> >> Good buy. With all the bucks you saved, you can buy some Hock replacement blades. One of the guys
>> >> in our hand tool group bought a set of new-made cutters for the 66 from either LV or LN a couple
>> >> months ago.
>> >
>> >
>> >I have thought about buying Hock blades, especially for my
>> >finish plane, but I'm also kind of vain about my ability to
>> >sharpen anything with a wet stone and a leather strop with
>> >a little compound. I add a little wax to the sole of my plane
>> >and I'm good to go with the Stanley blades.
>> >
>> >s
>>
>> I've got a small Hock that came with a chisel plane kit one of the guys in the hand tool group gave
>> me. Tiny as it is, it is an impressive piece of steel. I scarey sharpened it to 1500 grit.
>>
>> A couple guys in our group have noted improvements when switching to Hock blades from the standard
>> Stanley's. I never thought to ask if they got $30-50 worth of improvement from the upgrade. If it
>> solved a chatter issue, I'm sure they sure did.
>>
>> My #80 (scraper, Jeff) came with a piece of saw blade for the scraper, and I think it is a little
>> too soft. I recently bought a #12, (a bigger scraper, Jeff) with no blade, so decided to order a
>> Hock from these folks before the sale ends this month. I've never dealt with them before, so we
>> will see how it goes.
>>
>> http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/html_p/hand_tools.htm
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roy
>
>With the new (old) 80 card scraper and new (old) 82 scraper,
>I had planned to take my hand card scraper from Rocker ($7.98
>I think; it's probably 4" by 7") and cut 1/3 of it for the
>82 and keep the other 2/3 for the 80 card scraper. Maybe I'm
>too cheap.
>
>s

My curiosity now being aroused forced me to slip out to the shop and measure some blades. The 80
blade is about 0.055" thick. The blade on the 81 came in at 0.042", which is exactly 1mm. I
checked one of my Disston's and it measured 0.031 or 1/32". Hock blades are listed as 1/16 or
0.062. My LV curved scrapers are 0,021 (0.5mm), and my LV cabinet scraper is 0.031. I have an 82,
but no cutter for it, but guess 0.030 - 0.040 would be right compared to the others.

I checked Leonard Lee's book which said earlier scraper blades (for the 80 and 81) had typical
hardness and thicknesses of saw blades, since they were made from the same stock. These must have
been two man saws to be 0.055" thick. He listed typical hardness as 38-42 Rockwell for the older
blades with newer scrapers being in the 48-52 range.

The only drawback to using thinner stock that comes to mind is perhaps some chatter. Let us know
how your experiment with the thin card scraper comes out. Worst case is that you now have a small
hand scraper for getting into tight corners.

Roy


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