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05/03/2011 10:28 AM

Messy shop

It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.

If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
type
of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
around to get to things.

Any of you planning the same thing?

Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
me want to be in there.

MJ


This topic has 36 replies

Cw

"ChairMan"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 5:49 PM

In news:[email protected],
Matt <[email protected]> spewed forth:
> On 3/6/2011 10:43 AM, RicodJour wrote:
>> On Mar 6, 9:57 am, Matt<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 3/5/2011 10:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>>>
>>>>>> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
>>>> --------------------------------
>>>> "Matt" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. Slowly working on
>>>>> scenery; the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now,
>>>>> and I have monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just
>>>>> last night.
>>>> --------------------------------
>>>> Nice size layout.
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>>>> Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the
>>>>> kitchen at one end, the other end open to the back yard. Outdoor
>>>>> electrical outlet nearby. Keep thinking about some sort of
>>>>> covering for the patio area but haven't built anything yet.
>>>> --------------------
>>>> Some 1" EMT, a silver tarp, and the 1" EMT fittings to form the
>>>> frame to support the tarp and you're in business.
>>>
>>>> Very common around here to provide some shade over bare cement,
>>>> quickly and at low cost..
>>>
>>>> Gotta be somebody locally selling the stuff.
>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! I'd thought about
>>> some sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side
>>> walls, but this could be cheaper and faster.
>>
>> Another alternative is to use a couple of rolling wire shelving
>> units, such as:
>> http://www.amazon.com/TRINITY-6-Tier-Purpose-Chrome-Shelving/dp/B001KYMN1E
>>
>> They're easy to roll around loaded, they provide storage where you
>> need it when you're working outside, and it's easy to rig a tarp
>> cover with some bungee cords and a cross piece or two. If it's
>> something that you'll do frequently, use some stainless screw hooks
>> screwed into the garage door head jamb. If you want to work outside
>> in blowy or rainy weather, add a couple of tarps to the outer sides
>> of the shelving units. Set up becomes a ten minute job and it'll
>> cut way down on the trips back and forth into the garage to get a
>> tool or whatever.
>>
>> R
> One thing I really like about this group is that there's never a
> shortage of interesting - and often creative - ideas - thanks, R!

what else that is nice about the "gorilla" type wire shelving is that zig
zag front of the shelves lend themselves to pegboard hooks and such quite
nicely. Put a large hook to hang an ext cord or anything else you'd like

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 8:04 PM

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:500d4bd5-
[email protected]:

> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
> type
> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
> around to get to things.
>
> Any of you planning the same thing?
>
> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
> me want to be in there.
>
> MJ

I've done it, but am not planning on doing it again. I need to get in
there and clean up the various sawdusty areas and figure out some storage
to keep tools off my bench (when not being used). It is a lot of work,
but it's worth it.

I played with Sketchup for several days figuring out a layout and it's
working quite well.

Puckdropper

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 4:22 PM

Puckdropper wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:500d4bd5-
> [email protected]:
>
>> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>>
>> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>> type
>> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>> around to get to things.
>>
>> Any of you planning the same thing?
>>
>> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>> me want to be in there.
>>
>> MJ
>
> I've done it, but am not planning on doing it again. I need to get in
> there and clean up the various sawdusty areas and figure out some
> storage to keep tools off my bench (when not being used). It is a
> lot of work, but it's worth it.

I'm glad you mentioned sawdust. I generally keep my tools picked up but
rarely clean up saw dust until I finish whatever I am working on, might be
months. Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until the next project
when it starts accumulating again

My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to reach
a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem to increase.
Why? (Note: I have never actually measured it)

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Steve

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 6:36 PM

On 2011-03-05 17:25:48 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> said:

> They say that a watched pot never boils... If you sweep up everyday
> it provides better footing and adds to the feeling of accomplishment!

Leafblower's faster.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 4:46 PM

RE: Subject

Living in a temperate climate offers many advantages.

Put all you mjor power tools on wheels (T/S, Jointer, Planer, Router
Table, etc)

Push tools out on driveway to use.

A push broom, a flat bottom coal shovel and a 30 gal garbage can
serves as the dust collection system.

Return tools at end of day.

Was able to work outside in SoCal except parts of the rainy months of
Dec, Jan Feb.

Would even work back in Ohio if 30F-40F doesn't bother you.

Lew

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 1:40 AM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I'm glad you mentioned sawdust. I generally keep my tools picked up
> but rarely clean up saw dust until I finish whatever I am working on,
> might be months. Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until
> the next project when it starts accumulating again
>
> My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to
> reach a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem
> to increase. Why? (Note: I have never actually measured it)
>

Oh it never stops accumulating... it's just the change isn't noticed as
easily. Sawdust is the same color as sawdust...

Puckdropper

Mm

Matt

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 7:03 PM

On 3/5/2011 5:46 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> RE: Subject
>
> Living in a temperate climate offers many advantages.
>
> Put all you mjor power tools on wheels (T/S, Jointer, Planer, Router
> Table, etc)
>
> Push tools out on driveway to use.
>
> A push broom, a flat bottom coal shovel and a 30 gal garbage can
> serves as the dust collection system.
>
> Return tools at end of day.
>
> Was able to work outside in SoCal except parts of the rainy months of
> Dec, Jan Feb.
>
> Would even work back in Ohio if 30F-40F doesn't bother you.
>
> Lew
>
>
My indoor shop space is quite small, and the main room also houses a
model railroad, which doesn't do well with dust.

I just completed a ramp from the kitchen patio door out to the patio to
be able to do the same thing - and all of my major tools are on wheels
just for that purpose. Since I'm in Phoenix, I won't be able to do a
lot of work during the summer months unless I get up really early, but
at least I'll be able to work more often than I have lately with this
new setup.

Matt

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 8:06 PM

On 03/05/2011 01:25 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>>
>> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>> type
>> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>> around to get to things.
>>
>> Any of you planning the same thing?
>>
>> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>> me want to be in there.
>>
>> MJ
> Just don't let your wife help. Wives have a way of putting things away
> so that some of them never see the light of day again.
>

...and they want you to pitch all those perfectly good scraps that adorn
all the free space (what ever that is).

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 7:45 PM


"Matt" wrote:
>
> My indoor shop space is quite small, and the main room also houses a
> model railroad, which doesn't do well with dust.
>
> I just completed a ramp from the kitchen patio door out to the patio
> to be able to do the same thing - and all of my major tools are on
> wheels just for that purpose. Since I'm in Phoenix, I won't be able
> to do a lot of work during the summer months unless I get up really
> early, but at least I'll be able to work more often than I have
> lately with this new setup.
-----------------------------
Railroad "HO" by chance?

Is the patio covered or bare cement?

Lew

Mm

Matt

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 9:07 PM

On 3/5/2011 8:45 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Matt" wrote:
>>
>> My indoor shop space is quite small, and the main room also houses a
>> model railroad, which doesn't do well with dust.
>>
>> I just completed a ramp from the kitchen patio door out to the patio
>> to be able to do the same thing - and all of my major tools are on
>> wheels just for that purpose. Since I'm in Phoenix, I won't be able
>> to do a lot of work during the summer months unless I get up really
>> early, but at least I'll be able to work more often than I have
>> lately with this new setup.
> -----------------------------
> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>
> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
>
> Lew
>
>
HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. Slowly working on scenery;
the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now, and I have
monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just last night. The
rest of the space is primarily used to store all of my woodworking tools.

Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the kitchen at
one end, the other end open to the back yard. Outdoor electrical outlet
nearby. Keep thinking about some sort of covering for the patio area
but haven't built anything yet.

Matt

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 9:17 PM


>> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>>
>> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
--------------------------------
"Matt" wrote:

> HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. Slowly working on
> scenery; the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now, and
> I have monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just last
> night.
--------------------------------
Nice size layout.
----------------------------------

> Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the
> kitchen at one end, the other end open to the back yard. Outdoor
> electrical outlet nearby. Keep thinking about some sort of covering
> for the patio area but haven't built anything yet.
--------------------
Some 1" EMT, a silver tarp, and the 1" EMT fittings to form the frame
to support the tarp and you're in business.

Very common around here to provide some shade over bare cement,
quickly and at low cost..

Gotta be somebody locally selling the stuff.

Lew


Mm

Matt

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 7:57 AM

On 3/5/2011 10:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>>>
>>> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
> --------------------------------
> "Matt" wrote:
>
>> HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. Slowly working on
>> scenery; the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now, and
>> I have monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just last
>> night.
> --------------------------------
> Nice size layout.
> ----------------------------------
>
>> Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the
>> kitchen at one end, the other end open to the back yard. Outdoor
>> electrical outlet nearby. Keep thinking about some sort of covering
>> for the patio area but haven't built anything yet.
> --------------------
> Some 1" EMT, a silver tarp, and the 1" EMT fittings to form the frame
> to support the tarp and you're in business.
>
> Very common around here to provide some shade over bare cement,
> quickly and at low cost..
>
> Gotta be somebody locally selling the stuff.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! I'd thought about some
sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side walls, but
this could be cheaper and faster.

Matt

Mm

Matt

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 12:05 PM

On 3/6/2011 10:43 AM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Mar 6, 9:57 am, Matt<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/5/2011 10:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>>>> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>>
>>>>> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
>>> --------------------------------
>>> "Matt" wrote:
>>
>>>> HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. Slowly working on
>>>> scenery; the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now, and
>>>> I have monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just last
>>>> night.
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Nice size layout.
>>> ----------------------------------
>>
>>>> Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the
>>>> kitchen at one end, the other end open to the back yard. Outdoor
>>>> electrical outlet nearby. Keep thinking about some sort of covering
>>>> for the patio area but haven't built anything yet.
>>> --------------------
>>> Some 1" EMT, a silver tarp, and the 1" EMT fittings to form the frame
>>> to support the tarp and you're in business.
>>
>>> Very common around here to provide some shade over bare cement,
>>> quickly and at low cost..
>>
>>> Gotta be somebody locally selling the stuff.
>>
>>> Lew
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! I'd thought about some
>> sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side walls, but
>> this could be cheaper and faster.
>
> Another alternative is to use a couple of rolling wire shelving units,
> such as:
> http://www.amazon.com/TRINITY-6-Tier-Purpose-Chrome-Shelving/dp/B001KYMN1E
>
> They're easy to roll around loaded, they provide storage where you
> need it when you're working outside, and it's easy to rig a tarp cover
> with some bungee cords and a cross piece or two. If it's something
> that you'll do frequently, use some stainless screw hooks screwed into
> the garage door head jamb. If you want to work outside in blowy or
> rainy weather, add a couple of tarps to the outer sides of the
> shelving units. Set up becomes a ten minute job and it'll cut way
> down on the trips back and forth into the garage to get a tool or
> whatever.
>
> R
One thing I really like about this group is that there's never a
shortage of interesting - and often creative - ideas - thanks, R!

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 11:12 AM

"Matt" wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! I'd thought about
> some sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side
> walls, but this could be cheaper and faster.
------------------------------------
This is wht I had in mind.

http://www.creativeshelters.com/

Lew



Mm

Matt

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 1:16 PM

On 3/6/2011 12:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Matt" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! I'd thought about
>> some sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side
>> walls, but this could be cheaper and faster.
> ------------------------------------
> This is wht I had in mind.
>
> http://www.creativeshelters.com/
>
> Lew
>
>
>
>
Thanks for the link, Lew - bookmarked for future reference. Might even
be time to get out a tape measure and get some dimensions!

Matt

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 2:20 PM


>> http://www.creativeshelters.com/
-------------------------------------
"Matt" wrote:

> Thanks for the link, Lew - bookmarked for future reference. Might
> even be time to get out a tape measure and get some dimensions!
------------------------------------

Last time I put up a 10' x 10' silver tarp, it was less than $50 for
everything.

Have fun

Lew


Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

10/03/2011 1:49 AM

k-nuttle <[email protected]> wrote in news:il8rcl$h4k$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

> What if it is so cold you can not touch any thing metal?

Most of my tools with metal on them also have non-metallic parts I can use
to hold and handle them. Guess I just gotta leave the clamps out. (They
usually get put back with a reasonable amount of frequency, though, as they
tend to get in the way.)

Puckdropper

SS

Stuart

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 10:02 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
k-nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
> What if it is so cold you can not touch any thing metal?

Put some gloves on?

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

MD

Mac Davis

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 11:09 PM

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:28:49 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I'm lucky enough to have a "year round" shop for the first time..
Well, except for the big tools that are on the carport and don't get
used much in the summer..

I try to pick an area at a time to go through, the lumber rack on a
wall is the current project..
Oh.. and almost time to get the AC serviced..

>It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
>If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>type
>of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>around to get to things.
>
>Any of you planning the same thing?
>
>Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>me want to be in there.
>
>MJ

DD

"DGDevin"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 2:02 PM



"k-nuttle" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> What if it is so cold you can not touch any thing metal?

Veritas Unheated Shop Cleanup Gloves--$49.95 right-handed, $59.95
left-handed.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 9:08 AM

> > Leafblower's faster.
>

Yep, I've done that before. On a good windy day, I've opened front
and back windows and doors and blew the heck out of the place.

Sonny

DD

"DGDevin"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 2:00 PM



wrote in message
news:500d4bd5-deb8-4c92-8651-f0a8663af3b9@o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
> me want to be in there.

I experience the same thing. When the shop is a mess I find it hard to get
motivated to do any work. Now that I've put the bins of Christmas
decorations back in the attic and otherwise straightened up it the bench is
calling to me. Got to get going on those new CD library shelf units, SWMBO
has given the okay to go right to the ceiling with the new ones so we don't
run out of room in no time.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 3:25 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
> type
> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
> around to get to things.
>
> Any of you planning the same thing?
>
> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
> me want to be in there.
>
> MJ
Just don't let your wife help. Wives have a way of putting things
away so that some of them never see the light of day again.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Don't worry about the future, sooner
or later it's the past.




JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 7:38 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 3/9/2011 3:04 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> > I forget who came up with this idea on the wreck, but the
> > guy said "every single time you walk in the shop, put away
> > exactly 3 things before you leave", and in a very short time
> > it's all straight again. I have tried it for a few years now,
> > and it really works....
> >
> > Remember...just 3 things every time.....
> >
> > On 3/5/2011 1:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
> What if it is so cold you can not touch any thing metal?

Gloves?

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 9:01 AM


"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Puckdropper wrote:
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:500d4bd5-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>>>
>>> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>>> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>>> type
>>> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>>> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>>> around to get to things.
>>>
>>> Any of you planning the same thing?
>>>
>>> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>>> me want to be in there.
>>>
>>> MJ
>>
>> I've done it, but am not planning on doing it again. I need to get in
>> there and clean up the various sawdusty areas and figure out some
>> storage to keep tools off my bench (when not being used). It is a
>> lot of work, but it's worth it.
>
> I'm glad you mentioned sawdust. I generally keep my tools picked up but
> rarely clean up saw dust until I finish whatever I am working on, might be
> months. Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until the next
> project when it starts accumulating again
>
> My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to
> reach a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem to
> increase. Why? (Note: I have never actually measured it)

You are tracking the excess inside the house. ;~) I clean up daily now,
only takes about 5 minutes.




Sc

Sonny

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 1:49 PM

> Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until the next project
> when it starts accumulating again

> My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to re=
ach
> a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem to increas=
e.
> Why? =A0(Note: I have never actually measured it)
>

You forgot to sweep off your eyeballs.

With the attached garage (onto the shop) almost completed, I moved my
jointer, a work table and the anvil from the mai area in there. I
assembled my new planer in the gaage area last fall. I don't have all
the electricity run, yet, so the dust collection is not installed. It
gets dusty/dirty in there, fast. I did this moving a month, or so,
ago and the main part of the shop is more clear, now. I cleaned up
when I moved stuff out, but I still have rearranging to do, more
storage space for hand tools and other odds & ends and a major project
to finish. Cleaning, alone, is a significant job, for me. Lately,
I've been alternating between upholstery, woodworking and try to do
some new landscaping. For convenience, lately, some of my landscaping
tools are stored in the shop garage for use the next day. SOmeday,
I'll get it all straightened out.

Sonny

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 12:29 PM

On Mar 5, 1:49=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> And after winning the Festool lottery:http://www.idealtools.com.au/the_id=
eal_tools_festool_workshop
> The last picture in that link is the most important tool. =A0Coffee is
> brain food.
>
Williamstown... what a wonderful place to be. I loved it there... and
what a Millennium party!

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 9:43 AM

On Mar 6, 9:57=A0am, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/5/2011 10:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> >>> Railroad "HO" by chance?
>
> >>> Is the patio covered or bare cement?
> > --------------------------------
> > =A0 "Matt" wrote:
>
> >> HO, yes, about 12 x 18, around the walls. =A0Slowly working on
> >> scenery; the trackwork has been done for a couple of years now, and
> >> I have monthly operating sessions on it - had a good one just last
> >> night.
> > --------------------------------
> > Nice size layout.
> > ----------------------------------
>
> >> Patio is bare cement, walls on two sides, patio door from the
> >> kitchen at one end, the other end open to the back yard. =A0Outdoor
> >> electrical outlet nearby. =A0Keep thinking about some sort of covering
> >> for the patio area but haven't built anything yet.
> > --------------------
> > Some 1" EMT, a silver tarp, and the 1" EMT fittings to form the frame
> > to support the tarp and you're in business.
>
> > Very common around here to provide some shade over bare cement,
> > quickly and at low cost..
>
> > Gotta be somebody locally selling the stuff.
>
> > Lew
>
> Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it! =A0I'd thought about some
> sort of wood framework tied into the roof lines on the side walls, but
> this could be cheaper and faster.

Another alternative is to use a couple of rolling wire shelving units,
such as:
http://www.amazon.com/TRINITY-6-Tier-Purpose-Chrome-Shelving/dp/B001KYMN1E

They're easy to roll around loaded, they provide storage where you
need it when you're working outside, and it's easy to rig a tarp cover
with some bungee cords and a cross piece or two. If it's something
that you'll do frequently, use some stainless screw hooks screwed into
the garage door head jamb. If you want to work outside in blowy or
rainy weather, add a couple of tarps to the outer sides of the
shelving units. Set up becomes a ten minute job and it'll cut way
down on the trips back and forth into the garage to get a tool or
whatever.

R

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 10:49 AM

On Mar 5, 1:28=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
> type
> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
> around to get to things.
>
> Any of you planning the same thing?
>
> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
> me want to be in there.
>
> MJ

How far are you planning to take the cleaning?
Before:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/noel157//Cooker-and-Workshop-004.jpgRcd.jpg

Midpoint
http://www.pruner.biz/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/woodworking-shop.jpg
(Note the only tool that's obviously been used is the broom.)

And after winning the Festool lottery:
http://www.idealtools.com.au/the_ideal_tools_festool_workshop
The last picture in that link is the most important tool. Coffee is
brain food.

R

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 3:20 PM

On Mar 5, 4:22=A0pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Puckdropper wrote:
> > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:500d4bd5-
> > [email protected]:
>
> >> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
> >> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
> >> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
> >> type
> >> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
> >> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
> >> around to get to things.
>
> >> Any of you planning the same thing?
>
> >> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
> >> me want to be in there.
>
> >> MJ
>
> > I've done it, but am not planning on doing it again. =A0I need to get i=
n
> > there and clean up the various sawdusty areas and figure out some
> > storage to keep tools off my bench (when not being used). =A0It is a
> > lot of work, but it's worth it.
>
> I'm glad you mentioned sawdust. =A0I generally keep my tools picked up bu=
t
> rarely clean up saw dust until I finish whatever I am working on, might b=
e
> months. =A0Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until the next pr=
oject
> when it starts accumulating again
>
> My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to re=
ach
> a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem to increas=
e.
> Why? =A0(Note: I have never actually measured it)
>
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MUCH less dust with planes and scrapers. Sure,
you have to sharpen them daily, but it takes less time
to swipe an edge under a buffing wheel than to sweep
an entire 20 x 50 shop. I still sand, but 220 is my
starting grit.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

06/03/2011 9:03 AM


"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2011-03-05 17:25:48 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> said:
>
>> They say that a watched pot never boils... If you sweep up everyday it
>> provides better footing and adds to the feeling of accomplishment!
>
> Leafblower's faster.
>

I actually sweep daily so as to not track inside the house but when the
project is done the leaf blower comes out to get into the areas that the
dust collects.

BB

Bill

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 5:25 PM

dadiOH wrote:
> Puckdropper wrote:
>> "[email protected]"<[email protected]> wrote in news:500d4bd5-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>>>
>>> If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>>> I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>>> type
>>> of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>>> dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>>> around to get to things.
>>>
>>> Any of you planning the same thing?
>>>
>>> Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>>> me want to be in there.
>>>
>>> MJ
>>
>> I've done it, but am not planning on doing it again. I need to get in
>> there and clean up the various sawdusty areas and figure out some
>> storage to keep tools off my bench (when not being used). It is a
>> lot of work, but it's worth it.
>
> I'm glad you mentioned sawdust. I generally keep my tools picked up but
> rarely clean up saw dust until I finish whatever I am working on, might be
> months. Once finished, all the sawdust gets swept up until the next project
> when it starts accumulating again
>
> My question is this: a new project creates new sawdust but it seems to reach
> a status quo; i.e. reaches a certain quantity and doesn't seem to increase.
> Why? (Note: I have never actually measured it)
>

They say that a watched pot never boils... If you sweep up everyday it
provides better footing and adds to the feeling of accomplishment!
; )

Bill

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 2:50 PM

On 3/9/11 2:04 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> I forget who came up with this idea on the wreck, but the
> guy said "every single time you walk in the shop, put away
> exactly 3 things before you leave", and in a very short time
> it's all straight again. I have tried it for a few years now,
> and it really works....
>
> Remember...just 3 things every time.....
>

But what if I take out 4 every time? :-)


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kk

k-nuttle

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 4:27 PM

On 3/9/2011 3:04 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> I forget who came up with this idea on the wreck, but the
> guy said "every single time you walk in the shop, put away
> exactly 3 things before you leave", and in a very short time
> it's all straight again. I have tried it for a few years now,
> and it really works....
>
> Remember...just 3 things every time.....
>
> On 3/5/2011 1:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
What if it is so cold you can not touch any thing metal?

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

05/03/2011 4:32 PM

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:28:49 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.
>
>If I get a couple of days of clear weather (very possible) this week,
>I'm planning to do a top-to-bottom "Augean Stables", "GI cleaning"
>type
>of clean-out of the shop. Over the winter, I just
>dropped stuff where I could and now I have to move it all
>around to get to things.
>
>Any of you planning the same thing?

Ayup. I'm spending more time now moving things out of the way to work
than I am working in there.


>Somehow a more organized and clean shop makes
>me want to be in there.

I'm far too oblivious to clutter for that to affect me. <sigh>

--
Life is full of little surprises.
--Pandora

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/03/2011 10:28 AM

09/03/2011 3:04 PM

I forget who came up with this idea on the wreck, but the
guy said "every single time you walk in the shop, put away
exactly 3 things before you leave", and in a very short time
it's all straight again. I have tried it for a few years now,
and it really works....

Remember...just 3 things every time.....

On 3/5/2011 1:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> It's almost Spring out here in the West Coast.


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