My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
sometimes, gyprock, etc.
Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
weight are.
If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
would be your choice ?
Thanks for helping !
In article <[email protected]>, Upscale
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Can anyone tell that I'm a cynical SOB?
heh. See sig line...
djb
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who
have not got it." -- G.B. Shaw
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
I've used Ryobi, Porter Cable, DeWalt. Bought a Panasonic and I'm very
happy with it. Good balance and weight to power ratio.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Can anyone tell that I'm a cynical SOB?
An admirable quality to have.
"Archangel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I'll have to recheck the literature that came with my cordless combo kit,
> I may have just assumed the batteries were considered one of consumable
> items not covered.
At the very least, figure that the initial cost of the drill includes one or
two occurrences of the replacement or rebuilding cost of batteries that have
died. I'm also sure they figure that newer technology would have taken over
a certain time period after that and the owner will upgrade anyway. Lifetime
warranty often means only while the product is active in the market. I'm
willing to bet this model won't be active fifteen years from now. Hell, it
will probably be considered an antique by then.
Can anyone tell that I'm a cynical SOB?
"C & S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If money is no object, my three choices would be between, the Panasonic
>> (always tends to win best choice awards), the new 28v Milwaukee, or the
>> Rigid (with it's lifetime warranty they are now offering).
>
> I have got to beleive that that warantee does not cover batteries. Until
> the
> battery technology settles down and/or gets a whole lot better, onlt count
> on a cordless drill for a decade (for a good one).
>
> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
>
> STeve
>
Just my two cents. While the Panasonic is an excellent choice, I would not
rule out a Festool (now that they are in the US). Afford one and you will
be finding excuses just to use it. I polish mine from time to time. :)
--
Chris
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a
soldier. If it is in ebonics, thank your Congressman.
"C & S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If money is no object, my three choices would be between, the Panasonic
>> (always tends to win best choice awards), the new 28v Milwaukee, or the
>> Rigid (with it's lifetime warranty they are now offering).
>
> I have got to beleive that that warantee does not cover batteries. Until
> the
> battery technology settles down and/or gets a whole lot better, onlt count
> on a cordless drill for a decade (for a good one).
>
> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
I talked to Ridgid about the batteries and the Lifetime warranty. It truly
does cover EVERYTHING including the batteries.
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "C & S" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
>
>You best BE skeptical. They won't honour some of their life-time
>warranties on their sanders.."because they have been used too much."
Ah, the infamous lifetime of the tool warranty.
Upscale wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>Geez, I was totally unaware that DeWalt make cordless 12 volt drills 17
>>years ago.
>
>
> Well, my Milwaukee 12V cordless was bought almost 13 years ago, so maybe
> he's a little out of line, but not that much.
My Makita 7.2 volt (removable stick battery) 3/8" drill started spitting
out woodchips in early 1989 and I know I wasn't the first kid on the
block to have one.
My wife always says that in a men, the sure thing that will change, is
memory :)
But if I remember well, i did renovation of my 2 duplexes at the beginning
of the 90's with it.
It has served me well over the years but lost the second speed range quite
soon and the hammer soon after. So, DeWalt has been good but not the best
"Upscale" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Geez, I was totally unaware that DeWalt make cordless 12 volt drills 17
>> years ago.
>
> Well, my Milwaukee 12V cordless was bought almost 13 years ago, so maybe
> he's a little out of line, but not that much.
>
>
I didn't knew about Festool, seems quite a machine to me !
"Theo Veenstra" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected]...
> Festool: I just went for this one.
> http://www.festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=2&prodid=PCDD12S
> Originally thought the excenter and right-angle chuck might come in handy
> once a year or so. But it turns out I'm using these two quite a lot..
>
> Theo
>
>
> "Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>>
>> The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
>> sometimes, gyprock, etc.
>>
>> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque,
>> guarantee, weight are.
>>
>> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself,
>> what would be your choice ?
>>
>> Thanks for helping !
>>
>
>
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>
> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
> weight are.
Although battery technology has improved over the years, I believe you'll
still find that battery life and power still come with increased weight and
size of the battery. I don't believe you're going to be able to easily
reconcile the two. Have you considered having the batteries on your 12V
Dewalt rebuilt?
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
I like the yellow color. Dewalt DW987KA
Bob
Junkyard Engineer wrote:
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>
> The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
> sometimes, gyprock, etc.
>
> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
> weight are.
>
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
>
> Thanks for helping !
>
>
Panasonic.
Years ago I purchased a 9.6v Panasonic on the recommendation of a cabinet
shop that had five different makes of cordless drills. Loved it, but when
the batteries died after about 10 to 12 years it was replaced by a 12v
DeWalt, which I still have. Never have liked the DeWalt so purchased a
Panasonic 12v a couple of years ago and love it. Pick one up and feel the
balance compared to the other makes. I think the batteries are superior to
other makes also.
Just my two cents.
Ted
C & S wrote:
<snip>
>
> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
>
> STeve
>
>
Here's a section of Ridgid's Lifetime Service Agreement:
"To obtain service for this RIDGID® tool under the Lifetime Service
Agreement, you must return it to One World Technologies, Inc., attn:
RIDGID® Hand Held and Stationary Power Tool Technical Service, 1428
Pearman Dairy Rd, Anderson, SC 29625, freight prepaid, or take it to a
designated service center. You may obtain the location of the designated
service center nearest you by calling (toll free) 1-866-539-1710 or by
logging on to www.ridgid.com. Not all authorized RIDGID® Brand service
centers have been approved to provide service under the Lifetime Service
Agreement. When requesting service under the Lifetime Service Agreement,
you must present your Lifetime Service Agreement Identification Number
and proper personal identification (a valid driver's license, passport,
or military I.D. or a valid Social Security card with photo ID). The
designated service center will repair or replace any part covered under
the Lifetime Service Agreement, at our option, at no charge to you."
See:
http://www.ridgid.com/Manuals/RidgidLSA.pdf
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
Geez, I was totally unaware that DeWalt make cordless 12 volt drills 17
years ago.
Well I went ahead and bought the Panasonic. I just wanted the 12 volt
but they didn't have the one with metal-hydride [sp?] batteries in stock
and the 15.6 was only $10 more so being the typical pick-up truck
driving American I am I thought "if it's only $10 more and it's heavier
and more powerful why not?"
Now I'll be able to strip out every screw in a drawer glide in moments.
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> changed the batteries once, lost the second range of speed years ago and
the
> hammer do not work anymore...
And as a final consideration, I guess there's that "new toy" feeling we all
like to get when upgrading something. :)
In article <[email protected]>,
"C & S" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
You best BE skeptical. They won't honour some of their life-time
warranties on their sanders.."because they have been used too much."
In article <[email protected]>,
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote:
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>
> The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
> sometimes, gyprock, etc.
>
> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
> weight are.
>
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
>
> Thanks for helping !
Simple. Festool, Fein, Panasonic, Milwaukee.. in that order.
I'm due for a new impact driver soon....
*shrugs* Dunno, dude...
If money is no object, my three choices would be between, the Panasonic
> (always tends to win best choice awards), the new 28v Milwaukee, or the
> Rigid (with it's lifetime warranty they are now offering).
I have got to beleive that that warantee does not cover batteries. Until the
battery technology settles down and/or gets a whole lot better, onlt count
on a cordless drill for a decade (for a good one).
I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
STeve
Festool: I just went for this one.
http://www.festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=2&prodid=PCDD12S
Originally thought the excenter and right-angle chuck might come in handy
once a year or so. But it turns out I'm using these two quite a lot..
Theo
"Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>
> The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
> sometimes, gyprock, etc.
>
> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
> weight are.
>
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
>
> Thanks for helping !
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
81%[email protected]...
>
> "C & S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If money is no object, my three choices would be between, the Panasonic
>>> (always tends to win best choice awards), the new 28v Milwaukee, or the
>>> Rigid (with it's lifetime warranty they are now offering).
>>
>> I have got to beleive that that warantee does not cover batteries. Until
>> the
>> battery technology settles down and/or gets a whole lot better, onlt
>> count
>> on a cordless drill for a decade (for a good one).
>>
>> I would be skeptical of a lifetime warantee from Rigid.
>
>
> I talked to Ridgid about the batteries and the Lifetime warranty. It
> truly does cover EVERYTHING including the batteries.
>
Batterie included ! Hummm... I have to check that one out :)
changed the batteries once, lost the second range of speed years ago and the
hammer do not work anymore...
"Upscale" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> "Junkyard Engineer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>>
>> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque,
>> guarantee,
>> weight are.
>
> Although battery technology has improved over the years, I believe you'll
> still find that battery life and power still come with increased weight
> and
> size of the battery. I don't believe you're going to be able to easily
> reconcile the two. Have you considered having the batteries on your 12V
> Dewalt rebuilt?
>
>
Junkyard Engineer wrote:
> My old 12V Dewalt is near the end after 17 years.
>
> The work is woodworking, metal working sometimes, concrete drilling
> sometimes, gyprock, etc.
>
> Money is not my first choice parameter. Battery length, torque, guarantee,
> weight are.
>
> If you had the choice to choose the best cordless drill for yourself, what
> would be your choice ?
>
> Thanks for helping !
If money is no object, my three choices would be between, the Panasonic
(always tends to win best choice awards), the new 28v Milwaukee, or the
Rigid (with it's lifetime warranty they are now offering).
thanks for the hint !
<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> I've always liked Makita. Even though you said money isn't the top
> priority, they have $50 rebates going right now that make some great
> delas (18V kit, $140 on Amazon).
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
<snip>
>
>I talked to Ridgid about the batteries and the Lifetime warranty. It truly
>does cover EVERYTHING including the batteries.
When did this lifetime warranty come into effect?
I'll have to recheck the literature that came with my cordless combo kit,
I may have just assumed the batteries were considered one of consumable
items not covered.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Geez, I was totally unaware that DeWalt make cordless 12 volt drills 17
> years ago.
Well, my Milwaukee 12V cordless was bought almost 13 years ago, so maybe
he's a little out of line, but not that much.
"Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My Makita 7.2 volt (removable stick battery) 3/8" drill started spitting
> out woodchips in early 1989 and I know I wasn't the first kid on the block
> to have one.
I recall Makita 7.2 volt drills being sold by the SnapOn man at the car
dealer ship I worked at in the late 70's and 80's but it was not until IIRC
the early 90's that I recall seeing any 12 models of anything being offered.