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D K Woods

12/07/2003 3:47 PM

keeping purpleheart purple

I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is this
true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from happening?

Any other tricks to using purpleheart?

thanks
david
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I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.
-- Thomas Jefferson


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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

13/07/2003 2:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>, McQualude <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Is it UV or oxygen that turns purpleheart brown?

IME, it's UV that makes it *purple* -- brown when first cut, purple on
exposure to sunlight.

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charlieb

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

12/07/2003 3:24 PM

Ernie Jurick wrote:
>
> "D K Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is this
> > true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from happening?
> >
> > Any other tricks to using purpleheart?
>
> Believe it or not, Armorall, the car stuff is recommended under the finish
> coats. And the finish should be UV-blocking. Wish I could supply a source,
> but it's just something afloat in my memory banks. Wait for confirmation.
> :-)
> -- Ernie

Ernie:

The source is probably Micahel Fortune, a prominent Canadian furniture
maker. In one of his demos or classes at a woodworking show he was
showing slides of his work. There were several slides of a piece with
a lot of purple heart. Someone noted that it browns out with exposure
to sunlight and asked how he planned on prventing that from happening.
"Armoral." Seems even a thin layer provides a great deal of UV
blocking - works on vinyl dashboards and they get a lot of exposure
to UV.

Does that ring any bells.

charlie b

EJ

"Ernie Jurick"

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

12/07/2003 9:36 PM


"D K Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is this
> true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from happening?
>
> Any other tricks to using purpleheart?

Believe it or not, Armorall, the car stuff is recommended under the finish
coats. And the finish should be UV-blocking. Wish I could supply a source,
but it's just something afloat in my memory banks. Wait for confirmation.
:-)
-- Ernie

EJ

"Ernie Jurick"

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

13/07/2003 3:02 PM


"McQualude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ernie Jurick spaketh...
>
> > "D K Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is
> >> this true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from
> >> happening?
>
> > Believe it or not, Armorall, the car stuff is recommended under the
> > finish coats. And the finish should be UV-blocking. Wish I could
> > supply a source, but it's just something afloat in my memory banks.
> > Wait for confirmation.
> > -- Ernie
>
> Is it UV or oxygen that turns purpleheart brown?

No idea. I'm relying on memory here, which is increasingly unreliable beyond
the age of 60. That's why I added the caveat.
-- Ernie

Hh

"HarryM"

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

12/07/2003 6:58 PM

I use a product called Fabulon Pryme to block UV darkening, but I haven't
had trouble with purpleheart turning brown like I have with osage orange or
padauk. Pryme won't prevent darkening -- it just delays it. harrym

"D K Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is this
> true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from happening?
>
> Any other tricks to using purpleheart?
>
> thanks
> david
> --
> I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.
> -- Thomas Jefferson

Mm

McQualude

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

12/07/2003 11:41 PM

Ernie Jurick spaketh...

> "D K Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is
>> this true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from
>> happening?

> Believe it or not, Armorall, the car stuff is recommended under the
> finish coats. And the finish should be UV-blocking. Wish I could
> supply a source, but it's just something afloat in my memory banks.
> Wait for confirmation.
> -- Ernie

Is it UV or oxygen that turns purpleheart brown?
--
McQualude

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

12/07/2003 8:46 PM

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:47:18 -0500, D K Woods
<[email protected]> scribbled

>I think I've read somewhere that purpleheart will brown with age. Is this
>true, and is there anything I can do to prevent it from happening?
>
>Any other tricks to using purpleheart?

I thought Jeff Gorman's site had a discussion on the effect of sun on
different woods, but I can't seem to find it.
http://www.amgron.clara.net/

FWIW, here is my recent experience. I built a bookcase for the LOML's
office this winter out of purpleheart & poplar. After doing some
research, I finished it with exterior Varathane water based
UV-protected poly. (Sorry Larry) The bookcase is still purple, with no
discernible browning. It is not subjected to much light.

Some scraps ended up in my solarium. The top parts of the scrap
pieces, which were exposed to light, have turned brown, while the
bottom is still purple, although not as bright as the bookcase in the
basement.

After planing, cutting and sanding it, the purpleheart was brownish,
but it turned purple in a few days.

Luigi
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SK

Steve Knight

in reply to D K Woods on 12/07/2003 3:47 PM

13/07/2003 5:21 PM



>IME, it's UV that makes it *purple* -- brown when first cut, purple on
>exposure to sunlight.

now not all purpleheart turns brown when you cut it. the wood I get just turns a
lighter purple. I notice the wood that turns brown is a more open pored wood and
not as dense. So far I have not found any of my purpleheart brown. but that
could mean it has not sat around long enough. I will test it.

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