I've been using the 8" Avenger stacked set from Woodcraft. No problems yet.
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>
>
SawEyes wrote:
>
> If budget is limited, I'd take a look at the Freud SD208 8" Stacked Set.
> Its going for $69.99 at Amazon at present. A good deal.
That's the price I paid at Cleveland Cutter. I've seen the same set go
for $92 to $99 at the borg.
Wife was all for it since it came from Italy.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:21:09 +0000, Dan wrote:
> On Mon 29 Dec 2003 06:29:54p, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> 4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
>> that gets close.
>
> Really? My Grizz 1022 is 4700.
Then stay far, far away. Still works for me (no flying carbide sharpnel
tips). I run the Griz 2" dia shaper cutters on my RAS at 20,000 (or less
with a router speed control) RPM and don't wring my hands.
-Doug
Keith Boeheim said:
>Thanks for all the advice. I just went on line with Amazon and purchased a
>Freud SD208 8" for $83.00 no tax and free shipping.
I've used one for two years, and have cut a LOT of dados in wood,
plywood, and MDF. Still works fine. Not as clean a cut as the better
models, but perfectly adequate. How many people look at the bottom of
a dado, anyway. <g>
Greg G.
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
If budget is limited, I'd take a look at the Freud SD208 8" Stacked Set.
Its going for $69.99 at Amazon at present. A good deal.
http://tinyurl.com/3a766
I picked one up a month ago and its working a treat so far.
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"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it. I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
I use a Jet contractor's saw with an 8" Signature dado set that I got
from Lowe's. It does a pretty good job, but I would buy the Freud set
from Amazon if I were going to buy it today. The saw seems to handle
the 8" set with no problems.
Dick Durbin
groovy in Tallahassee
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:50:19 +1000, SawEyes wrote:
> If budget is limited, I'd take a look at the Freud SD208 8" Stacked Set.
> Its going for $69.99 at Amazon at present. A good deal.
> http://tinyurl.com/3a766
> I picked one up a month ago and its working a treat so far.
Or more frugal yet, the Harbor Freight 8" stacked set for $20. Bought it
a year or two ago and it works for me.
-Doug
Doug Winterburn said:
>The TS-300 is a direct drive Chiwanese and the 36-600 is an "internal
>belt" drive. Both are the non-Viagraized stubby arbor types that can't
>take a stacked dado anyway. Real saws with the looooong arbors and normal
>belt drive run at less than 4500 RPM.
Not at all true. I have motor from a TS-300 and a 36-600 saw in my
garage. Both types will take a full 13/16 stacked dado head cutter -
as per Delta's specs. I never would have bought the 36-600 oh so many
years ago if it had not accepted a normal dado. I used a Freud SD208.
<g>
Greg G.
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:13:02 -0500, wrote:
> Doug Winterburn said:
>
>>4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
>>that gets close.
>
> Actually, some of Delta's saws, notably the TS-300 and 36-600 run at
> 5400 RPM. There may be others. Check carefully before exceeding the
> recommended operating speed of any sharp, quickly rotating parts. ;-)
The TS-300 is a direct drive Chiwanese and the 36-600 is an "internal
belt" drive. Both are the non-Viagraized stubby arbor types that can't
take a stacked dado anyway. Real saws with the looooong arbors and normal
belt drive run at less than 4500 RPM.
I use the stacked dado on my old RAS (3450 RPM) as my tabletop TS has a
stubby arbor :-(
-Doug
I'm saving up for the new Freud dado blade--it's dial-adjustable in
.004" increments. $270.00 is kinda steep but it sounds like a
winner--no splintering, flat bottom cuts in all materials. I'm sold on
(most) Freud blades after using their Glue Line rip blade--resawed
some 3" walnut gunstocks with it, unbelievable!
Roger
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> >Thanks for all the advice. I just went on line with Amazon and purchased a
> >Freud SD208 8" for $83.00 no tax and free shipping.
>
> I've used one for two years, and have cut a LOT of dados in wood,
> plywood, and MDF. Still works fine. Not as clean a cut as the better
> models, but perfectly adequate. How many people look at the bottom of
> a dado, anyway. <g>
>
>
> Greg G.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:28:16 +0000, Dan wrote:
>> Or more frugal yet, the Harbor Freight 8" stacked set for $20. Bought it
>> a year or two ago and it works for me.
>>
>
> What's the max rpm rating of that HF set? I'm guessing it's a lot less than
> the Freud.
4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
that gets close.
-Doug
Doug Winterburn said:
>4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
>that gets close.
Actually, some of Delta's saws, notably the TS-300 and 36-600 run at
5400 RPM. There may be others. Check carefully before exceeding the
recommended operating speed of any sharp, quickly rotating parts. ;-)
FWIW,
Greg G.
It may have its uses, but, IMO, you can safely stay away from the wobble
variety for most of your woodworking tasks.
Freud, Forrest and Amana make some of the best stacked dado sets, which
consist of two outside blades of even thickness, and varying thickness
'cutters' and 'spacer's, sandwiched in between preciseness in setting the
width of the dado.
You can buy cheaper brands, and they will work fine, but you generally get
what you pay for in quality and long lasting sharpness.
An 8" stacked set is desirable for an increased depth of cut, depending upon
your table saw, but for most dadoes a 6" will also work, and may generally
be a bit cheaper ... again, your saw may have something to say about this.
Basically, if you are a serious woodworker, get a carbide tipped, 8" set of
the highest quality you can afford and you won't go wrong.
One thing to consider in a stacked dado set is whether it will give you a
flat bottomed dado ... many give a flat bottomed dado, but with "bat ears"
in the bottom corners. These can be unattractive on a visible, through dado
and bug some folks, so ask around.
I use an 8" Amana set I've had for a few years and it has cut a lot of
dadoes, and hasn't needed sharpening yet ... it does exhibit slight "bat
ears", but has never posed a problem for my way of working. What I don't
like about it in particular are the plastic shims that come with it, but
they can be replaced with other types quite easily.
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"Keith Boeheim" wrote in message
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>
>
Thanks for all the advice. I just went on line with Amazon and purchased a
Freud SD208 8" for $83.00 no tax and free shipping.
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Winterburn said:
>
>>4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
>>that gets close.
>
>Actually, some of Delta's saws, notably the TS-300 and 36-600 run at
>5400 RPM. There may be others. Check carefully before exceeding the
>recommended operating speed of any sharp, quickly rotating parts. ;-)
>
>FWIW,
>
>Greg G.
Those saws have universal motors and turn that fast only with no load.
As soon as you start cutting something the RPM drops off. At any rate,
you'd probably want nothing larger than a 6" dado on either of them
anyway.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
I had always heard that wobble dados were junk, but when I saw a Delta for
$20 I couldn't resist. It really isn't that bad. I expect it doesn't
compare to even a cheap stacked set, but for the amount I expect to use it,
it is fine. You must bear in mind that the Forrest set everyone is
recommending is $250.
Actually I prefer to use a router. It is slow, but the results are perfect.
I haven't tried it, but I wonder if it would make any sense to remove most
of the material with a wobble dado, and then make the final cut with a
router. Anyone tried it that way?
Generally you don't make dado's very deep, 1/4" - 1/2" so a 6" one covers
the bases nicely.
I use both a wobble and a stackable. If appearance isn't a requirement I'll
use the wobble because it is easier to set up, when I need a clean looking
bottom is required then I use the stackable.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>
>
On Mon 29 Dec 2003 06:08:13p, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:50:19 +1000, SawEyes wrote:
>
>> If budget is limited, I'd take a look at the Freud SD208 8" Stacked Set.
>> Its going for $69.99 at Amazon at present. A good deal.
>> http://tinyurl.com/3a766
>> I picked one up a month ago and its working a treat so far.
>
> Or more frugal yet, the Harbor Freight 8" stacked set for $20. Bought it
> a year or two ago and it works for me.
>
What's the max rpm rating of that HF set? I'm guessing it's a lot less than
the Freud.
Dan
On Mon 29 Dec 2003 06:29:54p, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:
> 4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or RAS
> that gets close.
Really? My Grizz 1022 is 4700.
Dan
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:48:38 GMT, "Keith Boeheim"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it. I
>see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
>advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
>Thanks
>
>Keith
Get a _stack_ dado.
Freud makes several good to excellent sets at varying price points,
and Forrest makes the "king".
Barry
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:01:00 -0500, "Mike G"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Generally you don't make dado's very deep, 1/4" - 1/2" so a 6" one covers
>the bases nicely.
>
I've always wondered about using a 6" dado set on a 10" saw.... seems
like the tip speeds would be a bit slow. of course torque would be
better, which is probably a good thing where the saw is removing so
much material.
do you have to feed slowly with the 6" set?
Bridger
A tough question to answer I'm afraid Bridger.
I feed at a speed that feels comfortable. A speed where I can feel the
resistance of the wood and blade contact but not where it feels like the
board is being forced into the blades or it wants to chatter.
With a 3 horse motor torque isn't really and issue. I doubt I could feed the
stock fast enough to stall the blade no matter what I did.
--
Mike G.
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Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:01:00 -0500, "Mike G"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Generally you don't make dado's very deep, 1/4" - 1/2" so a 6" one covers
> >the bases nicely.
> >
>
> I've always wondered about using a 6" dado set on a 10" saw.... seems
> like the tip speeds would be a bit slow. of course torque would be
> better, which is probably a good thing where the saw is removing so
> much material.
> do you have to feed slowly with the 6" set?
> Bridger
Its on eBay for $69 +$10 shipping too (Tax only if you are in FL).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2585058126&category=11810
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Thanks for all the advice. I just went on line with Amazon and purchased a
> Freud SD208 8" for $83.00 no tax and free shipping.
>
> "Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it.
> I
> > see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> > advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
In article <[email protected]>,
"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just bought a Jet table saw and I would like to buy a dado blade for it. I
> see there are "sets", a wobble type and 6" and 8". I would appreciate some
> advice and maybe a recommendation of a manufacturer.
>
> Thanks
>
> Keith
>
>
The wobble ones are junk, stay away from them.
Top of the line (and price tag) is Forrest, for both regular blades and
dado sets. Freud makes very good stuff too, as does CMT.
I've got a 6-inch set from Lee Valley (url below). It's a decent
quality set, but now I need larger capacity. My old saw wouldn't take
an 8-inch dado blade. I just got a new saw and am upgrading to an
8-inch set. If you're interested, make me a reasonable offer on the old
one (it's gotten very little use and is in near-new condition). My new
set is a Freud model 508.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30061&category=1,41080,41165,
41173&abspage=1&ccurrency=3&SID=
I have been using this HF blade on a G1022 with no problems. I think the 4500
RPM limit is conservative. This blade used to be rated at 7000 RPM a few years
ago. If you look at the HF website, the photo of the blade shows 7000 RPM.
The blade does work very well for the money.
Neal
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Doug Winterburn wrote:
>
> > 4500. I wouldn't put it on a router, but I don't know of any TS or
> > RAS that gets close.
>
> My Grizzly G1022 contractor saw spins at 4700 RPM. I passed on the HF set.
> I thought about putting a smaller pulley on the motor... <g>
>
> -- Mark
>
>