I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct. He
tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her side.
It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
tube out, about six weeks from now.
She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
completely,
and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital, depending
on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the aftereffects
of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I were
a
betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
looks
terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
Something
just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
air,
a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took the
news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was going
to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
malpractice.
Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt as
it feels like from the mood in the room.
I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
the
professionals do their job.
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Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
>I've been using "Automatic Regular." It's supposed to have some
>kind of fuzzy logic CPU to figure out when the clothes are dry and save you
>energy by stopping early, but I have to dry everything 47 times before it
>gets dry, and I don't think that automatic dooflatchie has ever stopped a
>cycle short either. (Actually three times for towels and stuff, twice for
>most other things, once for 1/4 load of socks. It never has dried worth a
>damn, and no, there's nothing wrong with the ducts and stuff.)
A lot of stuff doesn't have to go in the dryer anyway-- just hang
it up someplace where the air can circulate and it's dry in a
couple of hours. The exception is cotton (typically towels,
socks, underwear, and the occasional cotton shirt, and denim
jeans if you wear those). Skip the automatic setting (which
probably doesn't work anyway) and put it in a nice long cycle on
medium heat.
Even the cotton stuff would probably air-dry overnight. You can
still buy collapsible drying racks for something like $20.
Operating cost is $0.
Washing machines are actually easier at the laundromat-- they
have either a knob or a row of buttons with labels like "whites",
"colors", "permanent press", and "delicate", which gives you a
clue about what to put in each load (maybe they know a lot of
their customers are single guys :-). No other settings.
Everything I own is either "whites" or "colors".
I'm off to the laundromat right now...
Things don't always go as planned no matter how great the surgeon.
But you can bet that they will be watching her closer now that they've
had a mishap.
Hang in there and think positive. I'm a firm believer than even
unconscious folks perceive the vibes of those around them.
Godspeed to your entire family.
RonT
Silvan wrote:
> optimistic. However, if I were a
> betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She
> really looks
> terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not
> making funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost
> lost her.
My wife looked like hell after a nasty near-emergency c-section. (Fetal
heartrate kept going down. The baby was being dangerously stressed. Not to
mention the father watching the display. I did an oscar-level performance
of a worried, near-panic husband/parent, got the attention of the overworked
staff, and they whisked her off straight away.) Despite how my wife looked
initially after surgery she was out of the hospital in the expected time.
Now my daughter is 17 & all is still well. Hopefully your story will have
the same kind of happy ending.
You and your family are in my thoughts & prayers.
-- Mark
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:17:05 -0800, Tim Douglass
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:30:58 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>They dryer I have figured out. Put everything in. Turn the knob. Push the
>>button. When it beeps, push the button again. Repeat four times, then
>>pull the clothes out and put them back in the hamper and dump them in a
>>pile on the bed.
>>
>>Then sleep in the floor. Those dog beds are kinda cozy.
>>
>>Can anybody tell me how to fold clothes? :)
>
>Clean clothes get piled on the dining room table. You eat standing up
>in the kitchen. I don't fold clothes, if it has to be on a hanger I
>will occasionally get them there, everything else sort of gets the
>dump and cram approach to filling the dresser.
>
>I'll wash and dry them (even did it when "laundry" consisted of 47
>loads of diapers and one load of "people clothes"), sometimes I'll
>hang some things up, but the whole folding and putting away thing is
>just too much work for me. I do dishes the same way, I'll load the
>dishwasher and wash the pots and pans by hand, but someone else is
>going to put them away.
>
>Tim Douglass
>
>http://www.DouglassClan.com
I look forward to doing laundry, Tim..
it's how I heat my shop, with an indoor dryer vent...
the wife cracked up when she walked into the garage... i mean shop...
one night and I'd run out and hangers and was using rare earth magnets
on the water pipe..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Silvan writes:
>This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
>been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
>OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
>bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
>isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
>There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
>the
>professionals do their job.
Go with the final thought there. Being worried doesn't do any good, so take
care the kids, smile like a crazy ape when you see your wife, keep your fingers
crossed (like any good pagan) and pray like any good religionist.
You're both in my thoughts, which probably doesn't help much, but might.
Charlie Self
"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder
respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." George Orwell
In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
> so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
Hang in there. That's always been hard for me too, but I've gotten good
at it (wish I hadn't had the opportunity).
Once you know she's fine, *then* you can collapse with the shakes for a
few hours.
I'll echo what Patriarch sez. Go sit with her.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> She really looks
> terrible
So did I after all my surgeries. Got the pictures to prove it.
> just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
> tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
> air,
> a, well, foreboding.
Hell - that's hospitals, to me anyway.
Will say a prayer for her on this end.
Dunno' what kind'a standing I'm in with Him these days but it can't hurt to
ask.
They kick everyone out at 9:00 now. I don't have anyone to overnight the
kids with that many days in a row anyway, and they need their father.
Fortunately, the hospital is just about two minutes from here. (The
hospital where I was born, actually. Oh, I'm a travelin' man.)
I made lots of trips. She was groggy. Much worse than a couple weeks ago
when whe was in for pancreatitis. She slept a lot, ate a little. I
noticed the gigantic syringe of some morphine looking stuff they had ready
to hook into her IV was still dangling on the floor, so I guess she isn't
in agony pain wise.
It's sad, really. The flowers I got her from the first hospital stay aren't
even dead yet.
It's not as bad as it could be, though, and we'll get through it.
Pragmatism notwithstanding, I can't exactly force myself to put a happy
face on. It could be worse, but it's still pretty damn bad. I'm really
glad she's alive. That haunted look on the surgeon's face scares me, but
she's off the BP monitor now, and she managed to eat a little dinner. I
think the last of the vultures have been shot in the head, and it's just a
waiting game now.
I hope.
Thanks for all the kind wishes and prayers, and my condolences to those of
you who have had it so much worse than this that this series of posts
sounds like whining.
So much worse than this that this... Now there's an awkward sentence for
you.
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firstjois wrote:
> You have the right to a copy of the record the surgeon dictates at the end
> I don't know anything about law suits - that is not my concern, but I do
> know that they give each different type of surgery a different fancy name
> and eventually you and your wife will be asked what the surgery was and
That's an interesting spin on it. Something to pull out for the grandkids
some day too. Yeah, back at the end of aught four your grandmomma has a
bidisfrecto plifozoidinal otomaopoesfrufuluar dishevinification of the
ultoid spaltafacular blizfra. Back then medical care was so cheap you
could stay in a room in a hospital for a paltry $600 a night.
(Let's see, used to be $60 30 years ago, so 30 years from now it will be
$6,000 a night, right?)
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Silvan notes:
>That's an interesting spin on it. Something to pull out for the grandkids
>some day too. Yeah, back at the end of aught four your grandmomma has a
>bidisfrecto plifozoidinal otomaopoesfrufuluar dishevinification of the
>ultoid spaltafacular blizfra. Back then medical care was so cheap you
>could stay in a room in a hospital for a paltry $600 a night.
>
>(Let's see, used to be $60 30 years ago, so 30 years from now it will be
>$6,000 a night, right?)
Probably not. More likely $60,000 at the current annual rate of increase.
Charlie Self
"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder
respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." George Orwell
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
.
>
> If Shrub has his way, there won't BE any hospitals in our future.
> That wastes money which could go for more wars over oil-rich lands.
> "Sick people will die? So what?" he might say.
I'm sure you have some facts to support your allegations.
On 28 Dec 2004 08:39:51 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>Silvan notes:
>
>>That's an interesting spin on it. Something to pull out for the grandkids
>>some day too. Yeah, back at the end of aught four your grandmomma has a
>>bidisfrecto plifozoidinal otomaopoesfrufuluar dishevinification of the
>>ultoid spaltafacular blizfra. Back then medical care was so cheap you
>>could stay in a room in a hospital for a paltry $600 a night.
>>
>>(Let's see, used to be $60 30 years ago, so 30 years from now it will be
>>$6,000 a night, right?)
>
>Probably not. More likely $60,000 at the current annual rate of increase.
If Shrub has his way, there won't BE any hospitals in our future.
That wastes money which could go for more wars over oil-rich lands.
"Sick people will die? So what?" he might say.
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Don't worry about unloading here. We may not be family, but we're as
> near as dammit.
:)
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jo4hn wrote:
> Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
hanging with geeks like me. :)
> I and a
> whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
OK, let me back up. I can do laundry. Mom can do laundry. Mom has even
volunteered to come up and do the laundry. But Mom taught me how to do
laundry, and my wife absolutely HATES the way I do laundry. So I need to
ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
whatnots.
I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start. :)
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Paul in MN wrote:
> basically brushed it off as post surgery whining. If I ever see that
> woman on the street it will take great internal fortitude not to plow her
> down
I feel sort of the same about the oral surgeon who made an incision, then
closed it without extracting the wisdom tooth. Not plow him down, but
maybe punch him in the head one good time at least.
I'm not really that upset with this surgeon. At least he realized what he
had done before this developed into anything catastrophic. Of course, my
wife probably has a different opinion. :)
> this is little comfort at this time as there is no rationalizing while you
> are in the middle of this. Just remember to lean on friends. That is
> what they are there for.
No, it's some comfort. I realize that as bad as this seems in the middle of
it, it's really nothing compared to stuff others have been through. There
was some real potential for horror there, but the ultimate result isn't
that much different from the way these operations were done for years. It
just would have been better overall if they had realized up front this was
going to be one of those 20% cases that couldn't be handled the newfangled
minimally invasive way. The way they made this discovery leaves a lot to
be desired. It's probably worth getting that transcript, as someone else
suggested, just to see if the guy said "Oh shit!"
I appreciate all the kind words. I've printed up this entire thread and am
taking it to her tomorrow. Quite the get well card!
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> As a confirmed bachelor of 51 years, I can do that.
:)
>>ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
>>Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
>>whatnots.
> OK, separate the pure whites from the rest. Separate the lacy
> ladies (and crossdresser's) undergarments from the colored load.
Do racing stripes count as colors? :)
> That gives you 3 separate loads unless she has a frail garmet bag
> to load the lacy stuff in.
If she does, I don't know what it looks like.
> Start the washer, put the correct amount
> of detergent-with-color-safe-bleach in (up to the inner line on the
> cap for liquid laundry detergent/whatever portion of a cupful for
> powdered), then add the white clothes. Hmm, wifey might use a softener
> at some time during the load, too. RTFM for the washer and see where
> and when to put that in. Some allow preloading, others beep at you
> to put it in.
Beep? Washers BEEP now? I musta bought a crappy one. It's a Fridga
Tagmore or something. It has a ball for this purpose. I cleaned it out
while she was in the hospital last time, so I know all about that. It was
blocked with a little hunk of wood. Wonder how that got in there?
> Once they're done, put them in the dryer. Cleand the
> lint trap first, add an anti-static sheet, and dry on the Wash'n'Wear
> setting. Whatever you do, don't use the Satanic Heat setting. It will
> make everything turn Japanese-size, as in "Honey, I shrunk the
> laundry.", something no housewife ever wants to hear again.
"Wash'n'Wear" huh? I don't have a setting by that name. No Satanic Heat
either. I've been using "Automatic Regular." It's supposed to have some
kind of fuzzy logic CPU to figure out when the clothes are dry and save you
energy by stopping early, but I have to dry everything 47 times before it
gets dry, and I don't think that automatic dooflatchie has ever stopped a
cycle short either. (Actually three times for towels and stuff, twice for
most other things, once for 1/4 load of socks. It never has dried worth a
damn, and no, there's nothing wrong with the ducts and stuff.)
> On second thought, let Mom do it and let HER take the heat when wifey
> gets home and sees the mess.
Better plan.
> Right. I keep a pair of pink, blue, and white undies (one pair,
> tie-dye look) in my underwear drawer to remind me that I shouldn't
> mix loads any more.
:) I washed a red shirt with the socks and underwear in our first weeks of
marriage. That's why I'm forbidden to touch these machines ever again.
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Tim Douglass wrote:
> Well, geek to geek, I've been praying for you and your wife.
We appreciate it. I'm printing out all of these messages for her. Even the
ones from Larry. It's a get well card that has to be bound because a
stapler isn't quite beefy enough to handle the load.
>>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start.
>>:)
>
> I dunno, works for me.
It worked perfectly well for me too until I got married.
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Phil wrote:
> My prayers are with you and your family. Please keep us posted on how she
> is doing, tell her there are a lot of woodworkers out there keeping you
> all in our thoughts and prayers.
Oh yeah, I didn't do that. Well, on a scale of 1 to 10, she was a -5
yesterday. Today she was a -2. Tomorrow we're hoping for 0.
Two days is out the window, and I figure three days is out the window too.
I'm thinking maybe Friday. Maybe.
I'm wondering what happens if she stays in until Saturday. Maybe my
deductible rolls over and I get to drop another grand. Whee. But if it
happens it happens. I don't give a flying rat about the money until after.
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Patriarch wrote:
> You seem to be bearing up just fine. Continue to lean on your family and
> friends, even the ones you have only met on the bitstream. We continue to
> keep you in our thoughts and prayers, as evidenced by the many messages
> from around the net.
Friends in the bitstream are about the only kind I have anymore, but stuff
like all of this just gives me more ammo to fire at the people who tell me
I don't have any "real friends."
I'm glad you folks are out there, and I do appreciate the support.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
>>ones from Larry. It's a get well card that has to be bound because a
>>stapler isn't quite beefy enough to handle the load.
>
> Chunk of tubafore and an 1/8 x 1" crown staple oughta do the trick.
Nah, that's why I bought a comb binding machine. If I can't get a staple
through it, off to the binder it goes.
>>>>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start.
>>> I dunno, works for me.
>>It worked perfectly well for me too until I got married.
>
> It works again now that the mfgrs have put color-safe bleach in the
> detergent. I also use Simple Green in the wash at times. It helps
> with scents you don't want, like that splash of Oops! or dollop of
> caulking, or...
shellac stains...
Well, Mom the laundry fairy had the machines making swhooshing and thumping
noises when I got home from l'hopital today, so I guess I don't have to
worry about it yet. Thanks Mom!
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jo4hn wrote:
> 9. When washer gets quiet, open door, take out laundry.
> 10. If white stuff is now colored, start again at step 2 with more
> "bleach" and less soap. Repeat until all laundry is white.
ROTFL!!!
> Tune in next week for the episode entitled "dryer instructions" when
> we'll hear SWMBO say "Yer a dumbshit! You followed instructions given
> by some asshole with a number in his name!!?"
They dryer I have figured out. Put everything in. Turn the knob. Push the
button. When it beeps, push the button again. Repeat four times, then
pull the clothes out and put them back in the hamper and dump them in a
pile on the bed.
Then sleep in the floor. Those dog beds are kinda cozy.
Can anybody tell me how to fold clothes? :)
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Dave in Fairfax wrote:
> The bras and the pantyhose go in the mesh bags, not together.
> Might even want to put them in with the appropriate color/white
> load. DON'T use the dryer on them. Call me if this is a serious
> thread and I'll talk you through it.
We don't have a mesh bag, and I'm positive she always puts her bras in the
dryer. Probably why I'm always having to fix the mangled hooks, right?
I'm not much worried about bras. She won't be wearing one for a long time,
I don't imagine. It's hard holding those things up, and bras are really
uncomfortable on her. If ever there was a candidate for breast
reduction...
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Tim Douglass wrote:
>>worry about it yet. Thanks Mom!
>
> Aren't moms great?
Yup. She helped me get the tree down and put away all 437,651 ornaments and
pieces of both tiers of the Christmas Village. She's a good woman.
She's kept us fed a lot too.
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Tim Douglass wrote:
> just too much work for me. I do dishes the same way, I'll load the
> dishwasher and wash the pots and pans by hand, but someone else is
> going to put them away.
Yup. Same thing with groceries. I got out and put every bag on my arms,
and carry the entire trunkload of goodies, both jugs of milk and the jug of
kitty litter all in one trip, then I dump it on the floor and go get on the
computer. :)
Or I used to. :( Sigh.
At least I haven't started watching soap operas yet. Actually, since I've
been Mr. Mom, the kids haven't watched TV either. I haven't turned the
damn thing on all week.
Well.... No, that's not strictly true. My daughter got a Barbie "cam
corder" for Christmas. It's a wireless closed circuit TV camera. I've
turned the TV on so we could play with that.
Haven't watched any of that mind rotting gibberish with the moving pictures
though.
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:01:50 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>jo4hn wrote:
>
>> Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
>
>Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
>hanging with geeks like me. :)
Well, geek to geek, I've been praying for you and your wife.
>> I and a
>> whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
>
>Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
>
>OK, let me back up. I can do laundry. Mom can do laundry. Mom has even
>volunteered to come up and do the laundry. But Mom taught me how to do
>laundry, and my wife absolutely HATES the way I do laundry. So I need to
>ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
>Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
>whatnots.
>
>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start. :)
I dunno, works for me.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
My prayers are with you and your family. Please keep us posted on how she is
doing, tell her there are a lot of woodworkers out there keeping you all in our
thoughts and prayers.
Phil
Silvan wrote:
> I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
> following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
> She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
> didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct. He
> tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
> clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her side.
> It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
> tube out, about six weeks from now.
>
> She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
> completely,
> and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital, depending
> on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the aftereffects
> of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I were
> a
> betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
> looks
> terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
> funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
>
> Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
> Something
> just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
> tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
> air,
> a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took the
> news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was going
> to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
> malpractice.
> Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt as
> it feels like from the mood in the room.
>
> I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
> so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
> This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
> been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
> OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
> bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
> isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
> There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
> the
> professionals do their job.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
Morris Dovey wrote:
> I'll add that your wife will bless you if you air dry everything
> that's either Nylon or elastic/stretchy (like bras and
> pantyhose.) As we all know, it was for drying these items that
> show curtain rods were invented. ;-)
The bras and the pantyhose go in the mesh bags, not together.
Might even want to put them in with the appropriate color/white
load. DON'T use the dryer on them. Call me if this is a serious
thread and I'll talk you through it.
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
Upscale wrote:
> Har! That's a good one. A help line for isolated men needing washing and
> dryer machine support. I'm sure there could be a promising future in it for
> you Dave. :)
Nah, I'm too busy with my non-compliant patients (redundancy),
this is kinds a one-time offer under special circumstances.
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
Silvan,
I'm adding your wife to my prayers list.
As Lew said, " this too shall pass".
Tom
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
> following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
<sad news snipped>>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:03:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
>following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
>She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
>didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct. He
>tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
>clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her side.
>It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
>tube out, about six weeks from now.
>
>She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
>completely,
>and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital, depending
>on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the aftereffects
>of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I were
>a
>betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
>looks
>terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
>funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
>
>Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
>Something
>just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
>tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
>air,
>a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took the
>news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was going
>to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
>malpractice.
>Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt as
>it feels like from the mood in the room.
>
>I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
>so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
>This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
>been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
>OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
>bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
>isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
>There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
>the
>professionals do their job.
Well, praying sounds like a good idea.
It'll pass, but I feel for you in the meantime.
--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.
Can't tell you how to fold clothes, I just about follow your practice to
tee.
Have a look at this and if you can master it, I reckon you have it made
:) .
http://www.wimp.com/787/
John
Silvan wrote:
> jo4hn wrote:
>
>
>>9. When washer gets quiet, open door, take out laundry.
>>10. If white stuff is now colored, start again at step 2 with more
>>"bleach" and less soap. Repeat until all laundry is white.
>
>
> ROTFL!!!
>
>
>>Tune in next week for the episode entitled "dryer instructions" when
>>we'll hear SWMBO say "Yer a dumbshit! You followed instructions given
>>by some asshole with a number in his name!!?"
>
>
> They dryer I have figured out. Put everything in. Turn the knob. Push the
> button. When it beeps, push the button again. Repeat four times, then
> pull the clothes out and put them back in the hamper and dump them in a
> pile on the bed.
>
> Then sleep in the floor. Those dog beds are kinda cozy.
>
> Can anybody tell me how to fold clothes? :)
>
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:07:37 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>Silvan wrote:
>> Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
>>
>I think that, while some of you folks mean well, you have needlessly
>complicated the process of doing laundry. Just follow the simple steps:
>1. Put dirty stuff in pile.
>2. Open door to washer.
>3. Put pile in washer.
>4. Dump in some soap (usually found near the washer and probably comes
>in a large box).
>5. Rummage near where you found soap for other stuff like "softener",
>"bleach", and the like.
>6. Put a bit of each into washer.
>7. Start washer (usually done with a dial on the front; set to beginning
>of next "cycle" and pull center know out (or in, I forget)).
>8. Have celebratory beer.
>9. When washer gets quiet, open door, take out laundry.
>10. If white stuff is now colored, start again at step 2 with more
>"bleach" and less soap. Repeat until all laundry is white.
>
>Tune in next week for the episode entitled "dryer instructions" when
>we'll hear SWMBO say "Yer a dumbshit! You followed instructions given
>by some asshole with a number in his name!!?"
This is a keeper. My mom actually taught me how to do laundry, but
I've since discovered that you can wash everything together on warm
wash, cold rinse, normal cycle if you don't own any really good stuff.
One time when I was in the laundry room at the dorm at college I
watched a guy come in and start packing clothes into the washer. When
no more would fit he actually got on top and stomped the last bit in.
He added soap and quarters and left. When he returned he pulled all
the clothes out (some were still dry in spots) and stuffed them in the
dryer. Added quarters again and split. When the dryer had stopped he
removed all and headed back to his room, totally happy. I did wonder
what he was majoring in.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Silvan wrote:
>> I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks
>> are following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>>
>> She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the
>> surgeon didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from
>> her bile duct. He tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to
>> open her up and go in to clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the
>> bile duct and a bag on her side. It's supposed to form a...
>> fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the tube out, about six
>> weeks from now.
>>
>> She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
>> completely,
>> and her prognosis is excellent.
[snip]
You have the right to a copy of the record the surgeon dictates at the end
of surgery telling what was done and why. These get typed up within a few
days and placed into a record in the hospital's record room and you might
want to get a copy of it. Some places charge a few dollars for a copy but
nothing serious. After the surgeon's dictation gets typed up it still
takes a few days for it to go to the record room so you might call before
going over. Hospital information could tell you the phone number and or
extension for the record room and so on.
You probably wouldn't get much sense from it but almost any nurse or
corpsman could get a good sense of what happened and explain it to you.
I don't know anything about law suits - that is not my concern, but I do
know that they give each different type of surgery a different fancy name
and eventually you and your wife will be asked what the surgery was and
with this record you will have an exact name. And in a couple of years
when you try to remember exactly what they did/removed/added - you'll be
able to find out easily.
Best wishes!
Josie
"Dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> load. DON'T use the dryer on them. Call me if this is a serious
> thread and I'll talk you through it.
Har! That's a good one. A help line for isolated men needing washing and
dryer machine support. I'm sure there could be a promising future in it for
you Dave. :)
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> I appreciate all the kind words. I've printed up this entire thread and am
> taking it to her tomorrow. Quite the get well card!
Just found the thread, sorry I missed it earlier. Add another old
reprobate with no other-wordly connections to the list of good thoughts
and hopes for a speedy recovery. It may not count for much, but as the
little old lady said as she tinkled in the ocean, every little bit
helps.
Here's to a Happy New Year and better times ahead
/vic from rcw
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
news:271220042324362447%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:
<snip>
>
> Don't worry about unloading here. We may not be family, but we're as
> near as dammit.
And nearly as dysfunctional! ;-)
Patriarch,
wondering how I got 'the mostly sane one' out of the bunch of in-laws...
Echoing Patriarch's sentiments to the max! Prayers are with you my friend!
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:xA2Ad.29726$k25.11845@attbi_s53...
> Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip of a report of a scary day...>
>
> There's nothing that shakes me quite as badly as the notion that my wife
> isn't doing well. Nothing makes me feel more helpless, more immediately
> useless, more frustrated. I feel what you're feeling now.
>
> You have our support and friendship. If you aren't offended by the notion
> of others lending their faith on your behalf, you can have that, too.
>
> Hug the kids, and then leave them with friends or family, grab a large
> stack of books, and go sit with your wife until she kicks you out.
>
> Everything else can wait.
>
> Patriarch
That's the one! You've seen his works huh? ;-)
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
>
> > Juan Hung Lowe's Drive through laundry and taco stand! They do it
cheap!!!
> >
>
> Didn't he write "Trail in the Sand"?
Paul in MN wrote:
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
[snip]
You all know the name given to the fenderhead that graduates dead last
in his medical school class?
It's DOCTOR.
grit,
jo4hn
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Hug the kids, and then leave them with friends or family, grab a large
> stack of books, and go sit with your wife until she kicks you out.
>
> Everything else can wait.
>
> Patriarch
Good advice. They may not even kick you out. When my wife was in for 6
days, I was able to stay in the room with her 24 hours a day. That was
especially good since we were 400 miles from home on vacation. The room had
a window seat that converted to a bed. The hospital gave me sheets,
blanket, etc.
She may not say it now, but she will appreciate your staying by her side and
being there if for nothing else but to give her a sip of water or fix the
blanket. This is your time to be tough as she will need some extra help
when she gets home also.
I hope she has a good recovery. The body can do amazing things and heal it
self. You both have my best wishes.
Ed
Man, I had almost the exact same thing back in February. I thought I was a
goner and so did all the family. But, once they got through with all the
"procedures" it took me about 5 weeks to get back to about half normal and
it was pretty much smooth sailing from there. Just keep the faith and I bet
you will be doing the honeydo thing before you know it.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
> following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
> She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
> didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct.
> He
> tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
> clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her
> side.
> It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
> tube out, about six weeks from now.
>
> She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
> completely,
> and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital,
> depending
> on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the
> aftereffects
> of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I
> were
> a
> betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
> looks
> terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
> funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
>
> Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
> Something
> just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
> tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
> air,
> a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took
> the
> news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was
> going
> to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
> malpractice.
> Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt
> as
> it feels like from the mood in the room.
>
> I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
> so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
> This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would
> have
> been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in
> the
> OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
> bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and
> it
> isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
> There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
> the
> professionals do their job.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
Our thoughts are with your wife, you and everyone else. Surgery/anesthesia
makes you feel like shit, and gallbladder trouble ranks up ther very
highly. Just hang in there and believe in the good outcome that is at
hand!
Best wishes from your "family" in Fair Lawn, NJ!
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
(snip the story of a pretty tough day in the hospital)
That's a darned rough day for any family. Hang in there and give your
whole crew the support that they need.
FWIW, I can tell you that post-operative patients always look very rough
for the first 24 hours after surgery. She will get better. And if the doc
says her prognosis is excellent, then you can assume that things are
looking pretty positive -- because the docs always err on the side of
caution rather than optimism.
I have some experience in this area, also. My daughter had three major
heart surgeries as an infant. Those were some very difficult times. I
took up woodworking partly as a way to keep my mind off the stress. Now, a
few years later, she's doing great and I've got an enjoyable hobby.
IMHO, you may be surprised at how strong and resilient people can be.
Best wishes,
Nate
Patriarch wrote:
> There's nothing that shakes me quite as badly as the notion
> that my wife isn't doing well. Nothing makes me feel more
> helpless, more immediately useless, more frustrated. I feel
> what you're feeling now.
>
> You have our support and friendship. If you aren't offended
> by the notion of others lending their faith on your behalf,
> you can have that, too.
>
> Hug the kids, and then leave them with friends or family, grab
> a large stack of books, and go sit with your wife until she
> kicks you out.
>
> Everything else can wait.
Good words - well and truly spoken. I wish there were something
any of us could do to help speed her recovery and ease your worry.
--
Morris
We don't get to compare or contrast our challenges with those that others
face - those are irrelevant to our current challenge. The world isn't
against us. God isn't ticked at us right now (or at least probably not)
We don't live a comparative life. We each live the one we have, and deal
with the challenges in front of us. Sometimes they are caused by our
choices, often not.
How we deal with stress, challenge, uncertainty, loss, success, joy, fear
and unfairness both molds and reveals our character, and that of those
around us.
You seem to be bearing up just fine. Continue to lean on your family and
friends, even the ones you have only met on the bitstream. We continue to
keep you in our thoughts and prayers, as evidenced by the many messages
from around the net.
Patriarch
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
> following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
> She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
> didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct.
He
> tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
> clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her
side.
> It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
> tube out, about six weeks from now.
>
> She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
> completely,
> and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital,
depending
> on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the
aftereffects
> of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I
were
> a
> betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
> looks
> terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
> funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
>
> Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
> Something
> just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
> tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
> air,
> a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took
the
> news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was
going
> to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
> malpractice.
> Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt
as
> it feels like from the mood in the room.
>
> I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
> so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
> This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would
have
> been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in
the
> OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
> bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and
it
> isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
> There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
> the
> professionals do their job.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
My thoughts are with you as well Michael. I recently went through something
of this when my sister had a botched surgery. They were to remove a section
of bowel, which seemingly went well, but three days later, the stitches
ruptured, which in effect was poisoning her from the inside. We were very
lucky that this was caught as the surgeon who did the follow up as well
basically brushed it off as post surgery whining. If I ever see that woman
on the street it will take great internal fortitude not to plow her down
with my car. My sister looked as if she had aged 20 years in two weeks.
Thankfully she has well mended now and is back to her old self. I realize
this is little comfort at this time as there is no rationalizing while you
are in the middle of this. Just remember to lean on friends. That is what
they are there for.
Paul
Juan Hung Lowe's Drive through laundry and taco stand! They do it cheap!!!
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jo4hn wrote:
>
> > Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
>
> Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
> hanging with geeks like me. :)
>
> > I and a
> > whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
>
> Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
>
> OK, let me back up. I can do laundry. Mom can do laundry. Mom has even
> volunteered to come up and do the laundry. But Mom taught me how to do
> laundry, and my wife absolutely HATES the way I do laundry. So I need to
> ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
> Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
> whatnots.
>
> I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start.
:)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
> following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
> She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
> didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct.
He
> tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
> clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her
side.
> It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
> tube out, about six weeks from now.
You are all in our prayers Mike.
--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 04:19:15 GMT, John <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Can't tell you how to fold clothes, I just about follow your practice to
>tee.
>Have a look at this and if you can master it, I reckon you have it made
>:) .
>http://www.wimp.com/787/
>John
>
I've always wondered how they do that. Not that I'll be able to
duplicate it, but that was quite interesting.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:03:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I originally sent this to Dave Leader, but since some of you folks are
>following my wife's plight, I'm also posting it here:
>
>She had more than one duct coming out of her gallbladder, and the surgeon
>didn't notice this until after he had yanked it away from her bile duct. He
>tore a gaping hole in her bile duct, so he had to open her up and go in to
>clean up the mess. She has a shunt in the bile duct and a bag on her side.
>It's supposed to form a... fistula? eventually, and then they'll yank the
>tube out, about six weeks from now.
>
>She's alive. She's not doing very well. He says she will recover
>completely,
>and her prognosis is excellent. Two to five days in the hospital, depending
>on how she does. It's hard to judge with her still feeling the aftereffects
>of the anaesthesia, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, if I were
>a
>betting man, I'd put my money on the long side of the stay. She really
>looks
>terrible, and I feel like it's something of a miracle that I'm not making
>funeral arrangements. Just the vibe. I think they almost lost her.
>
>Or maybe the guy feels guilty because he screwed up. I don't know.
>Something
>just isn't quite right with the mood surrounding her. There's too much
>tension, and a feeling of things not said. A heaviness, a charge in the
>air,
>a, well, foreboding. The surgeon seemed genuinely relieved when I took the
>news without freaking out. Maybe all I felt was his dread that I was going
>to crawl up his ass and start yelling at him and screaming about
>malpractice.
>Or maybe she came as close to returning her constituent elements to dirt as
>it feels like from the mood in the room.
>
>I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
>so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
>This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
>been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
>OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
>bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
>isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
>There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
>the
>professionals do their job.
Silvan... not being religious, the best I can do is hope that she'll
come through this ok and tell you that positive thinking and attitude
for both of you can make a huge difference..
That being said, I'd suggest that if you have ANY doubts about the
surgery or care, get a 2nd opinion, quick!
My friend almost lost his daughter this year from a surgical mess on a
weight loss procedure.... the MD that was brought in for a 2nd opinion
saved her life by seeing a surgical mistake that the surgical team had
missed, that would of killed her from bowel leakage into the body
cavity or whatever..
IMHO, a 2nd opinion will either find a problem, so that you can deal
with it, or find that everything possible IS being done, and enable
you to be positive about her recovery and the staff...
Hang in there, guy... and try to be as positive as possible,
especially around the kids...
mac
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Silvan wrote:
> jo4hn wrote:
>
>
>>Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
>
>
> Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
> hanging with geeks like me. :)
>
>
>>I and a
>>whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
>
>
> Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
>
I think that, while some of you folks mean well, you have needlessly
complicated the process of doing laundry. Just follow the simple steps:
1. Put dirty stuff in pile.
2. Open door to washer.
3. Put pile in washer.
4. Dump in some soap (usually found near the washer and probably comes
in a large box).
5. Rummage near where you found soap for other stuff like "softener",
"bleach", and the like.
6. Put a bit of each into washer.
7. Start washer (usually done with a dial on the front; set to beginning
of next "cycle" and pull center know out (or in, I forget)).
8. Have celebratory beer.
9. When washer gets quiet, open door, take out laundry.
10. If white stuff is now colored, start again at step 2 with more
"bleach" and less soap. Repeat until all laundry is white.
Tune in next week for the episode entitled "dryer instructions" when
we'll hear SWMBO say "Yer a dumbshit! You followed instructions given
by some asshole with a number in his name!!?"
sigh,
jo4hn
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:01:50 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>jo4hn wrote:
>
>> Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
>
>Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
>hanging with geeks like me. :)
>
>> I and a
>> whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
>
>Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
>
>OK, let me back up. I can do laundry. Mom can do laundry. Mom has even
>volunteered to come up and do the laundry. But Mom taught me how to do
>laundry, and my wife absolutely HATES the way I do laundry. So I need to
>ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
>Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
>whatnots.
>
>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start. :)
not of you're dumping it at the cleaners.. *g*
mac
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 03:22:55 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> Well, geek to geek, I've been praying for you and your wife.
>
>We appreciate it. I'm printing out all of these messages for her. Even the
>ones from Larry. It's a get well card that has to be bound because a
>stapler isn't quite beefy enough to handle the load.
Chunk of tubafore and an 1/8 x 1" crown staple oughta do the trick.
>>>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start.
>> I dunno, works for me.
>It worked perfectly well for me too until I got married.
It works again now that the mfgrs have put color-safe bleach in the
detergent. I also use Simple Green in the wash at times. It helps
with scents you don't want, like that splash of Oops! or dollop of
caulking, or...
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:41:50 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>(Let's see, used to be $60 30 years ago, so 30 years from now it will be
>$6,000 a night, right?)
More like 3 yrs from now, as the American Dollar becomes
the American Peso.
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:03:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
>
>I'll be OK, Dave. The hardest part so far has been being strong for them,
>so they don't see how scared I am for their mother.
>
>This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would have
>been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in the
>OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
>bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and it
>isn't doing me any good to be worried now either.
> It's out of my hands.
>There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
>the
>professionals do their job.
... and prayers for the professionals doing that job aren't a bad idea
either.
We'll keep you and your wife in ours.
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Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:31:07 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>OK, separate the pure whites from the rest. Separate the lacy
>ladies (and crossdresser's) undergarments from the colored load.
>That gives you 3 separate loads unless she has a frail garmet bag
>to load the lacy stuff in. Start the washer, put the correct amount
>of detergent-with-color-safe-bleach in (up to the inner line on the
>cap for liquid laundry detergent/whatever portion of a cupful for
>powdered), then add the white clothes. Hmm, wifey might use a softener
>at some time during the load, too. ....
And watch those temps ! Only the heavy-duty whites
should go on hot, while the rest should go on warm/warm
or warm/cold (wash/rinse)
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:14:44 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
>It's not as bad as it could be, though, and we'll get through it.
>Pragmatism notwithstanding, I can't exactly force myself to put a happy
>face on.
Nor should you. Pretending things are all rosy when they are not does
not help anyone. Doing your best and keeping a positive attitude however,
is a good thing and not only helps yourself, it helps those around you help
you (if you know what I mean in that rather awkward sentence).
> It could be worse, but it's still pretty damn bad. I'm really
>glad she's alive. That haunted look on the surgeon's face scares me, but
>she's off the BP monitor now, and she managed to eat a little dinner. I
>think the last of the vultures have been shot in the head, and it's just a
>waiting game now.
>
>I hope.
>
>Thanks for all the kind wishes and prayers, and my condolences to those of
>you who have had it so much worse than this that this series of posts
>sounds like whining.
>
No, you are not whining, you are going through a tough time.
>So much worse than this that this... Now there's an awkward sentence for
>you.
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Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry
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GregP wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:31:07 -0800, Larry Jaques
> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>
>>OK, separate the pure whites from the rest. Separate the lacy
>>ladies (and crossdresser's) undergarments from the colored load.
>>That gives you 3 separate loads unless she has a frail garmet bag
>>to load the lacy stuff in. Start the washer, put the correct amount
>>of detergent-with-color-safe-bleach in (up to the inner line on the
>>cap for liquid laundry detergent/whatever portion of a cupful for
>>powdered), then add the white clothes. Hmm, wifey might use a softener
>>at some time during the load, too. ....
>
>
> And watch those temps ! Only the heavy-duty whites
> should go on hot, while the rest should go on warm/warm
> or warm/cold (wash/rinse)
I'll add that your wife will bless you if you air dry everything
that's either Nylon or elastic/stretchy (like bras and
pantyhose.) As we all know, it was for drying these items that
show curtain rods were invented. ;-)
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DeSoto, Iowa USA
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 03:34:20 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Patriarch wrote:
>
>> You seem to be bearing up just fine. Continue to lean on your family and
>> friends, even the ones you have only met on the bitstream. We continue to
>> keep you in our thoughts and prayers, as evidenced by the many messages
>> from around the net.
>
>Friends in the bitstream are about the only kind I have anymore, but stuff
>like all of this just gives me more ammo to fire at the people who tell me
>I don't have any "real friends."
>
>I'm glad you folks are out there, and I do appreciate the support.
Hi Michael,
Of course, we all wish your wife a speedy recovery...
How is she doing?
How are you doing?
All the best,
--
Kenneth
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip
> This is definitely not the kind of outcome I was expecting, or I would
> have
> been more worried yesterday. I didn't get worried until she had been in
> the
> OR for two, then three, then four hours for a 45 minute procedure. On the
> bright side, it wouldn't have done me any good to be worried sooner, and
> it
> isn't doing me any good to be worried now either. It's out of my hands.
> There's absolutely nothing I can do here, so I have to stand back and let
> the
> professionals do their job.
My sisters 92 year old mother in law went in and has similar surgery after
Thanksgiving. She is out now and doing remarkably well for her age
according to the surgeon although until her family was able to be with her
she was not doing so well. Your being there will make a world of difference
in her recovery especially until she is off the pain killers. Keep a close
eye on her to keep her cheered up.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:01:50 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>jo4hn wrote:
>
>> Well Michael McIntyre, you are my friend for better or worse.
>
>Hah, worse! Definitely worse! You really need to get out more and stop
>hanging with geeks like me. :)
>
>> I and a
>> whole bunch of other folks here are here to listen and do what we can.
>
>Can somebody tell me how to do laundry?
As a confirmed bachelor of 51 years, I can do that.
>OK, let me back up. I can do laundry. Mom can do laundry. Mom has even
>volunteered to come up and do the laundry. But Mom taught me how to do
>laundry, and my wife absolutely HATES the way I do laundry. So I need to
>ignore what Mom says and do this thing the true fluffy bunny Good
>Housekeeping way, with all the extra settings and fluids and powders and
>whatnots.
OK, separate the pure whites from the rest. Separate the lacy
ladies (and crossdresser's) undergarments from the colored load.
That gives you 3 separate loads unless she has a frail garmet bag
to load the lacy stuff in. Start the washer, put the correct amount
of detergent-with-color-safe-bleach in (up to the inner line on the
cap for liquid laundry detergent/whatever portion of a cupful for
powdered), then add the white clothes. Hmm, wifey might use a softener
at some time during the load, too. RTFM for the washer and see where
and when to put that in. Some allow preloading, others beep at you
to put it in. Once they're done, put them in the dryer. Cleand the
lint trap first, add an anti-static sheet, and dry on the Wash'n'Wear
setting. Whatever you do, don't use the Satanic Heat setting. It will
make everything turn Japanese-size, as in "Honey, I shrunk the
laundry.", something no housewife ever wants to hear again.
On second thought, let Mom do it and let HER take the heat when wifey
gets home and sees the mess.
>I think dumping everything in one big load is the wrong place to start. :)
Right. I keep a pair of pink, blue, and white undies (one pair,
tie-dye look) in my underwear drawer to remind me that I shouldn't
mix loads any more.
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 03:21:10 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Do racing stripes count as colors? :)
>
only if they were there before you wore them..
mac
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:28:04 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, Mom the laundry fairy had the machines making swhooshing and thumping
>noises when I got home from l'hopital today, so I guess I don't have to
>worry about it yet. Thanks Mom!
Aren't moms great?
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:30:58 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>They dryer I have figured out. Put everything in. Turn the knob. Push the
>button. When it beeps, push the button again. Repeat four times, then
>pull the clothes out and put them back in the hamper and dump them in a
>pile on the bed.
>
>Then sleep in the floor. Those dog beds are kinda cozy.
>
>Can anybody tell me how to fold clothes? :)
Clean clothes get piled on the dining room table. You eat standing up
in the kitchen. I don't fold clothes, if it has to be on a hanger I
will occasionally get them there, everything else sort of gets the
dump and cram approach to filling the dresser.
I'll wash and dry them (even did it when "laundry" consisted of 47
loads of diapers and one load of "people clothes"), sometimes I'll
hang some things up, but the whole folding and putting away thing is
just too much work for me. I do dishes the same way, I'll load the
dishwasher and wash the pots and pans by hand, but someone else is
going to put them away.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip of a report of a scary day...>
There's nothing that shakes me quite as badly as the notion that my wife
isn't doing well. Nothing makes me feel more helpless, more immediately
useless, more frustrated. I feel what you're feeling now.
You have our support and friendship. If you aren't offended by the notion
of others lending their faith on your behalf, you can have that, too.
Hug the kids, and then leave them with friends or family, grab a large
stack of books, and go sit with your wife until she kicks you out.
Everything else can wait.
Patriarch