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"robo hippy"

09/11/2005 3:58 PM

Flashback

I was at a show a couple of weeks ago, and a guy came up to me. He had
bought a small writing desk from me some years back. It had never found
a place in his house and he wanted to know if he could trade it in on a
smaller hall way table. I said fine. When he bought it over, I was
shocked. It had to be the first writing table I had ever made, and had
to be about 10 years old (I didn't sign and date them back then. It had
a hideous verathane finish (complete with drip marks) over a poorly
sanded surface. Who was the hack that put it together? It was still
solid, but the joints weren't nearly as tight fitting as they are now.
I stripped it and am going to refinish it. It is amazing to see how far
I have come in those 10 years. I sold that table for $125. I would sell
the same table now for about $700. My work has improved that much, and
of course, the cost of the wood has more that doubled.
robo hippy


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in reply to "robo hippy" on 09/11/2005 3:58 PM

09/11/2005 11:05 PM

I am not one to tell someone what to do... especially around here...
but don't refinish or rebuild your piece! Save it!

Some of my early work is still floating around where I can see it in
the houses of my family and myself. I get a kick out of it, and it
brings a small tear to my eye to look at some of it.

30 years ago (first year of full time carpentry and floor sweeping):
- beer was more important than my budding carpentry career
- nubile young women were more important than beer (remember those
sundresses?)

I did not own or have access to (some weren't invented yet) the
following:
- no planer
- no jointer
- no motorized miter saw
- no drill press
- no table saw
- no stationary belt sanders
- no table saw (job site use only)
- no biscuit machine - dowels with no jig only
- no band saw
- no pocket hole jigs
- no HVLP guns or wipe on finishes (stains, yes - finish, no)
- no exotic woods
- there weren't 10 billion woodworking plan and reference books
available at a nearby bookstore, and there was no >public< usenet
- white glue only! but worked as well as professional yellow (yup, we
tried it out on site). Sadly though, it was not waterproof - even with
paint on it
- no brad or finish guns - pilot holes with 3d, 4d, or 6d nails were it
- I only owned about 5 pony pipe clamps. Glue ups, assemblies,
everything took forever
- worst of all.... no shop. Everything was site built for the client
at their home (vanities, additinal cabs for remodels, built ins, etc.)
or in a friend's garage, including entire sets of kitchen, bathroom and
den cabinets

How did we do it then? I dunno.

All of those things I built in those days were built to maximize
materials, time, effort, and speed. They required planning,
forethought and some good timing with only hand guided tools. But I
was so proud of them... they all had a little piece of me in them.

Now I measure, build, modify, change, repair or whatever is needed for
my clients. I remember their names, but not what I did for them. I
could not tell you of what I have done in the last 10 years; just what
the client wants. I have gone back to client's home that I worked in
10 years ago, and if they have painted or stained a project, I may not
even recognize my own work if it was executed to their plans. No much
pleasure in that.

Some of the work I did 30 years ago was good, and some not so good. But
when I consider the work I did in those days and take a look at one of
my simple dining room tables, my repro English tea chest, a bedside
chest, a hall chest, a blanket chest, and some of the other things that
are still in the family even after all this time, and I really
appreciate the hand cut miters, the hand sanding and finishing that
damn plastic wood dough, and the simple doors I made. There was >a
lot< of work in all of those things, no matter how small.

I think you should keep yoru table as it is for yourself, to remind you
have far you have come, and how little you had when you started. You
would probably be amazed at the work you did when you carefully
consider the choice of tools, and working conditions you had then.

Just a thought...

Robert

PS: My older sister has one of my first measured wood working projects
I did as a kid. I proudly woodburned "Made by Robert L. Witte, August
1968" on it. Wow... was that a long time ago...

NW

"New Wave Dave"

in reply to "robo hippy" on 09/11/2005 3:58 PM

10/11/2005 5:39 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am not one to tell someone what to do... especially around here...
> but don't refinish or rebuild your piece! Save it!
>
> Some of my early work is still floating around where I can see it in
> the houses of my family and myself. I get a kick out of it, and it
> brings a small tear to my eye to look at some of it.
>
> 30 years ago (first year of full time carpentry and floor sweeping):
> - beer was more important than my budding carpentry career
> - nubile young women were more important than beer (remember those
> sundresses?)

You dirty rotten bastard! Just as I think I've about gotten over
the loss of my youth, people like you have to go and rub my nose in it.
--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston

md

mac davis

in reply to "robo hippy" on 09/11/2005 3:58 PM

10/11/2005 8:48 AM

On 9 Nov 2005 15:58:02 -0800, "robo hippy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I was at a show a couple of weeks ago, and a guy came up to me. He had
>bought a small writing desk from me some years back. It had never found
>a place in his house and he wanted to know if he could trade it in on a
>smaller hall way table. I said fine. When he bought it over, I was
>shocked. It had to be the first writing table I had ever made, and had
>to be about 10 years old (I didn't sign and date them back then. It had
>a hideous verathane finish (complete with drip marks) over a poorly
>sanded surface. Who was the hack that put it together? It was still
>solid, but the joints weren't nearly as tight fitting as they are now.
>I stripped it and am going to refinish it. It is amazing to see how far
>I have come in those 10 years. I sold that table for $125. I would sell
>the same table now for about $700. My work has improved that much, and
>of course, the cost of the wood has more that doubled.
>robo hippy

I think most of us can identify....

I look at the stuff that I did a year or so ago, especially turnings, and wonder
how I could have possibly considered them well done or finished..

It's a good thing, Reed... and a reality check, not only on how much your work
has improved but at what non-woodworkers consider acceptable or nice..




mac

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As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to "robo hippy" on 09/11/2005 3:58 PM

09/11/2005 9:09 PM

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:58:02 -0800, robo hippy wrote:

> My work has improved that much, and
> of course, the cost of the wood has more that doubled.

Sounds like your customer walked out with a gloat. He sucks.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "robo hippy" on 09/11/2005 3:58 PM

09/11/2005 9:52 PM

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:58:02 -0800, robo hippy wrote:

> It is amazing to see how far I have come in
> those 10 years. I sold that table for $125. I would sell the same table
> now for about $700. My work has improved that much, and of course, the
> cost of the wood has more that doubled. robo hippy

That's not unique to woodworking :-). I was a programmer for over 40
years and all along if I looked at something I'd done 5+ years ago I was
amazed at what bad software I'd written :-).


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