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"Pete Stolz"

21/01/2006 6:00 PM

where can I find some beech for a workbench top?

Hi guys,
I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I can't
find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens to have
a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for 3.29/bd ft.
right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks


This topic has 15 replies

rh

"robo hippy"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 11:20 AM

I was looking into getting a solid wood table top for a work bench. I
found that I could but ready made 6 and 8 quarter maple tops for about
the same price that I could get the wood for. I know Grizzly has some,
so does Woodcraft. I went to my local hardwood supplier, where they
give me a wholesale price. You may be able to get them through Home
Despot, or some of the other bigger stores.
robo hippy

GG

"George"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 4:28 PM


"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens
> to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for
> 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>

It would be a better bench. American beech is a different animal,
uncooperative when drying, anything but good-looking with wide unremarkable
sapwood, and likely to do a break dance in a damp basement come summer. In
the UP you can't give it away. Pallet lumber or pulp is what it's used for.

t

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

09/02/2006 2:43 PM

Just a little information. Kettle Moraine Hardwoods, located in Hartford,
WI carries beech. I know that may be a little far for you, however, they do
have a web site and I know they ship. Do a google search for them, they
have all their prices posted.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

23/01/2006 12:47 AM

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:39:07 GMT, "Charles Self"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Blew this once. I'll try again. You're not making do. You're doing better.
>The beech workbenches you see are European red beech, for the most part, a
>wood that is more stable than American beech. In the U.S., and Canada, hard
>maple is the way to go.

I agree.

I have a local dealer who sells "European Steamed Beech" and I have a
purchased European beech bench.

Maple is cheaper in the US, and better for benches. I believe euro
benches are beech because they don't have access to reasonably priced
North American maple.

European beech is good, North American maple is better!

Use maple!

Barry

CS

"Charles Self"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

23/01/2006 12:37 AM

"Phil-in-MI" <NO Spam & [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pete:
>
> At woodfinder.com
> there is a listing for a Co-op timber company out on Washington Island a
> short drive from GB.
>
> They list as having Beech, but just a small bit of info about the place at
> www.woodfinder.com so be sure to call ahead for how much beech they have.
>
> BTW: Beech wood bench top is more of an European thing. More important
> than the wood species of the bench top is the top being flat and stable.
> Maple would be my choice just for the $$$. Ready made bench tops as
> mentioned in post above, are very stable. But do watch the cost of
> shipping that much weight.
>
> Phil
>
> "Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
>> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody
>> happens to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4
>> for 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>>

American beech is not really stable enough for a fine work bench top. Here,
hard maple is better. European red beech is a whole different tale. It's
very stable.

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 2:32 PM


> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose
> anybody happens to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a
> good substitute? Thanks
>
At a price like that go for the maple, seriously. Out here in Cali I paid $6.85 and
$8.95 a b/f for the same purpose in a bench top, so, you have it good.

--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

PS

"Pete Stolz"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

22/01/2006 3:52 AM

I've been looking around at some of the benches that are commercially made
and they mostly seem to be made from beech. They also seemed to be of a
European flavor as well, at least the ones I saw. I figured if a bench that
cost over a grand used beech, they must know what they're doing so it would
be great for my little homemade deal too. But, now armed with proper
information, I think I'm going to make my own and do it with the maple
option. Thanks for the help.
Pete

"Phil-in-MI" <NO Spam & [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pete:
>
> At woodfinder.com
> there is a listing for a Co-op timber company out on Washington Island a
> short drive from GB.
>
> They list as having Beech, but just a small bit of info about the place at
> www.woodfinder.com so be sure to call ahead for how much beech they have.
>
> BTW: Beech wood bench top is more of an European thing. More important
> than the wood species of the bench top is the top being flat and stable.
> Maple would be my choice just for the $$$. Ready made bench tops as
> mentioned in post above, are very stable. But do watch the cost of
> shipping that much weight.
>
> Phil
>
> "Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
>> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody
>> happens to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4
>> for 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>>
>

CS

"Charles Self"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

23/01/2006 12:39 AM


"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been looking around at some of the benches that are commercially made
> and they mostly seem to be made from beech. They also seemed to be of a
> European flavor as well, at least the ones I saw. I figured if a bench
> that cost over a grand used beech, they must know what they're doing so it
> would be great for my little homemade deal too. But, now armed with
> proper information, I think I'm going to make my own and do it with the
> maple option. Thanks for the help.
> Pete
>
> "Phil-in-MI" <NO Spam & [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Pete:
>>
>> At woodfinder.com
>> there is a listing for a Co-op timber company out on Washington Island a
>> short drive from GB.
>>
>> They list as having Beech, but just a small bit of info about the place
>> at www.woodfinder.com so be sure to call ahead for how much beech they
>> have.
>>
>> BTW: Beech wood bench top is more of an European thing. More important
>> than the wood species of the bench top is the top being flat and stable.
>> Maple would be my choice just for the $$$. Ready made bench tops as
>> mentioned in post above, are very stable. But do watch the cost of
>> shipping that much weight.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> "Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
>>> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody
>>> happens to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4
>>> for 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>>>

Blew this once. I'll try again. You're not making do. You're doing better.
The beech workbenches you see are European red beech, for the most part, a
wood that is more stable than American beech. In the U.S., and Canada, hard
maple is the way to go.

PS

"Pete Stolz"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

22/01/2006 2:16 AM

Thanks for the great info, guys. Now I just have to actually make a
decision on whether to buy the ready-made one or if I want to make my own.
Decisions, decisions....
Thanks again
Pete


"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens
> to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for
> 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>

Cs

"C&S"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 3:54 PM

Pete,

Maple works well. I went that route. My lumber guy sells "sap maple" for
about that price. He also sells "brown maple" It's the same species
(sugar/hard maple) but it has some dark heartwood showing. Technically, it
is a lower grade of lumber because of these cosmetic defects. IME, it works
just the same and he sells it for $1.90/bf. I use it for all of my shop
stuff.

Ask around you could save quite a bit of $$ if you can find a similar deal.

-Steve



"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
can't
> find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens to
have
> a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for 3.29/bd ft.
> right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>
>

Pp

"Pawel"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

09/02/2006 10:05 PM

I am not sure where you are from, but The Wood Rack in Branford CT ha
beautiful european steamed beech , and it is cheap 3.75 bf. 4/4 and 8/4

pawel
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just a little information. Kettle Moraine Hardwoods, located in Hartford,
> WI carries beech. I know that may be a little far for you, however, they
> do
> have a web site and I know they ship. Do a google search for them, they
> have all their prices posted.

PN

"Phil-in-MI"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 8:26 PM

Pete:

At woodfinder.com
there is a listing for a Co-op timber company out on Washington Island a
short drive from GB.

They list as having Beech, but just a small bit of info about the place at
www.woodfinder.com so be sure to call ahead for how much beech they have.

BTW: Beech wood bench top is more of an European thing. More important than
the wood species of the bench top is the top being flat and stable. Maple
would be my choice just for the $$$. Ready made bench tops as mentioned in
post above, are very stable. But do watch the cost of shipping that much
weight.

Phil

"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens
> to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for
> 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>

GM

George Max

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

22/01/2006 4:22 AM

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:00:31 GMT, "Pete Stolz" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi guys,
>I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I can't
>find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody happens to have
>a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4 for 3.29/bd ft.
>right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>

Maple makes a great top. I made mine from hard maple about 15 years
ago. It's still in great shape and probably will be until long after
I've left this earth.

Some will point out that buying a top is possible, or even buying a
ready to go bench.

Those are good alternatives, but I must point out that building your
own from rough lumber allows practicing the skills that you'll use
when you make the furniture you'll put on the bench. Plus, you can
get the features you want. Take a look at a book by Landis, "The
Workbench Book." In it the author shows several styles and the
evolution of workbenches. You could pick and choose the kinds of
vices and the various helpers benches have used. Things like a board
jack or holdfasts. The particular features you choose should aid you
in the type of work you do or plan to.

CS

"Charles Self"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

23/01/2006 12:37 AM


"Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been looking around at some of the benches that are commercially made
> and they mostly seem to be made from beech. They also seemed to be of a
> European flavor as well, at least the ones I saw. I figured if a bench
> that cost over a grand used beech, they must know what they're doing so it
> would be great for my little homemade deal too. But, now armed with
> proper information, I think I'm going to make my own and do it with the
> maple option. Thanks for the help.
> Pete
>
> "Phil-in-MI" <NO Spam & [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Pete:
>>
>> At woodfinder.com
>> there is a listing for a Co-op timber company out on Washington Island a
>> short drive from GB.
>>
>> They list as having Beech, but just a small bit of info about the place
>> at www.woodfinder.com so be sure to call ahead for how much beech they
>> have.
>>
>> BTW: Beech wood bench top is more of an European thing. More important
>> than the wood species of the bench top is the top being flat and stable.
>> Maple would be my choice just for the $$$. Ready made bench tops as
>> mentioned in post above, are very stable. But do watch the cost of
>> shipping that much weight.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> "Pete Stolz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm trying to make a workbench top and I'd like to use some beech. I
>>> can't find it locally near Green Bay, WI. I don't suppose anybody
>>> happens to have a good internet supplier. :) I can find maple in a 5/4
>>> for 3.29/bd ft. right in town. Would that be a good substitute? Thanks
>>>
>>
>
>

PS

"Pete Stolz"

in reply to "Pete Stolz" on 21/01/2006 6:00 PM

21/01/2006 8:17 PM

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I can buy one from
Sears with two vises for $279
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=SEARS&pid=00965547000&tab=del#tab

or I could make one and put exactly the vises I wanted on it, plus make it
the exact size I need.


"robo hippy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was looking into getting a solid wood table top for a work bench. I
> found that I could but ready made 6 and 8 quarter maple tops for about
> the same price that I could get the wood for. I know Grizzly has some,
> so does Woodcraft. I went to my local hardwood supplier, where they
> give me a wholesale price. You may be able to get them through Home
> Despot, or some of the other bigger stores.
> robo hippy
>


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