Rr

"R.H."

10/08/2006 9:09 AM

What is it? CXXVII

Another set of photos has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 31 replies

kk

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 3:44 AM

739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
Good set this week.
Karl


R.H. wrote:
> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Bb

"Ben"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 7:50 PM

HATS ?


R.H. wrote:
> The gauge was not made to measure feet or shoes, though it was used on
> something common. Most people reading this probably own some of the objects
> it was meant to measure.
>
>
> Rob

kk

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 5:30 AM

New guess
740. shucking dried corn off the cob. Distance between the paddles is
about the thickness of a corn cob, slot size at the bottom of the
device is about the right size for the kernals to fall through, cob
could roll off out of the way. Easier than doing it by hand.
Karl

[email protected] wrote:
> 739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
> Good set this week.
> Karl
>
>
> R.H. wrote:
> > Another set of photos has just been posted:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 1:51 PM


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
>> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.
>
>
> This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire", the
> lower line "load scale on ground".




How Bizarre. I was in the tire business in the 70's and in particular
during the time when the tire was being switched over to the Letter and
aspect ratio sizing and later to the Metric and aspect ration sizing.. I
never saw or heard of that tool. Very interesting, I could easily see how
it would work.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 10:15 PM


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The gauge was not made to measure feet or shoes, though it was used on
> something common. Most people reading this probably own some of the
> objects
> it was meant to measure.
>
>
> Rob
>
>

Head/Hat sizing tool?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

12/08/2006 12:27 PM


"Smaug Ichorfang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> And big trucks and trailers (like semis) used even bigger - 10.00x20; a
> ten
> hundred-twenty. The tread was 10 inches wide and the rim was 20 inches in
> diameter. God, I've busted *so* many of those down by hand - split rims -
> using unly a wedge hammer and a pair of irons. I'm glad the industry
> finally got away from those and the split rim 16.5" wheels. I've seen
> retainers for spit rims come off under pressure and do amazing damage. I
> ALWAYS used a safety cage. Sorry....got away from woodworking for a
> second
> there, I'm back now.


Yeah it was a little dicey when filling the ten hundreds with split rims and
waiting for the beads to pop. While our store was relative small and did
99% passenger tire business we did get the occasional split rim. We had no
tire cage for airing up the tire so we laid the tire and wheel under a lift
and powered the lift down on top of the wheel and tire when airing up.

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 12:43 AM

R.H. wrote:
> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

741a. an early glaziers tool,the cutting wheel at the end gives it away.
;-)

--
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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 6:12 PM


"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:w%[email protected]...
>
> "[email protected]" wrote:
> 739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That seems plausible, but why would you have a double scale, with an
> offset? Also, did you notice that the offset changes as you move down the
> scale?


Mens and womens sized. A womans C width is not as wide as a mans C width.





> 738 appears to be a tool for spreading piston rings for installation.
> 740 looks like it would be for grating or hulling some agricultural
> product.
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 3:41 PM


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> >> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
>> >> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.
>> >
>> >
>> > This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire",
> the
>> > lower line "load scale on ground".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How Bizarre. I was in the tire business in the 70's and in particular
>> during the time when the tire was being switched over to the Letter and
>> aspect ratio sizing and later to the Metric and aspect ration sizing.. I
>> never saw or heard of that tool. Very interesting, I could easily see
>> how
>> it would work.
>
> It's a Goodrich Tire Caliper Gauge, so maybe it was something that only
> Goodrich used. I've also never seen any others like it.


LOL, I worked for BF Goodrich also. We sold posters of the Goodrich Blimp.
The poster had an empty cloudy sky on it.

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 7:50 PM

The gauge was not made to measure feet or shoes, though it was used on
something common. Most people reading this probably own some of the objects
it was meant to measure.


Rob

WW

"Warren Weber"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 10:40 AM


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
> #742 A brick chipper to size bricks to fit. W W

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Smaug Ichorfang

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 7:49 PM

"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in news:OICCg.64623$Eh1.7002
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
743 is a valve spring compressor, and seeing the date, I'd guess for a
flat-head engine.

SI

Smaug Ichorfang

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

12/08/2006 4:19 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Yeeeears ago, in the years leading up to about 1972. a very common
> sized tire was an 8.25-14. Meaning the tire was approximately 8.25"
> wide depending on the manufacturer and fit on a 14" wheel. The sizes
> typically went from, 5.60-15 for the Beetle, to 6.00, 6.50, 7.00
> 7.35, 7,75, 8.25. 8.55, 8.85, 9.00, 9.15 .

And big trucks and trailers (like semis) used even bigger - 10.00x20; a ten
hundred-twenty. The tread was 10 inches wide and the rim was 20 inches in
diameter. God, I've busted *so* many of those down by hand - split rims -
using unly a wedge hammer and a pair of irons. I'm glad the industry
finally got away from those and the split rim 16.5" wheels. I've seen
retainers for spit rims come off under pressure and do amazing damage. I
ALWAYS used a safety cage. Sorry....got away from woodworking for a second
there, I'm back now.

BB

Bart Byers

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 2:20 PM

R.H. wrote:
>> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
>> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.
>
>
> This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire", the
> lower line "load scale on ground".
>
>
> Rob
>
>
I thought it might be for measuring baseball games or symphonies because
it was divided into ninths. I wonder how that applies to tires.

dD

[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 9:01 PM

According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

As usual -- posting from rec.crafts.metalworking:

I think that you've outdone yourself coming up with weird tools
this time. :-)

738) Strange one. It looks a little like an electronics wire
stripper which I used to use fairly often.

However, it looks to me as though this one is intended to grip
two parts of something and then apply tension to it.

I presume that the cycle is that the pairs of jaws close first,
then they spread apart -- somewhat like the wire stripper,
except that this seems to have no blades for the purpose.

739) My first thought is that it is a caliper version of a
"shrink rule" used in making patterns for castings, where the
material being cast shrinks while cooling, so the pattern needs
to be made oversized to have the final product come out the
desired size.

However, the close-up of the scales shows it marked in letters
instead of numbers -- and the two scales are joined by diagonal
lines. So -- my guess is that it is a scale which can take
readings at two extremes of temperature to compensate for
thermal expansion.

740) A manually powered cotton gin? Or a wool card for short
production runs?

741) O.K. I'll guess that this one is at least in part a
glass-cutting tool. The square notches at the top are for
applying stress to scribed glass to break it.

The roller to crush glass to make the scribe line is in the tip
of the "horn" to the right.

The missing piece may be used for scraping out old putty prior
to replacing the broken windowpane.

The more massive part at the end of the handle is a "knocker" to
shock the glass along the scribed line, to start it breaking.

The blade shaped projection beyond the knocker may be for
guiding the glass into place -- perhaps for smoothing the putty
after it is in place.

Or -- it could be for breaking the paint sealing an old window
in place, and prying it clear.

The missing piece carries another crushing wheel, and with the
aid of the projections on either side may be for scribing a line
around glass tubing -- or even an old bottle to make it into a
beaker of some sort.

I've probably missed some functions -- but the above are my
guesses.

742) Perhaps an adze for shaping wood?

743) For lifing something -- and it looks sort of like a device for
compressing an automotive valve spring by lifting the lower end,
instead of pushing down on one end while lifting the other. I
guess that this could allow tying wire around the spring to hold
it compressed while disassembling the valve keepers and such.

Now to see what others have said -- starting with the comments
link on the web site.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 2:05 AM

According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > The gauge was not made to measure feet or shoes, though it was used on
> > > something common. Most people reading this probably own some of the
> > > objects
> > > it was meant to measure.

[ ... ]

> > Head/Hat sizing tool?
>
>
> Nope, it's not for measuring any body parts nor is it clothing related.

How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

12/08/2006 12:23 PM


"Bart Byers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> I don't understand why the gauge has nine divisions between each letter
> and the next.

I have never seen one myself, however as I previously mentioned, different
manufacturers started at slightly different locations of the tire to
determine the width measurement. Most tires back then had a rather
inconsistent tread design that sometimes wrapped around to the sidewall vs.
having a clear start and stop point for determining where the tread and
sidewall ended. I would suspect that the graduations would help the reader
take into consideration tread that appeared wider and or perhaps to help
determine if the next up size could be used. Measurements may have been
taken at multiple points on the tire.

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 12:47 AM

R.H. wrote:
> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

742. a pick for stripping the bark from large tree trunks.

--
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Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 9:13 AM


> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.


This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire", the
lower line "load scale on ground".


Rob

BB

Barbara Bailey

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 1:21 PM

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:26:52 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"[email protected]" wrote:
>739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>That seems plausible, but why would you have a double scale, with an offset?
>Also, did you notice that the offset changes as you move down the scale?

Men's sizes and women's sizes would account for it. When I was
younger, and wore a 7 womens, I could wear a 5 mens. Now that I wear
an 11 women's, I have to wear 9 1/2 or 10 in men's.
>
>738 appears to be a tool for spreading piston rings for installation.
>740 looks like it would be for grating or hulling some agricultural product.
>


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"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 8:35 PM

Most of them have been answered correctly this week:



738. Still unidentified

739. Tire caliper gauge

740. Corn sheller

741. Glass cutter combination tool, please see the answer page a list of the
tools.

742. Small garden hoe, that's what it was marked though I'm sure it could be
used for other purposes.

743. Ford Model A spring compressor


A couple new photos and a few links have been posted on the answer page:

http://pzphotosan129-rn.blogspot.com/



Rob

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 5:17 PM

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:09:02 +0000, R.H. wrote:

> Another set of photos has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
738: Looks like an ancestor of the Ideal Stripmaster:
http://www.hmcelectronics.com/cgi-bin/scripts/product/4440-0018

739: Some kind of caliper, maybe even for feet like Karl said.

740: some kind of grater, or wool carder. Maybe a ginger root grater,
or garlic?

741: ?

742: Ice adz? ;-)

743: Gag answer: P---y stretcher. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 8:12 PM

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:21:07 -0500, Barbara Bailey wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:26:52 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
>>"[email protected]" wrote:
>>739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>That seems plausible, but why would you have a double scale, with an offset?
>>Also, did you notice that the offset changes as you move down the scale?
>
> Men's sizes and women's sizes would account for it. When I was
> younger, and wore a 7 womens, I could wear a 5 mens. Now that I wear
> an 11 women's, I have to wear 9 1/2 or 10 in men's.
>>
>>738 appears to be a tool for spreading piston rings for installation.
>>740 looks like it would be for grating or hulling some agricultural product.
>>

I once did some programming for an "adult toys" shop, and they had ladies'
styles (like stiletto heels) up to I think size 17, which is about 12-13
in men's sizes. (they were for cross-dressers, of course.) :-)

Of course, this reminds me of the dildo joke, where the naive store clerk
inadvertently sells the boss's thermos. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 3:41 PM


> >> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
> >> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.
> >
> >
> > This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire",
the
> > lower line "load scale on ground".
>
>
>
>
> How Bizarre. I was in the tire business in the 70's and in particular
> during the time when the tire was being switched over to the Letter and
> aspect ratio sizing and later to the Metric and aspect ration sizing.. I
> never saw or heard of that tool. Very interesting, I could easily see how
> it would work.

It's a Goodrich Tire Caliper Gauge, so maybe it was something that only
Goodrich used. I've also never seen any others like it.

Rob

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 9:19 AM

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:41:35 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> >> How about tire widths? IIRC, they used to be coded with letters
>>> >> for the width, before the switch to mm for the width.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > This answer is correct. The top line is marked "size scale of tire",
>> the
>>> > lower line "load scale on ground".

>>> How Bizarre. I was in the tire business in the 70's and in particular
>>> during the time when the tire was being switched over to the Letter and
>>> aspect ratio sizing and later to the Metric and aspect ration sizing.. I
>>> never saw or heard of that tool. Very interesting, I could easily see
>>> how
>>> it would work.
>>
>> It's a Goodrich Tire Caliper Gauge, so maybe it was something that only
>> Goodrich used. I've also never seen any others like it.
>
>
>LOL, I worked for BF Goodrich also. We sold posters of the Goodrich Blimp.
>The poster had an empty cloudy sky on it.
>

Maybe those calipers were being carried in the blimp. ;-)



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"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

11/08/2006 3:36 PM


"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> New guess
> 740. shucking dried corn off the cob. Distance between the paddles is
> about the thickness of a corn cob, slot size at the bottom of the
> device is about the right size for the kernals to fall through, cob
> could roll off out of the way. Easier than doing it by hand.
> Karl


Correct, it's a corn sheller.


Rob

LL

"Leo Lichtman"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 5:26 PM


"[email protected]" wrote:
739. A gauge to measure the foot width of the foot for sizing shoes?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That seems plausible, but why would you have a double scale, with an offset?
Also, did you notice that the offset changes as you move down the scale?

738 appears to be a tool for spreading piston rings for installation.
740 looks like it would be for grating or hulling some agricultural product.

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 11:43 PM


> 740 looks like it would be for grating or hulling some agricultural
product.


Partial credit for this one, and also for Rich and DoN for their similar
answers. It was used for processing an agricultural product, though a
specific one that hasn't been guessed yet.


Rob

BB

Bart Byers

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

12/08/2006 12:48 AM

Leon wrote:
> "Bart Byers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>
>> I thought it might be for measuring baseball games or symphonies because
>> it was divided into ninths. I wonder how that applies to tires.
>
> Yeeeears ago, in the years leading up to about 1972. a very common sized
> tire was an 8.25-14. Meaning the tire was approximately 8.25" wide
> depending on the manufacturer and fit on a 14" wheel. The sizes typically
> went from, 5.60-15 for the Beetle, to 6.00, 6.50, 7.00 7.35, 7,75, 8.25.
> 8.55, 8.85, 9.00, 9.15 . This gave way to the tire sizes that included the
> letter and the aspect ratio. The 8.25-14 became a G78-14, 8.55-14 became a
> H78-14, 9.15-15 became an L78-15. That last larger sized tire was common on
> large Continentals and Cadillacs. Later the P metric sizing for passenger
> car tires was introduced in around 1977. The G78-15 became the P215-75-R15.
> The P indicated a passenger car rated tire, the 215 indicated that the tread
> was 215 mm wide and the side wall was 75% in height, as the width of the
> tread, the R stood for Radial and again the 15 was how many inches tall the
> wheel was. With those numbers you can determine how tall the tire is.
> Side wall width 75% of 215 mm X 2 + 15". 27-3/8" tall.
>
> As for the gauge, I guess it was used so that the tire salesman did not have
> to memorize the conversion when replacing an old 8.25-14 tire with the newer
> standard of tire measurement. The gauge would have measured a G on its
> scale for tire width.
>
>
I don't understand why the gauge has nine divisions between each letter
and the next.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

12/08/2006 2:20 AM


"Bart Byers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>>
>>
> I thought it might be for measuring baseball games or symphonies because
> it was divided into ninths. I wonder how that applies to tires.

Yeeeears ago, in the years leading up to about 1972. a very common sized
tire was an 8.25-14. Meaning the tire was approximately 8.25" wide
depending on the manufacturer and fit on a 14" wheel. The sizes typically
went from, 5.60-15 for the Beetle, to 6.00, 6.50, 7.00 7.35, 7,75, 8.25.
8.55, 8.85, 9.00, 9.15 . This gave way to the tire sizes that included the
letter and the aspect ratio. The 8.25-14 became a G78-14, 8.55-14 became a
H78-14, 9.15-15 became an L78-15. That last larger sized tire was common on
large Continentals and Cadillacs. Later the P metric sizing for passenger
car tires was introduced in around 1977. The G78-15 became the P215-75-R15.
The P indicated a passenger car rated tire, the 215 indicated that the tread
was 215 mm wide and the side wall was 75% in height, as the width of the
tread, the R stood for Radial and again the 15 was how many inches tall the
wheel was. With those numbers you can determine how tall the tire is.
Side wall width 75% of 215 mm X 2 + 15". 27-3/8" tall.

As for the gauge, I guess it was used so that the tire salesman did not have
to memorize the conversion when replacing an old 8.25-14 tire with the newer
standard of tire measurement. The gauge would have measured a G on its
scale for tire width.

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 10/08/2006 9:09 AM

10/08/2006 11:27 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The gauge was not made to measure feet or shoes, though it was used on
> > something common. Most people reading this probably own some of the
> > objects
> > it was meant to measure.
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
>
> Head/Hat sizing tool?


Nope, it's not for measuring any body parts nor is it clothing related.


Rob


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