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"Suanne Lippman"

22/11/2004 11:50 PM

Dust Collection with a PC333

It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much worse
than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at reasonable
rates?

I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.


This topic has 11 replies

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loutent

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

22/11/2004 8:06 PM

Like most others have mentioned, the little "can" that you get with the
sander is almost worthless for any serious sanding :-(

I use the long PC hose and stick the other end into the closest
available 4 inch DC hose, then open the blast gate. Works pretty well.

Lou

In article <[email protected]>, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:50:09 GMT, "Suanne Lippman"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much worse
> >than nothing. Any solutions?
>
> I use a 1 1/4" hose, like this:
> <http://www.oldhouseweb.com/ourStore/tools-552656B0000222WV.shtml>
> connected to a Shop-Vac, via one of these:
>
> <http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pi
> d=00924031000>
> and a 6' extension cord.
>
> A strip of duct tape helps keep the hose on, double sided Velcro
> straps tie the hose and power cord together. The Velcro was found at
> Staples. One hand guides the sander, the other holds the hose / cord
> assembly. A HEPA filter or drywall bag in the vacuum keeps most of
> the dust inside.
>
> Once you use one of those puppies with active suction, you'll wonder
> why you didn't try it sooner. Don't forget the ear muffs. <G>
>
> FWIW, the same hose and switch work great with biscuit cutters and
> other tools, regardless of brand. Duct tape is your friend.
>
> Barry

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

23/11/2004 3:55 AM

I called Porter Cable Customer Service about the dust can falling off.
They sent me a replacement that stays on.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:50:09 GMT, "Suanne Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much worse
>than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at reasonable
>rates?
>
>I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
>collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
>

RJ

Rob Jones

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

02/12/2004 7:34 PM

Eugene,

I bought some of bilge pump hose to duplicate your setup in my shop.
I have a question for you:

When I hooked this up to my ShopVac (via its 2 1/2 inch hose) I get an
incredibly loud whistling from the bilge hose! Did you experience
this problem, and if so, how did you rectify it? I'm thinking of
drilling some relief holes in the smooth portion of the hose...

BTW, the vacuum is a ShopVac model LM500 rated at 11A...

rob

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:16:17 +0000, Eugene <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Suanne Lippman wrote:
>
>> It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much
>> worse
>> than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at
>> reasonable rates?
>>
>> I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
>> collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
>I use 1 and 1/8" ID hose that I picked up and the Borg, its very lightweight
>even compared to shopvac hose. A couple pipe fittings adapt it to shopvac
>hose and then I get enough length to toss the shopvac out the back door to
>cut down on noise. I posted a couple pics on the binaries group a month or
>so back with the hose in my PC 892 router.

oO

[email protected] (Oughtsix)

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

26/11/2004 3:00 PM

One of the reason all of my sanders are Porter Cable is because they
all use the same size hose on the collection port.

4" belt sander (take off the bag hose fits on the metal elbow).
1/4 sheet palm sander.
6" right angle ROS.

I have not purchased the dust collection attachment for the 505 half
sheet sander yet. Any one have any feedback on how well it works?

bb

"bob"

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

22/11/2004 9:00 PM

Fein III vacuum does an excellent job capturing all the dust, and it's so
quiet you don't need hearing protection.




"Suanne Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much
> worse
> than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at
> reasonable
> rates?
>
> I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
> collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
>
>

En

Eugene

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

22/11/2004 7:16 PM

Suanne Lippman wrote:

> It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much
> worse
> than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at
> reasonable rates?
>
> I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
> collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
I use 1 and 1/8" ID hose that I picked up and the Borg, its very lightweight
even compared to shopvac hose. A couple pipe fittings adapt it to shopvac
hose and then I get enough length to toss the shopvac out the back door to
cut down on noise. I posted a couple pics on the binaries group a month or
so back with the hose in my PC 892 router.

St

"Sam the Cat"

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

22/11/2004 6:53 PM

I use a shopvac attaced to the dust port -- kinda like a poor mans fein --
dust free sanding. I do wear ear plugs, however since the shop vac noise
gets old after a while


"Suanne Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much
worse
> than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at
reasonable
> rates?
>
> I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
> collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
>
>

Ds

Dan

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

23/11/2004 12:18 AM

On Mon 22 Nov 2004 05:53:38p, "Sam the Cat" <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> I use a shopvac attaced to the dust port -- kinda like a poor mans
> fein -- dust free sanding. I do wear ear plugs, however since the
> shop vac noise gets old after a while

Yeah, me too. That canister is okay for a few minutes, but it depends on
the suction created by the sander, and that's not much. As soon as it gets
a little clogged a lot of dust goes someplace else.

But a shop vac on that thing gets ALL of it. It's a pain maneuvering it
around a piece with the cord and the hose, but I can sand anything anywhere
and not raise any dust. I've been sanding on the workbench base in the
basement guest room and SWMBO hasn't complained about dust on the
furniture. That's how I know it works. :-)

Dan

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

03/12/2004 6:45 AM

Randy <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Bought the PC hose, and it is great.
>

Amen. Someone here suggested you add a couple of loose plastic wire ties to
keep the hose and cord together, though. That works really well.

Patriarch

Rp

Randy

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

03/12/2004 4:41 AM

I tired the bilge hose too, and it shreiks.

Bought the PC hose, and it is great.

Rob Jones wrote:

> Eugene,
>
> I bought some of bilge pump hose to duplicate your setup in my shop.
> I have a question for you:
>
> When I hooked this up to my ShopVac (via its 2 1/2 inch hose) I get an
> incredibly loud whistling from the bilge hose! Did you experience
> this problem, and if so, how did you rectify it? I'm thinking of
> drilling some relief holes in the smooth portion of the hose...
>
> BTW, the vacuum is a ShopVac model LM500 rated at 11A...
>
> rob
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:16:17 +0000, Eugene <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Suanne Lippman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much
>>>worse
>>>than nothing. Any solutions? Are replacement cans available at
>>>reasonable rates?
>>>
>>>I am pretty committed to PC now, but if other brands have better dust
>>>collection (yet work as well) maybe I will have to change.
>>
>>I use 1 and 1/8" ID hose that I picked up and the Borg, its very lightweight
>>even compared to shopvac hose. A couple pipe fittings adapt it to shopvac
>>hose and then I get enough length to toss the shopvac out the back door to
>>cut down on noise. I posted a couple pics on the binaries group a month or
>>so back with the hose in my PC 892 router.
>
>

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Suanne Lippman" on 22/11/2004 11:50 PM

23/11/2004 12:10 AM

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:50:09 GMT, "Suanne Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It is better than nothing, until the can flys off, and then it is much worse
>than nothing. Any solutions?

I use a 1 1/4" hose, like this:
<http://www.oldhouseweb.com/ourStore/tools-552656B0000222WV.shtml>
connected to a Shop-Vac, via one of these:
<http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00924031000>
and a 6' extension cord.

A strip of duct tape helps keep the hose on, double sided Velcro
straps tie the hose and power cord together. The Velcro was found at
Staples. One hand guides the sander, the other holds the hose / cord
assembly. A HEPA filter or drywall bag in the vacuum keeps most of
the dust inside.

Once you use one of those puppies with active suction, you'll wonder
why you didn't try it sooner. Don't forget the ear muffs. <G>

FWIW, the same hose and switch work great with biscuit cutters and
other tools, regardless of brand. Duct tape is your friend.

Barry


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