Hi, I've got a job coming up and i'm trying to quote a price. How many
square feet of "click" together flooring laminate should I expect to lay per
hour. I've done a couple of other similar jobs but they had much more
intricate cuts ect. I'm thinking that I should be able to lay 100 squer feet
per hour? More /Less ? anyone with much experience. it's really a very
simple project but just takes time. thanks
Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
> glad that's a "go" on the Windex. SWMBO uses the no-drip type on our
> Wilson Art kitchen floor when she wants it extra clean. otherwise one
> of us will hit it with the wet Swifter for a quick cleaning.
> Unfortunately, that leaves marks unless you go over it with a dry towel.
>
> dave
>
>
Tried the special flooring stuff. Works better but still has some
streaking
and is freaking expensive! Best thing I've found is either toweling off
after mopping
or get results similar to the flooring cleaner by mixing up some
alcohol, vinegar, and
water. The streaking is really not an issue unless the blinds are open,
sunlight is streaking
across the floor, and the out-laws are coming over 8^)
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MSH wrote:
>
> Stems from having a "perfect" surface, maybe a darker color too. No grain
> definition to hide things.
>
> M Hamlin
>
>
Yep,
It does have some fake "pores" and grain such that it looks like wood
with a
finish over it that is not glass smooth, but still...8^)
I'm sure every other surface in the house has the same problem 'cept I
just can't
see it (a good reason _not_ to install laminate flooring)
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MSH wrote:
>
> Probably blasphemous, but after doing a considerable amount of it, I
> consider finish work(carpentry and floor coatings) as just an illusion. How
> can I trick the eye to believe that surface is flat, that wall is straight,
> that finish coat is perfect, etc....
>
>
I look at it as "decoration".
Once the utility disappears it is no longer required but usually
stronger
wills prevail 8^)
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Try using a cleaner designed for flooring. They leave no residue, similar if
not the same as Windex(I sometimes recommend a diluted solution of Windex as
a substitute). You will see no streaks if its clean.
M Hamlin
"Bruce Rowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Keeping clean is a real pain since you can see even the mopping streaks
> when the light
> hits it right.
I quite recently installed Shaw laminate click /glueless in three bedrooms
in my house this summer.
The rooms are about 10 * 12, and the planks were 7 -9/16" wide
I did all cutting in in my basement shop on a table saw, and only one board
at a time.
Assuming you have help putting it down, I think we took about 10 minutes
per coarse (row).
This includes measuring twice, cutting once , putting it in, and re-squaring
the floor as needed.
The final row always took much longer as it needed to be 'shoehorned in' and
cutting for the door frame
I think 100 ft/^2 is a bit optimistic - when you consider wood work and home
renos is not my profession but rather my hobby and 'frugal' side, and I only
worked on it when it was raining and couldn't go sailing, you might be able
to proceed much faster than I.
Matt
"Mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bpA%[email protected]...
> Hi, I've got a job coming up and i'm trying to quote a price. How many
> square feet of "click" together flooring laminate should I expect to lay
per
> hour. I've done a couple of other similar jobs but they had much more
> intricate cuts ect. I'm thinking that I should be able to lay 100 squer
feet
> per hour? More /Less ? anyone with much experience. it's really a very
> simple project but just takes time. thanks
>
>
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> how well is that going to hold up to liquid spills and damp mopping? I
> laid Wilson Art flooring, which is glued together. the glue is water
> resistant to prevent the edges of the boards from swelling from
> moisture. is the "click" stuff resistant to edge moisture?
>
> dave
>
Hi Dave,
At least some of the click together stuff has considered the mosture
problem.
Most brands have the top and bottom laminated for waterproofness
(well, maybe not the real low end stuff).. So that leaves you the
edges to worry about.
Some brands have a wax or other protective surface on the
tongue/groves. I used QuickStep/Uniclick, and the joints are real
tight and under tension which supposedly makes them water resistant..
that brand also has a water resistant core.. You can probably find a
better explanation on their website.. I was only using it in an office
and bedroom, so I wasn't too worried about water.. But they do
recommend not wet mopping it.
Also, after installing it, you caulk between the floor and the space
between the walls to seal it (covered later by 1/4 round molding).
In another house, I used pergo select in a kitchen which was glued..
I'm not sure I've met someone who has used click together in a
kitchen/bath/high moisture.
I have talked to people that love the Armstrong click together
product. That's worth looking into as well too. I forget if you can
damp mop that kind or not.
The click together is so much less labor intensive.. no clamps, glue,
etc..
But I'd research it further before putting it in a kitchen or bath..
[email protected] (tweety) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> For those of you who have had Laminate flooring for more than 5 years
> now, Can you give me the low-down as to how the flooring has lasted,
> water resistance.
>
> Also, interested to know if the floor makes noise since it is a
> "floating" floor.
Get the premium padding for it.. My flooring shop said the WilsonArt
premium padding was the best.. that's the one they use.. After having
used the WilsonArt and the Pergo Silent step, I agree that the
WilsonArt is the better of the two.
Premium padding reduces the noise a lot (in contrast to the cheap
padding).
It won't squeak (assuming the subfloor does not squeak.. go ahead and
screw down your subfloor to the joists before putting laminate down)..
Anyway.. the cheap padding lets you hear the clomping of feet.. the
premium stuff dampens it.
glad that's a "go" on the Windex. SWMBO uses the no-drip type on our
Wilson Art kitchen floor when she wants it extra clean. otherwise one
of us will hit it with the wet Swifter for a quick cleaning.
Unfortunately, that leaves marks unless you go over it with a dry towel.
dave
MSH wrote:
> Try using a cleaner designed for flooring. They leave no residue, similar if
> not the same as Windex(I sometimes recommend a diluted solution of Windex as
> a substitute). You will see no streaks if its clean.
>
> M Hamlin
>
> "Bruce Rowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Keeping clean is a real pain since you can see even the mopping streaks
>>when the light
>>hits it right.
>
>
>
>
"Mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Hi, I've got a job coming up and i'm trying to quote a price. How many
> square feet of "click" together flooring laminate should I expect to lay
per
> hour. I've done a couple of other similar jobs but they had much more
> intricate cuts ect. I'm thinking that I should be able to lay 100 squer
feet
> per hour? More /Less ? anyone with much experience. it's really a very
> simple project but just takes time. thanks
>
>
I can only tell you what my local dealer charges.
Installation: $2 a sq. ft.
Remove baseboards 50¢ a linear foot
Install old baseboards same as removing. New baseboards are quoted separate.
HTH,
Ed
thanks for the info, pete.
sounds like it would be WAY easier to install. I had to keep clamping
all the boards together with the special clamps and webbing. plus all
that gluing and wiping off the excess. it IS labor intensive. sounds
like you've got the right idea - use it in a bedroom or office. I'd be
leery of using it in the kitchen. When my dog finishes drinking from
her bowl in the kitchen she leaves a long trail of water... <g>
dave
pete rose wrote:
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>how well is that going to hold up to liquid spills and damp mopping? I
>>laid Wilson Art flooring, which is glued together. the glue is water
>>resistant to prevent the edges of the boards from swelling from
>>moisture. is the "click" stuff resistant to edge moisture?
>>
>>dave
>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> At least some of the click together stuff has considered the mosture
> problem.
> Most brands have the top and bottom laminated for waterproofness
> (well, maybe not the real low end stuff).. So that leaves you the
> edges to worry about.
> Some brands have a wax or other protective surface on the
> tongue/groves. I used QuickStep/Uniclick, and the joints are real
> tight and under tension which supposedly makes them water resistant..
> that brand also has a water resistant core.. You can probably find a
> better explanation on their website.. I was only using it in an office
> and bedroom, so I wasn't too worried about water.. But they do
> recommend not wet mopping it.
>
> Also, after installing it, you caulk between the floor and the space
> between the walls to seal it (covered later by 1/4 round molding).
>
> In another house, I used pergo select in a kitchen which was glued..
> I'm not sure I've met someone who has used click together in a
> kitchen/bath/high moisture.
>
> I have talked to people that love the Armstrong click together
> product. That's worth looking into as well too. I forget if you can
> damp mop that kind or not.
>
> The click together is so much less labor intensive.. no clamps, glue,
> etc..
> But I'd research it further before putting it in a kitchen or bath..
Ed,
if you've got a pooch, wait a couple more months, then you can give more
details on the wear of the engineered wood! I'm afraid to let my dog on
the newly refinished living room floor. Too much hard work to have it
ruined in short order.
dave
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "tweety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>For those of you who have had Laminate flooring for more than 5 years
>>now, Can you give me the low-down as to how the flooring has lasted,
>>water resistance.
>>
>>Also, interested to know if the floor makes noise since it is a
>>"floating" floor.
>
>
> My Wilson Art is about 6 years old. It is on the stairs and the section
> from th e kitchen to the stairs, and on a landing. It looks perfect, as
> good as the day it was installed. Not a scratch on it and this is the
> heaviest traffic section of the house. It gets damp mopped about once a
> week. It makes no noise from being floating either.
>
> I just put Mannington engineered wood in my family room and downstairs
> hallway. IMO, it looks better (real wood) but in six or twelve years will
> probably show more wear than the Wilson Art. It has only been in for a
> month, so I cant give more details on wear.
> Ed
>
>
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ed,
>
> if you've got a pooch, wait a couple more months, then you can give more
> details on the wear of the engineered wood! I'm afraid to let my dog on
> the newly refinished living room floor. Too much hard work to have it
> ruined in short order.
>
>
> dave
Small pooch. And very old. Sleeps about 23.5 hours a day.
It is not the floor I'd have with a big Lab or active beagle.
Ed
I've got wilson art in the kitchen which I laid about 4 years ago. It
gets wet and hasn't been damaged at all. It makes NO noises of any
kind. Wish I could say that about the rest of the house. I was careful
to get enough glue on all the seams. If you don't install it correctly,
you'll must likely suffer water damage when there's standing water over
a partially glued seam.
dave
tweety wrote:
> For those of you who have had Laminate flooring for more than 5 years
> now, Can you give me the low-down as to how the flooring has lasted,
> water resistance.
>
> Also, interested to know if the floor makes noise since it is a
> "floating" floor.
"tweety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For those of you who have had Laminate flooring for more than 5 years
> now, Can you give me the low-down as to how the flooring has lasted,
> water resistance.
>
> Also, interested to know if the floor makes noise since it is a
> "floating" floor.
My Wilson Art is about 6 years old. It is on the stairs and the section
from th e kitchen to the stairs, and on a landing. It looks perfect, as
good as the day it was installed. Not a scratch on it and this is the
heaviest traffic section of the house. It gets damp mopped about once a
week. It makes no noise from being floating either.
I just put Mannington engineered wood in my family room and downstairs
hallway. IMO, it looks better (real wood) but in six or twelve years will
probably show more wear than the Wilson Art. It has only been in for a
month, so I cant give more details on wear.
Ed