Pp

Puckdropper

12/05/2012 10:18 PM

Fire - An important lesson

I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
that's not important.

What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools do)
and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after the
cut finished!

That's right, I had started a fire with my router!

After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove into
the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.

Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
out there.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.


This topic has 10 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

12/05/2012 4:18 PM


"Puckdropper" wrote:

>I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with
>a
> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably
> trying to
> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too,
> but
> that's not important.
>
> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting
> tools do)
> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking
> after the
> cut finished!
>
> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>
> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the
> groove into
> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>
> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be
> careful
> out there.

--------------------
That dull bit was a primary source of the heat required to have
ignition.

Dull bits will bite you in the rear every time they can.

Glad to see there was no serious damage.

Lew


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

13/05/2012 1:27 AM



"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
> that's not important.
>
> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools
> do)
> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after
> the
> cut finished!
>
> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>
> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove
> into
> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>
> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
> out there.
>
If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
fireplace!


Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

14/05/2012 2:18 AM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Which requires keeping it around for a while before using it - and if
> it's not strapped down half the time it's too crooked to use by the
> time it's dry enough to burn.
>

Very true. The wood is old and has a twist in it. I'm not sure how I'll
handle that, but I'm thinking of cutting the deck rail to fit the board
face. Hopefully it's dry enough to not twist any more.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

JS

John Shear

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

14/05/2012 10:05 AM

I've experienced smelly burning but not to the point of smoking! I
changed to using an up-cut spiral bit if I need to route a dado or
groove and that, along the the dust collection on the router keeps the
cut fairly clean and burn free.

John S.

On 05/12/2012 05:18 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
> that's not important.
>
> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools do)
> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after the
> cut finished!
>
> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>
> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove into
> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>
> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
> out there.
>
> Puckdropper

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

14/05/2012 10:13 PM

Scott Lurndal wrote:

>
> Farmers used to say that about freshly baled hay, too. A few barn
> fires later....
>

A totally different scenario. Farmers knew that green hay created heat as
it dried. They were just stupid in putting it in that green. It isn't
about freshly bailed hay - that can be perfectly safe... it's about freshly
cut hay.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

14/05/2012 7:32 AM

On 5/13/2012 8:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>
>>>> If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
>>>> fireplace!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Most PT is too blamed WET to burn.
>>
>> Until it dries out.....
> Which requires keeping it around for a while before using it - and if
> it's not strapped down half the time it's too crooked to use by the
> time it's dry enough to burn.

?


Believe me, a dull enough bit or blade will quickly dry out wet lumber.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

14/05/2012 4:38 PM

[email protected] writes:
>On Sun, 13 May 2012 01:27:15 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
><leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
>>> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
>>> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
>>> that's not important.
>>>
>>> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools
>>> do)
>>> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
>>> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after
>>> the
>>> cut finished!
>>>
>>> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>>>
>>> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove
>>> into
>>> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>>>
>>> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
>>> out there.
>>>
>>If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
>>fireplace!
>>
>>
>Most PT is too blamed WET to burn.

Farmers used to say that about freshly baled hay, too. A few barn fires
later....

scott

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

13/05/2012 2:47 PM

On 5/13/2012 12:19 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 01:27:15 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Puckdropper"<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
>>> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
>>> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
>>> that's not important.
>>>
>>> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools
>>> do)
>>> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
>>> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after
>>> the
>>> cut finished!
>>>
>>> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>>>
>>> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove
>>> into
>>> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>>>
>>> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
>>> out there.
>>>
>> If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
>> fireplace!
>>
>>
> Most PT is too blamed WET to burn.

Until it dries out.....

c

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

13/05/2012 1:19 PM

On Sun, 13 May 2012 01:27:15 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:

>
>
>"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
>> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
>> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
>> that's not important.
>>
>> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools
>> do)
>> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
>> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after
>> the
>> cut finished!
>>
>> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>>
>> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove
>> into
>> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>>
>> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
>> out there.
>>
>If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
>fireplace!
>
>
Most PT is too blamed WET to burn.

c

in reply to Puckdropper on 12/05/2012 10:18 PM

13/05/2012 9:08 PM

On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:47:16 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 5/13/2012 12:19 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 01:27:15 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
>> <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Puckdropper"<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> I was cutting a couple of grooves in a piece of pressure treated with a
>>>> router. I was using a 1/4" bit set to about 1/2" and probably trying to
>>>> take too big of cut. The bit felt like it was a little dull too, but
>>>> that's not important.
>>>>
>>>> What is important is the result. I smelled burning (like cutting tools
>>>> do)
>>>> and just thought it was the normal dull tool/too big of bite type of
>>>> burning. However, the wood started to smoke! It kept on smoking after
>>>> the
>>>> cut finished!
>>>>
>>>> That's right, I had started a fire with my router!
>>>>
>>>> After filling a bucket with water, I shoveled the dust from the groove
>>>> into
>>>> the bucket. Some of the dust was red and obviously burning.
>>>>
>>>> Everything's extinguished now, but this is one more reminder to be careful
>>>> out there.
>>>>
>>> If you run out of matches, you now have a backup plan to light the
>>> fireplace!
>>>
>>>
>> Most PT is too blamed WET to burn.
>
>Until it dries out.....
Which requires keeping it around for a while before using it - and if
it's not strapped down half the time it's too crooked to use by the
time it's dry enough to burn.


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