Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
is my favorite utility knife.
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.
Leon wrote:
> "Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>
>
>>You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.
>
>
> You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
> a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
> not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
> working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
> It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)
>
>
>
>
>
>>--
>>********
>>Bill Pounds
>>http://www.billpounds.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
Perhaps the lesson is "don't glue up stuff on your table saw?" I know I
never will again!
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:22 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>>>Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far.
>>
>> I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever.
>
>You don't have to. Haven't you ever heard of Social Security? You can
>retire at 111 and live forever on $2 a day.
By the time I'm 111 I'll be way to anti-social to draw social
security. They're more likely to be sending security to pick me up.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:j%[email protected]...
> 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
> legs. I did not even get mad.
>
>
You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.
--
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"Tim Douglass" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
How's that workin out so far?
Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far.
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You're not really 45k behind if you continue working though are you? If
you make more than $950/mth then you'll still end up with more in the
end. SS is also in no danger of imploding, here is a well researched
article about it
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/16/magazine/16SOCIAL.html?oref=login if
you're interested
Knothead wrote:
> You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
> ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
> me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
$175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.
Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.
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Silvan responds:
>Knothead wrote:
>
>> You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
>> ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
>> me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
>
>Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
>new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
>will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
>$175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.
>
>Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.
You think? My father went nuts when I bought a new Chevy convertible in '57.
Just under 3 grand. That was the 283, dual 4s, close ratio column 3 speed and
absolute shit for brakes and gas mileage, though that sucker would fly. He had
bought 2 new cars when he and my mother got married in '34: under a grand, well
under, and one was a car I'd kill for today, a rumble seat Ford coupe.
Of course, there are people today who will just about kill for that '57, but
that's a "been there, done that" and scared myself spitless a few times with
the handling and brakes. It was wonderful at 19, but not now.
Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but...
Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush
Charlie Self wrote:
>>Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.
>
> You think? My father went nuts when I bought a new Chevy convertible in
Or not pessimistic enough? :)
> '57. Just under 3 grand. That was the 283, dual 4s, close ratio column 3
> speed and absolute shit for brakes and gas mileage, though that sucker
> would fly. He had bought 2 new cars when he and my mother got married in
> '34: under a grand, well under, and one was a car I'd kill for today, a
> rumble seat Ford coupe.
Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay
Leno wannabe. I drove it a little. Beautiful car. Cherry. Gorgeous.
But it weighed 400,000 pounds and it only had about 1/16 oz. of brake fluid
in the ultra miniature master cylinder. Holy shit dude, WTF were they
thinking back then? No power steering either. Pretty to look at, but it
really sucked to drive. That ended my infatuation with the '57 Chevy
forever.
I kind of outgrew cars more generally anyway though, really. Cars are one
huge black hole for cashola. A habit I never could afford, and I finally
stopped daydreaming about it.
> Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but...
That expensive, really? What sets it apart as being a $45,000 car? Just
the chick factor? I'd say it's more of a $25,000 car, but maybe I'm
dreaming.
Everything is relative though. My grandfather paid $3,000 for a house in
1950-something, and he paid $3,000 for a car in 1970-something, and he paid
$3,000 for pills in 2004.
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Silvan asks:
>Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay
>Leno wannabe. I drove it a little. Beautiful car. Cherry. Gorgeous.
>But it weighed 400,000 pounds and it only had about 1/16 oz. of brake fluid
>in the ultra miniature master cylinder. Holy shit dude, WTF were they
>thinking back then? No power steering either. Pretty to look at, but it
>really sucked to drive. That ended my infatuation with the '57 Chevy
>forever.
Not exactly "What they were thinking," but the spot on the technological
history line that was probable at the time---disk brakes weren't available,
power steering, IIRC, was but was pricey as hell, and hey weren't really that
bad to drive...in a straight line.
>> Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but...
>
>That expensive, really? What sets it apart as being a $45,000 car? Just
>the chick factor? I'd say it's more of a $25,000 car, but maybe I'm
>dreamin
Performance. Plain tire squealing performance. Today, they've added handling
and stopping power and are getting similar speed from much smaller engines
(mechanical fuel injection was available on the engine I got, but it added
about $425 extra to the under 3K price; almost everything on the market today
has EF and dual overhead cams instead of Duntov's 3/4 race single cam in the
block...but that small block Chev is still made today, and is probably the
single most popular engine ever designed).>Everything is relative though.
>My grandfather paid $3,000 for a house in
>1950-something, and he paid $3,000 for a car in 1970-something, and he paid
>$3,000 for pills in 2004.
It kind of works that way. My mother bought her retirement home in Huddleson
for $11,500 in '78. Try to find ANY kind of home for $11,500 in Bedford County
today.
Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000
Charlie Self wrote:
>>Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay
> Not exactly "What they were thinking," but the spot on the technological
> history line that was probable at the time---disk brakes weren't
> available, power steering, IIRC, was but was pricey as hell, and hey
> weren't really that bad to drive...in a straight line.
As long as you didn't need to stop. Stopping was a real problem for those
things. First I almost ran a stop sign, then I looked at the master
cylinder and scratched my head. Yoiks.
Maybe all drum brake systems need less fluid than drum/disc or disc/disc
come to think of it, but it sure wasn't very reassuring to look at.
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Tim Douglass wrote:
> Knew a guy who had a 68 Plymouth Barracuda with 426 Max Wedge and a 4
> speed. That sucker would flat haul a**! Only problem was that it had
A friend of mine in high school had a '67 Hemicuda. He ultimately destroyed
it getting T-boned by an '87 Monte Carlo.
It put his head through the window and banged him up good, but I still cry
more for the poor 'Cuda than my friend's thick skull. Dumbass. What a
car. :(
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On 23 Jan 2005 09:11:47 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
... snip
> single most popular engine ever designed).>Everything is relative though.
>>My grandfather paid $3,000 for a house in
>>1950-something, and he paid $3,000 for a car in 1970-something, and he paid
>>$3,000 for pills in 2004.
>
>It kind of works that way. My mother bought her retirement home in Huddleson
>for $11,500 in '78. Try to find ANY kind of home for $11,500 in Bedford County
>today.
>
But look at what wages were back then as well compared to now. Entry
level engineers are making better than twice what entry level engineers
were making in the late '70s and '80s; I'm sure that other careers are
equivalently changed as well.
>
>
>Charlie Self
>"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
>kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
>2000
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:32:15 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Charlie Self wrote:
>
>>>Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay
>
>> Not exactly "What they were thinking," but the spot on the technological
>> history line that was probable at the time---disk brakes weren't
>> available, power steering, IIRC, was but was pricey as hell, and hey
>> weren't really that bad to drive...in a straight line.
>
>As long as you didn't need to stop. Stopping was a real problem for those
>things. First I almost ran a stop sign, then I looked at the master
>cylinder and scratched my head. Yoiks.
>
>Maybe all drum brake systems need less fluid than drum/disc or disc/disc
>come to think of it, but it sure wasn't very reassuring to look at.
Knew a guy who had a 68 Plymouth Barracuda with 426 Max Wedge and a 4
speed. That sucker would flat haul a**! Only problem was that it had
8" drum brakes on the front and 6" drums on the rear. You could
literally stop it faster with engine compression than with the brakes.
Handled pretty good on the curves though.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:56:23 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> Knew a guy who had a 68 Plymouth Barracuda with 426 Max Wedge and a 4
>> speed. That sucker would flat haul a**! Only problem was that it had
>
>A friend of mine in high school had a '67 Hemicuda. He ultimately destroyed
>it getting T-boned by an '87 Monte Carlo.
Stop, stop! You're making me cry! I've always lusted after a Hemi
Cuda. Love those old Mopars!
>It put his head through the window and banged him up good, but I still cry
>more for the poor 'Cuda than my friend's thick skull. Dumbass. What a
>car. :(
I've had some friends like that...
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:58:04 -0800, Tim Douglass <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:32:15 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Charlie Self wrote:
>>
>>>>Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay
>>
>>> Not exactly "What they were thinking," but the spot on the technological
>>> history line that was probable at the time---disk brakes weren't
>>> available, power steering, IIRC, was but was pricey as hell, and hey
>>> weren't really that bad to drive...in a straight line.
>>
>>As long as you didn't need to stop. Stopping was a real problem for those
>>things. First I almost ran a stop sign, then I looked at the master
>>cylinder and scratched my head. Yoiks.
>>
>>Maybe all drum brake systems need less fluid than drum/disc or disc/disc
>>come to think of it, but it sure wasn't very reassuring to look at.
>
>Knew a guy who had a 68 Plymouth Barracuda with 426 Max Wedge and a 4
>speed. That sucker would flat haul a**! Only problem was that it had
>8" drum brakes on the front and 6" drums on the rear. You could
>literally stop it faster with engine compression than with the brakes.
>
>Handled pretty good on the curves though.
With brakes like that, it had to. :-)
>
>Tim Douglass
>
>http://www.DouglassClan.com
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Tim Douglass wrote:
> It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
> whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
> I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
> payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
breaking.
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Silvan responds:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
>> whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
>> I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
>> payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>
>I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>breaking.
Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day. No
thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first.
Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush
Charlie Self wrote:
>>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>>breaking.
>
> Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day.
> No thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first.
ROFL!! I was afraid somebody was gonna see those. :)
Now you have a leg up on about every other Wrecker though. You know what
SWMBO and the young'uns look like.
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Charlie Self wrote:
> Silvan responds:
>
>
>>Tim Douglass wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
>>>whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
>>>I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
>>>payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>>
>>I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
>>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>>breaking.
>
>
> Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day. No
> thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first.
>
> Charlie Self
> "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
> that which is expected." George W. Bush
Jeeeeeeezz. A whole newsgroup full of babe magnets.
urp,
j4
Tim Douglass wrote:
>>Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far.
>
> I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever.
You don't have to. Haven't you ever heard of Social Security? You can
retire at 111 and live forever on $2 a day.
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[email protected] wrote:
> ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of
> Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in
> the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not.
Whenever I look at my butt in the mirror I just get depressed. I look like
Hank Hill.
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Upscale wrote:
>> internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures
>> of
>> me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>> breaking.
>
> Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post
> those pictures.
Excellent. OK, Wreck, for $500 I promise not to allow myself to be seen /en
deshabillé/ (that's nekkit for you ignernt types what ain't learnt no
French) for 7 whole days. Pay up. If'n y'uns don't pony up the
greenbacks, I'm a-showin' y'all the fat back.
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Tim Douglass wrote:
>>Whenever I look at my butt in the mirror I just get depressed. I look
>>like Hank Hill.
>
> I believe that's an occupational hazard.
True, and for a truck driver, um, freight distrubution engineering
technologist, I'm actually pretty sexy and stuff. Sort of.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> ADDENDUM: This just in from a friend. I thought it very apropos
> for you. http://home.pacbell.net/sneaks2/ijdlgnam.mp3
LOL!
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:j%[email protected]...
>
>
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
> the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me
Gzzt! Snort! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
A drive by?
[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:32 -0500, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Tim Douglass wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
>>>whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
>>>I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
>>>payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>>
>>I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
>>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>>breaking.
>
>
>
> ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of
> Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in
> the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not.
Don't know that Rob is gonna supply you a photo though...
j4
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
>table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
>relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
>Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
>ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
>The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
>been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
>summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
>the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
>harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
>it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
>off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
>rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
>between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
>is my favorite utility knife.
>20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
>legs. I did not even get mad.
>
leon you need to come by later and clean the cup o hot chocolate off
my keyboard :-]> ONE more push otta do it!!! lmao
skeez
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:32 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
>> whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
>> I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
>> payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>
>I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>breaking.
ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of
Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in
the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not.
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:53:59 -0800, the inscrutable Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> spake:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:47:08 -0500, the inscrutable Silvan
><[email protected]> spake:
>
>>Upscale wrote:
>>
>>>> internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures
>>>> of
>>>> me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>>>> breaking.
>>>
>>> Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post
>>> those pictures.
>>
>>Excellent. OK, Wreck, for $500 I promise not to allow myself to be seen /en
>>deshabillé/ (that's nekkit for you ignernt types what ain't learnt no
>>French) for 7 whole days. Pay up. If'n y'uns don't pony up the
>>greenbacks, I'm a-showin' y'all the fat back.
>
>Now we know the source of the word "shabby", Silvie.
>('Taint shabby chic, neither.)
ADDENDUM: This just in from a friend. I thought it very apropos
for you. http://home.pacbell.net/sneaks2/ijdlgnam.mp3
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:17:42 -0800, "Pounds on Wood"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Tim Douglass" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>
>> - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>
>
>How's that workin out so far?
Still workin' haven't died yet, so I guess I'm on a roll here.
>Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far.
I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Leon wrote:
[snip] The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
> the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
> harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
> it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
> off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
> rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
> between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
> is my favorite utility knife.
I have a bottle of TBII that is a year or so old. Lately I have noticed
that the glue clumps and won't come out of the bottle elegantly. I
remove the top of the bottle, ream it out with a 6d nail, and it works
fine for a while. I blamed the age of the glue and/or the nighttime
temperature in the shop (about 45-50 dF). Any similarities there to
your situation?
> 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
> legs. I did not even get mad.
>
This qualifies you for canonization by the Church of the Random
Variable. Another 20 bucks gets you sainthood. :-)
mahalo,
jo4hn
"Knothead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon says:
> You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing
> but
> a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and
> should
> not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now
> and
> working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
> It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)
>
>
> You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
> ss
> statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
> me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
Very fortunately in good health.
The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
do with out SS.
"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You're not really 45k behind if you continue working though are you?
We are talking pay out from SS checks and not your job check. So yes you
would be behind in SS pay out if you wait till 66 to start drawing rather
than 62. Also you can draw SS and still work.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Educate me ... I am fast approaching that decision in about 7 months and
> my
> poor brain is too tired at the moment to figure it out.
This assumes you are not dependent on SS or do not need all of the SS check
to survive.
Lets assume you will draw $950 a month at age 62 and $1250 per month at age
66.
Basically you will be drawing $950 per month, 48 months earlier than if you
wait until age 66 to draw $1250. That equates out to $45,600 that SS will
pay you between the age of 62 and 66. You will continue to draw that amount
until you die.
If you wait until age 66 to start drawing you will get $300 more per month
but basically you will be $45,600 behind in payments compared to having
started receiving payments at age 62.
With these figures it will take 16 years and 4 months for the age 66 SS
payments to "about" equal the total amount paid out from the age 62 payment.
The age 66 SS payments total payout benefits start becoming better if you
live longer than 78 years and 3 months. Up until that age the $950 per
month for 16 years and 3 months is a greater amount, ($185,250.00) than
starting 4 years later at age 66 and getting 12 years and 3 months of
payments of $1250 per month., ($185,000).
That said, I know that your father has passed that age and you may very well
do that also. My father is 82 and in great health. But will SS be around
that long and or will you need as much income at age 79 as you will in those
years leading up to that age?
BTY I have a good friend/neighbor that I have known for about 24 years that
works for the SS office in SW Houston near Fondren and the SW Freeway. I
can ask her to keep an eye out for you if you would like.
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> yeah, I just finished that calculation myself..
>
> If I bet against myself and wait until 65, I'll get about $300 a month
> more than if I take it at 62 (4 more years)...
>
> In return for waiting another 3 years and getting more bucks, I'm
> loaning SS $3,600 interest free in order to get $300 more a month
> later... not what I see as a good investment OR a good bet..
> I'll take it at 62..
Actually the interest on $3600 is squat when you consider this.
I can get SS at 62 at $300 less than if I wait till 66. I have to wait
until 66 for the next increment.
Considering this I will have to wait until I am 78 years and 3 months old
until the age 66 larger amount actually matches the amount paid out by the
age 62 amount. It literally takes 16 years and 3 months for the age 66 pay
out to match the age 62 amount paid.
Additionally you are figuring your interest wrong. You should be figuring
interest on all of the first payment and each payment starting at age 62 .
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
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> http://home.pacbell.net/sneaks2/ijdlgnam.mp3
Amen.
Leon says:
You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)
You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss
statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>
>>
>
> You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.
You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com
>
>
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
>> ss
>> statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
>> me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
>
>Very fortunately in good health.
>The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
>that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
>IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
>will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
>amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
>do with out SS.
>
yeah, I just finished that calculation myself..
If I bet against myself and wait until 65, I'll get about $300 a month
more than if I take it at 62 (4 more years)...
In return for waiting another 3 years and getting more bucks, I'm
loaning SS $3,600 interest free in order to get $300 more a month
later... not what I see as a good investment OR a good bet..
I'll take it at 62..
mac
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:32 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
>> whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
>> I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
>> payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
>
>I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
>internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
>me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>breaking.
Well, so much for my breakfast!
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:47:08 -0500, the inscrutable Silvan
<[email protected]> spake:
>Upscale wrote:
>
>>> internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures
>>> of
>>> me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
>>> breaking.
>>
>> Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post
>> those pictures.
>
>Excellent. OK, Wreck, for $500 I promise not to allow myself to be seen /en
>deshabillé/ (that's nekkit for you ignernt types what ain't learnt no
>French) for 7 whole days. Pay up. If'n y'uns don't pony up the
>greenbacks, I'm a-showin' y'all the fat back.
Now we know the source of the word "shabby", Silvie.
('Taint shabby chic, neither.)
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
>table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
>relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
>Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
>ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
>The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
>been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
>summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
>the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
>harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
>it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
>off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
>rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
>between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
>is my favorite utility knife.
>20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
>legs. I did not even get mad.
It never "just falls on the floor". Curse you Murphy!
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:12:06 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of
>> Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in
>> the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not.
>
>Whenever I look at my butt in the mirror I just get depressed. I look like
>Hank Hill.
I believe that's an occupational hazard.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:20 -0800, damian penney wrote:
> I didn't know you could draw and work, but I'm only 32 so I haven't
> studied it too much :)
Ah, you're one of the lucky ones that not only gets to pay the excess
SS taxes now, but will also get to pay increased income taxes starting in
about 12 years to pay off those "investments" Uncle Sam is buying with
those excess contributions for the trust fund. We're enjoying spending
those excess contributions on ourselves now and appreciate that you
and your kids will pick up the tab later. And it will only get better
for us older guys if the SS tax is increased now so even more can be spent
on us and even more "investments" can be placed in the trust fund for you
and your kids to pay off :-)
- Doug
--
To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
>that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
>IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
>will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
>amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
>do with out SS.
It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
"Leon" wrote in message
> > You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
> > ss
> > statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
> > me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
>
> Very fortunately in good health.
I can attest to that. The man't got a grip like a vise ... and I'd broken
the little finger on my right hand about a month before I met Leon ... ouch!
;>)
> The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
> that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
> IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
> will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
> amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that
can
> do with out SS.
Educate me ... I am fast approaching that decision in about 7 months and my
poor brain is too tired at the moment to figure it out.
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Silvan wrote:
> Knothead wrote:
>
>
>>You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
>>ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
>>me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn
>
>
> Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
> new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
> will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
> $175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.
>
> Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.
>
That's not a bad price for the home, but then I suppose you're
forecasting rampant inflation with a concurrent collapse of the housing
market. As to the Bugger King lunch, that's probably the
super-cholesterolized version, which we're better off without. Yep, I
guess everybody needs a little gloom in their lives.
zorp,
jo4hn
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the
> internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of
> me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep
> breaking.
Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post those
pictures.
Weeellllll...... To be honest the answer is yes and no. I've done things
like that, but I would have blown a gasket and started throwing things.
Steve P.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:j%[email protected]...
> Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
> table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
> relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
> Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide
> mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times
> before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because
> I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the
> end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on
> the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I
> squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets
> kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the
> top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my
> project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left
> shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front
> fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife.
> 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
> legs. I did not even get mad.
>