I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. I
believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
strips. In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
straight not like a quarter round. They were about an inch and a half
wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. I want
to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. The
clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
"Robert Allison" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/23/2011 11:47 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>> "Robert Allison"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/22/2011 7:43 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>>>> "Sonny"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>>> S:
>>>>
>>>> "Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>>>> word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>>>> and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>>>> write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>>>> is a bit of a puzzle.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Edward Hennessey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> An astragal is a piece of molding or moulding that goes between
>>> double doors, usually where one door is fixed and one is operable.
>>> It becomes the jamb for the operable door, so to speak. Usually
>>> referred to as a "T astragal".
>>
>> RA:
>>
>> Gotcha and thanks for the education.
>>
>> With recall of "finish line", I hope you got a chance
>> to prowl the PDF of the inventions treatment previously
>> mentioned. It was ingeniousness chapter and verse when
>> I read it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward Hennessey
>
> Yes, I have been perusing it and a lot of other sites.
>
> Thanks,
Robert:
My pleasure. Your decision will be illuminating.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
>
>
> --
> Robert Allison
> New Braunfels, TX
On Apr 22, 2:29=A0pm, Gary Ober <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. =A0I
> believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
> strips. =A0In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
> straight not like a quarter round. =A0They were about an inch and a half
> wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. =A0I want
> to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. =A0The
> clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
Any time you have such a question Google then click on the Images link
at the top of the results page.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dprofiles+molding
R
Do you mean bead board? If so, you can make your own with a beading
bit.
Scroll down this page to see a bead board profile.
http://www.americanbeadboard.com/?gclid=3DCMqj7O_1sKgCFQxvbAod1y69HA
On Apr 22, 11:29=A0am, Gary Ober <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. =A0I
> believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
> strips. =A0In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
> straight not like a quarter round. =A0They were about an inch and a half
> wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. =A0I want
> to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. =A0The
> clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
Gary Ober wrote:
> I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. I
> believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
> strips. In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
> straight not like a quarter round. They were about an inch and a half
> wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. I want
> to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. The
> clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
Finger nail. You can make it with a finger nail bit or a half round/bull
nose one using only part of the arc.
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On 4/22/2011 7:43 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
> "Sonny"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>
>> Sonny
>
> S:
>
> "Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
> word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
> and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
> write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
> is a bit of a puzzle.
>
> http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
>
>
An astragal is a piece of molding or moulding that goes between double
doors, usually where one door is fixed and one is operable. It becomes
the jamb for the operable door, so to speak. Usually referred to as a
"T astragal".
HTH
--
Robert Allison
New Braunfels, TX
On 4/23/2011 11:47 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
> "Robert Allison"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/22/2011 7:43 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>>> "Sonny"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>
>>> S:
>>>
>>> "Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>>> word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>>> and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>>> write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>>> is a bit of a puzzle.
>>>
>>> http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Edward Hennessey
>>>
>>>
>>
>> An astragal is a piece of molding or moulding that goes between
>> double doors, usually where one door is fixed and one is operable.
>> It becomes the jamb for the operable door, so to speak. Usually
>> referred to as a "T astragal".
>
> RA:
>
> Gotcha and thanks for the education.
>
> With recall of "finish line", I hope you got a chance
> to prowl the PDF of the inventions treatment previously
> mentioned. It was ingeniousness chapter and verse when
> I read it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
Yes, I have been perusing it and a lot of other sites.
Thanks,
--
Robert Allison
New Braunfels, TX
Do you mean bead board? If so you can amke it yourself with a beading
bit.
Sctoll down this page to see a profile of bead board
http://www.americanbeadboard.com/?gclid=3DCMqj7O_1sKgCFQxvbAod1y69HA
On Apr 22, 11:29=A0am, Gary Ober <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. =A0I
> believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
> strips. =A0In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
> straight not like a quarter round. =A0They were about an inch and a half
> wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. =A0I want
> to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. =A0The
> clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:40:47 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:43:34 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>>>S:
>>>>
>>>>"Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>>>>word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>>>>and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>>>>write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>>>>is a bit of a puzzle.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>>>
>>> Funny. I've always (wrongly, I see) pronounced that "astralagus".
>>> The moulding is likely named for the bi-sulcate seedpod end
>>> profile.
>>> (bottom picture on the right in the black background)
>>
>>LJ:
>>
>>How someone decided to make that connection
>>in nominating the molding still puzzles when other
>>inventions might have sparked a more familiar
>>connection.
>
LJ:
> No doubt it was some silly gardener who made it, perhaps in his
> weekly
> article in the local rag.
Smoking that old-time locoweed maybe.
>
>
>>As to the pronunciation, the erroneous form you
>>cite is one I've seen spelled out and pronounced
>>before. Google shows the error as far more infrequent
>>than my experience would have ever guessed.
>
> Right, the list of misspellers even includes some of the major
> vitamin
> makers.
Which mutual observation at least gives me great
faith in the assurance of the efficacy of their product.
"I don't want the aspirin. Give me the asprin. That's
the rare stuff. It's so hard to find."
>
>
>>The form of the bone, compact and durable, makes
>>it a frequent intact survivor in turbid fossil deposits where
>>more slender and longer elements are only represented
>>by broken parts or shards. Of some interest, the word
>>goes to the same root meaning as hazard:"dice" with
>>the theory being that the bone found ancient use in gaming.
>>
>>Roll them bones.
>
> Weren't they first made from bone, Ed? (Oh, from the wiki)
> "Dice were probably originally made from the ankle bones
> (specifically
> the talus or "astragalus") of hoofed animals (such as oxen),
> colloquially known as "knucklebones", which are approximately
> tetrahedral (hence the slang term "bones" used for dice)."
This is an IIRC distillation from the old fire of dusty
neurons. I think the game framing their use
was one more of skill mixed with chance than throwing more
nearly-balanced dice. Generally, an astragalus has two long,
broader sides. There may be plenty of exceptions in what
our predecessors used. Thrown wild style, the bone in
my conception should be more prone to finish up/down on
one of these long faces. Marks of flowers have been found,
however, on the adjacent sides. Flowers=blooming=pretty=
good=growing season, you win! Perhaps.
So, one theory would
be the gamers more difficultly, more skillfully, tried to roll
them so that less-stable marked side came up. Sure, there's
plenty of indeterminacy in the mix--but if there was an
added rule that the bone/die had to pass a distant line
or hit a target to count and show the flowered
awkward side--there's the art...if acclamation recognizes
one player as an artist you don't want to play against.
Remember those Summer evenings lagging pennies at
a curb pitching for a leaner that had the head facing you?
Ever run across a cat who could hustle that?
Maybe it could have been akin. Who knows?
If trials have been done with the artifacts, someone
wrote a paper. This isn't my focus.I don't know.
You read and I bet we'll gather at the camp fire with
itching ears.
From my random file, here's a guy who ought to have an
opinion as he has a real nifty, compact collection. People
marrying enthusiasm with intelligence on the web are
often quite forthcoming in response to questions:
http://www.dicecollector.com/JM/
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
>
> --
> Make up your mind to act decidedly and take the consequences.
> No good is ever done in this world by hesitation.
> -- Thomas H. Huxley
"Robert Allison" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/22/2011 7:43 PM, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>> "Sonny"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>
>> S:
>>
>> "Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>> word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>> and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>> write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>> is a bit of a puzzle.
>>
>> http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward Hennessey
>>
>>
>
> An astragal is a piece of molding or moulding that goes between
> double doors, usually where one door is fixed and one is operable.
> It becomes the jamb for the operable door, so to speak. Usually
> referred to as a "T astragal".
RA:
Gotcha and thanks for the education.
With recall of "finish line", I hope you got a chance
to prowl the PDF of the inventions treatment previously
mentioned. It was ingeniousness chapter and verse when
I read it.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Robert Allison
> New Braunfels, TX
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:43:34 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>
>> Sonny
>
>S:
>
>"Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>is a bit of a puzzle.
>
>http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
Funny. I've always (wrongly, I see) pronounced that "astralagus".
The moulding is likely named for the bi-sulcate seedpod end profile.
(bottom picture on the right in the black background)
--
Accept the pain, cherish the joys, resolve the regrets;
then can come the best of benedictions -
'If I had my life to live over, I'd do it all the same.'
-- Joan McIntosh
On Apr 24, 11:47=A0pm, "Edward Hennessey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> You read and =A0I bet we'll gather at the camp fire with
> itching ears.
Probably Poison Ivy. ;)
> From my random file, here's a guy who ought to have an
> opinion as he has a real nifty, compact collection. People
> marrying enthusiasm with intelligence on the web are
> often quite forthcoming in response to questions:
>
> http://www.dicecollector.com/JM/
It must be nice to collect things that are so small. Sigh.
R
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>
> Sonny
S:
"Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
is a bit of a puzzle.
http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:43:34 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>
>>S:
>>
>>"Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>>word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>>and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>>write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>>is a bit of a puzzle.
>>
>>http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>
> Funny. I've always (wrongly, I see) pronounced that "astralagus".
> The moulding is likely named for the bi-sulcate seedpod end profile.
> (bottom picture on the right in the black background)
LJ:
How someone decided to make that connection
in nominating the molding still puzzles when other
inventions might have sparked a more familiar
connection.
As to the pronunciation, the erroneous form you
cite is one I've seen spelled out and pronounced
before. Google shows the error as far more infrequent
than my experience would have ever guessed.
The form of the bone, compact and durable, makes
it a frequent intact survivor in turbid fossil deposits where
more slender and longer elements are only represented
by broken parts or shards. Of some interest, the word
goes to the same root meaning as hazard:"dice" with
the theory being that the bone found ancient use in gaming.
Roll them bones.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
>
> --
> Accept the pain, cherish the joys, resolve the regrets;
> then can come the best of benedictions -
> 'If I had my life to live over, I'd do it all the same.'
> -- Joan McIntosh
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Ober
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am trying to figure out the name of a type of molding profile. I
>believe it was used years ago to hide joints in paneling before tee
>strips. In profile it looks like 1/4th a dowel if it were sliced
>straight not like a quarter round. They were about an inch and a half
>wide and only maybe 3/16" thick and did not have a flat top. I want
>to put it over a edge of a mitered corner for a rounded surface. The
>clerk at the HD store wanted to sell me a batten which is flat on top.
Maybe you can find what you seek here:
http://www.hardwoodweb.com/moulding/profiles.cfm
I was thinking "half round" from your description, but I think you
want a slice off a 4" dowel for that.
--
Accept the pain, cherish the joys, resolve the regrets;
then can come the best of benedictions -
'If I had my life to live over, I'd do it all the same.'
-- Joan McIntosh
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:40:47 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:43:34 -0700, "Edward Hennessey"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:39a8b087-1dc1-45aa-86ec-cc1ff4edebb5@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Like a gently domed (rather than a profiled) astragal molding?
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>
>>>S:
>>>
>>>"Astragal", as a molding profile, was new on me. The
>>>word "Astragalus" is in the head regarding ankles
>>>and the plant genus Astragalus which has an informative
>>>write-up at the given URL. How a molding got the name
>>>is a bit of a puzzle.
>>>
>>>http://www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/White%20Enlarged%20Photo%20Pages/astragalus%20bisulcatus%20and%20haydenianus.htm
>>
>> Funny. I've always (wrongly, I see) pronounced that "astralagus".
>> The moulding is likely named for the bi-sulcate seedpod end profile.
>> (bottom picture on the right in the black background)
>
>LJ:
>
>How someone decided to make that connection
>in nominating the molding still puzzles when other
>inventions might have sparked a more familiar
>connection.
No doubt it was some silly gardener who made it, perhaps in his weekly
article in the local rag.
>As to the pronunciation, the erroneous form you
>cite is one I've seen spelled out and pronounced
>before. Google shows the error as far more infrequent
>than my experience would have ever guessed.
Right, the list of misspellers even includes some of the major vitamin
makers.
>The form of the bone, compact and durable, makes
>it a frequent intact survivor in turbid fossil deposits where
>more slender and longer elements are only represented
>by broken parts or shards. Of some interest, the word
>goes to the same root meaning as hazard:"dice" with
>the theory being that the bone found ancient use in gaming.
>
>Roll them bones.
Weren't they first made from bone, Ed? (Oh, from the wiki)
"Dice were probably originally made from the ankle bones (specifically
the talus or "astragalus") of hoofed animals (such as oxen),
colloquially known as "knucklebones", which are approximately
tetrahedral (hence the slang term "bones" used for dice)."
--
Make up your mind to act decidedly and take the consequences.
No good is ever done in this world by hesitation.
-- Thomas H. Huxley
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Apr 24, 11:47 pm, "Edward Hennessey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> You read and I bet we'll gather at the camp fire with
> itching ears.
RDJ:
Probably Poison Ivy. ;)
Here's bit of bushcraft you'll thankfully praise if
you have the right occasion: put a piece of cotton in
your ear when trekking tick country.
> From my random file, here's a guy who ought to have an
> opinion as he has a real nifty, compact collection. People
> marrying enthusiasm with intelligence on the web are
> often quite forthcoming in response to questions:
>
> http://www.dicecollector.com/JM/
It must be nice to collect things that are so small. Sigh.
A friend had one of the top two worldwide collections of
Pacific Ocean fish otoliths (ear bones). Recollection imagines
it occupied 1.5 file cabinets. Then there's psammophily, or sand
collecting to entertain and excuse travelilng:
http://www.google.com/#q=%22sand+collectors%22&hl=en&prmd=ivns&ei=0FctTfyBBcH88AamhvW5CQ&start=0&sa=N&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b
But if you collect steam engines....
Regards,
Edward Hennessey