I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
goes on between the blade and the nut.
Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
Thomas
I scanned the archives and a few years ago the same subject came up,
likely numerous times. Enough people recommended one that I spent the
extra $24.00. Money wasted? Dunno yet.
Lawrence A. Ramsey wrote:
> I don't recall needing one with a 1/8" kerf blade (or 1/8" thickness
> blade). ask Forrest. Also don't recall ever seeing anyone with a
> Forrest blade suggesting that you need one. That is, I understand, the
> purpose of a 1/8" thick blade. I DO recomend one with a thin kerf
> blade.
>
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:09:39 -0400, Thomas Mitchell
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
>>dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
>>I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
>>goes on between the blade and the nut.
>>
>>Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
>>about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
>>
>>Thomas
>
>
My review was very quick. Two threads from 1998. Enough people said it
helped them that I went ahead and bought one. Might not have been 50%
but the enough for me to realize it could help and certainly wouldn't
hurt, unless I needed an extremely deep cut, which is almost never.
Thomas
JackD wrote:
> Interesting. My review of the archives on the same topic a couple of weeks
> ago led me to the opposite conclusion so I passed on it.
> Forrest does recommend it even for the 1/8" blade, but then again, they sell
> them.
> At least you know this much, it couldn't hurt.
>
> -Jack
>
"Thomas Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
> dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
> I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
> goes on between the blade and the nut.
Nope - the stiffner is a "huge washer" about 3,4 or 5" in diameter.
>
> Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
> about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
The prevailing winds seem to dictate "Yes on Thin Kerf blades; No on 1/8"
standard kerf". The only con I've encountered is that the large diameter
causes it to peek up above the table when the blade is raised near full
height. It will, in those situations, often interfere with the cut.
The last question is up to you. I don't think I'd buy one if I was buying a
1/8" kerf WWII.
Actually, I don't believe that it did or was not reported, anyway. The
water was only on it a few milliseconds. I think the problem was the
hoses or maybe the pump. Still, it sounds like a most worthwhile tool
if someone could make it work. The nice thing was, nails, stones,
rocks, tires, barbed wire and so on was not a problem. There are no
blades to sharpen. So, they can't be dulled by foreign objects.
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:57:27 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I would have to guess that if you were using water to cut wood, and
>obviously as you stated it would be under very high pressure, the wood would
>become water logged and unusable for woodworking.
>
>
Steve, I know you are kidding but do you remember back say 20 years
ago when there was a lot being said about using water to cut wood
with? They were trying it out in Oregon using ceramic tipped nozzles
and extremely high water pressure. Claimed it would cut down on fire
probl ems, was safer, cheaper (no blades to sharpen), and so forth.
Wonder what ever happened to that idea and method? Sounds like it
would be even more feasible today.
Also, I appreciate your views of the Makita grinding thing. I,
personally, did not like it at all. I was sharpening chisels and plane
irons and jointer/planer blades for over 20 full-time carpenters and
cabinet makers so I was looking for an easier way to do it. I had a
LOT of hope for that thing and it did not work out. I ended up using
waterstones, Lee Valley jigs and a little gizmo that clamped onto the
sides of the chisels. Still looking for a better way. I did buy the
Delta $39 grinding station or whatever they call it from Lowe's. It
looks as though it may have some potential since it is water cooled
and slow.
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:59:29 GMT, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:36:30 -0500, Lawrence A. Ramsey
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Man, I WANT a 0" kerf blade, Wow, no sawdust, kickback, sound. Like
>>WOW!!!!
>
>new laser sawblade. only takes 480 100 amp power (G)
Interesting. My review of the archives on the same topic a couple of weeks
ago led me to the opposite conclusion so I passed on it.
Forrest does recommend it even for the 1/8" blade, but then again, they sell
them.
At least you know this much, it couldn't hurt.
-Jack
"Thomas Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I scanned the archives and a few years ago the same subject came up,
> likely numerous times. Enough people recommended one that I spent the
> extra $24.00. Money wasted? Dunno yet.
>
> Lawrence A. Ramsey wrote:
> > I don't recall needing one with a 1/8" kerf blade (or 1/8" thickness
> > blade). ask Forrest. Also don't recall ever seeing anyone with a
> > Forrest blade suggesting that you need one. That is, I understand, the
> > purpose of a 1/8" thick blade. I DO recomend one with a thin kerf
> > blade.
> >
> > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:09:39 -0400, Thomas Mitchell
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
> >>dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
> >>I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
> >>goes on between the blade and the nut.
> >>
> >>Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
> >>about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >
> >
>
LOL! Send me $129.95 and I'll ship you one. Light weight - practically
invisible.
Jums
"Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Man, I WANT a 0" kerf blade, Wow, no sawdust, kickback, sound. Like
> WOW!!!!
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 02:59:52 GMT, Jim K <jkajpust@###ameritech.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I just a 0" kerf blade. It cuts so fine, you can't even tell. The saw
> >doesn't slow down a bit even for the hardest wood.
> >
> >On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 01:36:10 GMT, "Leon"
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>With a 1/8" kerf blade it would be a waste of money. I comes in handy
with
> >>thin kerf blades but then it limits the depth of cut you can make...
> >>Another good reason to only get 1/8" kerf blades.
> >>
> >>
>
A dampener / stiffener is about 3-4" round and will go on both side of the
blade. This helps to eliminate vibration due to roration. Used 'em on my
WWII thin kerf - great add-on - improves accuracy.
Jim
"Thomas Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
> dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
> I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
> goes on between the blade and the nut.
>
> Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
> about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
>
> Thomas
>
I don't recall needing one with a 1/8" kerf blade (or 1/8" thickness
blade). ask Forrest. Also don't recall ever seeing anyone with a
Forrest blade suggesting that you need one. That is, I understand, the
purpose of a 1/8" thick blade. I DO recomend one with a thin kerf
blade.
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:09:39 -0400, Thomas Mitchell
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm getting ready to order the WWII from forrest. They recommend a
>dampener-stiffener on the oustide of the blade. Not sure if that's what
>I have or not, I have the washer type thing that came with the saw that
>goes on between the blade and the nut.
>
>Does a dampener-stiffener really add that much to the cut? Any cons
>about using one? Is the purchase of one worth the money?
>
>Thomas
O
I push my saw on waht I cut. tropicals up to 3" thick and cutting on only one
side of the blade cutting three different woods with two different grain
directions and other wacky things. the wwII works great with no flex. since I
started using 1/8" blades I really have not seen any blade flex on the tablesaw.
i used to see it in the thinner blades though.
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