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"Rob V"

12/05/2005 12:38 AM

Wood Ashtrays???

Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
Id like to make something else in the same genre.

Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html

I figure id make one to complement the humidor.

My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.

Anyhelp would be great.

Thanks

Rob



This topic has 17 replies

Bi

"Bob in Oregon" <[email protected]>

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 10:58 AM

Make it from paper mache and coat with 3 to 5 coats of linseed oil. Rub
down with Naptha.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 2:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Rob V <[email protected]> wrote:
>Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
>an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
>Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
>Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
>of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
>Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
>http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
>I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
>Anyhelp would be great.

The "traditional" approach is a metal/glass/ceramic 'insert' to catch
the ashes.

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 11:32 AM



"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
> an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years
back.
> Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
> Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
> of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
> Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
> http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
> I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
> My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
> Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
> Anyhelp would be great.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
>
>
>


Interesting project and one I might like to try. I would -

Select a dense, dark, tropical wood. I think a Jatoba would look nice.

Make the ashtray, however you want.

Use a torch to burn the bowl area. It's going to turn black anyway, so just
go with it. Char it until the surface just is black, then sand it back to
an even look.

Finish the outside with any finish you like. Don't put anything in the
bowl. The carbon you created will act as an insulator, and camouflage.

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com

lL

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 10:18 AM

WOOD ! What type will work , any of the burl from hard wood will do .
Where to find it , keep an eye out for someone cutting trees an
removeing the stumps or you might find an old stump some where.
After you finish it what I=92d do is oil it good with mineral oil , let
it sit , then rub it good an oil again , will it burn you ask , think
about us pipe smokers , I=92ve never had a pipe burnup yet , I made 2
pipes a couple yrs ago from Manzanita root , extremely hard burl almost
like ceramic , I rubbed them an oiled them 4 times , now they have a
finish like glass , cherry colored .

Lee

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 6:18 PM

On 12 May 2005 10:58:47 -0700, Bob in Oregon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Make it from paper mache and coat with 3 to 5 coats of linseed oil. Rub
> down with Naptha.

Don't forget to top-coat with nitrocellulose lacquer.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 7:08 AM


"Art and Diane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JGyge.71828$r53.35004@attbi_s21...
> You should check the woodturning news group. There was a discussion a
> while back about a finish that could be used on wooden candlesticks. It
> would prevent them from catching on fire if the candle burned down to
> the bottom.
>
> Rob V wrote:
>
> >Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday.
He's
> >an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years
back.
> >Id like to make something else in the same genre.
> >
> >Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays
made
> >of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
> >Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
> >http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html

Heat transferred through a finish would discolor the wood at a minimum, so
I'd locate a good glass insert and make it fit. Made one when I used to
smoke a pipe.

True story. To the drug store to ask if I could get a couple of those cork
nubs to stick into the center of the ashtrays. Young, well-endowed thing
behind the tobacco counter looks confused, so I say "those things down on
the second to bottom shelf. You use 'em to knock the ashes out of your
pipe."

"Oh, you want a pair of knockers, then."

Susan was too close for me to give the definitive answer to that question.

Aa

Art and Diane

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 1:53 AM

You should check the woodturning news group. There was a discussion a
while back about a finish that could be used on wooden candlesticks. It
would prevent them from catching on fire if the candle burned down to
the bottom.

Art



Rob V wrote:

>Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
>an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
>Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
>Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
>of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
>Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
>http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
>I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
>Anyhelp would be great.
>
>Thanks
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
>

RV

"Rob V"

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 8:08 PM

:)

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 12 May 2005 10:58:47 -0700, Bob in Oregon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Make it from paper mache and coat with 3 to 5 coats of linseed oil. Rub
>> down with Naptha.
>
> Don't forget to top-coat with nitrocellulose lacquer.
>
>

HP

Hax Planx

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 8:59 AM

Rob V says...

> Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
> an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
> Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
> Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
> of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
> Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
> http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
> I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
> My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
> Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
> Anyhelp would be great.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob

I agree with the others. I can't think of any finish that will stand up
to the red hot ember on the end of a cigar. Maybe build a decorative
wooden tray to hold a 5¢ glass ash tray?

DD

David

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

11/05/2005 5:41 PM

Epoxy

Rob V wrote:

> Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
> an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
> Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
> Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
> of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
> Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
> http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
> I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
> My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
> Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
> Anyhelp would be great.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
>
>
>

DD

David

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

11/05/2005 9:00 PM

As that all you are going to interject with? How about a better answer
for the OP?

Dave

Old Nick wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2005 17:41:33 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I disagree completely.
>
>
>>Epoxy
>
>
>>>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>>>Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 10:28 AM

On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:33:08 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:38:48 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>>
>>Choose the right timber and it's not a problem.
>
>I'm surprised nobody has addressed this point already. The right wood to make
>it from is obviously ... ash.

*groan*


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

md

mac davis

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 10:27 AM

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:38:48 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Im looking to make something for a friend of mine for his 50th bday. He's
>an big cigar aficionado. He loved the humidor I made him a few years back.
>Id like to make something else in the same genre.
>
>Doing a search on some cigar sites I ran across one that had ashtrays made
>of wood. Some nice burls w/ a turned bowl in the middle.
>Heres a few pics of what Im looking to do :
>http://www.kolinskyartbrushes.com/woodenboxes/cw_ash.html
>
>I figure id make one to complement the humidor.
>
>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.
>
>Anyhelp would be great.
>
>Thanks
>
>Rob
>
as a smoker, I'll tell you how I make them...

Find a good looking glass ash tray at the 99 cent store, and turn or build a
small table/stand for it..
I used 5" dia. ash trays and turned a recess in squares of oak 2x8" (parts from
an old desk) to fit the ash tray, then routed a rounded slot that fits most
disposable lighters and 3 holes to be used as "snubbers"..

They worked so well on the patio and in the shop, that I ended up making several
more for friends that liked them..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 10:58 AM

On Wed, 11 May 2005 17:41:33 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:

I disagree completely.

>Epoxy

>> My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>> Wood + Burning cigar end = bad mojo.

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

13/05/2005 2:28 AM

George wrote:

> True story. To the drug store to ask if I could get a couple of
> those cork nubs to stick into the center of the ashtrays. Young,
> well-endowed thing behind the tobacco counter looks confused, so I
> say "those things down on the second to bottom shelf. You use 'em to
> knock the ashes out of your pipe."
>
> "Oh, you want a pair of knockers, then."
>
> Susan was too close for me to give the definitive answer to that
> question.

LOL!!!

-- Mark

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 1:33 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:38:48 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?
>
>Choose the right timber and it's not a problem.

I'm surprised nobody has addressed this point already. The right wood to make
it from is obviously ... ash.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Rob V" on 12/05/2005 12:38 AM

12/05/2005 2:11 PM

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:38:48 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:

>My question is what finish do I use on it so it wont burn?

Choose the right timber and it's not a problem. The darker African fake
mahoganies are hard to char and dark enough that you won't notice anyway
-- "That's not damage, that's patina"

But personally I'd use an inset bowl, beaten out of copper sheet. A
hammered and patinated finish looks good with darker timber (walnut,
fumed oak, dark tropicals) and doesn't look to untidy as an ashtray.
Simple bowls made by sinking are also within the grasp of any woodworker
- Get a copy of Tim McCreight, a kitchen stove for annealing, a sandbag
and an egg-shaped mallet.


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