On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
> >
> > http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
> >
>
> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
Appreciate the feedback Leon. At the very least I hope you were entertained. :)
Did mine a few weeks ago, and I was without the blade for two weeks.
John S.
On 06/27/2012 02:10 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Anyone send in a blade to Forrest recently?
>
> What was the turnaround time? (I know it changes depending on workload
> like everyone else) just looking for approx time.
>
> My blade needs it, cleaning it didn't help..
>
> Thanks
On 6/27/2012 6:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 4:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 6/27/2012 2:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>>>
>>> Appreciate the feedback Leon. At the very least I hope you were
>>> entertained. :)
>>
>> The music was "fabulous". Keep up the good work Brian!
>
> LOL ...
>
> Hey Brian, don't look now but your card scraper "holder" is already
> ~patented pending~ by FIG (Festool Investment Group), of which Leon is
> the founder.
>
> Instead of holding your card "scrapers", FIG uses it for holding a full
> "hand" of Canasta cards:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5758862312327223394
>
>
> All kidding aside, good method on the sharpening of card scrapers as it
> addresses the basics of what makes it work ... I basically use my
> woodworking vise and a bastard file, followed up with a burnishing tool
> to do something similar.
>
Oh! I am the FoFIG. I was not aware of that. ;~)
Still have the picture of the card holder with the domino kickstand? LOL
On 6/27/2012 2:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>
>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>
>>
>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>
> Appreciate the feedback Leon. At the very least I hope you were entertained. :)
The music was "fabulous". Keep up the good work Brian!
On 6/27/2012 2:10 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Anyone send in a blade to Forrest recently?
>
> What was the turnaround time? (I know it changes depending on workload
> like everyone else) just looking for approx time.
>
> My blade needs it, cleaning it didn't help..
>
> Thanks
Last time for me, about 2 years ago it tool about 2~2.5 weeks. I keep a
spare on hand and put it on when one goes out.
On 6/27/2012 2:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Not really tedious, but not really different than putting it in a vise
> and filing, then stoning.
> There is no need for the block... (it's just a crutch)
> Everything else was pretty standard...
>
>
>
> On 6/27/2012 2:11 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>
>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>
>>
>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>
I use the Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in
the vice, give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
results.
On 6/27/2012 4:21 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 2:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>>
>> Appreciate the feedback Leon. At the very least I hope you were
>> entertained. :)
>
> The music was "fabulous". Keep up the good work Brian!
LOL ...
Hey Brian, don't look now but your card scraper "holder" is already
~patented pending~ by FIG (Festool Investment Group), of which Leon is
the founder.
Instead of holding your card "scrapers", FIG uses it for holding a full
"hand" of Canasta cards:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5758862312327223394
All kidding aside, good method on the sharpening of card scrapers as it
addresses the basics of what makes it work ... I basically use my
woodworking vise and a bastard file, followed up with a burnishing tool
to do something similar.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
Thanks.
Was hoping that the 3-5 day turnaround they say on the website was
accurate.
I guess I have to use some old blades while it's out.
On 6/28/2012 9:54 AM, John Shear wrote:
> Did mine a few weeks ago, and I was without the blade for two weeks.
>
> John S.
>
> On 06/27/2012 02:10 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Anyone send in a blade to Forrest recently?
>>
>> What was the turnaround time? (I know it changes depending on workload
>> like everyone else) just looking for approx time.
>>
>> My blade needs it, cleaning it didn't help..
>>
>> Thanks
I don't know what the Veritas set is.
You don't have to use a file or burnisher?
On 6/27/2012 5:19 PM, Leon wrote:
> he Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in the vice,
> give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
> perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
> and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
> better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
> results.
Larry, do you make dust or whisper thin shavings?
When you make dust, you are no better than using sandpaper.
When you make shavings you are cutting the wood.
I use it mostly for hard to handle wild figure, edging, it's great for
leveling the last little bit of home made edging. And for removing glue
on panels that I have put together.
I agree sometimes not having a hook is better, but with a hook it can be
a different world. Try it skewed too.
On 6/28/2012 1:33 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:19:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/27/2012 2:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Not really tedious, but not really different than putting it in a vise
>>> and filing, then stoning.
>>> There is no need for the block... (it's just a crutch)
>>> Everything else was pretty standard...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/27/2012 2:11 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>>>
>>
>> I use the Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in
>> the vice, give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
>> perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
>> and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
>> better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
>> results.
>
> I have a nice card scraper file holder and I don't burnish, I hone on
> a 600 grit diamond plate. It's not quite as aggressive without a burr,
> but that works very well for me.
>
> --
> Always bear in mind that your own resolution to
> succeed is more important than any one thing.
> -- Abraham Lincoln
>
On Jun 27, 8:41=A0pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
> Leon, I have to see your shop :-)
> You definetly have all the cool stuff.
>
> I'll do it the old way, it only takes 1-2 minutes max.
>
> BTW the reason that you stone sometimes over filing, or finish with a
> stone, is you get a smooter cut.
>
> When I have to do my #80, I stone it.
Depends what I'm using the scraper for. For cutting
back old varnish, smooth single cut file and off to work.
For finish prep, joint with a 1200 DMT stone held on its
edge and the scraper elevated on a scrap of wood.
Dead square edges are good for bragging rights,
but not really necessary. An 88 or 92 degree
arris shaves wood as easily as a dead-on 90.000.
Stanley #80-type scraper blades are sharpened
to a fairly acute bevel, but work just fine. Sharpening
to a square bevel just gives you two extra cutting
edges per sharpening.
On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:34:45 PM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 4:21 PM, Leon wrote:
> > On 6/27/2012 2:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> >>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
> >>
> >> Appreciate the feedback Leon. At the very least I hope you were
> >> entertained. :)
> >
> > The music was "fabulous". Keep up the good work Brian!
>
> LOL ...
>
> Hey Brian, don't look now but your card scraper "holder" is already
> ~patented pending~ by FIG (Festool Investment Group), of which Leon is
> the founder.
>
> Instead of holding your card "scrapers", FIG uses it for holding a full
> "hand" of Canasta cards:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff#5758862312327223394
>
> All kidding aside, good method on the sharpening of card scrapers as it
> addresses the basics of what makes it work ... I basically use my
> woodworking vise and a bastard file, followed up with a burnishing tool
> to do something similar.
>
> --
> www.eWoodShop.com
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
> http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
Ha! Now I know what to do with my holders when the scrapers are dull, CANASTA!! :)
Not really tedious, but not really different than putting it in a vise
and filing, then stoning.
There is no need for the block... (it's just a crutch)
Everything else was pretty standard...
On 6/27/2012 2:11 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>
>
> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:19:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 6/27/2012 2:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Not really tedious, but not really different than putting it in a vise
>> and filing, then stoning.
>> There is no need for the block... (it's just a crutch)
>> Everything else was pretty standard...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/27/2012 2:11 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>>
>
>I use the Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in
>the vice, give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
>perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
>and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
>better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
>results.
I have a nice card scraper file holder and I don't burnish, I hone on
a 600 grit diamond plate. It's not quite as aggressive without a burr,
but that works very well for me.
--
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to
succeed is more important than any one thing.
-- Abraham Lincoln
Leon, I have to see your shop :-)
You definetly have all the cool stuff.
I'll do it the old way, it only takes 1-2 minutes max.
BTW the reason that you stone sometimes over filing, or finish with a
stone, is you get a smooter cut.
When I have to do my #80, I stone it.
On 6/27/2012 7:33 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/27/2012 6:13 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> I don't know what the Veritas set is.
>> You don't have to use a file or burnisher?
>
> You still have to file and burnish but you don't need a vise or clamp,
> it is all hand held.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32631&cat=1,43072,43089
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32633&cat=1,310,41070
>
> Oddly they show using a vise but I never use one.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 6/27/2012 5:19 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> he Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in the vice,
>>> give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
>>> perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
>>> and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
>>> better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
>>> results.
>>
>
On 6/28/2012 11:20 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Larry, do you make dust or whisper thin shavings?
> When you make dust, you are no better than using sandpaper.
> When you make shavings you are cutting the wood.
>
> I use it mostly for hard to handle wild figure, edging, it's great for leveling
> the last little bit of home made edging. And for removing glue on panels that
> I have put together.
>
> I agree sometimes not having a hook is better, but with a hook it can be a
> different world. Try it skewed too.
>
> On 6/28/2012 1:33 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:19:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/27/2012 2:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>> Not really tedious, but not really different than putting it in a vise
>>>> and filing, then stoning.
>>>> There is no need for the block... (it's just a crutch)
>>>> Everything else was pretty standard...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/27/2012 2:11 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I use the Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in
>>> the vice, give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
>>> perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
>>> and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
>>> better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
>>> results.
>>
>> I have a nice card scraper file holder and I don't burnish, I hone on
>> a 600 grit diamond plate. It's not quite as aggressive without a burr,
>> but that works very well for me.
I do the same thing Larry does, usually running the scraper across the diamond
plate at a slight skew, which perhaps gives an effect similar to the hook you
get from a burnisher. Works like a champ, resulting in a scraper that peels
off shavings just as beautifully as any other (more time consuming) method I've
used. That whole "burnishing to get the perfect hook" think is overrated if
you ask me.
--
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than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
To reply, eat the taco.
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On 6/28/12 3:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>> I have a nice card scraper file holder and I don't burnish, I hone on
>>> a 600 grit diamond plate. It's not quite as aggressive without a burr,
>>> but that works very well for me.
>
> I do the same thing Larry does, usually running the scraper across the
> diamond plate at a slight skew, which perhaps gives an effect similar to
> the hook you get from a burnisher. Works like a champ, resulting in a
> scraper that peels off shavings just as beautifully as any other (more
> time consuming) method I've used. That whole "burnishing to get the
> perfect hook" think is overrated if you ask me.
>
+1
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On 6/27/2012 6:13 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> I don't know what the Veritas set is.
> You don't have to use a file or burnisher?
You still have to file and burnish but you don't need a vise or clamp,
it is all hand held.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32631&cat=1,43072,43089
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32633&cat=1,310,41070
Oddly they show using a vise but I never use one.
>
> On 6/27/2012 5:19 PM, Leon wrote:
>> he Veritas set up now but used to simply clamp the scraper in the vice,
>> give it a couple of strokes with the file, run the burnisher
>> perpendicular to the scraper edge to round over the edge on both sides
>> and then slightly tilt the burnisher for one side then the next to
>> better form the edge on both sides. About half the work for twice the
>> results.
>
Maybe 2 - 5 days shipping each way, then 2 - 5 days to sharpen.
On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Was hoping that the 3-5 day turnaround they say on the website was
> accurate.
>
> I guess I have to use some old blades while it's out.
>
>
>
> On 6/28/2012 9:54 AM, John Shear wrote:
>> Did mine a few weeks ago, and I was without the blade for two weeks.
>>
>> John S.
>>
>> On 06/27/2012 02:10 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Anyone send in a blade to Forrest recently?
>>>
>>> What was the turnaround time? (I know it changes depending on workload
>>> like everyone else) just looking for approx time.
>>>
>>> My blade needs it, cleaning it didn't help..
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
On 6/27/2012 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Join in on some scraper sharpening discussion and see how I do it:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=96
>
I guess that is "another" way to do it... seems tedious.